>tfw we get invaded by Russia and there's no one to help

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>>67200001
I've gone from a euroskeptic to a federalist overnight.

We need to unite or Russia will keep chimping out while China and the US take us over.

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>>67200001
cyka blyad :DD

>>67200109
Absolutely nothing wrong with China.
I have no idea why Trumpet has animosity towards China (and some towards EU) but not any against Russia.
Only China can save us now.

>>67200001
Finland is rightful russian province.

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Isn't that a good thing since Trump thought that up?

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take it as it comes pekka. allow your preconceived notions to melt away for a bit. allow that media programming to exit your brain without any judgement or emotion. just be. and your eyes shall open. maga my friend. maga.

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>>67200184

I, for one, welcome our chinese overlords.

...and all the highly-educated american immigrants

>>67200205
I heard your leaders were throwing a tantrum for Trump too.

>>67200184
>China
I don't want to live in an Orwellian country.

>>67200001
Youre not even part of NATO.

NATO has no obligation to help Finland, you've made zero contributions to it

Wtf who even need europe
no one
just don't do any civil wars dummies

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>>67200264

Nah, our speaker for People's Representative Council is bros with Trump

>>67200184
>China
It's because China uses it's huge manufacturing power to fuck with competetors and it's interests rarely align with America.
>Russia
I think he just likes Putin's stronkman image. If he knew what Vladi did to Russia's press, I doubt he would like him.

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>>67200334

>>67200293
This. NATO would help you as much as it helped Ukraine.

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Has to be said that Trump has a point. Look at this, it's pathetic.

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let em come

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>>67200184
>Absolutely nothing wrong with China.
Nothing wrong with them but their economy is huge and getting bigger. They already own half of Poortugal and are attempting to buy half of Eastern Europe.

>I have no idea why Trumpet has animosity towards China (and some towards EU) but not any against Russia.
China are taking muh jobs and le debt meme. Russia has Putin who's yuge friend and a tremendous leader.

>Only China can save us now.
It's funny that the weird aliens from opposite land might be the ones to save us from Russia and the US, who in the grand scheme of things aren't so different

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>>67200184
>This slave mentality
Fuck everyone, nuclear weapons under construction. Finland will become next superpower by the year 2020.

>>67200503
greece can't pay debts but can afford a large military?

>>67200288
China wants Orwell-tier stuff for themselves, not others. They're very pragmatic and the gommunism thing is just a meme. The pragmatism is why they're potentially dangerous.

>>67200334
Admit it Pyotr, you love our civil wars. You always join in.

>>67200503
It shouldn't even exist, desu, the USSR isn't around anymore.

>>67200184
Kanker mongol

>>67200001
dont worry bro
if russia should invade you, we are gonna sanction the hell out of them

>>67200593
>greece can't pay debts but can afford a large military?

It doesn't have a large military. Chart is % of GDP. It's what countries spend proportional to their wealth. Greece's military is much smaller than France's for e.g.

For Greece to spend 2.4% GDP is completely normal even with all le debts, especially if you consider all the bad shit happening near their waters.

>>67200595
How is their Communism thing just a meme? Their incredibly strict and oppressive government is the reason for so much of their success.

>>67200001
Lmao, it's actually the exact opposite

>>67200593
They have a shitton of islands right next to Turkey

>>67200673
and then do trades with them and build gas pipeline with them, fucking krauts

>>67200382
>implying Trump won't do the same thing to American press?

Who will stop him? GOP Congress fearful for re-election? Supreme Court that he's going to stuff with his own judges? Pro-Trump military?

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>>67200660
thats what you think

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>>67200763
A-are you going to invade Russia?

>>67200809
But it isn't, the USSR dissolved in 1991. There is no reason for NATO to exist past that point.

>>67200754
>How is their Communism thing just a meme?
They're capitalist as fuck

>Their incredibly strict and oppressive government is the reason for so much of their success.
Maybe. They'd probably be fine without it. But either way, their strict and oppressive thing is just general one-party state shit. Communism is just the meme ideology they tell the kids in school, nobody in government actually gives a shit about social ownership of the means of production or any of that shit.

>>67200001
>00001
So close...

>fat, loud, stupid Americans...
>help pls
Maybe Europeans should have tried being nice to us for once.

>>67200293
This. I think you can take care of yourselves.
Right? XDDD

>>67200001
>Trump dismantled nato
>nato
>finland
I hope you are drunk anon.

>>67201037
we don't need any help
OP is faggot

Is 2% GDP spent on defense really too much ask?

>>67201037
But I love America

>>67200797
i do believe that trade is the best way to prevent wars

>>67201166
>Is 2% GDP spent on defense really too much ask?
yes, so you can bomb the middle east and then those people walk here

>>67201206
>i do believe that trade is the best way to prevent wars

This is what they said before WW1. When Anglo-German trade was booming, btw.

>>67200001
cyka blyad comrade :D:DD

>>67200184
>Absolutely nothing wrong with China.
>I have no idea why Trumpet has animosity towards China
yeah you know nothing so keep your opinions to yourself :D:D:D

>>67201241
Why did you even enter the war?

>>67201125
Finland was too Finlandised to join but they were protected by NATO's umbrella

>>67201000
>They're capitalist as fuck.
Yeah state-capitalist maybe. China still has Five Year Plans, a new one was announced this year. Businesses and corporations aren't independent entities in the PRC, they're locked in with the government. A good example is the CEO of the Dailan Wanda Group, his father fought with Mao and he himself was a soldier in the People's Liberation Army. That's pretty sketchy.

>They'd probably be fine without it
No way, China is diverse as fuck. You would have so many different cultures clashing and fighting without the government to enforce order. Wu Chinese in the south, Manchu in the north, Uyghurs in the west, and then all the smaller ones too. China couldn't be a democratic republic without falling apart.

>nobody in government actually gives a shit about social ownership of the means of production or any of that shit
If we want to talk about genuine Marxist Communism, then China still isn't that far off course. The intermediary step between Capitalism and Communism is an oppressive as fuck government that stamps out the bourgeoisie. But aside from that, I'm inclined to agree; China is happy staying between two worlds.

>>67200001
>implying we need your swampy frozen hellhole

if a federalist Europe with its own army happens will small countries with no army like baltics or easter euros be part of it?

>>67201299
You switch places with us and be next to ruskies. See how you like it.

>>67200001
Congress is the one who fiddles around with NATO.

>>67200382
>press
Trump has nothing but contempt for these people, and who could blame him

>>67200184
>asian doesnt understand why people dont like china
lol

>>67201363
What do you mean? Do you believe in all the propaganda from the west?

>>67200001
Remember tradition grandfathers and shoot dozens of Russian soldiers.

>>67200898
It's already a very strange year, it would be appropriate if something like that happened.

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>>67201295
>Why did you even enter the war?

To honour our international treaties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1839)

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>>67200898

Yes, just like in old good times.

>>67201309
Well yeah, their govt and corporate world are pretty incestuous. PRC reminds me more of a fascist state than communist. Not fascist as in le scary hitler way I mean, just a bit like corporatism.

>China is diverse as fuck.
Even if Tibet and Uyghurstan went independent that's like a fraction of the chinese economy. China's like 90+% Han. Manchus are basically extinct, and the subgroups like Wu are pretty loyal Chinks. I don't think there'd be much of an issue there, I mean if India can stay together China certainly could. Also I'd be inclined to say that smaller balkanised Chinese countries would be pretty succesful too. Taiwan are doing pretty well for themselves after all.

>>67201442
>propaganda from the west
I don't give a fuck about US. I see what our eastern neighbour is doing and has done in the past.

>>67201363
We we've beside the eternal Anglo since before Russia even existed, we've suffered enough

>>67201442
>Mexican telling a Fin about Rashka
my lels, the buthurt belt is buthurt for a very good reason Pako, Russia is mafia state

>>67201770
Zombie is the best rock song anyone has ever done. Fuck the haters.

Don't panic. Everyone in NATO gets free nukes from Trump when he dismantles it. We already got ours. Then everyone gets to trade with each other. I'm not worried.

>>67201922
Only nuclear power can serve the nuclear weapons. Without maintenance, it will turn into a radioactive scrap metal for several years.

We'll help you, Pekka. We'll send some Gripens, and Ali Muhammeds who will suicide bomb the ruskies to death.

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>>67201419
>>67200184
>>67200672
>All this rectal pain towards China.
Seems like they're doing something right to get people so upset.
Just get back to /pol/ already. This board has gone to the gutter today with all these passive aggressive loonies shitposting all around.

>>67201677
I don't think you're too far off with fascism, to be honest. The brand of Communism they went for was in-line with the USSR's, that being National Communism. You see stuff coming out of China even now that's brimming with patriotism and national pride.

>Even if Tibet and Uyghurstan went independent that's like a fraction of the chinese economy.
That's a fair point, but it's still a net loss for China - I wouldn't say they're fine if they lost so much land.

>if India can stay together
As far as I'm aware, India has a lot of issues with all their various cultures and ethnic groups as well. They might stay all together, but in China's case they would be worse for wear because of it. There's also been a lot of discrimination and selective oppression against certain cultures under Chinese rule. I doubt they would want to tolerate any more even if under a new government.

>smaller balkanised Chinese countries
I wouldn't say China is doing fine if it balkanizes.

>>67202080
We have nuclear power. That's old technology by now.

>>67201755
>>67201898
But they are not doing anything.

The Europeans do not have the fighting spirit. They pampered comfort and kuked. Russian is the dogs of war, their life is a light version of hell.

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>>67202749
Taking Constantinople when?

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>>67202749
>dogs of war

Dogs of vodka more like it.
Just because you're a nation of out of work alcoholics doesn't mean you're hard as nails soldiers mate

>>67202161
0.0022 cryptodongs have been deposited in your account

>>67202219
all good points

>>67203292
It was a good forecast actually. He won those winning states by a tiny margin, it was a close election. 27% is a fair prediction.

It was the most generous one to Trump out of all of them. You should pick on the other forecasters saying Clinton had 99% chance of winnign

what would russia's casus belli be for invading its neighbors?

>>67204642
No casus belli. -2 stability + 2 war exhaustion +20 aggressive expansion.

>>67200001
I can't wait to see the immense butthurt from baltic nations when they start posting under the russian flag.

>>67204938
How do you even have no CB these days, it's so easy to make one.

>>67204642
>>67204642
The foreign government is oppressing the Russian minorities --> Russia has a duty to protect its people from harm --> Russia will send in "unarmed" "peacekeepers" to protect Russian victims --> some violence starts --> Russian """"volunteers"""" armed with military grade firearms and riding tanks purchased from the local corner shop intervene to protect from violence

etc etc etc until finally

-----> if you attack our forces which are now occupying a foreign country, we will nuke you

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>>67200001

Prepare your anus for upcoming liberation)

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Russia cant even stand for a day as we reclaim all precious clays back.

>>67204642

Attempting to join NATO. Our invasions on Georgia and Ukraine had the purpose to make territorial dispute becouse its presence exlude joining NATO.

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>>67200001
don't worry, we'll help you finlan

>>67205316
>pic
Wtf is this

No one gonna invade you, urop.
Fucking relax already, its like you asking for this.

>>67200184
Because China can massively invest in our economy while we cant in theirs, so they can have a massive leverage that could be harmful.

>>67205419
You promise?

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All I want is for USA and Russia to be friends but it will never happen we are too stupid and they are too clever

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>>67200001
FINLAN PLS JOIN INTERBARIUM
WE GOTTA STICK TOGETHER

>>67205481
Well, i hope so.

>>67205406
After our "military" found a "russian" "submarine" leftist cucks put this in the waters outside of stockholm. Supposedly it emits morse code with the same message as on the thing itself.

>>67200754
>is the reason for so much of their success.
>Australian education
They're commies by name only, in practice they are almost libertarian. Copyright laws aren't even a thing there.

>>67205631
too bad our stupid governments can't coexist.

>>67205406

They put this underwater as a joke re. the submarines.

Unsure if your crazy-media reported on it (or if a 4channer would even read said crazy-media).

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>>67200001
you're not even it the NATO, frogboi

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>>67205545
kill your self.

We've paid our dues to NATO and have taken everything very seriously, s-surely we will be a-ok, r-right guys?

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>>67203007
Return to /pol/ perhaps?

Why would USA allow someone, who they don't control, to expand?

>>67204067
>>67203292
I unironically believe trump won due hillary voters staying home because of meme forecasts like this.

>>67207268
>Voters
>Stay at home
I think this is not an American thing

>>67206934
Yes, you're fine.

>>67207268
Her followers were definitely voting. The problem is a lot of people in key states don't like her.

>>67205545
>(((intermarium)))
Stop being so butthurt about us

1. EU includes mutual protection
2. Finland is not in NATO

>>67201219
>Thinking most of the people are from Iraq and Syria
>Thinking all if of Iraq and Syria is a war zone
>Thinking they are fleeing U.S. bombs
>Thinking there aren't other safe countries closer to Iraq and Syria to go to
>Not noticing the surge if immigrants didn't happen when Merkel opened her fat mouth
Pull your head out of your ass. The U.S. isn't the cause of this massive amount of "refugees" you're getting.

>>67205513
I think people appear less intelligent once they become your friend.

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Does potus really have any power to do all that though? Obongo couldn't even close a singlie prison

>>67208242
nah, it's not like the us went in there and killed their dictators with their nato puppets only for a new islamic dictatorship to begin emerging

>>67208643
The president can basically declare a war on anybody and call it a "police action". This includes nukes.

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>>67208838
Yeah but the fun stuff like this never happens. I'm talking about deporting illegals, pulling from NATO - can he really do that?

>>67200001
GET FUCKED MONGOLIANS
HHGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHGAHAHAHAHAHA

Bring the girls, I will bring the investments