>Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his

BASED WEEDMAN

>>67910760
>Mr. Castro made significant improvements to the education and healthcare of his island nation
Except only Castro got to use any of it.

>>67910760
>he actually said this

http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2016/11/26/statement-prime-minister-canada-death-former-cuban-president-fidel-castro

Just when I think I can't have any more contempt for him he comes out and surprises me.

>>67910760
Canada really should be wordfiltered to Current Year: The Country 2bh

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>>67910760
Castro was based.

Canada should be burned and salted

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compare and contrast

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>The name of this distinguished statesman is rightly considered the symbol of an era in modern world history. Fidel Castro was a sincere and reliable friend of Russia. [Castro has built a] free and independent Cuba [that] became an influential member of the international community and served as an inspiration for many countries and peoples. [He was ] strong and wise person who always looked to the future with confidence. He embodied the high ideals of a politician, a citizen and a patriot sincerely convinced of the rightness of the cause to which he dedicated his whole life. His memory will forever remain in the hearts of the citizens of Russia.

Putin seems to agree with Trudeau.

Maybe OP should settle down before we decide to buddy up with Russia instead of being a bulwark in Eastern Europe.

>>67910760
>larger than life

What an idiotic cliché. Also, it's especially unsuited for someone whose life just ceased.

bravo Trudeau

>>67910760
Castro did nothing wrong ruta puerto.
Captcha: Puerto Habana

>All the people who have never lived under communism are celebrating it
Make no mistake: the Soviet Union won the Cold War.

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>>67911598
>Drumpf shills will believe this nonsense

Embarrassed to be honest.

>>67911917
leafs really are the scum of the planet

>>67911913
>inb4 based Bezmenov videos about Soviet subversion in America

Shucks, I'll post it myself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

>>67911675
This is so funny to me.
>college hippies support countries like Venezuela and people like Castro
>/pol/ uses this against them

>Putin actually does things to help Venezuela and Castro
>/pol/ still believes he is the Savior of the White Race™

>>67912299
>believing KGB agent

is /pol/ retarded?

>>67912506
Do you even have to ask?

>>67910892
Who cares? His actual policies are center to center-right, he just uses memes to get himself elected head mod of /r/Canada

>>67911598
I wonder what Obanana's remarks about Castro's passing will be. I can only imagine

>>67911598
And that doesn't even cover all the funding of terrorism around the globe or allowing the USSR to use Cuba as a giant aircraft carrier 90 miles from our shores.

>>67911675
>ex-KGB guy praises Russia's obedient sock puppet for 30 years

Stop the presses.

Viva comandante!

>>67912925
It was already published hours ago, which you'd know if you read anything besides Breitbart

>>67912978
>funding of terrorism around the globe
lmao at this coming from America

wonder who funded the Mujaheddin, dictators and death squads in Afghanistan, Chile, Guatemala, Indonesia, South Vietnam, and loads more

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

>>67913558
Dindu nuffin

>>67910760
"Against Washington's will, in the middle of the cold war, in 1976, Pierre Elliott Trudeau then the Canadian Prime Minister, became the first leader of a country that is part of the NATO to go in Cuba."

I know my father was very proud to consider him a friend and I had the opportunity to meet Fidel when my father died, "in Montreal at his funeral in 2000, said Justin Trudeau.

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>trudeau pissing off the yanks and the aut-right
>trump pissing off the spics and the college leftists

I'm loving this to be desu. Funny thing is neither of them are as extreme as they're made out to be.

>>67910760
Fidel Castro was based and a distant relative.

>stupid fucking leftards are sad because Castro is dead
>yet they are butthurt when people are sad because Hitler/Mussolini/fascists in general are dead

Fucking subhumans

(sorry for my shitty english, I'm french)

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>>67913648

>>67913775
Castro and Mussolini were heroes. Hitler was just an autist.

>>67913681
Hola primo

>>67910892
isn't that statement basically factual truth though? why the hate

>>67914069
aut-right spergs and /pol/yps have an instinctive kneejerk reaction to anything that isn't fascist

>>67914047
Justin pls go>>67914054

>>67914141
>it's either facism or communism, there is no other option

>>67914239
in the long term, that is true. socialism or barbarism. liberal capitalism is crumbling before our eyes.

>>67914281
>liberal capitalism is crumbling before our eyes.
Things commies said since XIX centory for 100$, please.

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>>67912114
>He still believes Trump is the hero of the West.
>He still thinks Trump didn't play you like a fiddel

>>67914069
>why the hate
Cuban diaspora unable to cope with the fact that their former country could survive without them.

>>67913775
Don't think anyone cares for Mussolini but Hitler did invade other countries and caused millions of deaths unlike Castro, so it's not comparable. Why are alt-rightists so fucking retarded

>>67913558
Hi, Ahmed.

>>67914477
is he wrong?

>>67914447
No but Castro supported leftist terrorism around the globe and also directly sent troops to support Marxist regimes in Africa.

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>>67914325
Capitalism is cyclical and one look at the political and economic situation of Europe, Russia, America and the Middle East is enough to make anyone concerned, aside from arms companies of course. The chaos and exploitation in the world will continue as long as this system exists.

>>67914521
>USA
dont talk about supporting opressive regimes. Castro got in power because you supported a military coup in Cuba, and the said military leader (Batista) let Mafia run his country and capital, helped American mafia and overally fucked the poor in his country, which of course led to marxist supporters rising up against him.

>>67914477
Try again, Pablo

>>67914521
>Capitalist USA funds religous extremists in the M.E. and a starts a war in Vietnam
>Somehow the US is more right than Cuba
The doublethink is real.

>>67914596

>tfw Cuba could have been Las Vegas instead of the shithole it is today

>>67914596
>>67914281
>>67914499
All samefag. All proxy Kremlinbot.

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>>67914644
We're actually all remenants left over from CTR

>>67914370
Trump already made liberals butthurt for 19 days straight. I'm okay with that.

>>67913558
>but you're lynching negores...

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>>67914644
hello Hillary Clinton

>>67914521
>try to kill castro dozens of times
>try to destroy cuba dozens of times
>impose blockade and threaten to bomb cuba if they don't bend the knee
>hurr why are these guys such fucking terrorists omg

>>67914054
Hola

>>67914723
>He admits Americans only know how to vote for memes
Stay cucked. maybe you will soon admit to the greatness of the Northern Trudeau.

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>>67914572
>socialists never start wars

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>>67914785
Batista dindu nuffin he was a good boy!

>>67914644
you forgot one:
> All truth.

A lot of whataboutism by these commie cunts ITT. You're a piece of shit if you defend Castro.

>>67914781
Funny thing how hillary didn't gave a shit about gays until this campaign.

>>67914837
I didn't say that. There's a difference between a progressive class war than one for profit, like WW1. Wars between workers are bad, but wars directed at the elites are good and should be a brutal war of extermination.

>>67914977
Cry more. Castro is a global icon.

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DESCANSE EM PAZ, COMPANHEIRO FIDEL
REST IN PEACE, COMRADE FIDEL
Yesterday died the biggest of all latin-americas, the commander in chief of the Cuban Revolution, my friend and comrade Fidel Castro Ruz.
For the people of our continent and the workers of the poorest countries, specially for the men and women of my generation, Fidel was always a voice of struggle and hope.
Your fighting and solidarity spirit cheered dreams of freedom, sovereignty and equality. At the worst moments, when dictatorships dominated the major nations of our region, the bravery of Fidel and the example of the Cuban Revoluion inspired those that resisted tiranny.
I met him personally in July 1980, in Manágua, during the celebrations of the first anniversary of the Sandinista Revolution. Since then, we've kept an affectionate and intense, based on the search of ways to emancipation of our people.
I feel your death like the loss of an older brother, of an unreplaceable comrade which I will never forget.
Will be eternal, your legacy of dignity and commitment for a fairer world.
Hasta siempre, comandante, amigo e companheiro Fidel Castro.
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva
São Paulo, 26 de novembro de 2016

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>>67915131
kys, leftist twat

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>>67915194
You first

>>67915131
>A class war isn't just a convenient tool for someone to rise to power.

>>67915373
>opposing castro makes me a nazi
idiot

>>67914447
So what?

Napoléon is a hero here and he invaded other countries.

>>67910892
He's correct though, the (US supported) military dictatorship of Batista was infinitely worse than the Castro regime.

>>67915194
God

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>>67915389
Class war is constant and permeates every section of society, whether you like it or not. I'd rather have my class in power.

>>67915450
anyone who wants leftists to kill themselves and communists killed probably is a nazi. even if they're not, they're still reactionary scum. /int/ is full of /pol/yps

>>67915633
I don't want leftists to kill themselves. Communist, tyrant sympathisers however...

>>67914837
Kek

>>67911540
We already know that Juncker is a rabid commie

>>67910760
JUSTin

>>67914281
kys retard

Capitalism did nothing wrong, keep crying on the internet about others having more than you

>>67913021
Yo yo hol up
So u be sayin
Russia be pretending not to be but
It be communist N shit ?

>replace corrupt, fascist regime with authoritarian, communist regime

don't you love idealists?

Fidel was pretty OK guy, he BTFO USA and didn't afraid of anything.

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>>67915903
>Capitalism did nothing wrong
Can't wait for your property to be seized senpai

>>67913558
If the United States does it, it is not terrorism.

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>>67915978
If the US was truly for democracy and freedom it would've BnTFO out Cuba once the Soviet Union collapsed. Don't be a fool, the globalists allowed Cuba to exist. Communist dictatorships are an experiment, communism is the political system of the New World Order.

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>>67910760
Most communists are hypocrites. They tell you fucking poetry about an utopia where everyone shares and tells you the rich are the worst scum on earth. Yet they still have iphones, drink pepsi and watch movies made by the evil american imperialists. They tell you Fidel us a great person, but the guy lived better than the rest of the country, had luxuries and a better life. Oh but he was based he loved his countrymen. Hypocrites.

>>67916087
>Capitalism is the same thing as imperialism
Nice joke.

>property to be seized
If you can not contribute to the betterment of the state, then you have no place owning property.

>>67916087
Who's going to come seize it?

Literally every major country in the world has shifted to capitalism for a long time now.

You're just a loser who can't work hard and wants things to just fall into his lap. There's no need to be butthurt, you can get rich too if you try.

>>67916182
>Hypocrites.

that would be true, if there was such a thing as ethical consumption under capitalism

>>67910760
Why are Poles so nazi

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>>67916182
>Yet they still have iphones, drink pepsi and watch movies made by the evil american imperialists

>people living under capitalism partake in activities produced by capitalism

wow, really makes u think

>>67916251
>ethical consumption

What does that even mean

>>67916087
Capitalism only means free market through consumerism of goods and services. Your picture shows what is an imperialist privately army hidden behind the true ideals of freedom.

>>67916264
Pack your shit and go live in Cuba or Venezuela then.

>>67910760
B A S E D weedman

>>67916309
>Capitalism only means free market

pure ideology, mein gott

capitalism is a mode of production

>>67916337
I love you blue Peru.

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>>67916087
Nice argument, friendo

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>>67916243
>Nice joke.
ah it wasn't true capitalism of course! let's just ignore how capitalism was spread around the world through empires and colonialism

>If you can not contribute to the betterment of the state, then you have no place owning property.
Nobody has any place owning private property. It's an aberration in the grand scheme of human history, only existed for around 350 years, less than that in most countries.

>>67916249
>There's no need to be butthurt, you can get rich too if you try.
Because millionaires who inherit wealth work so hard.

>>67916395
Not as many people inherit wealth as you think.

And even if they do, what's wrong with inheritance? If your dad worked really hard all his life, why shouldn't he pass on the money to his offspring?

>>67910760
Just went on Twitter and saw the amerishit tears. I approve.

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>>67916243
>If you can not contribute to the betterment of the state, then you have no place owning property.

That's communism or fascism or some other crazy ideology but capitalism it is not!

>>67916395
You're a fucking idiot mate, someone who is against private property is out of their ducking mind. It's useless to have any reasonable arguments beyond this point.

>>67915450

It does

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>>67914069
>>67914141
he left out the part where Castro persecuted gay people, persecuted dissident artists, banned non-state media and instituted a state-run council to control any artistic expression.

Castro also seized all commercial property, from the largest landowners down to the village shopkeeper, and ended up driving anyone with education or money out of the country, which needless to say caused huge economic problems. He used slave labour, forcibly conscripting "idle" men aged 15-26 into work battalions. His 'Cuban socialist paradise' was basically a sham, entirely propped up by the Soviet Union for propaganda purposes.

When the USSR collapsed in the early 90s it caused the wholesale collapse of Cuba's economy, and it turned out that even after thirty years in power to organise Cuba's economy on ideal socialist principals, Castro still couldn't provide for his people; thanks to his economic policies, poverty and malnutrition were rampant. Many Cubans were forced to turn to prostitution.

Castro executed hundreds of innocent people during the revolution, and while he was in power imprisoned any critics or protesters.

He was also a warmonger sending arms, money, and the Cuban secret service all over the world trying to overthrow governments (which was particularly hypocritical given his opinions on the CIA). He was also a racist, in that he supported the aggressive fascist junta in Argentina during the Falklands conflict - when by all logic they should be his mortal enemy - simply because they were fellow Latinos.

Oh, and he almost caused an apocalypse. While Kruschchev and Kennedy were desperately trying to find a way out of the Cuban Missile crisis, Castro was pushing Kruschchev to nuke the US.

But free healthcare, right?

Praising Castro for introducing free education and healthcare is like praising Hitler for introducing fairer working hours and paid vacations for German workers. It's factually true, but with some rather important omissions.

>>67916539
>Praising Castro for introducing free education and healthcare is like praising Hitler for introducing fairer working hours and paid vacations for German workers. It's factually true, but with some rather important omissions.
Don't forget that the Nazis banned/discouraged smoking for the first time, the absolute saints.

>>67916087
>extermination of indians
>was caused by capitalism
>first world war
>was caused by capitalism
>nazi terror
>was caused by capitalism
>japanese imperialism
>capitalism

why are people so retarded

>>67916337
Typical nazi argument kys

>>67916395
Your image, like everything else you've said is retarded.

Just kys

The value of something isn't derived from the labor put into it.

Why are paintings created in 5 hours worth millions?

Why is digging a hole manually for 10 hours not more valuable than digging it in 15 mins with machinery?

>>67916309
There's nothing free about it. From the enclosure of land in the 17th century to modern wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, capitalism is always enforced at gunpoint.

>>67916453
>Not as many people inherit wealth as you think.
nobody should

>And even if they do, what's wrong with inheritance? If your dad worked really hard all his life, why shouldn't he pass on the money to his offspring?
His offspring didn't earn it. Those who do work hard, the working class, pass on nothing. A completely warped society.

Isn't Cuba doing relatively quite a lot better than other non-commie islands around there?

>>67916659
Highest HDI in the region. In other news Reagan loved papa Doc of Haiti.

>>67916495
Property allocation in an ideal capitalist society is based off of how useful you are to the community.
In practice there are problems such as inheritance, and stock investment. However, someone in the family of Ford is much more valuable to history than a rice farmer.

>>67916636
So?

He earned it, why can't he decide who to give money HE EARNED to?

Why are you so fundamentally against freedom?

And actually inheritance is the best way to get a generation out of poverty. Work hard and save and you can pass on money to your children who will have a higher quality of life than you, and so on.

>le working class

My parents are working class, we live in a two million dollar home. Immigrants from a 3rd world country too. Rest assured my children will have an even better quality of life thanks to it.

>>67916594
All of it is true AfD faggot

>>67916511
>You're a fucking idiot mate, someone who is against private property is out of their ducking mind
Alternatively, someone who recognises it for the undemocratic and oppressive sham that it is.

>>67916594
The profit motive and expansion of capital in the search for new markets and resources was behind all those. The Indians didn't practice capitalism. WW1 was opposed by all socialists for a reason. The Nazis were funded by businessmen like Krupp. Japan embraced industrial capitalism in the 19th century in order to compete with the European capitalist powers.

>>67916659
If you believe what they say

>>67916834
>waging war for resources is unique to capitalism.

>>67916820
>everyone is a nazi xD

Hmm rly makes one thing

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>>67916807
>He earned it
By exploiting others. What he actually earned he can keep. The surplus he stole in the name of "profit" will be taken from him.

>Why are you so fundamentally against freedom?
I'm not. I want freedom for all, but that will never be possible under capitalism or any other class society.

>And actually inheritance is the best way to get a generation out of poverty. Work hard and save and you can pass on money to your children who will have a higher quality of life than you, and so on.
No, investing in infrastructure, housing, healthcare, education and sustainable growth is, without parasitic capitalism propping up a tiny elite.

>My parents are working class, we live in a two million dollar home. Immigrants from a 3rd world country too. Rest assured my children will have an even better quality of life thanks to it.
Good for you. But social mobility has been going down for decades so frankly I doubt it.

>>67916955
If you hate socialism (=equality and social justice) you are a nazi.
>inb4 NatSoc is socialism

>>67916933
To exploit resources for profit is. Arms companies and governments love war. Booming profits and distracting the populace.

reminder that fidel's son has a yatch in turkey while people in cuba dont have thootpaste

>>67916975
>I doubt it

Social mobility is easy as fuck you stupid clown.

Study hard, major in something not retarded, network, good gpa, internships or co-op and you can easily make $60-80k.

Spend modestly, save and invest as much as possible and you'll have a lot. Pass that onto your kids and they'll have a much better life and after a few generations of that will be well off.

>I want freedom for all, but I can't let you decide how to spend your money or where it should go

Just kys.

done with this thread lol. Maybe you'll turn 16 soon

>>67917034
>National Socialist German Workers' Party is the name of the nazi party
>if you are not socialist you are a nazi
Hmmmmmmmm something doesn't add up. But what could it possibly be?!

>>67917144
>Study hard, major in something not retarded, network, good gpa, internships or co-op and you can easily make $60-80k.
You're still working class. Don't delude yourself just because you have a shinier car than your neighbour

>done with this thread lol. Maybe you'll turn 16 soon
that famous 16 year old Fidel Castro

>>67910760
>>>/pol/
fucking poletards

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>>67917218
Nazis immediately banned the KPD upon taking power. Not remotely left wing.

>>67917218
I already said that NatSoc is NOT socialism

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>>67917036
>Soviet invasion of the baltic states
>soviet invasion of Finland
>soviet invasion of poland
>soviet occupation of eastern europe
>North Korean Invasion of south korea
>soviet invasion of hungary
>north vietnamese invasion of South vietnam
>Chinese invasion of vietnam
>vietnamese-Cambodian war
>soviet invasion of Afghanistan
And that's just the highlights. Let me guess, they were just going in to spread freedom and socialism?

also, capitalism only really became a thing in the 17th century. Do you think the 100 years war, or the Sengoku Jidai, were caused by capitalism?

>>67917222
What's wrong with being working class if it gives you everything you need?

If I have a nice comfortable $30000 car, and my neighbor has a lambo. Does it really make my car worse? Who the fuck cares about wealth disparity.

Your ideas are retarded.

Keep dreaming bud

>>67911598
This reads as something written in 1981

>>67917290
>And that's just the highlights. Let me guess, they were just going in to spread freedom and socialism?

mostly they were to kick out puppet capitalists, revisionists and reactionaries so yeah, fine by me. Maybe if Afghanistan was socialist it wouldn't have been ruined by American funded Islamists.

>also, capitalism only really became a thing in the 17th century. Do you think the 100 years war, or the Sengoku Jidai, were caused by capitalism?
They were caused by feudalism which again, is a class based hierarchical society with exploitation.

>>67917263
Communist party is not the same as communist party. Nazis hated soviets. Still left wing.

>>67917460
Communist party is not the same as socialist party*

>>67917460
>Nazis think they are leftwing
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooo

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>>67917518
Sure Hans, we guatemalans are quite the nazis.

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>>67910760
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF

His dad was major buttbuddies with F*del too

>>67913558
>mujahideen were bad maymay

>>67917758
Pretty edgy even for this place, Rasheed.

>>67917222

What exactly is wrong with being working class?
As both Plato and Machiavelli would put it, the mass majority of people are satisfied in the middle. As long as they're not in necessity, most people find meaning and satisfaction in their lives. The aristocratic class is suppose to provide charity.

>>67915633
>Class war is constant and permeates every section of society

Ayylmao

>>67917818
>What exactly is wrong with being working class?

It creates alienation and makes people support unproductive members of society. People are not fulfilled remotely under class society. People are shoehorned into roles and work against the will and talent to fulfil the desires of others. Whether under the kings of feudalism or the industrialists of capitalism, the same problem remains.

"In communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic."

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>>67916087
>>>/leftypol/

>>67916087
Clearly all killed for furthering the capitalist cause.

anyways,

>anything before 1700
>capitalism

>>67916975
>he believes LTV

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>>67917407
>They were caused by feudalism which again, is a class based hierarchical society with exploitation.
>implying communism isn't class based.
funny how in a classless society the bureaucrats were driven around in limousines and the common workers had to take the bus.

Communism is an inherently class based society. It just swaps the business class - i.e. those achieve their position in society due to their proven track record of creating wealth, as measured by their currency earnings - with the academic class, who achieve their position by being successful in the petty bureaucratic infighting that characterises government institutions and universities. Then, instead of being exploited and looked down on by people who at least actually know how to run a factory, the workers have the fun of being exploited and looked down on by people who don't even know what they're doing.

>mostly they were to kick out puppet capitalists, revisionists and reactionaries so yeah, fine by me.
ah yes, those well known stooges of the imperialist-capitalist conspiracy in communist Vietnam, who cleverly fought the Americans for all those years to lull the communist world into a false sense of security. Just as well China didn't fall for it.

And I'm sure the Soviet invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia were just to protect the Hungarian and Czechoslovakian peoples from capitalist exploitation, and not at all because the USSR looted eastern Europe in the aftermath of WW2 to pay for their war costs, and wanted to go on exploiting it to prop up their own failing economy.

>>67916975
>No, investing in infrastructure, housing, healthcare, education and sustainable growth is, without parasitic capitalism propping up a tiny elite.

Name literally any communist country that did this anywherr near as well as western Europe

>>67917797
>protecting yourself from """"""" land reform"""""" programmes forced upon you by your KGB installed in bad
>le mujahideen = taliban maymay

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>>67917288
YOU said it? Sorry my führer, I forgot everything you say is the truth.

>>67914644
Funny you say that. Russian bots actually support trumps. It is a fact that russian shills are on this very site right now to shill trump. The world has truly changed.

>>67910760
Castro was at the funerals of his father,it's normal that he like him.
Don't talk about shit you don't know

>>67916395
>through hard work one can improve one's education or invent a new product
>this proves a long discredited 150-year old economic theory

>>67918450
>Castro was at the funerals of his father
as if that doesn't make it even worse.

>it's okay for me to say nice things about this brutal dictator. He's a family friend.

>>67910892
>>67912021
see
>>67918450

>>67918518
I don't think that your royalty is better

>>67918627
>your royalty

Literally your royalty too you fucking leaf

>>67918627
The royal family has to make connections to foreign dictators because its part of their duties promoting Britain abroad.

If Trudeau's relationship with Castro was simply down to the fact that he wants to cultivate a potentially valuable relationship with Cuba, I could forgive him for that. But I think we both know that Trudeau's views on Castro are motivated a lot more by his left-wing politics than his patriotism.

and if you haven't got a better argument than 'no u', then I think we both know that Trudeau's statements in support of Castro are indefensible.

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>>67918825
>But I think we both know that Trudeau's views on Castro are motivated a lot more by his left-wing politics than his patriotism.

No, it's because Canada has long had diplomatic and trade relations with Cuba (we are one of their top export destinations), and Castro himself was close to his father. Castro even came to Canada for his father's funeral. It has nothing to do with left-wing politics.

The Liberals are a pro-business, centre-right party.

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>>67917758
Dindu nuffin

>>67917758
>have f.lux on full blast, turning my screen orange
>see this post
>have to mouse over to verify this isn't an Iraqi or Syrian flag

>>67916539
>>67918124
>communists BTFO

>>67916600
he's actually right, go to starve to Venezuela if you like communism so bad, living with the quality of life of a rich capitalist country makes you a huge hypocrite

gotta love 18 year olds from capitalistic countries living in their mothers basement embracing communism

>>67919162
>le mujahideen was taliban maymay

>>67919267
>fighting communism is bad
>Leafposting this bad

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>>67919531

>>67919583
Talibans didnt do 9/11

>>67919719
>n-not real socialism!

everytime

>>67913852
You can hold serious convictions while being a centrist you fucking mongeloid. Centrism just means you don't go full-retard on either end of the political spectrum.

>>67919845
>he actually doesn't watch the .gif
Erik please...

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>>67916264

Thank you based Weedman!

Commie here.

While I am concerned with Cuba in the future... GOOD MOTHERFUCKING RIDDANCE.

>>67919079
This. People here don't understand how Cuba has been a close partner even when Harper was PM.

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>>67920178
>commie
>sulista

>>67920281
Yup. And a separatist to add in to the mix.

>>67919743
Yes, al qaida which was not the muhahideen did

>its a rich white kid from western world being commie episode

not sure what more pathetic this or being cuck

>>67922372
it's one and the same

>>67922372
>it's another edgy Poleshit being a nazi episode
truly pathetic

I like how Americans literallt put a fucking blockade on Cuba and whining about how Castro made it poor. Any country would become poor if you put blockade on it. Jeesus. What retarded people.

>>67922949
France didnt become poor when Brits blockaded them.
Seems like other countries should try harder.

>>67915172
MEU HEROI. VAI FIDEL, VAI O TRABALHADORES!!!

>>67922949
Americans are, along with Poles, the most narrow-minded & imbecile people on earth

>>67917328

back when america was great

>>67923011
France is not an island with colonial history now is it?

>>67922372
>what more pathetic
being a pole

>>67922949
The fact that they are that dependant on free trade (wich is not a communist concept) is just more proof that making your country communist is not good. The Soviet Union had to check the prices of products from the U.S. because their economy didn't allow the free market to ser the prices with the laws of supply and demand.

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>>67913558
They did fund the IRA. Thank fuck those Irish have calmed down.

>>67911772
not really since it implies that the persons legacy is more than just what he achieved while alive

>>67916583
Welp that's it I'm a fascist now

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>>67915501
>Napoléon is a hero

>>67923271
>IRA
>terrorists
they were freedom fighters

>>67923180
>Colonial history
Like Panama or Chile? They seem better than Cuba to me economically.

>>67923370
>they were freedom fighters

For you.

>>67923370
>kill innocent children
>freedom fighters
pick one and only one

>>67923386
Adding to that. Chile had a dictatorship too, but it was not communist.

>>67923428
The children were passively oppressing them... They had to go.

>>67923407
>>67923428
of course you would never admit it because you are dirty imperialist pigs

>>67923477
>because you are dirty imperialist pigs

For you.

>>67916539
>a warmonger sending arms, money, secret service all over the world trying to overthrow governments

It's basic principals of governing a country any significant power does that.

Britain had a very brutal intelligence and secret services (probably still has) and done much more atrocities in world in order to dominate the world.

U.S.A. does that too, much more worse than that, under name of Defense, security, integrity and Peace™ and Democarcy© . Any Power that wants to rule the world will do that probably.

You do not care about their health system nor their education nor their artists freedom of expression or whatever, do you? Why? You fancy yourself a fighter for a great cause?
You just think they're third world niggers and world is better off without them. Like many other niggers around the world, bong, don't you?

>>67923477
regardless of where you stand on irish independence, the ira were unquestionably a terrorist organisation

there isn't room for debate on this
the only thing separating them and other terrorist organisations is the colour of their skin

>>67923386
Let's go back one step. The Russian argued that blockading an island country made it poor. The French replied that they too were blockaded by brittain. I pointed out that France is not an island, and that they were not an ex colony of sorts, thus they had much better grounds to develop, even under a blockade, that didn't even last as long as the Cuba's did.

It's ok, chile and panama are both ex colonies. Hell, all of south america used to be a colony. But most of them aren't alone on an island, and most of them are not under a blockade for roughly 50 years.

>>67914477
Only thing you could came up with? Dem memes, amirite m8?

>>67923577
I was just joking myself since it's France blockading the brits that hurted Great Britain more than brit blockade hurted France.

>>67916539
couldn't have said it better myself

>>67923630
I'm dumb as a brick. I guessed you are joking only because of the second sentence, but still wanted to argue for the hell of it.

>>67923641
I bet you didn't even read it you imbecile

>>67923630
>hurted
not gonna be a dick because obviously english isn't your first language but "hurted" isn't correct

it's just hurt, m8

>>67923577
>Island
>Spanish colony
Like the dominican republic? They seem to have a much better economy than Cuba.
Also, you are talking like they were completely isolated. The soviets aided Cuba.

I don't even support cuckeau but i don't see any problem with this.

Cuba administration is not "western" business, it's their business, also under Batista it was probably far worse.

>>67923714
I realised that but since i wrote hurted first i just went "whatever i like hurted more"

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Miss me yet?

>TRUMP YOU BETTER WATCH OUT YOU FACIST CUNT
>ooh noo fidel died
hmm

>>67923265
How is free trade between countries against communism? And how is banning it is not against capitalism? Americans just can't tolerate and disobeyance to their dominance in Americas. Panama and Cuba are the beightest examples of that.

>>67923749
Dominican republic isn't blockaded. Aid from soviets doesn't equal being able to trade normally.

I'm not defending communism, It seriously is at fault for whatever the state the country is in, but it's not the only reason why Cuba is in a bad shape.

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Cuba is so great they all have yatchs

>>67923940
Yes, obviously there are more factors that contribute to haow they are right now, communism being the main one.

>>67923844
Free trade is against communist ideals because it implies that the goods that are going to be traded are owned privately, instead of distributed according to need. Furthermore money would be abolished, meaning trade would not occur with capitalist economies anyway.

>>67923844
Not saying america is not imperialistic, they did nasty shit here too. But communism is not good.

>>67924123
You don't need private property owners for your country to trade. The point iswithout blockade Cuba would just perfectly fine if even in blockade it managed to build an effective healthcare system and keep order. I mean it's really an achievement when the next door superpower cock blocks any of your economical activity. That's the same if Russia would totally stop any trade with Ukraine, occupy all its borders and block any trade with outter world just because we don't like its regime. That's ridiculous but not when it is done by "Glorious domain and freedom and democracy".

>>67924424
>effective healthcare
hahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>effective healthcare

>>67924467
>cherry picking

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>>effective healthcare

>>67924424
Marx himself said free trade is the exploitation of the working class. With free trade, goods are distributed to those who can afford them, not those who need them.

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>>67924537

>>67924424
>I mean it's really an achievement when the next door superpower cock blocks any of your economical activity.
cuba can and trades with a bunch of people

>>67924652
>data by the castro family
Oh so you believe venezuela is doing great too

>>67924639
Yet again, we talk about teade between two countries not about free trade inside the country. Societ Union buyed goods, machinery, food etc in the west and then distributed it among citizens.

>>67923070
I know this is a general tendency, but please remember that there are smart people in these countries too.

>>67924663
And Ukraine would be able to trade with Moldova, isn't that enough?

>>67924698
You're running out of arguments so you're just shitposting now

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>>67916539
How will neo-liberals ever recover?

>>67924728
I know

>>67924663
People don't quite get this, they weren't landlocked and were perfectly capable of trading with people other than us.

>>67924749
retard cuba trades with china, brazil, canada europe and rest of southamerica

>>67924771
liberalism is literally the opposite of communism

>>67924862
Neo-liberals are literally the opposite of true liberals.

>>67924705
>talk about trade between two countries
You brought this up by talking about the US embargo.
Free trade inside a country doesn't occur in a communist state. Property is not owned and therefore cannot be traded. The goods you produce are taken away and distributed

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>>67924895
still the opposite of communism / socialism

>>67924925
The Cuban peso (CUP) and the Cuban convertible peso (CUC) are both legal tender on the island, though neither is exchangeable in foreign markets. The CUC is pegged to the dollar and worth 25 times as much as the CUP. But whereas most Cubans are paid in CUP, nearly all consumer goods are priced in CUC. The system, which highlights divisions between those with access to hard currency and those without, has proved unpopular.

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>>67911917
>>67914370
>>67914834
You will have the right to talk the day you kick out Troudcuck. Also

>Americans being played

Where is your free weed now, dude (lmao)?

>>67923368
>britain

>>67924755
So you do believe venezuela is doing great? You believe in statistics from authoritarian countries?

>>67925086
That article has it wrong.

>>67916264
>implying computers and phones are as essential as food and tools necessary to produce food
The capitalist pigs you so strongly abhor truly have you on a leash.

>>67924862
Classical liberalism*

>>67911540
>implying he isn't patting himself on the back in the smuggest manner for that tweet
It's technically a technically true statement that doesn't say anything about his own opinion but still sounds great

>>67925305
You're running out of arguments so you're just shitposting now

>>67924705
Trade implies the concept of property, you cant trade what you don't own. Ofcourse, soviets contradicted themselves many times.

Although I do not support his views I respect him for he fought for them against all odds.

While Castro was absolute trash, I really hope none of the other people railing on him+his supporters aren't retards that idolize Hitler. It'd be funny though.

>>67916539
>persecuted dissident artists
nothing wrong
>banned non-state media and instituted a state-run council to control any artistic expression
nothing wrong
>Castro executed hundreds of innocent[citation needed] people during the revolution
nothing wrong
>while he was in power imprisoned any critics or protesters.
nothing wrong
>He was also a warmonger
nothing wrong

if only he wasnt a commie scum

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>mfw still triggering cock sucking bourgeois after being death

Good riddance

¡Hasta la victoria siempre!

>>67916539
>Castro persecuted gay people
See
>In 1965, the country-wide Military Units to Aid Production (UMAP) program was set up as an alternative form of military service for pacifist religious groups, such as Jehovah Witnesses, hippies, conscientious objectors, and gay men. It was believed that the work, together with the strict regimes operating within the UMAP camps, would "rehabilitate" the participants. The camps became notorious inside and outside Cuba.[20] Although the camps ended up targeting gay men more than most, "there is no evidence that [they] were created with homosexuals exclusively in mind."[26]

>A homosexual man who worked in a UMAP camp described the conditions there as follows, "[W]ork is hard because it's nearly always in the sun. We work 11 hours a day (cutting marble in a quarry) from seven in the morning to seven at night, with one hour's lunch break."[30] Fidel Castro visited one of the UMAP camps incognito to experience the treatment for himself. He was followed by 100 boys from the Young Communist League whose identity was also kept secret. In 1968, shortly after these visits, the camps closed."

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>>67925539
He didn't answer the question.

>>67924424
You are such an idiot. Cuba has trade agreements with many other countries, but the US blocks it and suddenly, its the US fault Cuba isn't good? How come Iran is so many objective standards, more advanced then Cuba despite also being blocked by the US and having a theocracy?

Of course, even with "capitalism", Cuba would still suck because its filled with too many blacks and suffered from too much brain drain. It cannot become first world.

>>67916539
I don't care for Castro but some of those are wrong, and some of those don't even matter, like the whole "he hated gays and was a racist". Like who cares? The worst thing Castro did was aiding in the overthrow of Rhodesia and South Africa.

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>>67929757
>Aiding the overthrowing of illegitimate anglo/heretical enclaves
>a bad thing
ayyy fucking leafs

>>67912506

>is /pol/ retarded

is the pope a catholic?

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>>67915633

>not wanting to kill commushits for what they did to anarchists

Fuck off, tankie

>>67916539
>he left out the part where Castro persecuted gay people, persecuted dissident artists, banned non-state media and instituted a state-run council to control any artistic expression.
This sounds like the /pol/tards dream society, why do they hate it so much again? It just uses a different name?

>>67924771

Liberals aren't commies, m8

>>67930625

A bit like how they hate Islam, despite it holding a lot of similarities to their views

>>67914980
And even when she started pretending, she did shit like say Nancy Reagan helped people with AIDS.....

>>67924698
It's UNICEF data
https://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/cuba_statistics.html

>>67932172
>The Brazilian would still dont't believe it anyways

>>67916539
The other thing is that Cuba funded leftist guerrillas and terrorists around the world in the 70s-80s, and they allowed the USSR to use them as a giant aircraft carrier and place nuclear weapons 90 miles from our shores.

Castro ruined Latin America with his promotion of leftist cancer. Almost all the shit that's happened down here since the 1960s is directly or indirectly the fault of his fuckery.

Fuck that old fuck and may him and Che be toasting in Hell together now.

>>67922949
Cuba doesn't produce anything we really need; their whole economy is just based on sugar and tobacco. Thus we lose nothing by not doing business with them.

>In a 1985 speech, President Ronald Reagan referred to Cuba, Libya, Iran, Nicaragua, and North Korea as "a confederation of terrorist states". Fidel Castro responsed by calling Reagan "the worst terrorist in the history of mankind".

>>67916539
it's OK when Daddy Pinochet does it though

>>67934646
Pinochet is no longer in power and Chile is the most developed country in the region. Cuba is still a fucking island gulag.

>>67916539
>His 'Cuban socialist paradise' was basically a sham, entirely propped up by the Soviet Union for propaganda purposes

Not just propaganda, but as a weapon to advance Soviet imperialism in the Third World. Moscow preferred to use Cuba for this purpose rather than direct intervention as they were more marketable.

>>67934489
castro was right tho

>>67932172
You would have to assume that UNICEF didn't recieve their data from the Cuban government.

>>67934921
The UN and those other international organizations are all far left supporters of Islamic gommunism. Do not trust what they say.

>>67923755
>also under Batista it was probably far worse

>In 1958, the year before the revolution, Cuba had 14 prisons containing around 4000 inmates. As of 2014, Cuba had 45 prisons containing an estimated 100,000 inmates.

You need resources to produce anything. Everything on earth comes from the earth, so it's obviously limited. Therefore not everyone can have all the resource they desire, because everyone has an idea. Something is necessary to dictate how worthy that idea is. In capitalism: the market, if it sells then invest. In socialism: the state, which normally leads to only propaganda art being made.

To live in an achievable socialist society we would need to return to the stone age

>>67935254
/thread

>>67919079
>No, it's because Canada has long had diplomatic and trade relations with Cuba (we are one of their top export destinations), and Castro himself was close to his father. Castro even came to Canada for his father's funeral. It has nothing to do with left-wing politics.

Lovely, you were bffs with a terrorist state that deprives its citizens of basic human freedoms.

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>>67910760
Daily reminder that Justin Trudeau's real father was Fidel Castro.

>>67936884
The Trudeaus had an open marriage, that was a not-too-well-hidden secret. God only knows who Justin's real father is.

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>>67937121

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Castro is Trudeau's real dad

>>67936681
I don't like Trudeau or abything, but a burger isn't really the person to rail on us about that.

>>67938511
>a new birther meme
Oh joy.

>>67910760

Why this faggot don't send his family to Cuba?

>>67938511
:DDD

>>67910760

Now I kow why North America hates Quebec.

>>67922839
>Being anti-communist MUST mean you're a nazi
Hmmm

>>67910892
wtf i love trudeau now

>>67916539
This is rich coming from a Britroach.

>>67936681
Yea the US has never done anything like that

>>67941261
Trudeau wasn't even born in Quebec

>>67919845
It was a very flawed form of it that only amounted to speding oil money to buy gibsmedat and buying tanks from Russia. It was more like populism.

You want a successful socialist country? Try Uruguay, or maybe your country? Or do you think all that worker legislation came out of nowhere?

>>67938854
I'm pretty sure we don't have diplomatic relations with Cuba, Iran, and North Korea.

>>67918627
It's our royalty you dumb-ass, get the fuck out of my country

>>67910760
fucking leafs

>>67919079
>>67920236
>Close trading partner
>Remotely important trading partners
$317.9 Million in exports and $500.4 Million in imports in a single year

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KEKED

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>>67947470
:^)

>>67910760
>Castrato praising Castro

>>67917328
It's almost like you don't need to suck a tyrannical dictator's cock just because he's dead.

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>>67947470
the evidence is inconclusive

he's just an embarrassing fucking retard.

i thought you guys were shitting me. i can't believe this. so his father's old friendship with this scum is more important to him that the canada's official position. nice.

The general consensus seems to be that he was very flawed in some ways (not holding elections etc), but ultimately brought greater prosperity to Cuba(healthcare, education etc), am I wrong in saying this? Also what's so bad about Trudeau saying this, I hate that neoliberal bastard but a broken clock is right two times a day.

>>67948137
see
>>67919079

>>67925366
Computing forms the very backbone of the world economy.

>>67948556
He was better than Batista, which is setting the bar very, very low.
>but ultimately brought greater prosperity to Cuba
It's complicated. He eliminated extreme poverty but the country is still incredibly poor. The Cuban healthcare and education meme is only partially true, the system is two tiered (Good healthcare in Havana, shitty everywhere else). If he hadn't suppressed the republicans who'd later become the vast majority of Cuban exiles than he'd have a far better reputation than he does currently.