>support for a European army just keeps gaining momentum

>>67203068
what else is going to protect them

>>67203068
I hope it does.

If it happens, I'll gladly join it and make a career out of it as an officer.

>>67203068
If Trump really disbands NATO, it will become a necessity.

That's the bed you made.

>>67203068
Who the fuck cares you live in a desert island in the middle nowhere

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>>67203068
>Growing need for metal industry
pretty good

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now the most important question : will we have cool uniforms again ?

>""""""""""european""""""""""""" army

You mean the French army under the control of German generals

>>67206048
Trump isn't going to disband it. NATO is very important for the American defense industry. They sell a lot of weapons and other military tech to NATO countries because NATO like to use similar platforms for better cooperation and so no.
Take the F35 planes for example, one of the reasons we bought it is because we're a NATO member, we're gonna train and integrate with other NATO forces on missions.
As the businessman that he is, I don't think Trump will shut down NATO and harm their own defense industry.

>>67206258
well I pretty much agree, it's just further proof that Trump is a loudmouth idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3cFiWtcT4k

The minorities are pretty chill here I don't mind them.

>>67206252
WE NEED NUKES

>>67206258
This, i don't see why he'd do it exactly ?
Just give away your power for free ? Because you have personal sympathy for Putin ? That sounds crazy

What i actually read about this btw, was that he threatens to leave because he wants the smaller members to pay 2% of GDP like they promised insted of 0.5% like they do. Which is reasonable. Pay denbts everyone.

>>67203068
Is France for a EU army? Because they're the only relevant ones in terms of military on the continent. A EU """"army"""" will just be a glorified peace-keeping force.

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>>67206336
>Trump is a loudmouth idiot
>the tears
I'm so fucking glad he won

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>>67206680
We don't know what France is for yet, we're voting in april-may 2017

We'll most likely elect Sarkozy again and this guy is le happy merchant personified. So yes probably, he'll do all that usual pro-EU shit like he did last time

>>67206258
European countries should not buy American military technology, it's not like there aren't companies in Europe that do the same shit.

>>67206258
He doesn't care, he's a fucking meme, he will grab NATO by the pussy.

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>>67203068
EST EUROPA NUNC UNITA

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>>67207104
pls buy the f-35b

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>>67206131
Ohoho oy vey, we're neutral we'll export to anyone willing to buy

>>67207104
I think unifying the military industry is more important than unifying the actual army. The French, Germans, Swedes and Bongs (rip) have based industries and we could easily outperform the US and Russia if we wanted to.

>>67203068

It only makes sense now that Murrica has gone full NASCAR & Caudillo Republic.

But anyway we'd need to sort out first the common and independent defense and foreign policy. But that's going to be a pain in the ass with most of eastern yurop being full 'tard Nascar too

>>67207104
They should buy whoever sells the best equipment for the best price. Why the fuck should we care if it's European or not?

>>67207397
Germans have good gun systems
French have something in the air department
Swedes have alot of good stuff, but I think their current govt is limiting them

>>67207397
fuck off commie

>>67209877
Because Europe is perfectly capable of developing its own equipment instead of feeding the US economy

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>>67209877
>le free market will fix it
Fucking Anglos I swear.

If American tech is better that means we need to improve ours, not buy theirs. Military suppliers have leverage over their customers as well as an advantage in conflict (not that it will come to that)

>>67210118
DARPA will always have the best military equipment


what europe should do is gain better ground in the economic war being fought now

even britian realises this, they are negotiating with India as we speak

>>67210108
Well then go ahead, the playing field is fair and open for competition. Nobody is going to give preference to inferior, more expensive products just because of some vague feeling of pan-continental solidarity though, that's not how it works.

>>67210118
>our
It's not "ours", I don't give a flying fuck about kraut or French industry and have no reason to give them preference over anybody else just because of muh yurop.

It's not "yours" either, mind you, but please keep using the EU as a crutch to feel mildly relevant.

>>67203068
>>support for a European army just keeps gaining momentum

we voted leave because of this, among other things

>>67203068
Well i hope it does.

>>67210500
>have no reason to give them preference over anybody else just because of muh yurop.
You have your own industry you tard, also you're not Yurop anymore

>It's not "yours" either
I was going to write "French, German, Swedish, Polish and Austrian" but then I realised that was retarded because it's perfectly obvious I'm talking about Europe.

>>67206962
>We'll most likely elect Sarkozy again
We vote stupidly but not THAT stupidly

>>67206464
>he wants the smaller members to pay 2% of GDP like they promised insted of 0.5% like they do.
>like they do
>implying France isn't just as guilty of this as everyone else

>>67210693
>you're not Yurop anymore
The EU is not Europe

>>67207545
To be honest governments like ours want EU army because of the Russian butthurt belt. They will probably whine about evil Germany or France having too much say in it, but won't stop anything

>>67206258

>Trump
>Making sound business and political decisions

He makes fun of war vets, touched down in scotland to congratulate them on Brexit, and once tried to sell poor quality yet extremely expensive 'gourmet' steaks at an electronics store.

>>67211009
Yet he's still somehow rich, so he can't be total shit.

>>67211161
You'd be rich also if your dad were a millionaire, Berlusconi is richer than Trump

>>67203068
Why not?

>>67203068
Who the fuck cares you live on a dry piece of rock with no resources and only heat and death and spiders

EU army is a terrible idea, it will be used to stifle resistance in member countries.

This was already done in ex Yugoslavia with the police force for example - just get police from Kosovo to work in Croatia, or get police from Serbia to work in Slovenia, etc. It makes them not give a shit about the locals and just blindly follow orders no matter what they're ordered to do.

So for example you'll get Spanish troops fucking over people in Greece, Bulgarian troops fucking over people in Germany, and so on.

>>67210731
Who then ? I don't see the PS winning
Nor the FN

Whoever wins the LR primaries wins and i bet it's gonna be Sarkozy isn't it

>>67210757
When people say common European military they mean the EU.

>>67203068
The whole world will witness our glory.
Bright days await us, brothers!

>France needs cheaper Uranium
>get drafted into the new EU army
>get sent into a conflict in central Africa fighting child soldiers and durkas
>spend another year guarding the mines
>get a cheap medal made in china and a piece of paper that thanks you for defending europes borders

Crazy times ahead
Hope I'll be too old for conscription before they make this happen

Poland and Germany have one sumbarine command which means poles can send german subs to fight and vice versa, in case of a war.

Also Poles and Germans traded command of some troops.

Imagine, if despite the butthurt, we could start uniting our army(even under Kaczynski) than what will happen now. A united EU army without leftists running it would be a monster, if usa decides to redefine nato than it's the end of their hegemony and a start of a new era and powershift.

>>67211161
you think everyone on wallstreet is smart?

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>>67214277
>what is the difference between police and the army
>my shitty experience as a member of yugoslavia matters
you low-tier italy dumbfuck

>>67218874
Not an argument

>>67214277
THIS

>>67211161
Is he? He never released his taxes and he folded on a legal case about a book which claimed that he wasn't really rich. He refused deliver the evidence to court for some reason. He would have won the case but didn't want to deliver the proofs for some reason.

>>67214277
It will be used to stifle your mom's orgasms while she rides my dick.

>>67218874
Do you trust your Algerian cops when you go on your Paris protests?

Didn't think so.

Don't worry Europe, I heard those Germans are pretty hand with armies.

>>67203068
Why do you even care living on the other side of the globe?

>>67214277
And thats bad how?

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>>67219074
>the brave slovenian rushes to defend his slavic brother
EVERY TIME

>>67219524
Not an argument

>>67214277
because we totally don't have a history of repressing our own countrymen

Our army will protect you from any threat. Just let us in

>>67206258
>Trump isn't going to disband it.

Of course not. But members are going to have to increase military spending instead of letting America shoulder all the cost.

It's perfect. Frees budget to MAGA, keeps selling shiny american-made killing toys to allies.

>>67219630
Sure, just look at how it was done in communism or fascism. The troops doing the actual oppression were always rednecks from some bumfuck village, lording over the peaceful people in a bigger town. Very similar principle on a smaller scale.

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>>67206216
never ever

>>67206216
the french always had very stylish gear

The British were the only ones blocking it. And they are leaving.

>>67221780
Are they still blocking it because it's apparently jammed atm.

>>67203068
Nah, EU is too scared of Russia to let the Americans go

>>67222027
yes, they actually stated that while they are still in the EU they will do their best to prevent it

>>67203068
Why do you care?

>>67206252
To lose 2 WW in a row? no thnx i'll stick with ours who led us to more victory than anyone else on this planet. Uneducated little brit.

>>67218874
In the Netherlands they care very little about the difference between military and police. Our police is often easily reinforced with gendarmerie and even soldiers.

European countries wouldn't need armies if russia didn't exist tbqh

>>67206464
>Which is reasonable.
Is it? The US wields all the power in the alliance, they should just shoulder all the burden and stop complaining.
And if they don't, and Drumpf actually does kill NATO, all the better. Our politicians are too cowardly and coddled. A good shock is gonna do them nothing but good.

>>67206258
Do countries just stop buying weaponry from each other because they aren't formal allies?

>>67210736
France pays like 1.9% instead of 2% it's nothing
And the military budget was gonna go up anyways, regardless of Trump or not

>>67228001
Oh please. Italy hasn't done anything militarily significant since the Roman Empire.

>>67206252
>inb4 german and french army under italian generals

>>67228067
Yes. If we weren't in NATO we would have bought the Gripen instead because there would be more nordic defense cooperation. Lockheed Martin would have lost an 8 billion dollar contract with Norway.

>>67216955
>not allying the EU army with Russia and America to counter the Chinese threat

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>>67230286
No Goym, you need stealth! Everyone knows Norway would be on a first strike mission in a war that would require stealth!

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>>67215921
I thought the same about Trump.

>>67230364
why is that so beautiful

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>>67230543
Natural to appreciate such a feat of engineering and technology.

>>67203068
Why not? A single coalition of 680 million (after Brexit) people using military and manufacturing technologies from France, Germany, Belgium, Sweden etc would be pretty based in repelling the red menace.

>>67203068
Their countries forgot about the history of the U.S. and want to give up all sovereignty to Germany and France.

>>67206458
Pretty much this.

>>67206458
Pretty sure we gave them to Italians and Dutchmen. Did we forget about you?

>>67230749
That's what France is for... and the UK, for the moment.

Even if the UK isn't part of the EU they aren't going to sit idly by and watch you guys get pile-driven. They'd be next regardless.

>>67206850
Quiet sudaca grown ups are talking

>>67206458
>>67230749
You have nukes in your country. They're just US owned, and in a war your pilots would be the ones to drop it, even I believe you guys are pretty anti nuclear weapons.

>>67230364
>>67230569
nice

>>67203068
We need to leave this abomination already.

>we don't want to be forced to buy things from you Europeans!
>we want to be forced to buy them from big Daddy Trump instead!
Why are Brits so perpetually cucked?

>>67236985
they think they have an empire when they really dont

>>67237024
Yeah they do. They have the Cayman Islands, the Falklands... The list probably goes on. Truly every bit as impressive as the 62 years they were relevant

This needs to happen, it's the only way to resolve the mass mogration problem.

Africa and the middle east wants European leadership, so they will get it.

>>67207213
I'm so hype for the -B. It's going to take us from 10 carriers with supersonic tactical aircraft to almost 20, with another 4 in construction.

It's the model that's going to make the whole program worth it.

>>67230705
German guns don't actually hit anything.

AUGs for eveyone!

>>67237224
ah yea the falkland islands
for strategic sheepherding purposes

>>67210533
Yeah, and thanks to that there is no longer any relevant country in EU who is fully against it, and because of UK withdrawing its military with it from EU, it also left military void that made EU army necessary.
So when london gets bombed by Euroarmy you have only yourself to blame.

>>67237363
>when London gets bombed by euroarmy
Nah but I can imagine the French and Portuguese sinking their fleet in revenge after they get fully invaded

>>67236985
>implying brexit voters considered the economic implications for even a second

>>67222488
Ah yes, the big French victory of WWII

>>67237553
This guy did apparently >>67209877
Why develop your own infrastructure when you can buy things from the yanks

Europe needs to get an army and fast. Emperor Trump needs a challenge.

>>67237224
An Empire implies dominion over many different countries, the Cayman Islands and Tristan de Cunha are not, or do you think that the French also have an Empire due to holding French Guyana, New Caledonia and a bunch of other tiny islands?

>>67237591
Anglo """"""education""""""

>>67237289
It would also help with issues like youth unemployment and economic stagnation

>>67237633
Sorry I thought it was fairly obvious I was being sarcastic

>>67237644
t. Not a country

>>67237665
Sorry, it's hard to distinguish between sarcasm and genuine retardation on 4chan

>>67237610
Who cares. Most of our global revenue and economy strength comes from energy export and futures trading, of which all our companies are subsidiaries of German owned RWE.. Yet all brexit voters care about is a few jobless fisherman and steel workers returning to industries that died for a reason.

It wouldn't happen, but hypothetically if the Germans completely pulled tomorrow we'd fall instantly into a recession.

>>67237692
True tbf

>>67214277

>This is what happens when balkan niggers are in charge.

Nobody wants balkan or EE countries to have any say in the army, you don't have the moral ability to handle such a responsibility. Luckily we only need you as cannon fodder, and you can all let us white men call the shots.

It will be safe. I promise.

>>67237701
Also we get all our steel etc from China now so I feel like the EU isn't really the problem there

Also I should say that sending Boris Johnson (back when he was mayor of London) to negotiate trade deals for Chinese steel is literally the most insulting thing your country has had to put up with in a long time. Sending off the Mayor of London to put the knife in the North and Wales is just a joke, at least send off Prince Harry or something

>>67237714
>It will be safe. I promise.
A prison is safe too.