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>Is the democratic process respected in your cunt?

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=448765974&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=mob-xs-no_src-reason_msg

Burgercucks need not apply
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who are you calling burgercuck?
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I thought about this possibility today

What would happen if the electors did that? Civil war?
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>>67258076
seriously?
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>>67257967
Yeah and SJW are going apeshit.
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>>67258127
yes, what would happpen?
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>>67258153
civil war, thats what they want
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>>67258153
that would be about the only thing i think would cause a real civil war in this country, which is why it will never ever happen
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>>67258076
>>67258153
Civil war probably.

The people who support Trump are the same people who vocally talk about over throwing tyrannical government, make up actual militias, own lots of guns.

It would not be pretty and nobody would want that. Which is why the loser has already conceded to the winner on the off chance that someone has that fucked up idea.
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>>67258278
>muh civil war
Never gonna happen
Delusional burgers
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>>67257967
They aren't done counting the vote idiot

Also pic related
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God I love Mencken.

100 years ago.
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>>67259219
>ahead in votes
>behind massively in ec
wtf is this system even
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>>67258076
Nothing because burgers are extremely lethargic and apathetic, ridiculously huge controversies and corruption cases happen there all the time but no one ever does anything, even the whole Occupy shit was tiny and fizzled away.
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>>67259810
For your consideration:

Say Trump won Nebraska or some shithole by a close margin, he gets all the electoral votes.

Now if Hilary wins Connecticut by a fucking landslide she still only gets that states electoral votes.

There are 50 mini elections in the larger election, you can win more of the elections while still losing the popular vote if you lose heavily in somewhere like Cali or New York that has a large population.
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>>67259810
The idea is that smaller states have a weight disproportional to their population so they don't get forgotten and big capitals don't have an unfair advantage in elections.
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>>67257967
We had a referendum for faggots marrying and adopting kids and commie and librul bastards shat on the majority because we went to vote unlike them. I sure hope the left gets fucked in the next election
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kek someone make one for trump to retake constantinople
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>>67260191
>caring about non-economic lefty stuff that doesn't affect your life
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>>67259810
Sweden has the same type of weighting, you fucking mong.
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>>67259810
Because otherwise 1 or 2 states would decide the election.
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>>67260465
does it? I had no idea lmao
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>>67260191
truly the creme de la creme of our nation :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oENOkrChK58
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>>67260483
This is why you need a test for citizenship before you just let any old brownskin come in and vote.
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>>67260483
I figured as much. I hope for your own sake you are still in school
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>>67260654
I don't remember ever being taught this in school
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>>67260481
>otherwise 1 or 2 states would decide the election.
because thats not exactly what happens now.
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>give proportionally more voting power to rural white states
>cram all the niggers and latinos into urban centers

crafty peoples, these americans
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>>67260847
Yeah, but it's not simply population centers bossing around rural municipalities. The states that are important are ones that flip every couple of elections
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>>67260928
Browns and blacks chose to live on those areas. Also there are more women in big cities and states like everywhere else in the world.
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>>67260481
Yeah like florida and ohio... hmm wait
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>>67261096
> Also there are more women in big cities and states

Really? That seems quite odd, I'd think it'd be 50/50 almost everywhere except in weird areas like conflict zones.

Do you have any sources for that?
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>>67258278
Does Trump even want that? After seeing a lot of the recent shots of him he doesn't seem too enthusiastic. Maybe he did run just for jokes and now the laughs are gone.
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>>67261146

Found one, couldn't post a link. Women in cities is a good rule of thumb, since women are more prone to vanity and needless glamour
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>>67261146
Because the only jobs in the middle of nowhere are things like cow fluffers, which men take, so women go to cities to find jobs
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>>67261146
Same phenomenon here. Women don't take jobs requiring manual labor, which are overrepresentert in he countryside, and move to the city for studies and tertiary jobs. My sources are in Norwegian, but plentiful.
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>>67261286
Apart from New York, which is quite an outlier indeed, it seems more like men preffering West coast cities and women prefering East coast cities other than anything else.

>>67261338
Must be shitty living alone in the countryside though?
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>>67261286
Why so many single men on the West Coast?
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>>67261455
>>67261478
West coast might be explained with mexican migration(?).
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>>67261338
We should drive for a more educated society for all genders.

None of this Bubba reckneck bullshit.
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>>67261517
Maybe, there are examples in countries like Pakistan where cities have a larger amount of younger single men who come looking for jobs now that I think about it.

But then, those pink spots in Texan border cities start to seem weird.
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>>67261196
Or maybe the guy is fucking tired as hell.
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>>67261542
We need feminism.
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Hillary has such a godawful ugly face and smile, yet I still want to eat her juicy pussy while burying my face in her ass and thighs.
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>>67261146
Women live in big cities because they cant find jobs in small towns since those jobs are manual labor or farmwork where they dont work in


Theres a male crisis in small towns because women are leaving.
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>>67261800
One would think that this would be a bigger problem in europe, where the countries are much more urbanised.

Surely, with as decentralised country as USA is, non-labour jobs aren't all concentrated in the big cities?
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>>67261478
Homos
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>>67259810
Essentially a method similar to parliamentary decisions on head of state
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>>67261800
It's not just that, as the other anon said city life is just more glamorous and thus more appealing to women than life in a small town
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>>67257967
Nothing's gonna happen; and if by some miracle it does remember that us that want Trump are the same people that respect and live by the 2nd amendment.
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>>67257967
>>Is the democratic process respected in your cunt?
Yes.
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>>67259051
It's happened before.
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>>67258076
Then the American King would intervene.
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>>67261927
In America there's thousands of miles between cities and small towns, in Europe you can live in a small town and still commute to a city for work
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>>67262433
>thousands of miles between cities and small towns
Wut.
Nearly everybody who can works in the city and lives in a suburb.
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>>67261665
Why would a Republican president want council from a Democratic president on the way out? Wouldn't he know this might angry his supporters?
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>>67262600
Every president elect meets the previous president to discuss the transition. This is not new, and he is not asking for advice.
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>>67262433
I guess it comes down to semantics what constitutes "big cities" and "small towns" really.

I thought USA wasn't that urbanised, but the data says it's 80%.

And then you look at the towns and cities and see that for example the 200th largest town in USA is about 130k, which is hardly a small rural town and probably has loads of non-manual jobs.

And looking at that map >>67261286...

I think that besides the New York-Washington conglomeration, the differences between genders are rather small and it's just that finman's meme.

I mean, if you eye it, the fraction is 1.5% for Washington.
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>>67262600
You have been visiting /pol/ way too much, elections are not a fucking civil war.
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>>67260465
Oh really
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>>67262731
He said "for council".
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>>67262830
But Trump made it legal to call black people the N word.
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>>67262737
Here is an another map. Blue means more men.

Its a similar result
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>>67263082
>all those single mothers in the south
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>>67263213

that's niggers and trailer trash
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>>67260409
Perversions and mental illnesses should not be supported

>>67260531
Dol mi visi za klerikalce
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>>67263213
90% niggers, not even memeing
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>>67260654
This is not true though. A vote in Lappland is as much worth as a vote in Stockholm. I don't know what sources you have, but please link, because I've looked, and come up with shit-all.

If you don't post a source I will assume you did aswell.
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>>67259810
It's to protect the states against the feds
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>>67263266
He's talking out of his ass. The only issue we have with proportionate representation is that parties with less than 4% won't get a single seat in the Riksdag. This means that some parties might get an extra seat they wouldn't have had otherwise.
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>>67260465
It doesn't, I don't think any country in Europe has the same style of federalism that the US has
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>>67262503
>>67262737
I was referring to tiny places surrounded by countryside, not suburbs. Here we'd call them villages but I don't think you'd call them that in the US. Obviously in towns > 20k there'll be enough non manual jobs so that the ratio is even
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>>67263082
life in nevada must be pretty bad
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>>67259810
It's a system designed to give states with low populations a bit of over-representation so that highly populated areas can't completely dominate the election.
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>>67261542
This toxic identity politicking is exactly what got Trump elected in the first place.

Even if there were zero White people in the USA we'd have gotten a Carlos Slim as president with this kind of off-putting rhetoric from those who suppose themsepves to be the good guys.
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>>67261124
See
>>67260974
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>>67263578
I only know of the UK system in which the country is split into 650 constituencies. Winning in a constituency mean that party effectively gains 100% of its votes. It messes the proportionate representation in the House of Commons up big time.
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>>67261478
Mexican dudes working to send money back to their families south of the border.
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>>67259810
States with bigger populations get electoral college votes, if a few hundred thousand people had felt the Johnson in the red states she would have won. I mean come on Sven, you know how vote-splitting works.
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>europeans rise up in masses and overthrow entire dynasties because they used their taxes to build a castle
>behead every member of the government
>all with nothing but sticks and pitchforks
>americans get fucked over by billions of tax-money every week
>proofs for that happening are openly available to everyone
>houses are filled with military equipment
>shitpost online about how they could overthrow the government any moment now while jamal throws their sister on her bed and
>have the audacity to call anybody cuck
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>>67263771
>while jamal throws their sister on her bed
No need to project your problems onto other Hans, your right wing revolution will come in due time
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>>67263771
>tfw you are from europe, where history comes from
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>>67263532
Yeah, I was sort of expecting that.

The 4% rule is morally a bit unfair, but it keeps shit like "The Donald Duck Party" and hopefully soon Kristdemokraterna out of the Riksdag, so I completely understand why it's there.

Thanks for clearing up the shit with the smug norwegian, now I can leave this thread with closure.
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>>67263771
your forgot throwings nobles out of windows, that's a fun sport
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>>67257967
A few elected legislator here are going to lost their seats soon as government see them as unfit.

>>67263676
>>67260974
you're looking at the changes between each elections, but if contribution from sone of those flyover states in between are not projected as disproportionate as they're now, more swing state can turn red but demos can still get elected. Effectively speaking those rural area give GOP a larger ground than demos' for them to compete on.
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America just shouldn't be a single country, federalism was a mistake.
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>>67263845
It's where history is gonna die unless you lot and the Germans don't sort your shit out
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>>67258286
That Jewish name...
As usual, Jews behind "democracy".

Why people cry about electorate vote? Is fair to states with few people. Without it, some politicians would not even bother visit them.
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>>67263771
This post could be good if it was from any country other than fucking Germany or Sweden, you guys are exactly like burgers with your cuckness.
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>>67263881
Sorry for derailing your argument, but I recently watched a Ted-Talk about flag design, and goddamn, the flag of Hong Kong is fucking beautiful.
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>>67263771
>Europe was a chaotic hellhole with death and violence en masse
>America was a fledgling stable republic that prides itself on peaceful transition of power

One sounds like civilization, the other sounds like Africa
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>>67263967
>Why people cry about electorate vote?
Because they don't understand how federalism works and think that it's anti-democratic to prevent Cali from cucking the nation every 4 years
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>America was a fledgling stable republic that prides itself on peaceful transition of power
Like the civil war :^)?
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>>67264085
>The American Civil war killed less people than the first month of WWI
Really makes you think.
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>>67264085
>the South's autistic shitfit is representative of the entirety of our history
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>>67264085
I think he meant the 1812 war.
Well... maybe the civil war.
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>>67264164
1812 was a war with Britain, not an internal power struggle
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>>67264152
>now he's distancing himself from the "bad half" of his country
Doesn't sound very peaceful to me m8, aren't you guys in an ideological war right now?
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>>67264055
Well it is stupid. One of the pillars of the foundation of modern democracy is that everyone gets one vote that is treated equally whatever employment, education or place of residence you might posess.

Suddenly your vote is worth more if you live in a low-pop state.
Since I assume you haven't gotten to vote in any other system, you're used to your way, but it looks ethically stupid to many from outside.

I see the pros and cons of the system, but in the end, it feels like a convoluted way to treat peoples worth inequally.
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>>67263871
>your forgot throwings nobles out of windows, that's a fun sport
Throwing commies from helicopters count as an spot?
Because we could get second place after Chile.
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>>67264202
I live in the bad half, slavery was just a stupid issue to fight a civil war for

>aren't you guys in an ideological war right now?
No? The only division is between the flyover shithole states and the liberal shithole states and even that is a meme
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>>67263967
>>67264055
Those states with few people and straight line border should just get merged together
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>>67264258
>One of the pillars of the foundation of modern democracy is that everyone gets one vote that is treated equally
Except that the people aren't the ones who choose the president, the states do. It's intended to protect the states from federal encroachment so we don't get fucked up situations like the feds owning 90% of the land in Nevada

The US isn't a democracy btw
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>>67264258
A country with a living king talking about democracy...
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ITS NOT FAIR
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>>67264442
>the news networks
>even though they conspired with her campaign and the DNC to deny Bernie the nomination
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>>67263771
It is tyrone, not jamal.
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>>67264310
You crazy m8? They have different taxes. Now days one can simple go to another state and setup his company.
>>67264442
This remember me when people laugh at Trump for calling the pools rigged...
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Are americans using the same presidental election voting system they used in the 1780s?
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>>67264310
"No."

I love my fellow flyovers, but no
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>>67264557
What they supposed to do? Vote using facebook with shares or thumbs up?
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>>67264557
No
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>>67264557
>1780s
>articles of confederation in full effect
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>>67264580
>>67264533
The current situation look like some gerrymandering...
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>>67264434
He's basically a walking commercial-banner for Sweden, that's it.

I fucking despise our royalty though, and can't wait to get rid of them.
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>>67264661
It isn't

>>67264644
Wasn't the Constitution ratified in ~1783 though?

>>67264678
>I fucking despise our royalty though
What have they done?
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>>67260062
I believe that electoral college has been implemented to prevent the tyranny of the majority? If the president was elected by plain popular vote, it would pretty much always be decided by the 10 largest cities alone.
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>>67264715
>>67264644
Never mind, that was the Treaty of Paris
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>>67264678
They actually have some power? or at less some private army?
Looks like just some fancy piece of history.
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>>67258076
They're probably not allowed to anyway given the laws of most states.
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>>67264258
The ideas and problems of America's breadbasket will never be understood by the coasties, they will always vote in their special snowflake interests. If we used the popular vote we would be run by the kind of people who want you to be sued for using the "wrong" pronouns. Direct democracy would only work in much smaller countries (like Switzerland) but we can't have that because "muh union".
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>>67263578
For the Belgian Federal elections the 3,5m walloons have as much power as the 6,5m flemings
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>>67264763
Yep, i would no be surprise that America lose his farm power house if the system change.

We had that in Brazil too, we call it "Republica Café com Leite". Which could be translate as Milk and Coffee Republic, where only 2 states chose the president.
Luckily it all change when south seize the power.

Don't forget kids, laws and the constitution are just a piece of paper. But instead of write it with paint, you write it using bullets.
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>>67264557
Not quite, there was significant amendment in 1804 so that the President and Vice-President had to be clearly differentiated.

>>67264839
This, as well as the third parties' support being evaporated and states not having uniform suffrage standards, is partially why it's a bad idea to get rid of the Electoral College, at least if we replace it with a direct popular vote.

The main reason the Founding Fathers instituted the College in the first place was however with the expectation that each State would send its best men as electors to vote for the President, mainly to prevent the average American from voting ironically enough a potential destablizer such as Trump.
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>>67264943
You use a different method to balance state/provincial with federal power, don't you?

>>67265000
>the President and Vice-President had to be clearly differentiated.
Stupid fucking amendment in the name of ""democracy"" even though the VP was supposed to hate the president and cuck him in the Senate so that they can't interfere with anything. The same thing happened with the 17th amendment
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>>67264798
That's pretty much it, honestly. The king is our mascot and has some ceremonial duties.

Kingdom of Sweden sounds way cooler than Republic of Sweden tho.
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>>67264715
>What have they done?
They live on tax money, contributes shit-all, and is just a constant reminder of the shitty old way to rule a country.

The whole fucking media oulets also break down as soon as our little baby princess buys new shoes (paid by us).
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Fucking hell fuck liberals so god damn much
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>>67264943
And the 76,328 German Belgians don't have any power whatsoever.
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>>67264798
They have absolutely nothing, but they represent Sweden, so they go to diplomatic parades to other countries and shit. They have absolutely no actual power at all though, it's not like the UK.
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>>67264981
Elections are decided by popular vote here senpai, no one seized shit.
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>>67265151
>Kingdom of Sweden sounds way cooler than Republic of Sweden tho.
indeed...
>>67265223
Why not?
I bet even the immigrants can vote in Belgium.
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>>67265080
The reason the 12th amendment (the one we're talking about) was passed was the Election of 1800, which was as follows:
>The election exposed one of the flaws in the original Constitution of the United States. Members of the Electoral College were authorized by the original Constitution to vote for two names for President. (The two-vote ballot was created in order to try to maximize the possibility that one candidate received votes from a majority of the electors nationwide; the drafters of the Constitution had not anticipated the rise of organized political parties, which made it much easier to attain a nationwide majority.) The candidate with the most electoral votes would become President and the candidate with the second most would become Vice President. The Democratic-Republicans had planned for one of the electors to abstain from casting his second vote for Aaron Burr, which would have led to Jefferson receiving one electoral vote more than Burr, making Jefferson President and Burr Vice President. The plan, however, was mishandled. Each elector who voted for Jefferson also voted for Burr, resulting in a tied electoral vote. The election was then put into the hands of the outgoing House of Representatives, which, after 35 votes in which neither Jefferson nor Burr obtained a majority, elected Jefferson on the 36th ballot.


In any case I agree with you on the 17th amendment. We're not supposed to be a democracy. We are a republic, a difference that is subtle but oh so important.
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>>67264557
Yes, it should be changed in some way imo, and no I did not support Hillary I just think it should be changed regardless. I don't think we should go direct democracy as then it would just fuck low population density people but maybe some compromise like having a Canada-like system with the alternative vote system, where if who you voted for loses and there was no majority your vote goes to who you rated as your 2nd choice and so on.

>>67264661
It is probably the complete opposite of gerrymandering, it is literally straight up squares. The only state that is probably even remotely gerrymandered is West Virginia, and that is due to the events that created it.
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>>67265266
Dude, I was talking about Old Republic.
And also, of course we seize the power. Do you think that or ex president would no be ruling the government if we didn't had gone to the streets to ask for her head?

Bolsonaro 2018.
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>>67265347
>I don't think we should go direct democracy as then it would just fuck low population density people but maybe some compromise like having a Canada-like system with the alternative vote system, where if who you voted for loses and there was no majority your vote goes to who you rated as your 2nd choice and so on.
This. Remove FPTP before getting rid of the Electoral College.
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>>67265189
The UK gets a lot more tax revenue from tourists who come to see Liz. Are there not any muh hurritage people who come to see the king?

>>67265347
>maybe some compromise like having a Canada-like system with the alternative vote system, where if who you voted for loses and there was no majority your vote goes to who you rated as your 2nd choice and so on.
He was talking about the Electoral College though, not FPTP which is pants on head retarded
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>>67265482
No.

He's a meme on Reddit. That's probably his biggest impact on the world.
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>>67265677
That sucks. I guess it would be different if he was politically active
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>>67265482
I know I answered his question that the electoral college is pretty much unchanged beyond the amount of ECV's per state. That part was what I want for the US, I think that that and Americanized version of Canada's (for example they are Reps rather than MPs and they elect the head of state rather than PM) as well as having alternative vote over FPTP. There would have to be massive district redrawing with no gerrymandering (non partisan committee) and there might have to be a way to incorporate state's rights into it to make the small states and swing states into it.
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>>67265778
>the reps elect the head of state
That would mean that the high pop states would elect the head of state every time

I don't see the problem with just leaving the EC and switching to an alternative vote so that third party candidates are actually viable
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>>67265722
No, having any inherited political power at all is insanely dangerous.

It's perfectly good that he has no power at all, I just don't want him at all.
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>>67265897
Yeah, this and nonpartisan redistricting are the two biggest ""quick"" fixes we can do.
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>>67265347
>>67264715
>At the beginning of 1888, the Democrats under presidentGrover Clevelandproposed that the four territories ofMontana,New Mexico, Dakota andWashingtonshould be admitted together. The first two were expected to vote Democratic and the latter two were expected to vote Republican so this was seen as a compromise acceptable to both parties. However, the Republicans won majorities in Congress and the Senate later that year. To head off the possibility that Congress might only admit Republican territories to statehood, the Democrats agreed to a less favorable deal in which Dakota was divided in two and New Mexico was left out altogether.
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>>67264310
That could only happen if they all consent to the merger, which will never happen.
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>>67265998
They aren't gerrymandered in such a way that it affects the presidential vote in a significant way now. Maybe it was significant in 1888, but >70% of those people are Republican
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>>67260974
Why is it democratic that candidates only have to appeal to the 8 people who live in Iowa and Ohio and the loonies in Florida? If you don't live in a swing state your vote is literally worthless, how is that possibly democratic?
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>>67267436
>how is that possibly democratic?
It's not meant to be, the US isn't a democracy
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>>67261286
>that big blue dot in North Carolina

FUCKING GET ME OUT OF THIS SHITHOLE
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>>67261286
Women move to cities because it offers them more sexual selection. That's literally it.

It's also why they vote for more immigration.
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>>67267542
Your union needs to die, it's too big and unrepresentative. I'm not surprised California are going to vote on independence, and I wouldn't be surprised if before 2025 the entire west coast has seceded
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>>67267750
Mind reminding me how things went the last time a group of countries tried to secede?
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>>67267750
Don't really care about what the niggers of Europe have to say about my country if I'm being honest
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>>67258076
civil war 2: electric boogaloo
it's technically legal but it's never happened before and nobody want it to start any time soon
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>>67267750
Lol, California can secede if they want.

They'll try to instate Communism and then realize all the farmers that they've been shunning politically all these years moved away for better prospects a long time ago.

Maybe they'll survive on tourism, and all the LAliens can ratchet that crime rating even higher stealing from the tourists.
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>>67267730
>women, who primarily work in the service sector, are only leaving my small town in the middle of nowhere with its no doubt thriving service sector because they want to find more dudes to sleep with instead of me
>they also vote pro-immigration, even after marriage, because we all know what every American woman wants is a strong virile manlet Mexican
America's cuck fantasy is real Goddamn believe the memes
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>>67267750
>I wouldn't be surprised if before 2025 the entire west coast has seceded
i can only hope
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>>67267750
As an Arizona fag, all I can say is:

Good riddance.
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>>67267786
You lot could do with a civil war
>>67267804
>60%
>>67267814
They'll likely survive off their massive amounts of natural resources, huge service economy and ridiculously high value of cultural exports. If not they can always export their shit wine to the rest of the country since the rest of yous can't make it for shit
>>67267852
>>67267899
Post lots of memes about it and make it a reality
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>>67267974
>le 60% face
Doesn't change the fact that no one is going to take policy prescriptions from a country that can't keep its unemployment rate below 20%
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>>67267974
Can you survive off of a service economy?

I thought a country had to produce actual physical capital to get anywhere.

No idea why Californian wine is considered an export. I've had it and it's mediocre at best.
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>>67264763
If there was no EC, politicians would completely ignore the countryside and the flyover states, and focus only on big urban areas. Commiefornia would literally get half of the total campaign time.

EC makes sure every state, and local population, has a say.
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Why are Anglos so shit at democracy?
>UKIP gets 12% of votes, gets 1 seat out of 650
>Hillary gets more votes than Trump, Trump becomes president
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>>67268444
Maybe it's because neither the UK nor the US are democracies
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>>67263011
Council on how to successfully transition into the white house.
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>>67267750
Thank God
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>>67268444
I agree that the British FPTP system is retarded, but the election system makes perfect sense. Sure, Clinton got a few more votes, but Trump's popularity is WAY more spread out across the country than is Clinton's.
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>>67267974
>their massive amounts of natural resources
They're missing one in particular
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>>67268898
DELET THIS
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>>67257967
But she already conceded.
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>>67268444
Do you understand the terrible implications that can come up with popular vote? The US is very split geographical and demographically, this election in particular you have the vast majority of people in major cities voting Hillary while rural areas and everywhere else voted Trump. Urban areas have the largest concentration of people, but don't represent the country as a whole, quite the opposite they can often be isolated bubbles of politics that don't influence their surrounding areas. (See the maps of voting by county and look at all the blue counties completely surrounded by red) There has to be some compromise to prevent the country from turning into some clusterfuck where 5% of the land imposes its will on 95% of the land. Just look at New York, NYC enacts laws made specifically for NYC that fuck over the rest of the state because there is such a huge difference in governing a city like that than governing a typical county.
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>>67267974
>You lot could do with a civil war
Of course, since that worked so well last time.

>>67268898
Topkek
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>>67261665
he's gonna stay tired. no president has ever enjoyed being president. it's why they all look like they age 10 years in only 4
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>>67269767
Actually only after WW2, did US Presidents start getting affected by Old Age.

The Founding Fathers don't count. They didn't have health care and the only reason George Washington never smiled was because his teeth were literally fucked hard so yeah.
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>>67257967
>muh popular vote
kek, get fucked. no use crying about that now. should have changed that retarded voting system of theirs a long time ago.
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Why do I get a feeling that the white voters who elected Trump will be the ones responsible for low approval rates?
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>>67269865
What if Trump does that?
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>>67259810
its a checks and balances system to spread out the power among states. If it wasnt this way literally all of our politics would be decided by heavily populated states
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>>67269903
does what? change it? as I said, that should have been done a long time ago
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>>67269903
That's not even remotely how it works.
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>>67269903
>The President having anything to do with Constitutional Amendments
Come on, that's Elementary School Civics-tier
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This
>>67269937

and I think it makes campaigning more of a chess match and less of wrestling match (it's already bad enough).
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>>67269937
This. Same with why the Senate is 2 to a state regardless of population.
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>several republican electors in the rockies where trump won switch to one of their meme candidates like McMullin
>trump falls below 269
>house goes to vote on who should be president
>republican majority chooses a more typical republican president
>statues of kek crumble

the house's face when
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>>67257967
>(((Elijah berg )))
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>>67270089
>republican majority chooses a more typical republican president
They choose from the 3 candidates with the most electoral votes
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>>67270089
That would (might, really) work once, but destroy the GOP forever.
I say give it a shot.
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>>67270089
>several republican electors in the rockies where trump won switch to one of their meme candidates like McMullin
I thought faithless electors were prohibited by law in most States.
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>>67270089
their only other choices would be hillary or mcmullin. the former has more qualifications but is unanimously hated among the right, while the latter is a right-leaning literal who

mite b interesting to see where it all lands
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>>67270206
here's the states with laws against faithless electors (fines and shit). Last time we had a faithless elector was in 2004 when someone mixed John Kerry's name with his vice presidential nominee
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>>67269992
>>67269973
What if Trump says he's changing it and bringing in his supporters in the military to force it?

This has happened before in world history. We have liberals protesting. Just imagine if liberals had guns.
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>>67270352
>fines
Oh no, not that.
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>>67270352
>fines and shit
Do they at least have a big fine, or render the ballot invalid?

>>67270381
Then that's not legitimate and would be highly unconstitutional. I don't believe for a second Trump would descend into that level of flagrant disrespect of the Constitution.
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>>67270386
>>67270421
Michigan and Minnesota declare the electors vote void if it doesn't match what people voted. However in the 155 times its happened, the laws were never enforced
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>>67270421
He said he'd commit war crimes by targeting terrorist's families. It won't surprise me if he got his military supporters and declared himself a king.
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>>67270509
>declared himself a king
You want to see how fast the "don't tread on me" crowd turns on a Republican? Attempt to return the country to a monarchy.
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>>67270381
What if Trump declares himself Mr. Universe and decides to gas every retard who didn't pay attention in middle school social studies?

This has happened before. Just imagine, you and everybody in your idiot bubble would die.
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>>67262195
explain
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>>67259728
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

He knew. He always knew.
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>>67259728
Never heard of him before, but guy seems pretty based. Been giggling at his quotes page for a good time now.
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>>67273206
*Republicanism
There's nothing wrong with direct Democracy
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>>67275809
Plenty wrong, actually.
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>>67261124
Hilary could have won florida and still lost.
Our current system allows other states to be relevant and to matter.

If we had a European system places like New Hampshire would not matter whatsoever. California alone has about 10% of the population.
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