If this part of the country vanished tomorrow, literally no one

no one really cares about US states

Why don't Americans post about America to other people who will only understand if they were American in the general that's dedicated to America (and our land neighbours)?

Fuck off cunt

>>67783211
Montana is the home town of Ben Garrison
>how dare you

File: Confused black man.jpg (20KB, 505x431px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 505x431px

>>67786803
>Montana is the home town

>>67783211
Where would you put all of your moo moos and cash crops, though?

>>67786959
In the South and the Midwest where they've always been. The Great Plains grow grains

File: what-are-birds.gif (1003KB, 250x251px) Image search: [Google]

1003KB, 250x251px

>>67783211
What happens there?

>>67783211
pretty sure people would notice if we ran out of corn, wheat, and the price of pork shot up.

>>67787010
Libertarians and farmers

Except Idaho, Montana and Utah are some of the basedest, most white, most conservative and Christian states of them all with great nature and wildlife you stupid fucking nigger

If you got rid of the entire east coast literally nothing of true value would be lost

America would be immeasurably better if you killed everyone on the coastal areas

>>67783211
>getting rid of states that supply most of the county with food
wew lad, plus I live there

File: nothing of value was lost.jpg (417KB, 1152x888px) Image search: [Google]

417KB, 1152x888px

>>67787074
>>67787160

>>67787074
>>67787160
Wish the sea ice was melting faster, world would be a better place with all these cunts hundreds of feet underwater.

>>67787260
They'd just move inland and start shitting up the interior

>>67787247
It's true, name a single city on the coast that isn't either full of niggers or inhabited by smelly left wing hipsters

File: cuckhunter.jpg (653KB, 1536x2048px) Image search: [Google]

653KB, 1536x2048px

>>67787382
>these posts

>>67783211
Still butthurt about the election OP?

>>67787001
Not enough space for all the cows in the midwest and south. At least if you want cows that are not caged in small pens that cant move. Cows out here get 100s of acres and eat grass, not corn.

File: hillary-sick-400x267.jpg (15KB, 400x267px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 400x267px

>>67787548
Say it with me cucklet: Madame President!

>>67787561
What did OP's post have to do with the election?

File: 1478890098343-1.png (74KB, 219x264px) Image search: [Google]

74KB, 219x264px

>>67787382
>he thinks that people actually live in cities on the east coast

it's not Australia where 90% of people live Sydney, Waga Waga, and Boopboopity Boo (or whatever the Abbos called them before colonization)

>>67787382
Galveston or Mobile maybe
>you are now aware that the largest city in Trump's America is fucking Phoenix

>>67787618
1/6th of the country lives on the East Coast

Why do liberals have such contempt for farmers

>>67787709
It's just banter desu. Why do conservatives have so much contempt for cities?

>>67787709
Because they're unironically the biggest welfare niggers in the country

Maybe if you're vegetarian

Share of U.S. receipts for Meat animals
>1. Nebraska 13.4%
>2. Iowa 12.0%
>4. Kansas 9.4%
>5. Oklahoma 4.8%
>9. South Dakota 3.1%
>13. Idaho 2.0%

>>67787603
All those states voted for trump. All those states combined have less people than New York but more electoral votes combined.

File: 1472833164291.jpg (66KB, 550x553px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 550x553px

>>67787670
>he thinks that people actually live in CITIES on the east coast


nice reading comprehension you dumb fuck

>>67787618
>NY
>Washington
>Miami
>Boston
>Baltimore
>Philadelphia
>Jacksonville

I have been to literally all of these cities (ok I drove through baltimore with my doors locked) and they are all fucking awful.

>>67787800
OK well we can still have inter state banter for non political reasons. Regardless of politics, those states are still irrelevant 99% of the time.

>>67787800
basically OP is a bitter nigger/spic who lives in some coastal ghetto and will never experience the true american frontier

>>67787818
>he thinks that the suburbs aren't liberal shitholes as well

>>67787848
Philadelphia is OK

File: file.png (65KB, 1513x983px) Image search: [Google]

65KB, 1513x983px

if this part of the country vanished tomorrow everyone would rejoice

File: California_is_White.jpg (94KB, 462x514px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 462x514px

>>67788070
>he wants to get rid of states that pay more to the federal government than they take

File: 1478583686107.jpg (157KB, 568x544px) Image search: [Google]

157KB, 568x544px

>>67788070
>Twitter: the state
Well, you aren't wrong

>>67788070
Northern California (the very north) is actually really nice though. Almost all white, republican voting, close to nature, decent weather and some really nice small towns.

>>67787010
nothing

>>67787247
Who going to pay for your gibs me dat without the decent parts of the country?

>>67788754
erm, without almost the entire nigger population and a lot of hispanics, the country will pay for itself very nicely

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

except when everyone started starving

>>67788754
>tell the farmers to fuck off and stop giving them subsidies
>they stop using Monsanto seed and start using diverse shit to lower the costs
>suddenly we have a balance in the budget and Monsanto is btfo for all eternity
Nuking the cities would kill 15 birds with one stone

File: 1478898049946.png (136KB, 959x593px) Image search: [Google]

136KB, 959x593px

>>67788856
>he doesn't know
Rural communities aren't practical anymore and without us they'd be an Africa tier nation.

>>67788921
Because there so many first world farming nations right?

>>67783211
I would notice. They're good people. Shame on you, OP.

>>67789086
>removing subsidies means that all other industry is destroyed
Nice strawman faggot

>>67789086
There'd be more if population density and the resulting sprawl didn't send land costs skyrocketing

>>67789086
Canada and Australia come to mind

>>67783211
you'd run out of corn syrup and all be dead within a month since you can't eat without it

>>67789197
Isn't most of Canada's populations near the great lakes?

>>67789137
You're the one that wanted to destroy every major city.

>>67789316
Yes, but most of our agriculture is in the praries.

>>67789361
There isn't a lot of manufacturing going on in our major cities

>>67789481
There'd no place to offload those goods without ports.........

>>67783259
this

>>67789550
The US controls the first and second largest commercially navigable river systems in the world, I think we can handle using a few small river ports when we have half the population we have now

File: c2330650-b3c7-0132-9a45-0e01949ad350.png (232KB, 740x407px) Image search: [Google]

232KB, 740x407px

>When Americans and anglos start to talk about how their are whitestest countries/counties in the world, as if it's some fucking trophy
You're white, we get it. Nothing to be proud or ashamed about.

>>67790011
>something that literally no one was talking about
Why are Euros so fucking obsessed

>>67790128
About half of the threads about whiteness, if not more, are done by burgers or Australians, and in this thread I only see a bit anglo circlejerk about which state is the whitestest.

>>67790330
>About half of the threads about whiteness, if not more, are done by burgers or Australians
No

>anglo circlejerking about why white, Republican states are better despite being shitholes
That's more accurate

>>67790330
Maine is the whitest U.S. state

File: East River.jpg (222KB, 668x1000px) Image search: [Google]

222KB, 668x1000px

>>67783211
>What a fucking waste of space
To you maybe, but it's nice out here

The word "Quaint" comes to mind

>>67787072
>Libertarians
Funny joke

>>67787709
Something something intolerant conservatives

>>67787780
"City is shitty"

>>67787786
>Liberals
>Hating welfare niggers
Heh

>>67790533
>>Liberals
>>Hating welfare niggers
These welfare niggers vote Republican

File: image.jpg (112KB, 850x600px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 850x600px

>>67790409

Yeah, fuck every peaceful, nice place that isn't corrupt, overcrowded and violent and shit
God I hate the literal teenagers that post here

File: heatmap.png (81KB, 500x542px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 500x542px

>>67790612
And of course there's no circle in Wyoming, there are no major cities here

File: Castle Trail.jpg (245KB, 1600x1200px) Image search: [Google]

245KB, 1600x1200px

>>67790609
That's why

It's not because they're welfare niggers, it's because they're red

>>67790664
Actually it can be kinda corrupt out here in "Who cares" land
But it isn't massive corruption, mostly just "Hey we need new roads, lets use my construction company instead of anyone else"

>>67790741
And good for them, because "major cities" are irredeemable garbage heaps. No human settlement of any kind should ever exceed 2 million people.

>>67790664
Those red states are the poorest of the country for a reason
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-kansas-hard-times-snap-20161121-story.html

Libertarians are genuises

>>67790612
What is this supposed to convey, that Democrat controlled cities are violent shitholes?

>>67790741
There are cities with much lower populations than Cheyenne that have much higher crime rates. It has nothing to do with the population size

>>67790870
>muh meme economics
They have all modern conveniences and are surrounded by beautiful nature, I really don't give a rat's arse if people living in rotting two room apartments in NYC are supposedly richer than them.

>>67790870
The reason is their economies are agricultural in a nation that imports agricultural products from across the globe

Though Kansas was a very funny experiment in Libertarian economics.

>>67783211
Still mad about the election?

File: contemplative.png (53KB, 256x256px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 256x256px

>>67790870
>Those red states are the poorest of the country for a reason
If wonder if that's because their economy is largely based on agriculture. Makes my noodle do a think

>>67790985
They have all those conveniences because they take more money from the federal government than they put in.

>>67791112
>all of this is done through welfare lmoa
Stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself

>>67790985
>Lives in a comfy 2-stories houses in Bumfuck, Oklahoma
>Shitty public ed
>Shitty public health
>Decide to bet it on the market because why not
>Suddenly 2008 crisis
>Evicted from your house

I was absolutely appealed when I learned that not a single state tried to stop the foreclosures and offered to buy off at least part of the houseowners debt.
In those states if you've got an accident in life you can and often will lose everything.

They are nice, the people are extremely friendly (talked with a few Americans from flyovers states during a trip), and the nature is gorgeous... but it's not the way I want to live.

>>67791107
>>67791013
Would have imagined farmers would favour a stronger government and rural regions grants.

File: lc-terry-Badlands--North.jpg (14KB, 432x324px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 432x324px

>>67787919
yeah I don't think I'm missing out on the land that god forgot
>>67791154
it's true though. all those nice roads and mobile health clinics and schools you insist on not teaching in are paid for by the same people you hurl slurs at.

>>67791242
Maybe they don't appreciate the tendency of the federal government to try to take their rights away

>>67791311
>schools you insist on not teaching in
Jesus Christ you're a faggot

>>67791356
and your use of insults instead of any actual citations backs me up.

>>67791356
>rights
They don't have a meme minority language to complain about, what the hell is their problem ?

>>67791421
>meme creationist school board decisions that in no way represent the states as a whole
Fuck off

>>67791460
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights
Take your pick

File: doing a think.png (181KB, 388x392px) Image search: [Google]

181KB, 388x392px

>>67791107
Hmmm...

File: Homes 08-09.png (161KB, 963x601px) Image search: [Google]

161KB, 963x601px

>>67791112
Believe it or not, not everyone in those states are farmers, and they don't all get subsidies for crops

Farmers pay for a lot, but hardly pay for everything

>>67791179
>In those states if you've got an accident in life you can and often will lose everything
That's health insurance, i.e. not something the government pays for

>not a single state tried to stop the foreclosures and offered to buy off at least part of the houseowners debt
Because not many people lost their homes in these parts

>>67791242
No
The reason is because the government in these parts rely a LOT on farmers and ranchers to pay for their shit

>>67791460
Second amendment repealers are annoying because hunting rodents, coyotes, or mountain lions which eat your shit gets infinitely harder

Their ability to protest about abuses by powerful local governments is eliminated by the repealing of the first amendment to protect ethnic minorities from their feelings

etc. etc.

>>67791602
>muh freedums

I don't see how a competent federal police/gendarmerie service, properly funded social security, properly funded education and nationalisation of basic necessities (water, electricity, fire dept, transports...) is against the bill of rights.

As for guns, I honestly think they should be treated as a privilege, not a "right". Who needs a militia anymore ?

>>67791860
And not all the federal money those states receives goes to farmers...

>>67791904
>I don't see how a competent federal police/gendarmerie service, properly funded social security, properly funded education and nationalisation of basic necessities (water, electricity, fire dept, transports...) is against the bill of rights.
Maybe because the national government is full of incompetent retards who couldn't make it in the private sector. Don't start this "But it works in Europe" shit when you post about >60% every fucking day, niggers won't pay into the system

File: 1479791743008.png (6KB, 420x510px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 420x510px

>>67787074

>it's a brit tells the American about his own nation episode

>basedest

back to /pol/ you cancerous faggot

>>67791860
Meh, it's probably cultural shock from an extremely centralised country and extremely decentralised one.

Burgers, please answer this honestly without insults. Do you feel the effects (good or bad) of the federal form of government in your daily lives ?

>>67792066
stop making stupid interstate "banter" threads on an international board then you dumb faggot

>>67792115

stop pretending that uneducated, poor, uninhabited, conservative territory is "basedest" because of skin color

actually why am i even responding to you, you dumb brit lmao. I only banter americans. Kill yourself.

>>67791179
>I was absolutely appealed when I learned that not a single state tried to stop the foreclosures and offered to buy off at least part of the houseowners debt.
That's not the government's job

>>67792062
it sounds like you're the only one who won't pay into the system though, since you're so anti-tax. also who had the genius idea that public sector employees should have success in the private sector? success in capitalism is built on labor exploitation, the whole point of a government is to create a safety net and effective services for their citizens.

>>67792062
It's crazy how different anglos in general and us frogs view the state. Ask any Frenchman if Healthcare/Fire/Prisons should be privatised, or for profit, I'm 90% sure they would never say yes.
I hate the EU for forcing this privatisation down our throats.

>60%
I'm not that kind of guy, I don't care about race. They are good and awful people of every ethnicity. You've never tried a state-owned approach, and (no offense) scream socialism at every attempt to do so.

>>67792232
>The government's job is not to ensure the well-being of all citizens, regardless of wealth
>The government's job is not to protect the most vulnerable

>>67791943
The majority of it does

What else does it go to? Roads? Natives?
Back up your claims please

>>67792081
>Do you feel the effects (good or bad) of the federal form of government in your daily lives ?
Yes I do, everyone does
Even out here in bumfuck we feel the effects of bigwigs in D.C.
Federalism does that

>>67792115
>England
>Not mocking the Norn, Scots, and Welsh
Uh huh

>>67792198
>because of skin color
niggers are stupid, get over it

>>67792399
>Federalism does that
It would be much worse if the US was a unitary state, wouldn't it ?

File: 1471298503695.jpg (112KB, 1436x1329px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 1436x1329px

>>67792470
I wouldn't want to see it happen that's for sure

>>67792259
>since you're so anti-tax
Where did I say that you massive faggot

>the whole point of a government is to create a safety net and effective services for their citizens.
Why not just have the government do everything for the citizen and transform the planet into a Huxleyan shithole. It's not the government's job to protect you from your own retardation. The government got us into the mess with the healthcare and educational systems because they got involved in an irresponsible way

>>67792316
>it's the government's job to secure people against unwise investments
This is the reasoning that led to the housing bubble in the first place

>>67792261
>Ask any Frenchman if Healthcare/Fire/Prisons should be privatised, or for profit, I'm 90% sure they would never say yes.
I don't care

>You've never tried a state-owned approach, and (no offense) scream socialism at every attempt to do so.
I object to it because it won't work when the white middle class is the only group paying into the system

File: annoyed.jpg (12KB, 251x242px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 251x242px

>>67783259
no one cares about your country except for borat and neckbeards who like that one volleyball player

literally no american can name anyone from your country or point it out on a map

File: 1476061694515.gif (2MB, 236x244px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 236x244px

>>67792644
But you just did
Borat from Borat

>>67792606
>This is the reasoning that led to the housing bubble in the first place
I've read that it was because of too few regulations, not too much.

>it won't work when the white middle class is the only group paying into the system
Somehow I doubt that's true. Not every black man in the US is on welfare.

File: Screen Shot 2016-11-23 at 1.06.12 PM.png (90KB, 650x470px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 650x470px

>>67787074

Montana is based and libertarian, not Mormon. Don't lump it together with Utah.

>>67792644
>I'm stupid so I win xDD
End yourself and end every other US poster that does this obnoxious shit while you're at it.

File: cf89185a3.jpg (41KB, 570x760px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 570x760px

>>67792399
I'm still looking for more data, but red states consume more welfare, not just subsidies. Also, the burden of proof is also on you to show that the majority of federal funding red states receive is farm subsidies.

>>67792752
Why can't you play along but you have to put on the fedora

File: m6345qsf.gif (18KB, 560x620px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 560x620px

>why don't people live in these states?

>>67792715
>I've read that it was because of too few regulations, not too much.
Bill Clinton decided that banks not issuing loans to black people was racist so he decided to secure the banks against loan failure when they did lend to black people. The banks switched from issuing a few safe loans to middle class people to issuing dozens of unsafe loans to niggers. It created the housing bubble

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

>Not every black man in the US is on welfare.
Enough are to make it not work. Euros refuse to consider the fact that the situation in America is not analogous to the situation in Europe and instead you just bitch and virtue signal because we don't have universal healthcare. Fuck off

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

>>67792864
Out of every 100,000 people there is literally no significant difference between 15 and 30 suicides.

>>67792758
https://www.whitehouse.gov/2014-taxreceipt
I've given up on trying to find data that breaks it up on a state by state level, but agriculture accounts for .97% of the federal budget. I highly doubt that the majority of money red states receive can be agriculture subsidies when that accounts for .97% of federal spending

>>67792929
>Bill Clinton decided that banks not issuing loans to black people was racist
That's not public welfare, that's deregulation. An easy solution would have been to nationalise the banks.

> America is not analogous to the situation in Europe
>not recognising that your healthcare system purposefully screws you over

>>67792929
>http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/
all I'm seeing are a list of statistics with no cited studies to back them up. if you weren't full of shit you'd be posting government links.

>>67783259
Well, not those ones anyway.

>>67792864
>comfiest state with best nature is the one with the highest suicide rates
Too lax guns laws and too easy access to them ?

>>67793113
Humans are social creatures. That kind of isolation isn't good for us.

I don't understand why autists always bring mountains of statistics and articles into these discussions when it's obviously completely based on personal preference or personal ties to the land they are and not objectivity why somebody would want to live one place and not another within the US.

File: firewatch0122161280jpg-0d7b84_1280w.jpg (126KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

126KB, 1280x720px

>>67793215
Now I understand why Firewatch was so depressing.
Still, I thought Americans were friendly people. (too friendly even, with small talk and shit.)

>>67783211
>hold a giant chunk of the US's resources and agriculture so that coastal cunts can live in fucking comfort and waste their worries on how much their cuntbag iphones are charged
You wouldn't be sustainable as a nation if they vanished. Coastal states mean NOTHING, all they accomplish is shuffling paper and digital numbers around.

>>67783211

You wouldn't have Trump without them, so shut the fuck up.

>>67792983
it's an effective way to measure suicide rates, if they were to do it by sheer number of people committing suicide by year that wouldn't take the population into account.
>>67793113
I actually think it's pretty reasonable to have guns in those states (not the school shooter tier ones but actual hunting rifles), because police departments are very scattered and it takes hours for a follow up on home invasion calls, plus they have mammals capable of killing humans and a lot of people hunt for food. The real issue is the lack of healthcare services and job opportunities. no psychiatric help or groups of people to vent to for miles, and limited job opportunities besides self sustenance and maybe lumber or drilling.

>>67793056
>that's not public welfare, that's deregulation
The government getting involved and fucking with relatively stable market forces is not deregulation

>an easy solution would have been to nationalize the banks
Whatever you say

>>67793060
It was the first link that came up
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-97.html
https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo/p70-141.pdf
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/

>>67787709
Americans hate each other.

Class, race, education, gender, you name it.

>>67793315
>I thought Americans were friendly people
We mostly are, I think.
>(too friendly even, with small talk and shit.)
And this is also true desu. Gets on my nerves sometimes and I've lived here all my life.

>>67793113
>Too lax guns laws and too easy access to them?
No. Places with lower population densities tend to have higher suicide rates regardless of the gun laws

File: Bighorn Mts Wyoming.jpg (86KB, 800x535px) Image search: [Google]

86KB, 800x535px

>>67792758
>>67792995
I ran into the same problem of finding it state by state but I am now aware that there is a statistical problem, mainly stemming from population and farmhands, that skews South Dakota's subsidy percentages

I'm wrong then, oh well

In that case it must either be medicaid or welfare for Natives, because I can't think of anything else the Government would spend on here

>>67793394
California is actually one of the largest agricultural states economically, but that stems from having a fertile crescent untouched by civilization, next to no problems of water supply, little to no freeze, and the right temperature to grow cash crops that cannot be grown anywhere else in the country.
Same with Oregon.

They have a lot of economic staying power and can accomplish a lot, though you are right in that the Great Plains do account for some hefty weight in agricultural and mineral wealth

>>67793315
Americans are friendly people, but when there's only half a million people in a large state and the majority of them live in a few cities, you can get pretty lonely if you live out in the expanse

>>67793730
>next to no problems of water supply
Didn't they have to specifically exempt farmers from the water rationing laws because they use too much fucking water?

>>67783211
Utah is pretty interesting tbqh

>>67793971
Mormons are fucking weirdos but it is an absolutely gorgeous state. Never lived there or spent any considerable time there but I love driving through it.

>>67793917
I thought they exempted them because if the water was rationed to them they couldn't grow as much
And since they don't grow corn their subsidies would be worthless, so they'd lose a lot of cash

I just thought people made a fuss about it because "lmao almonds are more necessary than my lawn water"

>>67794048
I don't know, honestly couldn't give less of a shit about Cali's problems

>>67794047
Mormons are nice people

>>67787709
I don't have any contempt for the profession of farming, but I dislike the people who live in those states because they're the ones who tend to be most supportive of christfaggy legislated morality. Which is ironic because conservatives are also generally the ones hollering on about muh liberty. If they'd extend that liberty to the rest of us, I wouldn't feel negatively toward them at all.

>>67794209
>Mormons are nice people
They usually are, I agree. I didn't say they weren't. I just said they were weird.

>>67794290
>they're the ones who tend to be most supportive of christfaggy legislated morality
Have you forgotten about the bible belt or something?

>>67794429
I wish I could forget about the bible belt but I grew up there (suburb of Birmingham, AL) so I can't. Honestly though even Birmingham is pretty purple these days on the voting scale. The country parts of the state are as red as it gets though.

>>67794429
Have you ever been to Kansas or Nebraska?

>>67794600
Yes
It was very odd for me to see anti-abortion ads on the roadsides, but looking at their legislative history it lines up with national trends for red states in general

I guess it's just odd because the Dakotas are fairly centrist (Though nobody will tell you this)

>>67794702
>the Dakotas are fairly centrist (Though nobody will tell you this)
You're right, I had no idea. Got any examples of this?

File: rip in peace mcgovern.jpg (628KB, 1280x960px) Image search: [Google]

628KB, 1280x960px

>>67794797

>>67794702
>I guess it's just odd because the Dakotas are fairly centrist
Isn't it mostly just non-meme libertarians?

>>67783211
>Getting rid of the Midwest
>Sparing California

File: 1479592879416.jpg (158KB, 899x600px) Image search: [Google]

158KB, 899x600px

>>67794979
>Midwest

>>67794907
For the most part I suppose

The state is very supportive of businesses but won't shy away from regulations if there's a problem

I think it has more to do with representatives being actual humans here and knowing that beneficial problems hurt someone else

>>67794907
Not sure about the Dakotas but a lot of Washington is like this. I'm in Seattle which is about as liberal as San Francisco but the desert of east WA has a ton of libertarian type conservatives. I could believe the Dakotas would attract those types too. They like being in the middle of nowhere where they can be left alone.

File: ca.png (320KB, 763x724px) Image search: [Google]

320KB, 763x724px

>>67788070
They're working on it.

>>67794979
>Midwest
That's the Great Plains you knob

>>67795323
California here. I've got a job lined up on the other side of the coast. This shit gets on the ballot, I'm gonna vote for it and fuck right off.

>>67788338
I imagine if California really did secede, Jefferson would probably be cut out of the deal. They REALLY don't want to be a part of California. We'd take them at any cost.

>>67795349
Iowa, and the Dakotas are considered Midwest, Nebraska too sometimes

It's weird

>>67795371
Please do, I want to firebomb San Francisco in the Californian war for independence

>>67789683
>>67783259
Many American States are more relevant than your respective countries.

>>67795051
>>67795124
I think that a lot of people here(Arkansas) are fairly libertarian aside from abortion. We just get stuck with meme representatives because the Republicans feel the need to pander to the Christcucks

hey man wyoming is comfy as fuck

Are you stupid? Do you know how much food that part of the country grows man?
People would literally starve.

>>67795872
No they wouldn't, they'd just do what they do already

Import tons of beef from Argentina and Australia while US farmers and ranchers sell to third world countries who burn the food and starve to death

>>67795969
>Argentina
>not India not Brazil

File: upper great plains.png (1MB, 1600x1389px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1600x1389px

>>67795042
>>67795349
part of the midwest

bettter than the shitty rustt belt