Why is Japan so rich while the rest of Asia is literally third

Because the Yamato is THE masterrace.

>>67722995
>Libya
>orange
>not a destabilised shithole poor country after Khadafi's death

>greece
>red
>poland
>orange

Even Poland is richer than Greece. This map is either outdated or pure shit.

>>67722995
>massive US subsidies and investment
>uninterrupted access to the largest consumer market in the world for 70 years
I wonder

>>67722995
samurai spirit

>>67722995
it's almost as if economics specific to countries is an extremely complicated thing, intertwined with the rest of the world...

>>67722995
Japan has like, the worst debt in the entire world. Even worse than the US. They can't escape it because they just kept spending and ignoring it. They've spent more money than they generate for a very long time.

>>67722995
You need to be nuked to be rich

Wanna try?

>>67723036
You forgot
>Poortugal

>>67723157
Yeah, the more you look at it, the more the retardation of this map seeps in desu

Because it's oppressively capitalist to the point it makes America look like a communist paradise.

People work insane hours without overtime, taxes are beyond ridiculous and there's at least 2 vending machines on every single street corner. You can't even get debit cards, you pretty much either pay by cash or suck it up and get a credit card.

Ironically this is also what's killing Japan because now people are too busy and tired to start families.

why are portugal and latin America not rich although they weren't nuked or communism'd?

>>67723247
>portugal
>bad economic/market policy

>latin america
>corrupt leaders and geo-politics

>>67722995
isnt that the one mexican who is obsessed with whiteness

>>67723089
japan's debt is issued in yen and owned by itself unlike most of debt-ridden nations.
furthermore, in international perspective, japan is the largest net creditor nation in the world.

>>67723247
latin america has had commie problems for decades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_conflict
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_tide

>>67722995
Hello korean. I see you enjoy live in headlessland. Good.

>>67723298
Hello nippon. I see you enjoy live in skincancerland. Good.

>>67723036
Agree Mexico must be red by now.

Japan lost the WW2, and then USA let Japan stop the war.
Japan is to put effort into the industry. At the same time, the war happened between SouthKorea and NorthKorea. Because Japan is nearby, Japan sold many things to need for the war and live .
And Dollar corrective took place in USA.That was so good for Japan. The economy was much better.

But due to developing the industry, the agriculture is declining.

>>67723564
That's interesting.

>>67723564
It's not like you have much land to work with at this point.

>>67724223
Also Japan's native rule wasn't destroyed or raped into an ineffective/token institute.

>>67723564
why do you write like a mexican

>>67724424
Japan and later on SK have a lot of things that development wise are unique to rare that they have.

>>67722995
>island protected by sea and located at the end of asia
>friendly portuguese explorers literally teach them how to produce fireweapons
>euros have to cross 2 oceans to send an expedition

>fastforward euros want to conquer china
>japanese offer trade agreements and military benefits in exchange of industrialization

>fastorward again ww1 starts and euros have to call their military out of their asian colonies because they need reinforcements
>japs conquer the abandoned colonies

>japs lose ww2 but recieve massive investments from the americans in exchange of a debt even more massive and military benefits

>>67722995
>commit crimes against other nations
>use the stolen wealth as well as foreign aid to build up the economy
Compare the relation between Korea and Japan with any orange country in Europe and Germany.

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>>67725379
>stolen wealth
>foreign aid
lmao japan has never gotten a foreign aid. it's literally a self-made country.
also, colonial management didn't have a surplus but was always in deficit as korea has little natural resources to compensate for the massive money poured into it to develop. the sole reason why modern east asia is somewhat wealthy is the propagation of japanese development method, technology and capital. it's been the core of modern asian development.

>>67725683
>it's literally a self-made country.

Not really.

>>67725696
yes it is. not only did it establish the empire on its own but it also didn't got post war rebuilding funds like marshall plan in europe (on the contrary japan paid massive occupation cost).

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>>67723036
holland is shit
not that map

>>67725683
nigger your country was completely destroyed and reubuilt by America

>>67725950
rebuilt by japan, retarded britmonkey

>>67725950
pretty much this

>>67725919
I wish they'd separate Scotland and NI from the rest of England in these maps, I feel like it's not indicative of the entirety of the UK

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>>67725683
>Japan's solution to the spread of communism
>misguided

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>>67725683
>mfw japs actually believe this

>>67722995
Ha! The whole of Asia is amazingly developing now tho
Even a tiny country like East Timor is developing

>>67722995
People of Japan, Korea and coastal China are very white - due to european colonists.

>>67722995
Lol this nigga painted mexico blue in his fake map

>>67728477
It's dope, isn't it?
Too bad, An era for white people is over.
Let's encourage sending refugees and immigrants to Europe, America even more and more.
#revengeonwhitepeople
#coloredtrumpshate

>>67728731
fuck whites and asians

Japan didn't face civil wars or political revolution in the 20th century like mainland Asia.

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>>67722995
>Korea 90000 USD
>Mexico 25000 USD
>same colored

fuck off

>>67722995
>portugal
every time

Japs, Chinks and gooks are tryhards who wish they could be considered Western and equal to whites. However, they will never even match the Philippines, which is the only Western country in Asia.

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>>67730594
>Philippines, which is the only Western country in Asia.
what?

>>67730870
They speak English, are Catholic and the most Americanized nation in this region. In their minds, they are Western.

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>>67730594
>japan
>western

>>67731958
That's exactly what the West did at the time: turn into colonies as much countries as possible. Japan just mimicked them, and I have to add, did it pretty succesfully.

>>67730460
>orange is 25,000 to 100,000
>Korea 90000 USD
>Mexico 25000 USD
>triggered that Mexico and Korea same colored
>implying a typical Korean inferiority complex
KEK

>>67732288
>says a man from a country having Siberia and once the entire central Asia.
The most successful colonization is yours.

>>67726025
i would tell you to read a textbook but they dont have real history i your books. Britain and America helped japan out a lot when becoming westernized then America helped you become flat and helped you rebuild then you had a economic miracle. without America your ojiikun would have been at the end of my grandfathers bayonet in the 70s

>>67732288
not at the time the league of nations forbid it but japan was like you were doing it 20 mins ago let me and they kinda looked the other way

Stop this meme about Portugal.

Ok, they smell bad and their language is disgusting, but they do not deserve that harassment. It's hurt me (no).

>>67732753
t. Alberto Barbosa

Because Japan has been industrialized for much longer than any other Asian country

>>67725683
>keynesian just werks TM
>self made
no

>>67732753
this

>>67726025
>>67725683
>>67725779
>Japan's developed economy is the result of sovereign self-made effort
>implying Nippon superiority and exceptionalism
>looks at 20 years of 0.5-1% GPD growth
>Japan's import/export trade dominated by the Chinese market
>cries
Don't cry. Your country's economy is a proud, self-made effort, so you can't blame anyone but yourself.

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>>67730594
Philippines is not good enough at banter to be western yet

Why S.Korean flag is a plagiarism of Japanese flag? They are supposed to hate the Japanese and feel very different from them.

>>67723089
Japan owns most of its own debt. Most of the rest is owned by close allies like America

>>67733173
why don't you speak proper thpanish aren't colonies supposed to speak worse than the motherland?

>>67733247
>thpanish

I don't speak this language. First time I hear about it.

Because Japan forced itself to rely on itself for so long they had to develop everything for themselves instead of relying on the west for everything like good little colonies
Historical advantage blahblahblah WW2 blahblahblah people still educated blahblahblah Success

Because we were placed in the far far east and therefore Europe never colonized us
And we were smart enough to adapt into the western ways in the late 1800s unlike China
And also ally with the US instead of the UK or Russia or the Dutch when we opened our country

>>67733173
because Nippon-sama was my big brother from 5th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimana

>>67730594
ofc no one can match philipines, they are the strongest race. but becoming the 2nd strongest is not bad either,

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l>>67733173
hardly. It has origins from Joseon dynasty

>>67733369
>Because we were placed in the far far east and therefore Europe never colonized us And we were smart enough to adapt into the western ways in the late 1800s unlike China
As retarded as this sounds, this is why Japan got this far. Even if it was merely mimicking western technology and colonialism, they modernized early on while other Asian countries were just jacking off.

>>67733733
thats only because America oniichan forced it down their throats

>>67733733
도발 목적인 저 스페인 검둥이한테 진지하게 답해줄 필요없단다

>>67733788
>America oniichan forced it down their throats

America was not that much big of a power during those times
That's why Japan chose to side with the US
It was Russia seeking for ice-free ports and the UK trying to prevent it
Side with either one of them and we would have become vassal state

>>67722995
Japanese are realists.
They didn't support shit communism.

>>67725683
>lmao japan has never gotten a foreign aid. it's literally a self-made country.
>>67734164
>Japanese are realists.
how?

>>67722995
Korea, Japan, Taiwan are first world. Everywhere else is a communist shithole

>>67732538
>this is what anglos really believe
britain never "helped" japan but they allied with us to check russia in the east as they didn't have the balls to wage a 1v1 war against russia (as usual). also, bringing up "american help" is literally pointless as japan would have had a way larger economic sphere had it not been for the ww2 loss. after all, it was inevitable for us yamato masterrace to become one of the largest economies and a great power.

>>67733733
your country's existence is a byproduct of japanese empire. it's japan that made korea an independent country in the first place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Shimonoseki

>>67722995
I guess it's the Tokugawa isolation that helped them. When they opened again in the 19th century, the many years of careful studying of Western culture taught them both good practices and preserved their culture.

>>67734383
>korea
?
what about Hong Kong and Singapore
>>67734598
but you did loose the war... so your point is invalid.
and because pussies like you your population is declining your "master race" is disappearing.

>it's japan that made korea an independent country in the first place.
hehe yeah they would still be china

>>67734703
Korea has the highest HDI in Asia aside from city states

Point is not postwar
Look at this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiji_Restoration

>>67723243

with high taxes i wouldnt say its so capitalist. i mean those taxes probably go to help people that has it hard

also the insane hours isnt capitalist its just asian bullshit because it actually makes you perform worse so it doesnt even make sense for productivity

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>>67734703
>so your point is invalid
it's pretty much valid, since your "american help", if any, proved to be useless in terms of development. just look at those shitholes around the world left after their wartime devastation and occupation by america. or, look at the phillippines, which was literally developed by america as a colony. if american support was so effective they all should've been a first world, and yet it's only japan and germany (and maybe italy) that managed to rebuild their countries rapidly and to become great economies again. this is because they were great powers that could wage a world war, even though they lost, to dominate the globe in the first place, not because post war american support was effective.

>>67736171
Germany was under American, English, french and Russian control for a while after the war they rebuilt Germany (Russia not so much). as for Italy it was shit then its shit now.

America came in at the last minute and ended it it wasn't like they were struggling to fight.

i hate America more than alot of people but you can not deny that japan would be a shit hole if it wasn't for America.

the main reason japan was fucking us was because that war was neglected and japan was underestimated.

you currently still have American bases in Okinawa and rely on American protection because when America fucked you they fucked you into a bitch.

>>67736564
>but you can not deny that japan would be a shit hole if it wasn't for America.
a japan holding imperial japanese dominion would be way more powerful than current japan.

>the main reason japan was fucking us was because that war was neglected and japan was underestimated.
even today, only america has decent carrier strike fleets and global scale amphibious expeditionary forces.

>you currently still have American bases in Okinawa and rely on American protection because when America fucked you they fucked you into a bitch.
not really. they are here because they deep down fear japan and need to check it, as shown in Kissinger-Zhou talks in 1971 ;^)

>A strong Japan has potentially some of the tendencies which the Prime Minister mentioned. A strong Japan has the economic and social infrastructure which permits it to create a strong military machine and use this for expansionist purposes if it so desires. The American forces on Japan are in this respect totally insignificant. They play no role compared to the potential power Japan represents. If Japan builds its own military machine, which it will do if it feels forsaken by us, and if it builds nuclear weapons, as it could easily do, then I feel fears which you have expressed could become real indeed. In fact, Mr. Prime Minister, from the point of view of the sort of theory which I used to teach in universities, it would make good sense for us to withdraw from Japan, allow Japan to re-arm, and then let Japan and China balance each other off in the Pacific. This is not our policy. So I really believe, Mr. Prime Minister, that with respect to Japan, Your interests and ours are very similar. Neither of us wants to see Japan heavily re-armed. The few bases we have there are purely defensive and enable them to postpone their own rearmament. But if they nevertheless rearm heavily, I doubt that we will maintain our bases there. So we are not using Japan against you; this would be much too dangerous for both of us.

>>67737434
>because they deep down fear japan
no one is scared of japan if they did anything America or Russia would nuke them you don't need bases in japan to do that. the reason they have bases is a reminder.
>a japan holding imperial japanese dominion would be way more powerful than current japan.
you tried that and got fucked in the arse

>>67722995
others are shit, not japan is rich. it isnt just as shitty as others.

china is ccp driven, and sk is still based on some unscientific/illogical pre modern norms.

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>>67737612
just read what Kissinger said:
>and if it builds nuclear weapons, as it could easily do, then I feel fears which you have expressed could become real indeed.

>you tried that and got fucked in the arse
that's the result of ww2 and japan was a great power before that, meaning japan is great without american involvement ;^)

>>67737920
before or after America made you trade with them and along with Britain helped you become a developed country.
or do you mean when it betrayed the agreements with its allies on the league of nations?

>>67738046
>America made you trade with them and along with Britain helped you become a developed country.
that's not help but an invasion. it stirred japan into the meiji restoration though, in which japan never got an economic aid or something like that but studied western arts to repel european/american expansion.

>>67722995
>Portugal
everytime kek

>>67738420
they didn't invade just opened your borders to trade which without that japan would have been running around with swords and shitty guns and china or Russia would have taken you.

>studied western arts to repel european/american expansion.
not to repel but to catch up because they were so far behind.
>japan is a great lone country
it obviously wasn't, a single country can not survive without help.

>>67735562

They don't. The system is actually on the verge of collapse because the government can't get enough people to pay into their batshit mandatory pension programme.

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>>67738658
>they didn't invade just opened your borders to trade
if you try to force a country to do something it's pretty much an invasion m8

>which without that japan would have been running around with swords and shitty guns and china or Russia would have taken you.
that's a pointless "if" as japan developed by its own strategy.

>not to repel but to catch up because they were so far behind.
actually, even a rural daimyo repelled the brits (pic related).

>it obviously wasn't, a single country can not survive without help.
of course japan adopt lots of foreign stuff, but it wasn't "help".

>>67723247
It's due to their culture and race.

>>67739438
>pretty much an invasion
its not though
>developed by its own strategy.
they didn't develop hence leaving to learn so japan WOULD NOT have developed. its not an if.
>even a rural daimyo repelled the brits
not for long
>adopt lots of foreign stuff, but it wasn't "help".
the beginning of the argument for me was this
>lmao japan has never gotten a foreign aid. it's literally a self-made country.
WHICH IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT

>>67739685
>adopt lots of foreign stuff, but it wasn't "help".
missed a point
America helped rebuild after they knocked you down.

>>67739744
>America helped rebuild after they knocked you down.
no they didn't. they intended to make japan a harmless, agrarian country at first, but they had to lift a ban on heavy industry after the outbreak of the korean war so that they could repair/buy military stuff cheap in japan, so it's just a logistical reason. besides, it's hardly considered a help that lifting a ban that was set by themselves in the first place. postwar japanese industrial boom started at that point, helped by lots of experienced japanese engineers who had been in military industries and lost their job after the ww2. nikon, sony, subaru, etc. etc., lots of corporations have a military past and postwar japanese economic miracle was done by them who cultivated their technology in the war.

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>>67741410
>>67738420
>>67737850
>>67737434
>>67736171
>>67734598
>>67725779
>>67725683
>>67723290
A nip baiting this hard

>>67725683
A self-made country with a Constitution made by the US, the country controlled by the US and the economy controlled by the US. Too self-made. Maybe you could all forget Japanese and start speaking only English.

>>67745493
extreme argument

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>>67722995

>tfw I earn 15000 usd per year and still live with my parents

what a fucking country man

>>67723293
>communist guerrillas are the problem of colombia

t. not colombian

>>67725683
>self-made country
>Japan

>>67730594
A flip would suck a pencil that was pulled out of my ass if it's white.

All that it's true, which makes quite funny the fact that Japan is a much better place than USA in every way.

>>67752872
Meant for >>67745493

>>67730460
Where the fuck are Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE?

>>67722995
>rest of Asia is literally third world
i don't think you know what "third world" means.

>>67730870
>>67733033
They're also the strongest race.

>>67752872
Japan is one of the top 3 best places to live in the entire world so that doesn't bother anyone

>>67756018
if America is in that list you are deluded

>>67756018
it isnt you dumbass

>>67756018
>>67758909
yeah too much stress, nice to visit but people say living there is hard. best places to live would be in Europe.

>>67722995
Japan was never colonized so vampi...err Europeans never got to suck them dry.

because japan was american cheap factory after WWII, just like china is today.

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>>67722995
>japan
>rich

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>>67759451
That's not true, and a typical misunderstanding about Japanese economy.
Actually, Japan, along with the US, has one of the lowest trade dependencies in the world, meaning that export comprises only a small fraction of its economy. Japan hasn't been an export oriented country unlike Germany and Korea.

>>67760573
he said just like china and to your graph japan is closer to china than it is to america

>>67758861
Never said that. It's top 10 though
>>67758909
>>67759061
Europes not a country though

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>>67752872
You're deluded

>>67760713
its not even in the top 10

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>>67760798
For big countries it absolutely is.

>>67760713
i know europe is not a country i meant countries in europe.
bu happiness (how good it is to live there)
1) denmark
2) switzerland
3) iceland
4) norway
5) finland
6) canada
7)netherlands
8) new zealand
9) australia
10) sweden
...
13) united states
.........
53) japan
...
58) s. korea
.............
94) portugal

>>67760855
Eh, fair enough.

>>67760669
No.
He said that being a cheap export factory is how Japan became rich and I debunked that by showing the trade dependency during Japan's economic boom period (60's-80's) in which Japan's trade dependency had never been over 30%, lower than the average of the world, while China's reached even 60+% in their boom period.

>>67761016
ごめん日本さま

>>67761016
>work 12 hours at electronics factory
>go home
>defend nippons honor for 4 hours on internet
>sleep
ur pretty retarded tbqh

>Portugal

>>67728500
huh

>>67736171

Americans didn't stay here for long. Spain turned this country into a shithole since they stayed here for centuries

>>67723037
>>massive US subsidies
how much?

>>67763051
Last time I checked it was the US the one that banned tagalog and executed tens of thousands of pinoys not Spain.

>>67756018
I wish I lived in Japan damn.