>tfw we aren't bilingual like Paraguay, Peru, Chile because

>>67565278
we almost weren't bilingual as well. C.A. Lopez and the post-war argentine occupation forbid using it
all it took was some civilian (passive) resistance to preserve the language, which was made official only in 1992

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>>67565441
>USA

Your second lenguaje wouldn't be even relevant as Guarani.

>>67565461
well 2bqf, what killed tupi here was mostly the massive portuguese immigration after gold was found and not really the colonial government, obviously they didn't help too by sending the jesuits away. B-but I wish we could speak 2 languages :(

>>67565585
it was until the XVIII century 2bh, everybody from North to South spoke it, and people just used portuguese to communicate with the royal family. Basically when the royal family moved here they have put a nail to Tupi's coffin

>>67565461
>post-war argentine occupation
Never read about it, always assumed the Brs occupied you

>>67565657
you guys stayed 15 years for the Reconstruction. all that cash spent was later pardoned by future governments
(tho yeah many lands were "bought" by argentinians like the Casado in order to pay for expenses)
if i ever hear a paraguayan dissing on "kurepas" i remind him that

>>67565585
considering nheengatu is basically guarani with portuguese writing rules, i'd say it would have been big enough. but yeah the portuguese prefered to kill and enslave than to love and scam

>>67565841
>but yeah the portuguese prefered to kill and enslave than to love and scam
nah, we fucked them as much as you guys, it's just this >>67565587 and >>67565647

>>67565841
do you guys hear guarani on a daily basis?

>>67565278
>chile
>bilingual

guarani was spoken here in the north (even by some white people) until the 1900s but it was finished by public schools and european immigration

>>67566025
of courshe
even at the Congress someone can use mixed guarani (called jopara) when he needs to express his feelings properly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyeMAGNtqgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llKpIZ6zd18

>>67566116
north of chile?

>>67565278

>Chile
>bilingual

kek

>>67566212
more like south, Mapuche and/or Chilote lands

>>67566207
that's crazy m8

>>67565278

>Wanting to speaking favela voodoo moon speach

Indians pls

>>67566359
Marquis of Pombal detected

>>67565278
>wanting to be bilingual

>>67566207
they sapucai too?

>>67566252

nope,only in "galvarino" and "padre las casas"

>>67566212
Chilean quechuas are only around 90 000
>>67566252
The government tries to help that language survive, but the truth is that most Mapuche speak only Spanish. One day the mapundungun will die completely, just like many other indigenous languages. In addition it is only spoken in some random place of the Araucania (region), not all the south. And has about 500 000 speakers, no more

>>67565278
Who is this cute boy

>>67566621
that's, like, sad and shit

>>67566403
every political meeting has a professional sapucái giver methinks. this guy is the most famous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mSDa41djqA

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>>67566832

kuruminha

>>67565278
> anything native american
> good
you should thank your european overlords for enlighten your kind to be honest

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>>67566906
thank you german overlords for our cold meat

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>>67566906
you guys can't even get Switzerland and Austria to speak your language m8

>>67565278
It may sound cold but it isn't worth it, effort would be better spent promoting bilingualism in English which has better economic returns for it's speakers and opens better posibilities of finding anything from the largest scientific corpus to translations of most relevant world literature.

Our largest extant Amerindian language, Nahua, the Aztec language is not even at 2 million speakers at this point, Maya is a little below that with most of our remaining 60 national languages under 100,000 speakers. Sure, the government does invest in efforts to mantain them and indigenous kids get bilingual education in both their own language and Spanish but it is putting a heavy burden on people who would otherwise be more likely to attend university.

Don't get me wrong, they're beautiful and an important part of heritage, but other than for a profesional class of academics of little real world value and trying to change that through government subsidies is a waste that's only keeping down the people it's suposed to help.

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>>67567176
>effort would be better spent promoting bilingualism in English which has better economic returns for it's speakers and opens better posibilities of finding anything from the largest scientific corpus to translations of most relevant world literature.
kek, are you an anglo to be this pragmatic and say fuck culture, history, heritage for progress?

>>67566885
Thanks

>>67567176
if anything, those languages belong in a museum. they should never be lost

>>67565441
If Americans had a native language, what would it be? I never read into that.

>>67565278
>native language
Singular?

>>67567366
There were like 6 native language groups each with their own dialects in this country. It's fucking huge if you hadn't noticed.

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>>67567486
until the XVIII the jesuits and the native tribes developed a common language among all tribes that became known as Língua Geral (General Language) which was spoken from North to South. But in XVIII century gold was discovered and the Portuguese King decided to expell the jesuits and give education to another branch of the Catholic Church which emphasized portuguese, also due to Gold being discovered in Minas Gerais, Portuguese immigration + African slaves became huge and slowly the Língua Geral was being phased out until the Portuguese Royal Family moved here in 1808 to escape Napoleonic Wars putting the final nail to the Língua Geral, but it still kinda survived in the Amazon until today and in the countryside of São Paulo and some other places until the XX century, but due to distance they evolved into somewhat different languages. And nowadays only the Amazon branch still exists and it's called Nheengatu (Good Language), and it's the direct evolution of the Língua Geral

>>67567747
>Língua Geral
There wasn't much linguistic diversity in precolombian Brazil then if this was possible?

>>67567905
there was, but since the portuguese allied and lived themselves with the Tupi tribes that lived in the coast of Brazil, they dominated and assimilated the others. Including those in the countryside

>>67567905
also, yeah, Brazil was basically a huge rainforest from North to South, hence why there wasn't a big development and population of the natives. Most of them were in Paleolithic age still

>>67567747
that is interesting as fuck 2bh

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>>67567576
Brazil from all its regions has a total 276 different Native American languages, but what's today simply called "Tupi" and "Guarani" are the mainstream languages that could become co-official language nationwide. I'd like to know if there is any Native American language in the USA that survived long enough to become a co-official language.

Thank god.

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>>67568706
>wanting to be ignorant of your own history
disgusting, you should be gassed

>>67568740
I'm not an inj*n, it's not my history.

>>67568609
cherokee was used as warcode
the thing is that, name any unitedstatian native tribe, they all belong at only some part of USA
what happened here it's like forcing Algonquian on everyone else

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>countries that are not trilingual

>>67568762
Then keep being a cuckold and have your country flooded with jobless Iberians. Th language barrier has a major impact in immigration and could potentially even halt it, specially such extremely difficult to learn languages such as Tupi and Guarani.

>>67568762
you are brazilian m8, Tupi is part of your history

>>67568888
From Mato Grosso do Sul to Rio Grande do Sul we'd be speaking Guarani though.

>>67568940
yeah, Nheengatu is basically inteligible with Guarani 2bh

>>67568967
except you write it weird
seriously, why can't you spell it avakachî

>>67568847
Chances are your ancestors were "jobless iberians" too, or italians or whatever other people that came from abroad.
Brazil was very sparsely populated in pre-colombian and our population is one of the least mixed with natives in latin america.

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>>67568888
kek has spoken

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>>67568997
>mfw avakachî is abacaxi

>>67569005
Nah, but they were quite poor themselves, yes. But I honestly couldn't care less about those who arrived in this country post 2000, and I'd honestly shut the borders entirely if I could.

>Brazil was very sparsely populated in pre-colombian and our population is one of the least mixed with natives in latin america.
Speak for yourself, and again, the exceptions don't make the rule. The majority of South Brazilians are in fact mestizos, specially in the region between Uruguay and Santa Catarina where the original Gaúcho population was born as a literal tribe of mestizos.

Also, the very states that lack any Native American influence are exactly the ones with the highest sub-Saharan African influences, both culturally and genetically. You're on the losing end imho.

>>67566885
please make more kuruminha r34

>>67569360
Even in the south and southeast the african admixture is much higher than native, stop deluding yourself.

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>>67569514
t. microcephalic chimpanzee

>>67569575
>Uruguayan population

>>67569615
Uruguay, once called Banda Oriental, was literally within the territories of the Empire of Brazil, and both Uruguayans and Riograndeses share the exact same origins as Gaúchos, and you're unironically an uneducated chimp.

>>67566399
>proud to be ignorant
Vete a mierda guiri

>>67569752
guiri is equal to gringo?

So what is the situation of the indigenous languages in Brazil. Does the government care for them? Is the number of speakers increasing for any of them?

>>67569691
Except Uruguay didn't have nearly as much contact with Africans than the brazilian south did.

Rio Grande do Sul has one of the highest populations of umbanda practitioners.
I lived in RS before, the coast is as brazilian (with iberian colonization) as it gets, with blacks and all that.

>>67569823
>Does the government care for them?
No

>Is the number of speakers increasing for any of them?
No, its decreasing, a lot of natives just speak Portuguese and don't even wear their cultural clothes anymore, just shorts

>>67565278
At least you can speak English.

>>67569823
>Does the government care for them?
Yeap, because of the access to medicine they are growing as hell
>Is the number of speakers increasing for any of them?
Yeap, but still really slowly, also tons of tribes that forgot their native language are starting to have classes of them. Also last year a dictionary with 8k entries of Nheengatu was made by a University of São Paulo teacher including the grammar and other shit. But yeah the number of speakers is literally lower than 50k

>>67569975
>>Does the government care for them?
>No

>>67569975
>No, its decreasing, a lot of natives just speak Portuguese and don't even wear their cultural clothes anymore, just shorts
t. stupid fuck

What race is the meme in the OP?

>>67570072
amerindian? or you mean to ask what specific ethnic?
then i think she's from Xingu

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>>67570072
literally amazonian native, most famous tribes are xingú and some others, the meme is called kuruminha (little girl in native language)

Can someone tell me what native languages have their own writing system? Including the ones that use Latin alphabet

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>>67569843
>

Except they're almost exclusively isolated to Porto Alegre and Pelotas, and as I said, exceptions don't make the rule. I'm literally a Nederlander, and so are half the people I know, that automatically means most Brazilians are essentially Dutch according to your simian-like reasoning.

And regarding Uruguay, they too have their fair share of nogs, somehow very similar to those found in Rio de Janeiro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VT6D6hXNpk [Embed]

>>67570221
>Can someone tell me what native languages have their own writing system?
Tupi Antigo and nheengatu. It's literally the translation of how it sounds to portuguese speakers, since natives haven't invented writing when they were discovered

>>67569771
If you know what chav means from your time on /into/ it's basically that.

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>>67570190
You're a retard by the way.
http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1004572#pgen-1004572-g001

>>67570494
And that proves exactly what I said regarding Uruguay, Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina. Get a grip on your neurons cause you're probably missing a couple billions of them already.

>>67570604
It proves that native admixture in south Brazil is even lower than in the southeast, so you're just spewing bullshit.

>>67570126

What's the hue for Amerindian?

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>>67570662
I didn't even mention the Southeast. I'm talking exclusive about UY, RS and SC, you literal ape. And even if that's a small percentage of admixture that still doesn't invalidade the fact that the majority of those populations are genetically mestizo.

>>67570755
índio, índia

>>67570777
>And even if that's a small percentage of admixture that still doesn't invalidate the fact that the majority of those populations are genetically mestizo.
I don't even know what to say anymore, this is denial at its best.

Just believe whatever you want asshat

who the fuck cares

I give my ass if any brazilian here has a single drop of indian blood

>>67571286
then you should give your ass now

>>67571406
t. Carlos Schübert Yamanaka

>>67571465
you really underestimate how much amerindian presence there is in Brazil m8

kuruminha a qt

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>>67565278
Português é a língua de navegadores e conquistadores, enquanto Tupi é a "língua" de macacos!

Devias era de nos agradecer por termos civilizado as terras Brasileiras!

>>67577025
até a cara dele é demoníaca

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>>67565278
>I met a trilingual Japanese Brazilian girl
I thought you guys are good at English too

>>67578750
yes we are good at languages, that's why it's so sad that we stopped speaking an historical language of our country :(

>>67565278

Native americans are ugly, short, annoying and just inferior culture

I don't get why this monkey love native americans so much.

Native Americans are ultimate scum. Way worse than niggers

http://g1.globo.com/mato-grosso/noticia/2016/04/indios-bloqueiam-rodovia-em-mato-grosso-e-cobram-pedagio.html

>>67581593
so you are completely apart from Brazilian culture?

>>67581784

What the fuck is "Brazilian culture"?

>>67581773
I dont get wht this monkey love whites so much.
Whites are ultimate scum. Way worse than niggers
http://m.oglobo.globo.com/brasil/cabral-preso-pela-lava-jato-acusado-de-liderar-grupo-que-desviou-224-milhoes-em-contratos-de-obras-20478201

>>67581914

>Cabral
>white

If whites aren't superior, how they defeated the whole Americas only with a bunch of pirates?

>>67581826
nothing there is nothing that we are famous worldwide for, nothing notorious we produced nor a history or a way we carry ourselves out for the rest of the world. We are just bland mindless slaves of globalist world without any culture of our own at all

>>67581987

>nothing there is nothing that we are famous worldwide for

Random stereotypes is "Brazilian culture"?

>>67581985
yeah they defeated them so much they learned their language and actually lived with them to the point of assimilation. Also I could post anyone that proves that you are just an autistic meme spouting faggot

>>67582074

They were literally wiped out of North America by less than 1000 American soldiers.

>>67582062
yes our culture is famous for random stereotypes. We dont have anything notorious or special in our country we are literally just monkeys who need to be civilized or genocided

>>67582140
yes and you can see how well their culture is assimilating anything foreign to their culture

>>67582146

>We dont have anything notorious or special in our country we are literally just monkeys who need to be civilized or genocided

Tecnically this is 100% accurate. Very, very few things are 100% Brazilian. We are a multicultural shithole with no identidy trying to be civilized.

>>67582217
So a think can only be considered a country's culture if it is 100% of that country? So Africa detains all mankind's culture dont they?

>>67582196

Spanish America is just filled of Native Americans because Spaniards don't give a shit to Spanish America. They didn't want to create new kingdoms like WASPs from UK.

Are there even any "pure" Guarani speakers left in Paraguay, or is it just jopara nowadays?

>>67582310
Oh they didnt, hence why they literally made the Mexican emperor pay their respects to the spanish crown or even how that the Aztects survived for more 3 generations under the Spanish Crown since because they didnt give a fuck about creating an empire with their culture that would breach the racial barrier and stand the test of time. Also the portuguese never EVER came en masse to Brazil to make their lives here. They never wanted to create a country amirite?

>tfw I was raised away from my people in Louisiana and didn't get to be French/English bilingual

I was robbed of my culture, one of the only true white cultures in America.

>>67568847
difficult languages keep of immigrants? I have bad news for you

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>>67565278

>Chile
>bilingual

toppest of keks, m8

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Could learning tupi give me access to kuruminhas?

>>67578921
you could relearn your historical language. I read in the part of East Prussia - now the Russian Oblast Kaliningrad - many people learn the language of the Prußen, a people that was conquered by the Teutonic Knights and Germanized

>>67581987
in Germany we think of you as friendly, laid back people who know to enjoy life and have sexy women

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European imperialists on sucide watch

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>>67584442
>tfw you can no longer do bandeiras and capture kuruminhas
>tfw you won't have an army of mamluks of your own blood

>>67584849
Deixa de fantasiar, ahmed, sabes muito bem que não durarias 15 minutos na mata.

>>67584913
eu literalmente vivo no meio do monte.

Claro que não duraria muito tempo por aí, a vossa bicharada é um pedaço maior que a daqui (para não falar do clima), foi mesmo só para propositos de roleplay

Is it true that Guarani is basically the primary language of Paraguay?