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So we may not forget that this isn't the 19th century and

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So we may not forget that this isn't the 19th century and imperialism and colonialism are not very nice or ok in the 21st century.
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>>67940134
Before a shitstorm happens,I want You to know I am with You Ukraine
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Yeh but Russia has nukes so they can do w/e they want.
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>>67940134
But all the cool kids are doing it! :(
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>>67940134
slavs should not exist
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It's OK.
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>Kaliningrad and Crimea not red
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>>67940265
Are you an Greek perhaps?
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>>67940393
Yes I am a Greek
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Imperialism didn't go anywhere. It's still practiced today.
Russians just suck at hiding it...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btLHVYoYnXI

at that time in moscow
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gr8 b8 m8
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>>67940671
>butthurt
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I support the Ukrainian nation against Russian imperialist expansionism
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>>67940685
inb4 nervous Balts
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>>67941036
lyl
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>>67940134
If you dig yourself into hole like Ukraine did you can't pretend on property
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>>67941331
>pretend
"claim"

Not respecting property rights is an act of aggression.
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Why do Russians rewrite history books to hide the fact that Kievan Rus was first organized state in the region?

Why did Russians suppress our language for centuries?

Why did Russians deny us any separate identity as people?

Why did Russians suppress the Uniate Church and impose the ROC on us?

Why did Russians starve millions of Ukrainians in 1931-33?

Why do Russians in 2014 illegally seize our land?
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>>67942054
It's complicated...
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>>67942054

Lol you are like Russia's Ireland
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>>67942054
Because it was Nvogorod Rus
Because we created your language dummy ukrainian is just ugly village russian dialect+tatar word
Because you're not people
Because fuck you
Because everyone starved dumb khokhol
Because you're morons
because go to huy that's why
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I hope Russia kills every single rodent we call Ukrainians
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>>67942054
>Why do Russians in 2014 illegally seize our land?
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>>67942054
because you're too dumb to take Poland's side
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>>67942054
>Why do Russians in 2014 illegally seize our land?
>our
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>>67942054
Because we can
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>>67942484
I thought you hated us the most
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>>67942543
Nah nigga we dont hate Russians living in Russia, we hate Russians living in Estonia bc they are quite literally nigger lvl
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>>67942054
>our land
>80% russian
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>>67942571
I see. I think the same of some Caucasian immigrants
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>>67942484

STOP. HAMMER TIME.
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If i had to pick a side, i would def join the Ukrainian Army to kill Russian nationalists, but i still think all Ukrainians are subhuman
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>>67942433
>Because we created your language dummy ukrainian is just ugly village russian dialect+tatar word
I think there's some Polish words in there too or something.
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>>67942682
Toppest of kekkels
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>>67942703
UK nazi better than RU nazi?
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>>67942721
It's mostly Russian
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>>67942721

ukrainian is actually closer to the east slavic root language than russian is. russian has a lot of finno-ugric and tatar loan words and borrowings from old church slavonic. ukrainian is more pure slavic like polish.
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>>67942054
Man... Russia is an asshole.
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>>67942779
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>>67942779


all those round slav domes
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>>67942721
A half population of Ukraine can't speak ukrainian lang, they mostly speaks surzhyk/russian.
Just imagine that 170kk ppl in USA speak spanish and eng-spanish mixed language/
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>>67942879
>>67942881
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>>67942054
Because it was Novgorod, and so-called "Kievan Rus" was a very unsteady confederation anyway

Because the Imperial authorities didn't even consider it as a separate language

We normally don't

Because catholicism is heresy

Technically, it was a Georgian who ordered to do it, and it was Ukrainian NKVD officers who performed this order. I don't understand how it is Russians' fault.

Because you were trying to ally with our enemies. We will rather destroy your country completely than let you join NATO.
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>>67942486
>implications of honest, totally non-rigged Putinvotes XD
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>>67942927
Totally not ISIS look alike
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>>67942927
Nazism isnt anything special. Pic related is an annual celebration of Hitlers birthday in Pärnu
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Ukrainians are cute creatures. Very proud and stuff.
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>>67943102
You know that Hitler killed millions of Poles and Jews? Are you OK with this?
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>>67943011
>Technically, it was a Georgian who ordered to do it, and it was Ukrainian NKVD officers who performed this order. I don't understand how it is Russians' fault.

my grandfather survived the holodomor but you have a good point there.
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>>67940134
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>>67943133
Dont really give a fuck about jews. Poles are based tho.
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>>67943180
kek
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>>67943102
Look at this little cute nazi cake :3
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>>67943133
Baltics and Poles have never seen eye to eye on Nazism because the former considered Hitler a liberator from Soviet tyranny. That's also true of Finland, their history books officially denounce Nazism but most Finns don't actually have any problem with their wartime ally. Poles simply will always see them as butchers who tried to kill and enslave everyone in Poland.
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>>67943271
>Baltics and Poles have never seen eye to eye on Nazism

Yyy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_the_Polish_nation
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>>67943271
>Poles simply will always see them as butchers who tried to kill and enslave everyone in Poland.

Like u savages did in ww2?
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>>67942054
>Why do Russians rewrite history books to hide the fact that Kievan Rus was first organized state in the region?
Because Rurik came to Grand Novgorod. And it was Novgorod Rus, at first. Also for foreigners there's such a things like Novgorodian/Kievan/Moscovian/etc Rus. They called it just a "Rus" and "Separated Rus" for centuries.
>Why did Russians suppress our language for centuries?
Eh? You can talk if you want. The fact is - you're still doing it.
>Why did Russians deny us any separate identity as people?
Because common history and shiet. There's not much difference between russian/ukraninian/belarussian now.
>Why did Russians suppress the Uniate Church and impose the ROC on us?
Well, dunno. Ask a Vladimir the Great which is your national hero. Or he's not?
>Why did Russians starve millions of Ukrainians in 1931-33?
Same stuff happened not only in Ukraine. Volga area started dying because of starvation even earlier for 15+ years. So you're not a snowflake.
>Why do Russians in 2014 illegally seize our land?
Because:
1) they wanted it
2) tactical place
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>>67943325
>he thinks all Ukrainians were Banderites when it was a group of probably a few hundred people in the western area of the country
>he doesn't know that Germany had no more use for Ukraine than Poland since we were in the way of their planned lebenschraum
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>>67943325
we killed less civilians in any country than nazis but somehow blamed for all rapes and deaths
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Wait, wasn't the Uniate Church just a ruse for the P-L Commonwealth to Polonize Ukraine?
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>>67943421
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_repressions_of_Polish_citizens_(1939%E2%80%9346)
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>>67940671
This. It's an age of the invisible wars and shadow governments, corporations.
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>>67943421

>russia dindu nuffin
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>>67940237
>Yeh but Russia has nukes so they can do w/e they want.

We can't say this way, because such attitude can very easily lead to global proliferation of nuclear weapon - every country will begin its nuclear program, and the future of humanity will be endangered. Russia can't do anything it wants only because it has nukes.
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>>67943767
I was being ironic.
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>>67943767
>every country will begin its nuclear program
Are you pretending to be naive or something?
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>>67943767

ok, kojima.
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>>67943818
Even Azerbeijan is able to construct 10MT nuclear warhead because it is a simple technology. If you worked few years more, you would develop carriers for these warheads.
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>>67943382
The 1921 Volga famine happened because of the country's infrastructure was disrupted from the civil war. The 1930s famines happen deliberately because Stalin took all the grain and starved millions.
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>>67943610
WE DEM GOOD BOIS
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actually this
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>>67943861
>The 1930s famines happen deliberately because Stalin
It's a position of Kiev.
And our position is
>because of the country's infrastructure was disrupted from the civil war
just like at Volga and other areas.
It wasn't directly against unkrainians. It wasn't direct at all.
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>>67940134
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>>67944037
Funny I didn't know the civil war was still going on in 1931 when Ukraine's granaries were confiscated.

They also took all livestock or else peasants butchered animals instead of give them up to Stalin's jackboot thugs. so many cattle and pigs died that the population of livestock didn't recover to 1929 levels until 1980s.
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>>67943897

DAS RIGHT
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>>67943988

zaporizhia is ukrainian.
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>>67944037
>civil war
>1922
>holodomor
>1932
Funny how the infrastructure damage kicked in only 10 years later
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>>67944121
It's now a civil war itself. It's effects of civil war. Kinda hard to manage whole country which is not small at all right after you've came to the power.
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>>67944094

its missing a swedish flag.
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>>67944121
Wait, didn't some kind of war or something happen in Ukraine about 10 years later? One would assume a lot of livestock were lost from that...
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>>67944168
no
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>inb4 they claim that Stalin wasn't Russian (which admittedly he wasn't) and actually he killed 50 gorillion Russians and they were even more victims than us
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>>67944221
UNR and Makhno's anarchy ended with the civil war. Next war was in the 1939
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>>67944121
>>67944169
why did soviets not finished you if they can?
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>>67940134
:^)
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>>67944307
They couldn't.
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>>67944037
>It's a position of Kiev
Maybe because it's the truth as opposed to revisionist Putin history books.
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>>67944094
It's missing an australian flag
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>>67944353
I can say exactly the same about Kiev.
That's the point of disputable subjects.
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>>67944256

its was host to the cossacks and part of a free cossack state.
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>>67944444
>disputable subjects
It's as disputable as Russian presence on Donbass.
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don't euros ever get bored of bickering over clay?
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>>67944444
ebin ged :DD
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>>67944346
>organize starvation
>just repeat
>just repeat
>just repeat
>just repeat
>just repeat
>They couldn't.
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>>67944514
This continent is cursed. And the most irritating thing is that the fire always begins because of Germany or Russia, our ADHD neighbours. This time it looks as if Russia wanted to be Hitler.
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>>67944553
>Russian humor
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>>67944597
damage control
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hello friend, your map had a few tiny errors but i managed to fix them now :)
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Its absolutely hilarious how butthurt russians are about Ukraine and Poland. Keep that assblast coming
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>>67944843
I don't want to be in the center of Russian attention :(
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>>67944843
they don't seem like the angry ones itt desu
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>>67944878

this has actually been a very civil thread with low levels of butthurt on either side.
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>>67944459
yes, cossaks, ancestors of russians dumbfuck
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>>67945087
>cossaks, ancestors of russians dumbfuck
You fucking wot m8.
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>>67945087
>yes, cossaks, ancestors of russians dumbfuck

ancestors of russians, ukrainians, ruthenians, poles, jews, lithuanians and tatars. but mostly ukrainian serfs running away from polish landlords.
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>>67945131
>>67945285
hohols need to leave

Russia is the one true heir to the cossack state
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>>67945310
You missed your historical period by like 500 years mate.
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>>67945310

t. russian historian
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Ukrainins are literally poles and russians in some frankenstien country
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>>67945496

americans are literally germans and anglos in some 60% country.
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>>67943853
It's not about able/could/can, this kind of weapons need proper finance and infrastructure to provide for it, i'm not even talking about scientific side, competent personnel to produce and maintain it.
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>>67945583
Experts assessed that Poland could build a dozen of nuclear warheads in about a year, because we have staff needed to do such thing, industry, access to enriched uranium thanks to our nuclear reactors, f.e. in Swierk. The only problem for us would be constructing carriers, because we never had access to strategic rocket technologies during soviet times, but it is also not a problem for us currently - we could receive ICBM technology from Ukraine. We give them loans counted in billions dollars, they would even give us everything they got in the field of rocket technology for free if we only asked for it.
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>>67945722
BTW, the link to articles about this subject. You can google translate them

http://www.wiadomosci24.pl/artykul/polska_moze_wyprodukowac_kilkanascie_bomb_atomowych_130800.html
http://wiadomosci.dziennik.pl/wydarzenia/artykuly/477116,polska-bomba-atomowa-czy-mozemy-miec-bron-jadrowa.html
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>>67945310
russian cossacks
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>>67945722
>Grim-2 tactical nuke launcher when
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>>67945844
I hope that never :/
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>>67940685
>you cringe you lose
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>>67940134
>Implying Siberia is not a colony
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>>67943988
>UPA flag
k y s
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>>67946272
UPA did nothing wrong :^)
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I'm not Ukrainian, but fuck you all for insulting our based Ukrainian allies.
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>>67946296
>>67946413
>Ukraine
>based
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>>67946156
This is an insult to intelligence. How deluded people can be. This is just so repulsive.
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Don't make me post the pics of Banderite atrocities from WWII.
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>>67946458

>every ukrainian is bandera himself
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>>67946823
Maymays aside, I don't really like UPA for these crimes against civils and I feel sorry for you based bros. Yes, you did some bad stuff against us in the past, but it doesn't matter now cause you have civilized and there is noting to be mad anymore, unlike dirty savage rustards.
But I do respect UPA and Stepan Bandera for one thing - how terrified and mad a dirty rusmonkey feels whenever it hears these names. Other than that there's nothing heroic about UPA and Bandera.
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Back in Rzeczpospolita times, Ukrainians were little more than steppe nigger savages. Everything they have, all civilization, culture, and literacy was made possible by Poles. Cossacks continually waged war and raided the commonwealth because of their resistance to the idea of civilization.
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>>67946959
>how terrified and mad a dirty rusmonkey feels whenever it hears these names
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There is one thing everyone should learn from that Russian invasion of Ukraine - if you have nukes you can never give them back. Ukrainian politicians were so naive signing the Budapest Memorandum, it's mindblowing today.
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>>67945844
We signed NPT, so we can't develop nuclear weapon. If any of our allies or Russia found out that we are doing or did it in secret, they would put such sanctions on us, that these Iranian ones are a child toy. It would kill our economy. The price is too high to risk. Besides imagine that we have this secretly built nuclear weapon and Russia attacks us. What do we do? Nuke Moscow and Sanct Petersbug and few other cities, kill 10-50 mln of Russians? Russia retaliates, and our country is turned into a black hole. There is no longer Poles and Poland. Russia nukes half of Europe yet out of fury, the second half dies slowly because of the nuclear fallout.

Such scenario is the dead end for humanity and it cannot happen. It is better for us to not have nuclear weapon at all.
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>>67948219
pussy
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>>67948272
The risk was much smaller during communist times. We tried to develop our own nukes in 70s in secret from our soviet masters, It ended very quickly with assasination of leading professors and scrapping the program.
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>>67940671
>>67940134

This.

The Commies killed the intelligensia, upper class and anyone with an ounce of brain in the ukraine so now their populace can be easily swayed into vassalage for whoever is stronger at the moment without any notion about what's actually going on or any regard for what's good for them, violent subhumans just like A-rabs.
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>>67946959
How terrified can be white man when hear name of subhuman criminal.
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>>67948765
>ukrainian intilligentsia
Holy shit
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>>67949065
this
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>>67949029
>turk-mongolic ruzke scum
>white
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>>67947079
>continually waged war and raided the commonwealth because of their resistance to the idea of civilization
It's still the same, the only difference is that they rob their own country now.
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>>67949065
Missed the part where you kind of killed all of them off.
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>>67943271
>Poles have never seen eye to eye on Nazism
I assume this is a typo
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>why don't you care about evil R*ssians killing us, anon?
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>>67951317
How come Russia has hot feminists while ours are pig disgusting dyke lesbian hambeasts?
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>>67951429
Turkey's feminists look like normal people too.
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>>67951429
I was thinking the same, must be the cold climate stuff
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>>67945809
Lol
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>>67951476
>MEME FOR FREE TURKEY
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>>67951429
>hot
Why are your standards so low, anon?
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well i think russia's pretty great and din du nuffin
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>>67951429
We're cultures where we still believe in traditional gender roles and women expected to not be fat or lesbians or crap like that.
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>>67951429
We have them, but they now their place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivT-I-yxtdY
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>>67951514
Nice stealth "Turkey is white" shitpost.
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>>67946959
>how terrified and mad a dirty ukrmonkey is when calls bandera and UPA heroes
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>>67948765
>The Commies killed the intelligensia, upper class and anyone with an ounce of brain in the ukraine
Now you're talking about Poland.
Ukraine never had inteligentsia. Every great artist or scientist from Ukraina and Litwa spoke Polish and identified himself as a Pole.
Not that any of it matters because Ruskies killed them all and all that's left are uninventive subhumans from the bottom of the barrel.
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>>67952976
Yeah as far as I know Poles were all of the landowners in Ukraine while the white collar professionals were Jews and Ukrainians were just dumb peasants.
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>>67942054
IIRC they say that the Kievan Rus is Russia

Assimilation

Assimilation

Dunno much, probably geopolitics

Godless communist collectivization

Geopolitics
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Tbh ukraine should have played abit closer to russia

Now if only usa did not bomb serbs, and seperatists did not flip shit against serbian govt
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>ukrainian butthurt thread
What a joyful day it is
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>>67953206
Kosovo and Bosnia were a mistake
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>>67953455
I missed it. Here are too few Ukrainians on /int/.
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>>67953497
Barely a decade out of cold war and the butthurt cycle began again
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>>67953557
>began again
The butthurt never ended.
Butthurt is the fuel of nations.
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>>67953689
But before that there was a chance for butthurt to end

Problem is Russia does not trust eu enough, and eu is not able to 100% show it is not affected by US interests
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>>67953820
Russia has the reason not trust EU exactly because EU is cucked by the US.
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>>67953881
Russia is too big for the EU and it has too many non-Europeans.
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>>67953820
>But before that there was a chance for butthurt to end
Nah.
>Problem is Russia does not trust eu enough
No wonder.
>and eu is not able to 100% show it is not affected by US interests
Because it is.
>>67954009
>Russia is too big
ftfy
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>>67954009
>>67953881
If EU can act independtly of US, maybe then Russia will put down rusty nrs-40
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>>67954009
I didn't imply Russia joining the EU if that's what you meant.
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>>67954009
>too many non-Europeans.
such as ukrainians
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>>67954431
Half of you are mixed with Mongol, churka, shitskin, Kalmyk while Ukraine has one of Europes highest percentages of blue eyed blondes.
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>>67954431
Too bad they didn't realize it earlier.
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>>67954594
>Ukraine has one of Europes highest percentages of blue eyed blondes
Nice meme, khazar decedent.
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>>67954594
>highest percentages of blue eyed blondes.
this is why you will never be european
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>>67954826
You were saying?
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>>67940134
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>>67954594
And what does that have to do with being european? Are you one of those idiots who think europeans are the blue eyed blondes and nothing else?
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>hohol desperately spamming pics of porn sluts and mail order brides (Ukraine's two largest industries) to prove that he's white
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>>67955188
it's not blonde it's ash blonde and we have like 70% of our pop.
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>>67940134
>the inhabitants of eastern Ukraine and Crimea aren't allowed to have self-determination this is all 110% Russian meddling REEEEEEE
Honestly Kiev can eat it.
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>>67955743
pic
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Honestly the only reason this "country" exists is so Russia doesn't border us.
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Ukrainians cross Polish border. Notice Jews :-DD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA8nm5jx5ZI
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>>67940265
This
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Ukraine belongs to Russia desu.

Russia should annex it after giving romania back their stolen pieces
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>>67956035
Wait, there's Jews in modern Ukraine? I thought they all disappear mysteriously about 70 years ago.
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>>67956288
Nothing belongs to Russia. Russia is a meme country and needs to be dismantled asap.
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>>67956338
Relax Hans, at least Russia is not selling their culture, history and people to the turks
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>>67956311
Lolllllll ukraine have more jews per capital than Israel
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>>67940134
to be fair I don't give a shit about who's morally wrong and who's bad and good, USA vs Russia

I took offence with the Ukrainian war because:
it benefits no one other than putin because he has better support
it sets a standard
russia is a shithole whose imperialism brings no good to the people, not even the citizens
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>>67956381
he's greek btw
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>>67956381
What do we need culture and history for? It only generates wars. Whole world should be ruled by America, it is the only way to achieve global peace. Otherwise we will come back to centuries of wars and self-destruction
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>>67956494
Kek, nice bait.
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>>67956561

I am not kidding. Russia promotes "patriotism" and supports nationalist movements in Europe, because Russia wants to destroy Europe and drown it in hellfire of wars again.
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>>67956600
Russia promotes patriotism to avoid Ukraine fate
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>>67956381
>muh culture
>muh history
>muh people
Ironically, it's people like the Turks who can never shut up about that shit.
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>>67956445
>whose imperialism
its not imperialism
we need buffer state cuz of nato
not more than buffer state
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>>67956679
America must now to change the ideological skin to control all these new-nationalists, so they wouldn't be tools in hands of Russia.

Can't you just leave Europe alone?
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>>67956400
Apparently they must spawn from the soil of Ukraine though abiogenesis because I always just kind of assumed they all, uh, died back then.
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>>67955064
you're a part of it too
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>>67956718
you need death
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>>67956730
we want to trade
you don't want to trade cuz muh ukraine
we try to install pro russian government to trade
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>>67956795
yes
your death
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>>67956858
Come at me. No triggerbot in real life.
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>>67956035
AJ WAJ BORDERS ARE ANTISEMIDIG :-DDD
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>>67956930
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>>67957003
nice image
big shame it won't stop us from smashing your country into pieces and wipe our asses with russian flags
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>>67956494
>this whole post
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>>67957095
unfortunately russians have no much flags
you will need clean your asses with your own tongues
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>>67957003
She looks like a typical Seba bydlo from the commieblocks, but with longer hair.
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>>67957375
DELET
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>>67940134
I hope we can both get rid of our corrupt governments and actually be normal again
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>>67962136
Are you speaking about Russia or NZ?
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All Slavs should be exterminated desu, especially East Slavs
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>>67940685
Wow. That's....wow.
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