Why this continent is full of coups d'état? They can not

>>67542849
U.S.A intervention.

>>67542849
Shartia

>inb4 butthurt merryfarts shilling pro-CIA comments

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>>67542913
>>67542938
>>67542958
yep... thats a butthurt

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>>67542913
Not only that, to be honest.

>>67543071
yeah
but for meme questions, reply only meme answers

>>67543036
you are just a butthurt leftist, admit that.

>>67543113
The chart is verifiable facts regardless

>>67543036
cant handle the bantz

>>67542849
really? why dont you ask that to burguerland...

It's just another "you should be thankful you're not gommies now t.American" thread
It's yet another "everything wrong with our governments is 1000% caused by the US t.latinamerican" episode

>>67542849
It isn't. Most of them were because of the US during the Cold War. We have been fine ever since.

>>67543113
>he thinks that only leftists are against Shartia's Jewishness
Fuck off and stop trying to destabilize us.

>>67542849
U.S would fund literally any would be dictator as long they didn't align themselves with the USSR, that's why.

>>67543176
sabe pa

When was the last coup in latin america
>inb4 brazil

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>>67543131
they probably are, but a lot of judgement calls.

>>67543186
You are trying to destabilize yourself as we speak lol Protesters want another coup.

>>67543219
Don't reply to me or my countrymen ever again.

>>67543219
What are you trying to achieve with your post?

>>67543177
Not coup related but USA still actively conspires against us, forcing other countries to boycott our space program efforts and spying on the government and businesses.

>>67543219
WTF man

>>67543263
The impeachment wasn't a coup and only loud minorities want another impeachment/military intervention/Dilma to come back or shit like that.

>>67543263
Literally just a dozen of retards that were laughed off.

Meanwhile you have niggers destroying neighborhoods because they were funded by a literal jew.

>>67542913
We had 5 coups in the XX century and only one of them was made by USA

>>67543272
You are right. That's why I find brazilian ameriboos extremely funny.

>>67543321
Same with Argenitina. But they are still mad claiming that we supported the bloodiest of their juntas, not their friendly juntas or something like that.

>>67543263
last time i checked the americans are trying to destabilize the usa more then brs are trying to destabilize brasil

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>>67543263
>Protesters want another coup
This means nothing, retards are everywhere. There are people in the US who would like to establish a nazi dictatorship for example.

>>67543272
>spying on the government and businesses.
spying on the government? what does that even mean? and businesses? really?

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>>67543372
The 1960-1990 juntas were definitely the worst this continent ever saw from organized governments.

>>67543399
Yes, really. A 5sec google search would give you plenty of results for USA spy on Brazil.

>>67543413
Many people in Brazil think your junta wasn't that bad. No helicopter rides eh? And in Chile opinions differ about Pinochet.

>>67543399
Tapped communications, you know... NSA? Rings any bells?
And yes, you read that right: they spied on Petrobras.
Economical spying is arguably even worse than political spying, just detestable.

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>>67543399
You seem to have a short memory.

>>67543483
apart from killing some commies here and there and spending too much money could have been worse desu

>>67543372
> we supported the bloodiest of their juntas
Because you did?
>>67543483
>junta wasn't that bad
They mistake the Brazil from the past as a result from the military junta and not despite it. Solely thanks to it, we are probably a good two decades behind what we should be.

>>67543489
>>67543501

Wow all countries spy on each other, you don't have to be so burthurt.

>>67543483
>It's alright to overthrow democtratically elected governments as long as people get fuzy feelings about it 30 years later

>>67543483
Many people in Brazil are retarded. For the first decade we were doing extremely well, for the next we fell rockbottom. The military did everything to not let their power go until they were sure that all its imported figures would be protected for life.

>>67543548
>imported
important*

>>67543548
Sounds like some party hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>67543548
People are retarded everywhere. What are we arguing about in this thread? Read the OP. Do you have an answer for that besides blaming us as usual?

>>67543611
when was the last coup in southamerica

>>67542849
A lot of cultures based around romanticizing revolution. And US interventions exploiting that.

>>67543611
People blame Shartia because it's literally true, there's nothing to argue about.

>>67543611
When it comes to Brazil specifically, if it weren't for the military junta, we'd have gone from a monarchy to a republic to a virtually fascist dictatorship and back to a republic. That's exactly the same path Portugal went through.
The truth is, keeping the same government type through various generations isn't exactly easy. The US, the UK and Switzerland are exceptions, not the rule.

>>67543679
It was already said here, that Chile and Argentina alone had like 10 coups combined.

>>67543738
>the whole continent
>chile and argentina

>>67542849
cause your rotting them

>Going to an Asian/European country like Russia instead of one that basically protected you from European intervention for a hundred+ years

Got what you had coming to you, bunch of ungrateful cunts.

>>67543782
rare?

>>67543738
Brazil isn't really full of coups, there were only three I remember: the proclamation of the republic, Vargas, and the shitty one made in burgerland.

>>67543738
It was already said here that it's usually the latest and bloodiest dictatorships that the US just happened to get involved with.
Besides, you can't somehow get involved on murderous authoritarism and claim to have nothing to do with it later

>>67543738
And that's why Brazilians complain about this more than Argentines and Chileans. See >>67543719
Also, who knows what our culture would be like if it wasn't for the military junta, maybe we'd be far less politically polarized. And that alone would be marvelous.

>>67543825
>the proclamation of the republic, Vargas,
>coups

>>67543807
>protected you from European intervention
gee thanks god the british invasions weren't successful, we would be a shithole now!

>>67543782
Based
>>67543807
I might sound naive here, but I unironically think the UK would "protect" South America from foreign interventions in the 19th century if the US wasn't there.

>>67543857
They were against the will of the population and the law.

>>67543815
yeah

>>67543807
>this is what Americans believe

>>67543829
What is your point? Are we grading coups here? Many Chileans seem to be OK with Pinochet.

>>67543857
Both were coups, regardless of the later being for the greater good.

>>67543855
This left vs right dichotomy didn't even exist here until burgers came up and sharted all over the place, all people cared about before was money and how to make more money.

>It's the Americans fault that we kill each other
Poetry. Just like Niggers in Africa claiming the reason they're shit is because Europeans cut their hands off 90+ years ago.

>>67543915
Are you in Iran? Post a pic

>>67543921
Taking into account that 4 out of our 5 dictatorships didn't invlove kidnapping, torturing, and later drugging and dumping people on the ocean by the tens of thousands, I'd say that one that did was actually the shittiest.
Guess who backed that one?

>>67542849
They wouldn't do what we wanted even though it was in their best interest, so we had to enforce on them the correct policies they needed to grow and become better, freer countries.

>>67542849
>tfw no commie slaying authoritarian gf

>>67543894
it's funny how you say it ironically but look at Nigeria and South Africa and India and Guyana and tell me how british rule worked out for them

>>67543979
>kidnapping, torturing, and later drugging and dumping people on the ocean by the tens of thousands
True, just kidnapping, torturing, and shooting them in the back of the head.

So much better.

>>67543979
That was horrible no question about that.

>>67543952
whats the use ??

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>>67542849
>this swiss again

>>67543950
They wouldn't be in the position of killing/hunting innocent nationals if it wasn't for the financial support the US gave them.
Though I must admit Goulart was really naive for the most part.

>>67543921
Because they are retarded and it's usually old people that think the economic miracle done by Pinochet was real.

>>67543894
>>67544014
The UK never even thought about recolonizing any part of Latin America, they just wanted to sell their shit here.

>>67544104
Why Chile is almost developed and passed Portugal?

>>67543950
Except ours ended barely 30 years ago, and we are still trying to get unfucked by the regime's constitution

>>67544157
Foreign investors liked how long it is.

>>67544020
The other dictatorships didn't have such a high death toll, especially directly. I'll give you that by the 70s there were small armed groups that every once in a while kidnapped some high ranking officer, or killed a couple servicemen, but if anything, the stupidly large repression of the last dictatorship didn't help stop it at all. If anything it gave the impression that the military is not to be trusted. That's why they've got their budget slashed every few years and stuff like that.

But claiming that "we gud bois, america didndunuffin" is frankly insulting when we get to talk about fucked up dictatorships.

>>67544014
all of them full of either nig nogs, indians or amerindians.
I mean we're already a country of monoproduction, maybe brits would've used us to gain influence in South America and treat us like New Zealand was treated

If the Latin countries did not suffer a coup d'etat they would be equal to Venezuela, ally of Russia.

>>67544246
huh

>>67544116
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_invasions_of_the_River_Plate
brits saw the estuary of the Rio de la Plata as the most favourable location for a British colony in SA
it's rite there mane

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>>67544157
Because the neoliberal ideas were explored by the 90's governments, that's where most of our developments comes from

>>67542849
The Eternal Yank, pretty much.

>>67542913
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>>67542970
At the very least the Monroe Doctrine keeps it from being the US and other countries such as Russia.

>>67544265
Commies would come to power and turn their countries into another Venezuela or Cuba? Is that not obvious?

>>67544267
It was the southernmost point of the continent = cold

Brits see cold places as good places for colonization and hot places as bad

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>>67544210
>maybe they would've used """"""""us"""""""
PFFFFFFFT

>>67544246
Venezuela suffered coup d'etats and Juntas as well, just saying

>>67543399
Someone pls get the US spy docs for this idiot. Has been a while since I looked at it.

>Petrobras

>>67544246
I think we would have just reverted to a right-wing government desu

>>67544310
>rio de la plata
>southernmost point of the continent

>brits see cold places as good for colonization
>what is australia and nig colonies

dis is b8

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>>67544267
Then why did the UK set Uruguay free instead of just saying annexing it straight away? The US would be able to do absolutely nothing about it back in 1828.

>>67543524
We don't, burger.

Not even here in SA. We play with each other. Toys and stuff. ;3

>>67544390
The population of Australia is concentrated almost practically in the south

I think they have the same temperature of Porto Alegre and Buenos Aires

>>67544309
But that makes no sense at all, see >>67544349 and >>67544370

>>67543825

Wish we still had Vargas. =(

>>67544390
The Cape and the populated regions of Australia have a mediterranean climate, and all other regions didn't get a big amount of Anglo immigrants bar Rhodesia, which was only properly colonized in the 1890s.

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>>67543219
Y u post this

>>67544616
>all other regions
all other African colonies*

>>67543950
Not a thing to do with it.

And don't compare your fat asses to yurop. They are finally good people and you still have a long way to go.

>>67544527
>created populism and cult of personality
>governmental death-grip on the economy
no ty

>>67543979
Based argie.

>>67543950
actually they know that their number one problem is their own people and unfortunately it is hard to fix. but since they dislike us in general, they just love sticking it to the man when talking to us. it is ok.

>>67544447
Those invasions were a conflict between Spain and the British. Bourbon Spain getting wrecked by Napoleon back home.
When Lord Ponsonby (PBUH) freed us, it was to end a conflict between the United Provinces of the Rio de la Plata and the Brazilian Empire and to resume British trade in the region.
The United Provinces and the Brazilian Empire weren't getting wrecked like the Spanish

>>67544461
>>67544616
But if Australia has a similar temperature to us, then why would temperature be a problem?

the eternal gringo

>>67544707
I get what you mean. One thing is taking a colony from a crumbling European power, another is annexing a breakaway state.

>>67544657

Sorry if it triggers you m8, but I'll take state-capitalism over all else, anytime.

>>67544280
>Late 20th century
>South American countries switch to populist state-controlled economies
>Argies default, Venezuela falls apart, Brazil goes into deep recession
>States like Chile with liberal economies develop without major issues

A few years later in the 21st century...

>USA switches to a populist, state-controlled economy

Time to get out the popcorn lads.

>>67545029
It's like all both good and bad shit heppens here first, then spreads like glorious fire. We sad > we laugh > we repeat.

>>67545029
Eeeh... Our major default in 2001 was a default on the debts we got with the last dictatorship that was indoctrinated on liberal policies, but turns out they were terrible at managing the debt money so they kept refinancing their last debt. The 90's job crisis didn't help either.

Overall, right wing policies are shit if a retard applies them, same shit with left wing ones.

>>67545029
usa has its YUGE military budget to keep itself afloat though

>right wing policies are shit if a retard applies them
while left wing policies are always shit!

>>67545215
>left wing policies
"Left wing" policies such as welfare, universal healthcare, proportional income tax, other wealth taxes such as inheritance tax or property tax are used by every government in the world. Key is using them the right way.

>>67545286
when the 'right' way to use them is using them as little as possible, it makes me think those policies are inherently bad

Coup in Canada when?

>>67545286
Developed countries let the economy flow and they finance these things. The countries of Latin America (and several others) want to control the economy, so always fucking.

To finance good quality public health, for example, the country needs to be rich.

>>67544280
I'm pretty sure all of that was started earlier and it was just kept going later because it was actually working well.

>>67545286

They are necessary either way. It's merely a moral thing.

>>67545314

Fuck off. What do you propose? Let the poor die w/o health and the rich pay a 7% income tax?

>I would totally go for a 40% overall tax for everything as long as we manage to slay the theafy political class.

>>67545492
If we increase the taxation of the rich they send the money to another country

>>67545545

Forbid them from making money in here though. Either stay or fuck off.

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>>67545492
>y-you hate the poor!!!!1

>>67545560

Yep, and you still haven't told me what exactly you propose to improve the situation.

Got nothing to say? Shut it. ;3

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>>67542913

you'd all be commies without us and our bitchin' Monroe Doctrine

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>M-MUH EVIL USA
>we dindu nuffin, da evil USA be keeping us down and sheit

>>67545594

No. Our money would be spent in the country, our resources would stay in and we could finally forget about the rest of the world. ;3

Plus I imagine we would be hanging criminals and dirty politicians. I like this idea.

>>67545586
Get rid of leftist barriers on the economy, you don't even need to get rid of welfare and free shit.
Just let fucking businesses exist and stop trying to control the economy like some shitty banana republic.

>>67545586
I propose liberal policies that will favor economic growth and make fewer people poor and dependent on the state

wealth redistribution only gives temporary comfort to people who shouldn't be poor in the first place

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>>67542913
>>67542938
>>67542958
>>67542970
Well, maybe if you'd stop being fuggan gommies and weak enough for banana companies to bully you bunch, this wouldn't happen so often.

>>67545629
>we would be hanging criminals and dirty politicians
Oddly enough, Brazil and Russia are the only Top 10 countries without Capital Punishment, and it's unlikely the US, which has it, is the reason for such a gap.

>>67545665
>>67545682
This

>>67545665
Agreed. Now theres the "how" part.

>>67545682
^^^^^^ right there.

Wealth redistribution is the only thing keeping a nation from collapsing for stupid causes. If there is no such a thing then how exactly is a nation suposed to get better?

If no steps are taken to correct the gap we will invariably end up with an even worse class system then the one we already have. Makes the nation uglier and less appealing to it's own people, as the common man will not have ways to improve himself or his property.

> Please, if you are gonna propose something, get the "how" part too.

>>67545718

We can't simply impose it. Capital punishment is still inconstitutional and we do have a very long way to correct that.

In my mind, jail is not supposed to correct fellons, but to punish them.

>>67545752
Read below.

The socialist revolutions in Latin America were financed by USSR and are currently financed by Russia

Look at the Russia-Venezuela partnership

>>67545881
>below

>>67545881
If you let economy grow and stop meddling so much it benefits everyone. People with money invest and give better jobs to the poor. That's the basics of it, at least.
It's not a perfect system and it does need help from the goverment at times to stop things like colusion that hurt economy and the benefits it brings, but it has to be done carefully.

>>67545902
This.
The fact is that latin american politics are pretty easy to control. The power is still centralized as fuck and the governments were never stable. It's a never ending cicle.

>>67545902
this is true

>eternal rusky

>>67546016
The federalism of Latin America is false, the states are provinces without autonomy practically. The supreme court of the country is easy to control. Presidents have a lot of power and can not be dismissed by police investigations because of privileges of the system (privileged forum in Brazil).

We have compulsory votes and electronic voting machines (wtf wtf wtf wtf)

>>67545314
Nigger what?

>>67545983

The only thing I could accept for now would be the abolishion(?) of out import tax, or a reduction of it. Iss works, ICMS works(kinda).

Past that there really is no meddling in business.

Imagine we were to allow multinationals to come in, pay nothing and get 10 years of tax exemption? This shit actually happened in my city with a fuck ton of companies. Did it work? Quetionably.

You allow huge supermarkets to bring in their brands, create a few jobs and think it's a good thing. But each of those big ones you lose 4 or 5 small businesses in the area, costing the city revenue and sending the wealth your people should get abroad. Again: Is this actually a good measure in your head?

I'm not against foreign investment, but I am against extractionism. Very simply put, not really much to argue there.

>>67545545
The Rich will dodge taxes no matter what.
Hint it isn't low taxes that make a place a good investment for business but other factors like quality of public infrastructure, worker quality and education and low corruption and ease of business.

>>67546156
Finally someone who gets it, thank you leafriend.

>>67546129
>Past that there really is no meddling in business
Are you fucking stupid?
Brazil has one of the most interventionist governments in the world, it's one of the worst places to run a business and has one of the least competitive economies together with random african shitholes.
There's also a huge gap in income between public and private sectors, our "economy" is nothing but state-run shit which exists only to keep itself running.

>>67546156
I believe that for a place to achieve this he needs to decentralize power or have someone of good intention commanding the country with centralized power


A serious good thing to adopt federalism as the American

>>67546253
he=we*

>>67542849
Things get boring after a while.

>>67545492
>40% overall tax
That's right, make that 70%, that's so commie

>>67546231
>Are you stupid?

1- Point out those interventionist measures and explain how and why they are bad?

2- Yes, the wealth gap gap really makes a country a bad place to invest. Less people with the ability to purchase goods and services

3- So in your little zika head, allowing our country to be even more controled by financial private entities is the solution?

4- Again: I'll take state capitalism over anything. All I want is a little more foreign investments, not to allow them to buy the country.

>>67546299
Bet you could not defend it if pressed, fellow burger.

How do you think a nation works? Why do you think we have governments charging taxes? How exactly do you expect to get roads, public health and education, security, development and fun at the same time w/o high taxes?

Low taxes could work in a tiny country made almost entirely of rich people. Shit costs money, you know? And paying a private company to build huge stuff costs even more then the government doing it.

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>>67546377
>fun

>>67546325
One example: it takes several months of bureaucracy and taxes for simple building permits

The gap I'm talking about is between the public and private sectors, while the government elite enriches itself the private sector is left behind because it can't grow thanks to anti-competitive practices.

It already is controlled by financial entities, the difference is that these financial entities also control and are controlled by the government, they are one and the same.
A government-run business also has an unfair advantage since the government can just promote monopolies with bureaucracy, which would be illegal in a private-run business.

You are promoting exactly what you claim to be against: Elite control

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The state must offer health, safety (army, police, legal etc) and pavements. I think almost nothing else.

Schools and universities must be deprived so as not to have left-wing indoctrination. Low taxation, decentralization of power, let the city decide what is best. Extremely liberal constitution, letting the federative state or city create its own laws.

And removing shielding from politicians, the police can investigate any time they want with enough evidence.
If you analyze how the state came about, you will see that it came from a group of humans who wanted to protect themselves and divide tasks, nothing more.

I do not use any public service because they suck. Imagine if the tax was low and had full employment and high income? I choose the hospital and the school I want.

>>67546449
You national private elite actually benefit from the anti-competitive practices as well so it helps to parties. between those elites and the government it''s a I scratch your back you scratch mine.

>>67546462
>Schools and universities must be deprived so as not to have left-wing indoctrination.

nigga really underfund your education? That's a great way to hurt yourself on the global market.

>>67546449

We have a peoples of a nation exactly to deal with this kind of shit. This is why I said we still have a long way to go, we need to be able to understand how a nation works, what taxes are for and how to get shit done.

I can relate to what you said, I do. I just don't see it as a better position.

Picture it this way: We use to have classes teaching our children about the problems in the entire country, from midscholl to college. Someone could finish school in a couple of years, provided they had the ability to learn it all. Then we came up with x-rays, airplanes, credit cards and so on.

Now our school system demands children get to school and waste an entire year of their lifes learning little of actual importance, 16 times til they can finally attempt college. What have we done recently?

Yes this allowed private schools and "enterpreneurs" to exist in this sector. This is useless, I spent my entire life in private schools and I regret every single second of it. Only actually learnt things after I was done with it and my dad decided to teach me about history, math and politics.


After all this:

B4- Gubment controlled it, and it worked.

After- Private sector controls it, profits hugely from it, and it's a piece of crap.

Care to defend that same point again?

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>>67546610
Your rambling makes no sense at all, I'm done trying to educate you on basic economics and why Brazil sucks at it.
Just google about Brazil's bureaucracy and how it slows everything down to a crawl, makes everything more expensive for no good reason and how it facilitates corruption.

You are either just an useful idiot or a government employee.

>>67546462
Yes feloow hu3, and you should read this
>>67546610

Going in the right path, just not knowing we need to keep in eye on politics all the time. it's a thing we lost form school: People don't know what civic duty is.

>>67544458
you think

the ABIN has squads/informants basically in every relevant country in LA at least.

>>67546563
Brazil has a serious problem of indoctrination.

Liberals propose a proposal that the family has a money made available by the state and will choose a private school for their child. If the family is Christian they can put their son in a Christian school, if the family wants the son with a military education, they will put them in a military school, if they are leftists they will put them in a leftist school.

But the proposal is utopian because the state will never want to leave the monopoly of education.


To understand the gravity of the situation, the Brazilian State imposes a curriculum for private and public schools. Saw? Private!

Schools will move away from Greek philosophy and European history and begin to learn African and indigenous history, Cuban, Bolivian and Russian revolution. Much of the class will be about global warming, sex, gender idelogy, and leftism.


What does one draw from African history? wtfa

>you people are still arguing with the self proclaimed ''marxist-leninists'' from /luso/
LOL

>>67546610
>spent my entire life in private schools and I regret every single second of it.

I believe that a nation must have top notch public education system to truly have a good private education system too.

If you public is shit that mans that your private has no urge to perform better to diversification. You also either get private harmonies hustling to rip families or the top notch privateer schools only giving okay education which nationally is good but globally or regionally not impressive.

>>67546713
Neither.

And after that post you should understand what it comes down to: Who can cry louder. The peoples, the private sector or the government.

I've been posting a lot of shit i've seen with my own eyes, analyzed and read in my own city. Could be different in here(Confederate northeast ;3), we lost all the actual men we had in politics.

Realize that the only region that has not ever cryied about government expenses were us? Realize that now it's the very first time since Brazil became a republic that we are getting the first "big" government investment?

Getting into medicine next year, always had private health and education, always had gun around and always had been involved in local politics and sir, I can tell you that getting corrupt people in place is never easy, fun or rewarding. What I bitch about in here or anywhere else is the opportunities the common folk is provided with.

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>>67546774
There's a lot you can learn from that though.
Teaching global warming is pretty vital as well and not teaching kids that early you'll miss the most important part of instilling an environmentally conscious way of thinking.

I think you have a lot of paranoia about leftists.

>>67546795

What I hate is not even necessarily the private schools(ofc there's that degree of it) but the MEC. The rules for education in the country are the worst possible thing that could have ever happened to us.

I see people bitching about every single thing in the country, but for some reason no one sees how the yearly education system hurts ones ability to create and learn. Only there for profit and nothing else.

>>67546817
>Northeast
There it is, the literal hellhole region that leeched off all the other states.

>>67546845
Leftism here is very strong. When you live in such a place you go crazy.

Because of this the right is growing here.

You work year-round and 60% of your salary goes to the government.

>>67546888
Care to explain why everyother nation has had government investments, army presence and development? We haven't, never touched the subject because the premise of all this was: Develop part by part.

Now, how exactly are we leaching from people who have leeched from everyone else? Or you think ITA, IME, military gear industry and medical poles are all private and were built by your state alone? Poorfag, wish for another Vargas even more now.

>>67542849
Coupless since the 1930's. Feels good.

>>67546959
State*

>>67546959
Developed countries didn't apply a chokehold on the whole economy, simple as that.
You will have to provide an example of a socialist country ever working because nothing comes to mind.

Vargas actually damaged our long-term prospects really bad.

Brazilian politician was arrested in the hospital and transferred in stretcher to jail lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9x3dKy6uAI

>>67547029

First, I'm not a socialist, dipshit.

Second: Pay attention to our external debt. During vargas it was very little. I'd need to see my father to ask him for the charts. The country was pretty much self-suficient during his rule.

Who damaged the economy in the long term was Kubitschek increasing the country debt to awfle levels. Then we had Lula with his cuntish ideas of increasing gubment spending to unsustainable levels, driving it even further up.

I would very much like to be proven wrong in this, sadly til this day no one could.

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>all this US damage control
WEW
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>>67547175
Aren't you the guy calling for even more government control over the economy?
That's the definition of socialism.

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>>67547087
HAHAHAHAAHAHA DIE SCUM DIE SCUM

>>67547213

Nope, not the government control over it, but state-capitalism. That is where civic duty takes place.

If you like wasting your time watching movies and talking about parties like a little cunt then ofc you won't like what I'm trying to convey.

>>67546980
Headless too.

>>67547213
>That's the definition of socialism.

no not really. Many nations that aren't socialist have government that heavily control the economy.

>>67547214
could have handled this with a little more class.

>>67542849
zionist anglosphere and commies that did not want an emerging power

>>67547273
Fuck off with your unproven imaginary system then, Brazil is not your guinea pig.

>>67547298
Such as?

>>67547298
There is a large group of Brazilians who are very angry with the left and socialism

Just listening the word esquerda/esquerdista (left) already shakes the body

100% of Brazil's politicians are socialist / left-wing

>>67547372
We were going towards it, and it was working perfectly. Why u so bitchy, fellow hu3?

ITT: butthurt socialists/commie scum.

>>67548234
You don't need to be a commie to hate burger interventionism.
It's more about being a nationalist.

They occupy a lot of resources corporations from developing countries need.

>>67548273
>burger interventionism.
>2016
>they are spying on muh governement!!!
>that's why we are so shit
you need to stop beating the dead horse already, you butthurt commies.
wonder how i know you are commies?
cause i am spying on you :D

>>67548513

> Pretends he knows anything past a burger an cola.

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>>67546842
>>67543036
>>67542913
>Yfw you realize thhe US is the Evil Empire