>rising sea levels >mass extinction of fish vital to t

/pol/ denies it being caused by mankind.
For some reason they then go on and ignore that even if it's not man made, the climate is changing anyways, and that could fuck up a lot of countries and societies

Can't wait till Miami is underwater

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>the effects of climate change will be equally distributed across the globe
nah dude

>>67839984
And ? They are right, in hard times there is a need for strong community.

>the climate is changing anyways
It's cyclical.

>Can't wait till Miami is underwater
Icebergs melting won't effect sea levels. Ice floats because it's less dense than water.
It displaces the same volume of water that it would occupy if melted. Buoyancy, and all that.

Most of the ice caps are ice shelf or icebergs (in/above water, not land).
Parts of the ice caps will raise the sea level as they melt. But only slightly.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

There's a special brand of idiot that buys a home in the area a dam floods very few decades.
They usually complain when their house gets flooded, despite deliberately buying a cheap house in a flood zone.
Never mind that the dam is the only reason the whole region doesn't flood every few years.

Complaining about the ice caps (or the glaciers) melting is silly.
Of course that shit is melting, the last glacial period ended like, 12,000 years ago.
The only reason that ice is still around is that there was *so much* of it.

>>67840918
>Most of the ice caps are ice shelf or icebergs (in/above water, not land).
Not really. The antartica is literally a continent sized ice block above sea level. And it isn't just the ice melting that worry scientists, but the salinity change that affects sea currents, and the liberation of methane into the atmosphere.

>>67841301
Antartica is slightly larger than Australia, but that's including the enormous ice shelfs.
>but the salinity change that affects sea currents, and the liberation of methane into the atmosphere.
This I'll give you, but there's nothing we can do about that. You can displace heat, you can't destroy it.
That shit as going to happen either way. Life will adapt, as it has many times.

>>67839984
we're already 85% wasteland, I can't imagine how much worse it can get

>>67841744
Let me remind you that 90% of every major extinction event was caused by drastic climate change.
And while humanity can adapt, a rise on sea levels by a few meters will fuck up any coastal society, and something like what? 30% of humans live near the sea? Either they die, and that's a huge fucking tragedy, or they don't die and have to be relocated. As in literal billions of climate refugees. Europe appears to be crumbling with a few millions already.
I think an island in the middle of the indian ocean is set to relocate all of its inhabitants in a few years.

>>67841933
Nothing we can do will stop that. Don't move to a disaster areas.

The Netherlands will just teraform its land.

We already have glass cities underneath agriculture is done.

>>67842301
And on our Islands people already drink sea water.

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>>67841933
>Europe appears to be crumbling with a few millions already

Good, all according to plan

>>67842230
Well, it's predicted that some areas will receive less rain, and the little water there is there will evaporate faster, so hidro plants working there will stop doing their thing or produce just a fraction of their installed capability. Same thing for agriculture.
So, governments can start building stuff like nuclear powerplants and fund research on cheaper desalinization methods to begin with.
We might not be able to stop climate change, but we still could start to get ready to manage some of its effects

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And we already build houses on water.

>nature is still in control of his country
lmao

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Good.
The rationing and strong dependence on hightech irrigation and ultra compact autarc food and goodsproduction will ake our evil U/pol/tia were thousands of xenophobic, isolationist arcology states hold their population under absolute control and culturally varying eugenic standarts.
muahahahahaha

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>>67842605
In India, Chili, Pakistan, Vietnam and Venezuela they use 2000 liters of water, to grow which we only need 7 liters of water for.

>>67842724
Cant you stackem even higher?

>>67842754
They are working on that. In the future they want to build flats with fully automated agriculture in them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAOVuSuQ4Ro

>>67840918
>It's cyclical.

Yee and the rain follows the plow.

There's several special brands of idiots and climate deniers are one of them.

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>third world will starve
>the netherlands will feed europe
10/10

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If Africans got off their lazy butts they would survive as well.

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>his water levels aren't entirely artificially controlled

>>67843203
even the waves look like a straight line, what the fuck

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nice dyke ayy

>>67843452
Zoomed out on a calm day.

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>>67843710
No, we sealed off the sea. So it's always a calm day there. Pic related, the "seal off dyke".

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>>67843776

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Did you know Amsterdam is build on millions of poles?

The first layer of sand in a lot of areas is 12 meters below the surface.

>>67842842
What do you expect from them when they still stuck with imperial measures

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>>67843959
People who arrive at Amsterdam central station often don't even realize it.. After all, you're walking on a street, right?

>>67842824
TIL hydroponics is autonomous sorcery

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Wait a minute, you don't have green houses on water in your capital city?

>>67842605
what is this??? greenhouses?

>>67844386
Our capital city is a ghetto in a swamp.
The only people who live their work in hotels.

>>67844386
NL truly superior. also, has qt tall guys

>>67839984
Trump supporter here.
I don't support his denial of climate change.

>Dude just accept your genocide you have other problems lmao

>>67844417
Yeah. It's warmed by the exhaust fumes of the Rotterdam harbor.

>>67843203
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>>67844540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7xxJo6drps

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>>67844540
It's the largest artificial Island in the world.

>>67844634
is there a good book or page that goes hrough most of these dutch engineering works and the reasoning behind?

>>67844460
This is true. Like the computer tech boom, the growth of renewables won't be thwarted much by a distracted populist predsident.

The really big problem OP and others ignore is scarcity of rare earth minerals for batteries and new tech.

Also isn't election shitposting against the rules?

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>>67844714
Wikipedia. It goes back a long time. Even the Romans laughed at us for living in an area that always flooded.

>>>67844747 the growth of renewables
No amount of research will ever make that not awful.
It baffles me that we aren't funding Thorium reactors.

>>67844819
Soon European cars will drive on water thanks to Dutch engineering.

http://www.shell.com/media/news-and-media-releases/2015/shell-to-install-nationwide-network-hydrogen-vehicle-fuelling-pumps-germany.html

Forget the Jews, are the Dutch the dark force behind global warming?

>>67844878
That's not "running on water" that's "running on hydrogen". You use energy from something else to make the hydrogen.
Essentially, you're just converting the energy storage. And there's some inefficiency in the conversion.

Way less than that ethanol bullshit, but at the end of the day the power is coming from somewhere else.

>>67844878
you do realise hydrogen is a meme right?

>>67845039
It's not a meme, because you can easily store it and just fill it up, unlike conventional electric cars.

>>67845038
You can convert solar, wind and tidal energy into hydrogen.

>>67839984
The alt right is a scattered internet youth movement about opposing multiculturalism, mass immigration and basically just want idealistic demographic and cultural revival. They're not anti environmental. Alt right is like .9% of the US so far and trump denounced us completely.

The anti environmental groups are Neoliberal capitalists, mainstream nonracist conservatives and libertarians. That's 98% of republicans and have billions in funds

Also lel at sudacas getting triggered at first workers again

Hopefully it destroys humanity. Normies deserve it.

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>>67845039
>Belgium
It's obvious where Belgium ends and the future begins.

>>67845292
Driving from Belgium into the Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20FTPPJiOUg

>>67844503
>genocide
There's that word again.

>>67845082
>you can easily store it

>wait for a week and your tank is empty
>unless you liquify it
>which involves temperatures of 20° above absolute zero
>in the end you still end up with an empty tank

>just fill it up, unlike conventional electric cars
this is basically the only advantage it has over battery powered cars, that and the weight+range.

>You can convert solar, wind and tidal energy into hydrogen.
lmao
>instead of using electric power for the power grid, let's turn electricity into hydrogen back into electric power again
guess which process has by far the lowest rendement and is also extremely expensive, needing rare metals like platina and shit for the fuel cells

>>67839984
Didn't Trump changed his mind on climate change?

>>67845082
>You can convert solar, wind and tidal energy into hydrogen.
You can convert anything into anything. Dank meme list tho.

Solar panels are a laundry list of bullshit. Total garbage option.
Concentrated solar power is p-OK though. But it needs a dedicated facility.
Can't just plaster it everywhere there's space.
Speaking of space, both use oodles of space for near worthless output.

Wind isn't cost effective.
Don't really have anything else to say about that. Subsidize it and it's passable.
Subsidizing is a good idea when you aren't force/defend trade though.

Tidal is actually a great idea.
It's a shame they have such tight geological constraints.
There's what, 20 place we know of that they can work in?

>Subsidizing is
*isn't

>>67844503
The problems of the earth dying? I think that's more important than your little retarded beliefs

It's common for the anglo to be a selfish and arrogant piece of shit, no suprises

>>67845473
We're actually one of the worst European countries when it comes to green energy due to our oil refineries and the fact that we have the biggest natural gas field in Europe.

But our energy companies are planning to make Islands with windmills offshore on Doggersbank.

>>67845431
We're still doing it. Everyone always cries things are impossible. But we constantly prove everyone wrong.

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>>67845404

I'll defer to the Geneva convention.
http://www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html

Article 2, points A through D all apply to mass immigration and top-down imposed feminism. Largely wrought by jews, though if you don't already accept that fact I doubt you'll be receptive to looking up what ethnicity controls virtually all institutions in the west aswell as lobbies disproportionately for homosexuality, "female enfranchisement" and a host of other divisive -isms that serve to bring down Europid birthrates.

>>67845617
by using processes that even a child can see it's inefficient? But hey, at least your car itself isn't emitting anything, and maybe politicians are dumb enough to subsidise your bullshit.

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Regardless of the manmade-ness of global warming, in the longterm we're looking at resource depletion, drout, plastic/chemical/medicinal contamination, superresistant viruses etc.

We can deal with our environmental problems once we have cohesive societies capable of something other than identitypolitics for the only race that is actually both able and willing to solve said environmental problems.

The coming century will be extremely bloody and rough. As someone said, environmental refugees will make this flood of fake Syrians look like nothing. If we don't harden up and enforce our borders with violence we WILL be flooded by brown scum who WILL tear our societies apart. There will be every kind of scarcity you can imagine. The only surplus we'll have will be in incapable mudpeople. Exterminationism on a global scale will become more and more appealing and eventually people may have to look the other way as some Dark Knight We Need But Don't Deserve launches (preferably genotype-specific) bioweapons on the seething hotbeds of human-shaped biological waste sometimes called shitskins.

You can't set aside ethnic tribalism and democratically reach some insanely strict environmental goals, let alone in the short time we have. Culling is the only option and I suggest we start with the verifiably useless. Gradual steps like forcing feminism on the third world is like trying to run away from a bullet. To be effective, any "green movement" needs to be ruthlessly authoritarian and to uncompromisingly 100% follow where the science leads it, unobstructed by emotion, human rights or the popular will.

Also I would rather leave behind a scorched, dead planet than hand over the Earth to swarthy hordes of people incapable of stewarding it anyway.

Yes, servility to the economy needs to go. If we must kill off 99% of humans and have the rest live in mud huts while we scramble to build spaceships capable of colonizing another planet, so be it.

>>67845647
>Killing members of the group;
Immigration doesn't kill the natives. Immigrants who commit murder are either deported or imprisoned.
>Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
If immigration causes you mental harm, you have a problem.
>Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Nobody is being physically destroyed by immigration, and it's not deliberate.
>Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Homosexuality is not being forced onto people to prevent them from having kids. People can't choose to be homosexual, they're born that way. And women choosing of their own free will to not have kids is not genocide. You just sound salty because girls don't like you.

>>67845774
>Homosexuality is not being forced onto people

He is a swede man, its different in the north for them.

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>>67845712
They say Shell is owned by our monarchy for 25%.
So if our government wants energy independence they can supply it. Through hydrogen.

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>>67845828
fffffffffffffffffffffffff

I always thought that should you ever elect a megalomaniac he would try to uplift the doggerbank, but you actually wanna do it now already!

>the island nations near us will be flooded and we'll be forced to take in the brown refugees
ah yes

>>67845894
You will get an inland sea tho.

>>67841301
Dude. You have ice blocks the size of Texas breaking off from Antarctica regularly. Look at a satellite image of the continent 35 years ago and compare it to now. If that doesn't strike you as some serious shit, then I don't know what will.

Why does the far right always come off like a death cult? They're always predicting massive amounts of violence is just over the horizon, and they get a fucking hard on for it.

>>67845934
yeah hopefully it'll drown some abos haha

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>>67845828
>(((they)))
i'm just trying to point out that you have to be sceptical with meme-words like hydrogen and """green""" energy in general. I've already mentioned why it probably isn't such a good idea or miracle solution unless you have shares in the Shell company
anyway i'm going to bed now

>>67845975
Survival of the fittest. To them the mere existence of other races is a mortal threat to your own race.
And your own well-being is less important, as you are merely a branch of the genetic tree that is your race.

>>67845975
>death cult

Nah, not that.
Its just that they see war/conflict as the easiest vehicle to legitimize rash and sudden change regardless of the ethic implications.

>>67846000
Shell was born after a merger between the Dutch petroleum company, mostly owned by our monarchy, and a British oil company. It's only a question if they sold off their stocks over the years or not.

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>>67845774
"muh free will"
People are heavily influenced by societal norms and if we'd stuck to traditional social mores we wouldn't have unsustainable birthrates because women would fulfill their actual biological imperative rather than stock shelves at departmentstores for minimum wage. Fags would also stay in the closet and form families instead. Abortion, contraception speak for themselves.

Look at rates of violence and murder and crossreference that with graphs on immigration patterns to any western nation of your choice. If murders are disproportionately committed by immigrants and you keep adding more immigrants, the results should be pretty obvious but more importantly, the results are virtually statistically inevitable. Let's not even get into miscegenation because you'll suddenly stop pretending there exist distinct peoples/ethnicities and a kid is just a kid even though it's clearly of different ethnicity than the white parent thus making it applicable to point D.

Mental harm goes under any crime committed against a native by an invader. Perhaps after hundreds of years, Americans actually enjoy nigger gangrape and go through it unscathed though, I dunno.

Who are you to say this is not calculated? It's quite clearly an outgroup bringing most of this into being while their own ethnostate does the opposite.

Anyway you are probably a shitskin yourself so you'll never see reason and will have to be liquidated :^)

>>67846016
>the mere existence of other races is a mortal threat to your own race.

Yep, because the rest of the world operates on tribalism even if you don't, white man. Look at shitskin sentiment on immigration and tell me otherwise. Subconsciously they know they're invading and push their tribe's interests.

>>67846111
The monarchy originally owned 40% of Shell. So it's not unreasonable to think they still own a large part.

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>>67846221
So the core of your reasoning seems to be that you can't accept this something white people are doing on their own, that the "destruction" of the white race has to be deliberately orchestrated by an outside group. Well if that's true, white people deserve to be genocided for being weak. All you do is complain about your "genocide" on the internet.

>>67846294
I honestly think if more migrants move here it could lead to violence. The map of Europe clearly shows what Europeans think about multiculturalism. And the Muslims that live here are testing the patience of Europeans. But once a certain amount of Muslims live in Europe they will seek the conflict out themselves and i'm pretty sure Europeans will respond in kind.

>>67846374
Which is unfortunate for the other minorities who do have good intentions. Because they will get caught up in it as well.

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>>67845934
The only things that live there are 12 trailer trucks.
The only things built there are like, maybe 4 roads.

It's an uninhabited wasteland.

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>>67846294

Knowing is half the battle. Informing people of creeping demographic displacement and jewish involvement is resistance, just like fending off an invading army is resistance to another kind of genocide. Why do you deem only one form of resistance invalid and say that those afflicted should just keel over? Once enough people are willing to listen we'll see if it comes to blows or if boxcars and deportation squads will suffice.
If we're going with survival of the fittest, which I agree with, then why do you deny whites the right to inform their own? Surely you should think it's more admirable to inform ourselves so we can go about racial separatism peacefully rather than resort to racewar?
Though I am pretty sure it's inevitable that racial tension and polarization will reach the point where civilwars will have to be fought.

Do you also apply survival of the fittest to slavery, colonialism, settling the Americas, the crusades etc? You must think the brown people who suffered all that had it coming? Gee, look at this fascist skin-hater.

>>67846374

The other minorities are outgroups who largely ride on the coattails of Europe anyway. They're just not (as) intrusive when in smaller numbers.
And it won't even require more immigration, it'll just take the islamic radicalization of the youth and deteriorating racerelations, both of which are ever ongoing.
Even if we closed the borders, their birthrates will make sure we're slowly displaced if we look at demographic projections. Policies aimed at increasing the birthrate of native populations would be decried as racist by the usual hooknosed suspects. Not that we'd ever have a chance at rivalling r-selected shitskins in babymaking anyway. And why should we be forced to in our own nations? I'd prefer we socially engineer our birthrates roughly in accord with projected future labor needs, as automation will decimate the need for labor. When we hit the automation ceiling we should aim for replacement births.

>>67846878
I'm not denying you the right to do anything. In just calling you an idiot. That's pretty SJW tier if you think that's trampling on your rights.

>>67846878
>Even if we closed the borders, their birthrates will make sure we're slowly displaced if we look at demographic projections.
That's actually not the case here. Their population stabilises from the third generation and on.
The Dutch population decreases but the migrant population would not increase.
So if you close the borders chances are the migrants delute into the local population that (still) outnumbers them.

Indonesians here dont even look like Asians anymore.

>>67847072
You have blue eyed and blonde haired """"Indonesians""" here with black haired and brown skinned sisters. Its really odd because you see families that look like they arent even from the same race.

>>67846953

You're changing the subject. You deem it invalid to inform others of their people's plight which obviously needs to be the first step to counteraction. Without enough people knowing we wouldn't have the people necessary to forcibly change things anyway. You hold white people to a higher standard because you know deep down that that's required to achieve some kind of parity between the races. Admit that if Africa can't resist colonists they deserve working the diamondmines and being raped by pith-helmet wearing britbongs.

>>67847072

The Euro nations that are worst off have like 15-25% shitskins at this point, probably more if you count illegals. Britain, Sweden, France, Germany. When you say stabilises, do you mean it reaches the average native Dutch birthrate? And that's three generations down the line so they're still gonna be growing for over half a century into the future. Even if they stabilize, do you even want them there? Do you believe in multiculturalism, does it make your country stronger, does it make your people happier? Crimerates, welfare-recipients? Is it worth the rape of tens of thousands of Dutch girls? Future labor needs? Dare I say racial purity? Can you absorb 20% arab and negroid DNA and call yourself dutch or swedish or german? This is delusion and pathological altruism - being governed by absolute suicidal selflessness or worse, the simple fear of being branded a racist.

I can't even imagine the amount of suffering and internal division nations would have to undergo before everyone is properly merged into a browner race of lower IQ and a predisposition to lactose intolerance. Most countries wouldn't survive that internal clash.

>>67847551
I'm "changing the subject" because I'm a dumb phoneposter who doesn't have time to reply to your walls of text.
>Admit that if Africa can't resist colonists they deserve working the diamondmines and being raped by pith-helmet wearing britbongs.
And Geeks deserve to be enslaved by Turks? And Iberians by North Africans? And Russians by Mongols? Anyways, I think colonialism is wrong because I have empathy. I was taught the golden rule growing up, don't do to others what you don't want done to you.

>>67847551
I meant their fertility rate is such that they simply sustain themselves without increasing or decreasing in numbers. And we have 12% non-western migrants.

I dont mind the prople from the colonies that much. But I dont see the added value either as most are simply a burden. And importing Muslims or people from Africa makes zero sense from any perspective.

>>67847801
Most of those 12% currently are second and third generation.

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>>67847801

Replacement level birthrate is about 2.1 per woman. As I recall, no native population of any western nation has that. IIRC, France comes close at 1.9. So even at replacement, if you extrapolate far enough, Dutch are probably set to be a minority eventually anyway. But I don't need to belabor this point, we're clearly basically in agreement.

>>67847705

Then you must think the colonization going on in Europe right now is wrong too because empathy and golden rule (I doubt arabs, nigs or kikes want to be displaced). Cool. Could've said so from the start :^)

>>67848129
>Colonization by force is the same thing as legal immigration in a democratic country

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>>67839984
>global warming
>real

You actually believe that?

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>>67848267
>global warming
>not real

>>67839984

Trump will only last four years, and served to cockblock Clinton from getting into the White House.

Clinton would have caused World War III with Russia thanks to her brilliant no-fly zone plans and her astonishing ability to scapegoat Putin and Russia for everything wrong in the world in an attempt to deflect from problems on the home front.

What is worse for the planet, four years of Donald Trump not giving a fuck about the environment in a last desperate bid to return the country to nationalism and self-reliance, or the nuclear fallout covering a third of the planet because Clinton and Putin decided to get into a nuke fight when things got desperate for one side or the other?

>>67841933
>Either they die, and that's a huge fucking tragedy, or they don't die and have to be relocated. As in literal billions of climate refugees

You're acting like everything is going to be peachy keen, and then suddenly in the blink of an eye the environment is going to stop, say "NAH, FUCK THESE HUMANS", and just start flooding everything.
It'll be a gradual change.
Nobody is going to drown because the sea level rose another half an inch over the course of three years.

>>67848168
>legal immigration
ah yes nothing says legal like millions of 3rd worlders throwing away their passports and flooding over the borders

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>>67848168

>The media doesn't set the agenda and browbeat everyone who steps out of the kosher line with orwellian invectives
>The media and cops don't cover up immigrant crime
>The government doesn't obfuscate the cost of immigration
>Democracy is responsive
>Mob rule informed by a hostile media leads to good decisions
>Democracy allows the population to finetune policy
>The 51% required to not be filibustered will vote for a one-issue party that's lambasted and lied about daily in the media

I eschew democracy anyway. But if it was put to a direct vote the borders would probably be closed here. In May 2015, a poll showed 58% of Swedes wanted to cut immigration. That was before the welfare-migrant shitstorm and what's been termed "The rape-summer of 2016".
The distinction you make is only the superficial one of "consent is given" and the barely-plausible deniability that we're not talking about an unarmed invasion powered by manipulation.
And as the guy said, it's not exactly legal since they come from Africa and ditch their passports. Jetblack niggers pretending to be Syrians. Also, refugees are supposed to settle in the first peaceful country according to international law.

>>67848750
That's the European Union's fault for making it legal.
There is a reason the Britbong said "fuck that noise".

>>67849195
>Muh Jews
That picture was debunked. Unfortunately I didn't save the pasta debunking it, so you'll just have to take it on faith or not.

But anyways, you have a free press. There are plenty of media outlets that align with your world view, some of them have millions of followers like Alex Jones. Not everything is a top down conspiracy. You yourself are not being censored right now, yet you claim to suffer from Orwellian (Orwell was a leftist btw) oppression.

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>>67849357
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>>67849302
thats like saying america made illegal immigration legal because million of spics are flooding the borders

also sweden doesn't have free press

>thats like saying america made illegal immigration legal because million of spics are flooding the borders
Obama actually tried to do that at one point.

>>67849475
Obama has deported ~3 million illegals though.

>>67849494
Deportation statistic is overblown though. It's inflated in that every time they turn somebody away from the border it counts as a deportation.

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>>67849537
Still, doesn't exactly fit the narrative that Obama is for open borders.

>>67849405
Sweden's press is free enough that our Swedish friend here is allowed to browse /pol/, info wars, the daily stormer, Breitbart, etc etc to form these views in the first place. All I'm saying, is that he didn't form these views in a vacuum.

>>67849585
>Still, doesn't exactly fit the narrative that Obama is for open borders.
Nah, that's Clinton. But Obama is all about naturalizing existing illegal immigrants.

>>67849585
>/pol/
>form these views
/pol/ have never had an original thought in their entire lives, which is how they can steal the concept of "redpilling" from the class consciousness of the Marxists they love so dear

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>>67839984
>its just a natural phase guys
>no, im not shilling for the oil companies a promise :^)

>>67840918
>It's cyclical.

autism, get back to /pol/

>>67849357

The term Orwellian has nothing to do with his leanings.
Jews see themselves as an outgroup and their history centers around "undeserved" pogroms so of course they have an axe to grind. They're disproportionately represented in the politics of division and degeneracy. The vast majority of swedish MSM is jew-owned while they make up a ridiculously small portion of the population.
Sweden subsidizes select media outlets with financial aid. The largest (and kike-owned) ones most of all. I have no idea how they justify this while public service has to be paid for voluntarily on an individual basis (not via tax) or it could "lead to bias". Public service is insanely onesided and anti-swedish aswell though.
Freedom of the press counts for shit anyway since the state is not what's exerting power on the press but vice versa. Our "free press" has been busted with covering up immigrant crimes, as has our policeforce.
Freedom of the internet and freedom of the press is not the same thing but what matters isn't what's possible if you have the ability and spare time to seek out information, what matters what the average fucking joe is submerged in from dawn til dusk. And that's EXTREMELY onesided info.
We also don't have freedom of speech. If you publish "Death to ZOG" or "neger" (negro) on your website you can be jailed for months under hatespeech laws.

>>67849704

Redpill comes from The Matrix. Is The Matrix based on Marx?
Are you denying that the media has a slant, that the climate brought about by the media's (USA included) politically correct hysteria doesn't shape public discourse? Do you actually believe someone can come from nowhere with untouchable opinions and compete with the entrenched newspapers that have existed for a century? Or TV stations that are decades old. Two media corporations hold the vast majority of swedish papers, local papers and tv channels.

The proof is in the pudding. The only kosher things to say in public are anti-white male.

>>67849964
>Redpill comes from The Matrix.
The expression, yes. The concept is older than that.

>>67849964
We're just going to have to agree to disagree. I see no proof to any of your muh jooz claims. And I don't have the time to refute them either. Goodnight/morning/whatever it is in Sweden.

If you haven't seen the slant and doublestandard employed during Trump's campaign there is no hope for you.
If you can't see that Israel's ethnocentrism is NEVER brought up there is no hope for you.
Same with the doublestandard about needing to hire less white males while some sectors are virtually dominated by jews. But they slip between "we white males need to repent for our wicked ways" and "we jews are oppressed" as it suits them.

I don't chalk everything up to kikes, but once you start noticing their involvement in everything triggering, it's impossible to notice that they're certainly not proportionally represented.

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>year of our Lord, Jesus Christ, two thousand and sixteen
>believing in """"""""""climate science""""""""""

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>>67839984
We definitely should act on it and shift to renewables and nuclear and I strongly support that however I also strongly doubt we are the main propagators of it. We definitely contribute a significant amount but the earth naturally warms and cools anyway, so I say that the temperature rising is mostly out of our control but we definitely don't help.

If climate scientists would actually be fucking useful and differentiate between ambient warming and human caused CO2 and Methane and other greenhouse gases caused warming then both sides could have serious discussion but right now its just a shitfest because these scientists don't do their jobs.

>>67840465
Except this "strong" community will make things harder for themselves.

I'm ok with global warming.

>>67839984
I own a house with arable land, and it's in a forest. Why should I care about a bunch of 3rd world beach monkeys drowning?

>>67840200
>/pol/ denies it being caused by mankind.
because for the most part, it isn't, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.
We're just going to have to adapt, like our ancestors always have.

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interesting graph showing the amount of sea ice, red line is 2016

>>67853023
What proposition is this premise supposed to imply?

>>67852222
Found the poltard.

JESUS CHRISTMAS TALK ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING RETARDS.

>>67853680
that the total area of sea ice should've been quite a bit higher than it is, and that's pretty bad. Idk why though

>>67854298
>that the total area of sea ice should've been quite a bit higher than it is
Maybe the measurements were taken differently? Or maybe the ice being low enough sped up the dissipation of the ice?
Maybe it's still following the normal trend, but slower, and will spike up in a few months. Plenty of other factors could be at play here.
You can say "I would expect there to be more ice" or "it's likely that their should be more ice", but you can't say "there should be more ice" just from that.