>Entire internet history of UK citizens to be viewable by

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>>67858062
Fuck they're going to come here now

Fuck this I'm moving to Canada

wtf I am moving to Canada now

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>>67858111
>>67858250
It isn't safe there either

>>67858291
Wtf i am moving to Palestine now

>>67858291
jesus christ. if that quote is real, whoever said it deserves a bullet to the brain. that's so fucked up its past the point of "lol canada is so cucked". please don't be real.

move to east europe :^)

Wtf I am moving to Japan now.

>>67858111
>Moving to Canada
>Acting like a fucking Yank
We go to Australia, the land of the meme

>>67858411
https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/12876/index.do

It's real

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I hate this country's politics so much, wish the yanks would export lolbertarianism here just so there's somebody in parliament that doesn't think the government should have their fingers in absolutely everything

pic related, the future Libertarian Party of England and Wales' logo

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>>67858523
*whispers that you probably should have kept your guns so that you could tell them to fuck off when they tried this shit*

Wtf I hate anglos now

>>67858634
B

>>67858634
>now

>>67858523
Have you seen the state of yank politics? They elected a meme.

>>67858702
rasheed

>>67858702
>t.guardian subscriber

>>67858702
>They elected a meme.
Better than electing an enemy of the state

>>67858062
The only reason you guys don't have it cause with your Internet speed it would take a year to download 1 person history

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>>67858817

I don't understand how this is even allowed to happen. It should be an election-losing issue

>>67858291
>>67858411
He means that saying that niggers should die and immigrants should be nuked don't contribute to any discussion and shouldn't therefore be protected by right of freedom of expression. Duh.

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>>67858817

>>67858837
>189 KB
>>67859869
>125 KB

Umm.... nice try girls.... did you even see this bad boy? >>67858062

what

bongs try to 1984 irl?

Thank god our government is so fixated on muh privacy and muh constitutional rights.

>>67858062
I don't understand why they need to know that information

>>67858523
>>67858581
Libertarianism originated in England you nonce

>>67860371
just the term, and it was coined by a supporter of the American revolution

libertarianism is a pretty alien and foreign concept to most Europeans

>>67860439
That's because it doesn't work in practice. I've never met a libertarian whose logic wasn't:
>"Well if communistm is bad, then anti-communism must be perfect!"

>>67859809
but that's wrong. saying that because something doesn't "contribute to any discussion" means it shouldnt be covered under free speech is idiotic. what you're really saying is "this hurts my feelings so you shouldn't be allowed to say it". liberals used to be against that type of thought.

>>67860510
I didn't say a libertarian society would work, I just think it would be good for us if there was a party in parliament that aren't virulent statists. Currently there is nobody putting their foot down and saying where the government should and shouldn't be.

We've had a conservative government for six years and they haven't "conserved" one thing. Nada.

>>67858062
My friend worked in a bank in an internship.
He told me, as it is, they already know everything you buy. Yes they know about the supposedly discreet porn subscriptions you have, everything you buy, where you go, basically they have all of the information already.

Which does explain why the woman at the counter looked at me like that last time i went to the bank. Welp.

>>67860597
You have to understand the reason behind the introduction of freedom to free speech. It was instated in a time when government would actively censor opposing views and all that shit. Free speech was and has always been intended for allowing opposing views to debate and discuss and that there would always be a counterweight to all opinions. Hate speech is a form of slander and can hurt the mental integrity of a person so it's not desirable. Mental integrity is a basic human right as well as free speech.

There are multiple human rights that contradict each other and a judge therefore has to balance multiple human rights to come to a conclusion. It's retarded and short-sighted to defend defamation and slander of ethnic minorities under the name of "free speech".

t. lawfag

wow shitty south park predicted the future

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>>67858523
I feel you buddy. Most European countries are getting cucked by their governments. You guys just get it earlier than the rest of us

>>67859809
>He means that saying that niggers should die and immigrants should be nuked
Neither of those are facts he said specifically that facts are less important than not offending someone.

>>67860510
Libertarianism is fine, it's just insane when it gets taken to an extreme.

"The government should interfere in people's lives as little as possible" is perfectly reasonable

"The government should literally consist of a president, the military, and nothing more" is not

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>>67860740
>Hate speech is a form of slander and can hurt the mental integrity of a person so it's not desirable. Mental integrity is a basic human right as well as free speech.
not having your feelings hurt is not a human right, fuck off.

I should bring you to the European Court of Human Rights for causing me mental distress with this post, I am in disbelief that people actually think this way.

>>67860871
If you're going to act like a moron I'm not going to keep discussing.

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>>67860740
>>67860926
>>67860871
How do we save Europe

>>67860740
as the bong said, having your feelings hurt is not a human right. what hate speech was originally defined as was speech with the intent to incite violence or speech outright advocating violence, which actually made sense. you shouldn't be able to threaten people's lives and get away with it. however, in the past 5-10 years, liberals in first world countries across the world have been pushing very hard to have hate speech redefined to basically, "anything that hurts my precious feelings". that is NOT ok. I can agree it should be illegal to get up on stage in front of thousands of people and say "all niggers in this country need to be killed" but it should not be illegal to say "niggers are stupid" in the same situation. it's stupid and ignorant but it's not threatening anyone's safety and therefore should not be considered hate speech or be illegal.

>>67858062
Yea you're next Bruce

>>67860926
And what argument have you made besides an appeal to authority fallacy? Just because something was "declared" to be a human right doesn't mean I nor anybody else have to recognise it as such. The use of that term is such a brazen attempt at just shutting down any argument on the topic. You can call any old shit a human right and then just dig your heels in and refuse any argument over laws enforcing it. You could do the exact same thing with firearm ownership ffs, but do yanks declare it to be such and then refuse to make any further arguments on whether or not it is good for society? No.

>>67858459
Wrong
After brexit there was a surge of interest about moving to Canada, just like yanks

>>67861136
It's different in each country what constitutes as hate speech. Dutch civil code expresses it like:

>He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, intentionally expresses himself insultingly regarding a group of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category.

and

>He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, incites hatred against, discrimination of or violent action against person or belongings of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their gender, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category.

>>67861182
Human rights are human rights because they're codified in law, you dumb shit. That's the exact reason why they're human rights. Law is authority and law doesn't care if you agree with them or not.

>>67858817
kek
Also,

B

>>67861229
This is what I mean, you're digging your heels and refusing to say anything further besides "because the law says so". It's not an argument.

More importantly, why the fuck are you using a board on which you think 90% of the posters should be jailed?

>>67861309
Human rights are not a tangible concept. They only exist if they're instated by law. If law stops existing, rights stop existing. Human rights are a legal concept. You can't argue what should and shouldn't be a human right without using law. If you disagree with a law, that doesn't make it invalid. You should vote for whatever party you like to change the laws. Although I doubt you'll have much success because the ECHR is basically invincible.

>>67861187
that's insane. if it was only the second part about inciting hatred, discrimination or violence then that would be understandable as that's basically the "correct" definition of hate speech. but the first part basically says that you could be jailed or fined for calling a gay guy that stole your parking spot a fag. don't you think that's crazy? has it always been like that or was there a time when only the second part was what defined hate speech?

>>67861396
Well Theresa May is supposedly going to pull us out of it, so enjoy your sharia law. Doubt anything will change though, nothing ever does.

>>67861426
I'm not entirely sure on when the laws were instated. Our ultra-populist politician Geert Wilders was prosecuted a few times for it but acquitted. And yeah I agree that it's a little overboard but in practice not many people actually get convicted over it.

>>67861461
For the second time, I'm not going to seriously argue with you if you can't be bothered to come up with a serious response. I already feel like an idiot for trying to have a decent discussion on a Moldavian Carpenter forum. And to take your bait, sharia law will never ever be instated in Europe. It just doesn't work like that.

>>67861535
Why are you taking the high road and acting like any of your posts have been serious? You haven't actually explained why you think people have a human right to not be offended nor given any arguments in favour of European hate speech laws, just flashed your legal credentials (which are wholly irrelevant to the discussion) and proceeded to explain that the rules are the rules and therefore fuck you.

>>67861482
what do you think about geert? i've only seen one video of him, it was of him giving a speech in a court room where he was on trial for something I think. he seemed like a pretty good guy, I agreed with most of what he said anyway (it was subtitled). do you think he'd be good for your country? is he actually a racist or is that the liberal media going overboard like usual?

Something technical you should keep in mind, the government doesn't currently have the infrastructure to save everything that goes through, let alone analyze it.
This will probably operate like phonecall recording.
Even if they go to ISPs it's impossible to get more than metadata centrally due to the large ammounts of it.
They will know which sites you visit, but not much more unless they target you.

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you're an idiot if you think a man in an office is going to scroll though everyone's internet history individually every day. All of the data is stored, and 99% of the data will not be requested by the govt. If Abdul-Quawani-al-Aziz has come back from a "holiday", in Syria, then the govt will monitor him to make sure he hasn't been browsing Islamist sites. I can imagine a nasty "hate tweet" to a muslim-feminist MP is then traced back to an individual, and his history is brought up to show that he is a hateful bigot with pictures of the evil green frog of holocausts saved on his PC. But that is the level of farce.

There really is nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide. The problem is that the nation's weapons are being used on its most patriotic defenders!

>>67861654
Fine. I don't think people should have the right not to be offended. I believe developing resilience to offending opinions is part of being an adult. I do believe, however, that there are limits to how offending opinions can be. If someone were to call me everyday and tell me I'm a fat fuck that should kill myself, that would definitely constitute as a violation of mental integrity after a few months. The institutional racism against blacks since the late 19th century is another example of violation of mental integrity.

>>67861663
He's charismatic I'll give him that. But he's a typical populist who provides only problems and no solutions. His speeches are devoid of facts and logic and only appeal to the feelings of the relatively uneducated of this country. Like Trump but less fanatic I guess. I don't believe he'd be a good leader but I do think it's important that we have parties like his to keep the established majority of the parliament at bay.

I'm not sure if he's a genuine racist, most of his political agenda revolves around the removal of muslims, moroccans, turks and all that shit. He's currently being tried for some things he said a few years ago that were on the edge of inciting violence.

>>67861837
>Fine. I don't think people should have the right not to be offended. I believe developing resilience to offending opinions is part of being an adult.
Why did we even have this argument then?

>The institutional racism against blacks since the late 19th century is another example of violation of mental integrity.
That violated human rights under the basis that a group of people were being treated differently under the eyes of the law on the basis of their skin colour. Saying that it violated it under the basis of damage to "mental integrity" is like saying 9/11 was a tragedy because it violated aviation laws.

>>67860926
This

>>67860740

Speaking of this shit, wasn't there something recent, like this summer, happening in Nethelands about it? People were posting shit about the immigrants from Africa and the Middle East over on Twitter, and the police would go up to their homes and talk them into taking it down.

>>67861975
lel. I was talking about how hate speech can be a breach of freedom of expression at times, that was it. You didn't think I was some kind of liberal nutcase, did you?

Anyway, there are a lot more examples of slander that don't deserve to defended under freedom of speech. Like campaigns against celebrities or tabloids advertising false information about people. I think that goes too far.

>>67862066
>>67861837
Geert Wilders held a speech like a year ago and he ended it with: "Do you want more or fewer morrocans in this country?" and the crowded responded by chanting "fewer fewer fewer". And he's currently being tried for that.

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>>67862141

>And he's currently being tried for that.

What the fuck are the charges? Asking questions?

>>67862172
It was borderline inciting violence the way it went down though. There's no verdict yet, but Geert is using the trial to further his political agenda like always.

Here's the vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz5_L3NvQzw

>>67862069
Libel laws in the UK are incredibly restrictive and are abused to hell, to the point where the US had to pass a law making cases here unenforceable there.

I think the mainstream media is what needs to be made more accountable, it shouldn't be legal to make a concerted effort to brand people as racists, communists, whatever in a blatant attempt to affect the voting public. Politicians need to be branded as what they self-identify as, the media should not be in the business of labelling them.

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Jesus fucking christ

>>67862237
the dude in the background is dutch ? i thought you were supposed to be all tall and blonde
could easily be a frenchman or italian or something
dutch people confirmed for frauds

>>67862282
That I agree with. Common law is a backwards system anyway to be desu.

>>67862330
The last time I was in France I saw only brown people. It's time to stop posting Jean-Jacques

>>67861747
>There really is nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide
neck yourself

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Cant wait for the day when it becomes illegal to access 4chins from the UK
The quality of all boards and threads will go up tenfold

"Wilders" is pronounced "Vilders" right?

>>67862384
why, you think it was better when i went to amsterdam ?? shut up, do like jesus said and look at yourself before criticizing

>>67862515
Nope, just wilders

>>67862539
When I look at myself I see a handsome dark-blonde boy with green eyes, anon.

>>67862505
this is unironically the one thing that would make me emigrate

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Man if that ever happened here I would definitely get a government job in the appropriate agency and snoop like a mad dog

>>67862583
and surrounded by niggers

>>67861535

You must be a newfag here in 4chan, Jan Henk lad.

Just tell the toothies that they're gonna get banged by their own gov for chatting shit over the internet, and then they'll have to discuss the state of legal and human rights affaires with Roustam, Ahmed and Jamal in the prison showers.

>>67862607
Nope, not even close.

>>67862594
this picture reminds me of how fucked up child actors turn out
stay safe minitrump

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>>67862750
stay safe autismtrump you mean

>>67862593
4chan is not even good anymore
If you were not around from 2006-2010 you missed the best this place had to offer

>>67862878
wronk!

pepe and kek have brought back the platinum age of 4chan

>>67862960
t. underage

>>67863048
um that was highly rude

>>67861747
>Thereis nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide

Innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent you fuckin dustbucket

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>>67862960
>pepe and kek have brought back the platinum age of 4chan

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>>67863105
DONT POKE FUN AT MY POST MONKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>67863089
>Innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent
We don't hear that enough these days

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>>67862878
I've been here for 8 years, this place never had anything to offer in the first place

but everybody's here forever

I don't even get angry about newfags anymore, I just pity them

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>>67860819
>He means that saying that niggers should die and immigrants should be nuked
>Neither of those are facts

Maybe according to you...

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>>67860740

This is why Europe is dying.

>>67863275
cool pic mind if i save it

>>67863192
Bientôt, ce sera meilleur

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>>67863293

You're FREE to do so

>>67863383
>le europe is LITERALLY 3rd world and on the brink of collapse meme

t. paul joseph watson

>>67863568
It's ridiculous to say that the situation here isn't incredibly volatile.

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>mfw ****** will be blacklisted in the UK

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>>67865036
>one cannot even criticize the negative effects of ****** before the Mets kick your door in and seize your computer
>people don't have nothing to discuss anymore with ****** banned
>people lose their will to live and drown themselves in the rivers of England
>Thames becomes like the Ganges
>Sadiq Khan opens the first designated defecation street
>Downing Street
>Tony Blair takes Britain to the IU, Indian Union
>New London becomes the capital of the Great Brindia
>year 2050
>it's still not a superpower