>tfw you realize Pax Americana is coming to an end either way

>>66793120
Good, the rest of the world has had it too good for too long.

I think we can all agree that Pax Brittanica was much better.

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>>66793167
>had it too good for too long.

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>>66793184
>2 world wars and the destruction of Europe

>>66793120
thank god

tfw you realize the Brazil government is coming to an end either way

>>66793167

I am happy for you. I hope now you can use the military budget in stuff like free healthcare.

The Soviet Union doesnt exist anymore, there is no point in spending so much in the military if your enemies are going to be Taliban or Isis tier.

>>66793197
>>66793583
umm, so you think that would be a good thing for you guys? what is the opposite of pax?

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>>66796674
>so you think that would be a good thing for you guys?
yes, being under the America is super good! Especially when they simply dethrone our democratically elected government for a 30 year pro-America dictatorship that assassinated our former presidents, exiled all our painters/musicians/architects/writers simply because "communism" means to them not bending over to everything they believe

>>66796674
What a stupid question. They would like to be free, no matter what the consequences.

>>66796839
The alternative is being like Africa where no one gives a fuck and you all kill each other.

Third worlders can't be trusted to govern themselves

>>66793120
Can we invade Brasil than?

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>>66796890
>The alternative is being like Africa where no one gives a fuck and you all kill each other.
Yes, hence why from 2002-2010 we didn't become a BRIC, had an average of 5% growth and didn't become known globally after winning both WC and Olympics, yes, we need America to guide every step! They are our salvation!

>>66796901
try it, you will lose, nobody successfully invaded Brazil

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>>66796938
>5% growth
Yet you blew it all in less than a decade with no intervention on our behalf.

Hmm really makes you think doesn't it?

>>66796869
kek, would do you mean "free", what specifically is about to change that is currently preventing them from being "free"?

>>66796901
Why would we want to invade Brazil nothing worth dying for there just like Russia.

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>>66793120
Maybe for you guys, fortress North America will remain untouched

>>66796981
You actually planned to do that in WW2 if we sided with Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Rubber

>>66796976
Free of american influence completely. Is what they think. They think things would be magically better. Or maybe they want to take control of their Nation with their own hands.

Anyways who knows what will happen.

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>>66796973
>a decade with no intervention on our behalf
Yes cause having commodities prices going to a new low, isn't totally related to fucking Russia after Ukraine Crisis and by consequence destroying us too, and getting us to being your puppet again by impeaching Dilma after losing at Syria and the Middle East

>>66797052
Our Military make plans for everything. Even girl scouts becoming a threat.
Do those plans always work out or be realized? Of course not.

>>66796961
lol, Brasil is joke it would fall apart in an invasion. Its army would be fighting each other and not us.

>>66796981
Uhh, we could invade it for its supply of Guaraná.

>>66797072
Dont blame us for your domestic shit. You elected retards and then you got rid of them. It is tiring getting blamed for all the problems for your 3rd world shitholes.

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>>66797066
>They think things would be magically better.
and they have m8, the years we had a nationalistic government were the years that literally developed our country. We even had a president commit suicide to prevent the loss of our national sovereignty to you guys

We will no longer surrender this country or its people.

>>66797106
Why do you have to be such a downer? I just want to have fun.

>>66797052
Oh please stop bullshitting us already. We only needed access to the North East shore and that was a contingency plan if you chose to stay "neutral", which would in reality mean pro-nazi. What do you expect? It is war. We needed to protect the whole fucking SA continent from a potential nazi invasion.

>>66797072
>Country has a shit economy run by shit people
>Economy collapses due to something totally unrelated done by another country
>Gets butthurt at said country.

See, if you were competently governed that wouldn't have happened but oh well.

>>66797147
>>66797230
>Dont blame us for your domestic shit.
yes, cause you have nothing to gain from a non-democratic pro-US government that have already sold our new found oil camps to you guys and plan to literally scrap our biggest companies in favor to multinationals

>>66797237
>plan to literally scrap our biggest companies
Sounds like they were shit companies

>>66797230
yes cause you can certainly become independent of commodities by having your government being a constant cuck to foreign power. Also it's really really simple to develop infrastructure amirite

>>66797237
you sound like a butthurt leftie. do you think that lula is the greatest thing that ever happened in your country? you probably would be better off if you still had the right wing junta in power!

Not a thing can be done with so few men.

>>66797266
>Sounds like they were shit companies
shit companies that your country has to be protectionist for your industries to survive

>>66797237
Almost sounds like it is too late when you put it that way even if Pax Americana burns to the ground.

>>66797301
>you probably would be better off if you still had the right wing junta in power!
how come?

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>>66797319
>Protectionist towards a country with not even a tenth of the GDP or an fraction of the resources and talent.
Why?

>>66797342
not really, we just need to what we always do and tax them to the ground, but for that we need a nationalistic government

>>66797274
Just elect a better government or whatever you guys do when you're tired of this shit.

>Pax America end.
>Pax ching chong man beings.

It probably goning to get worse for everyone. Like China doesnt even pretend (like the US does) to be the good guys.

>>66797362
Yes, your country certainly doesn't tax our beef, or our steel, iron, aluminum, our agro-exports and tons of things that we led globally on, so that your industry can survive

>>66797392
Yeah, we will

>>66797343
you could become another chile! also your military weren't nearly as cruel as pinochet towards the opposition.

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>>66797405
>Brazilian beef
>Brazilian steel
>Brazilian iron
>Brazilian aluminum
>Brazilian agro-exports

>>66793120
This seems kind of... >>>/pol/itical

>>66796622

I hope Argentina is one of our closest buddies into the 22nd century

>>66797449
Don't forget that we also bought literally every beer that you guys consume in the USA except maybe for your shitty micro-breweries, to the point your government had to intervene for their survival, because Ambev was dumping them hard

>>66797237
lol oil is nothing thse days anyway and US is full of shale that is worth nothing.

Here is the truth fag. Brasil doesnt have its shit together. You guys elected monkeys. Brasil is corrupt as fuck. That is on you. I realize it is easier to blame US, Jews, Europeans, etc. Truth is you guys fucked up.

Nobody wants shit Brasilian countries or oil worth nothing. PT fucked Brasil up. You relied on exporting resources to China, which worked for awhile but now that demand in China is down you are fucked.

Not our fault cuck.

The reason Brasil never gets better is because your politicians blame everyone else instead of fixing things.

>>66797486
>Don't forget that we also bought literally every beer that you guys consume in the USA
Is this what Brazilians actually believe?

>>66797443
yes, a country with literally no free education, inequality high as fuck, no national industries and totally dependent on the USA, excelent especially towards the 5th biggest country of the world

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>>66797400
>implying America pretends

>>66797516
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anheuser-Busch_InBev

>>66797545
>AB InBev was formed through successive mergers of three international brewing groups: Interbrew from Belgium, AmBev from Brazil, and Anheuser-Busch from the United States

So Brazil had nothing to do with it then?

>>66797513
then if no one wants shitty countries/oil/influence as you said, explain me why almost borderline waging worldwar at Russia for a shitty Middle East country?

>>66797579
yes, cause the CEO isn't Brazilian and we don't actually own the biggest share of the company to the point of Ambev owning them all

>>66797634
>We
The Brazilian government owns it?

>>66797666
No, Brazilians own it

>>66797597
Syria hardly has any oil, and at $50 a barrel not enough to care about,

Russia and US just get into pissing contest all the time. Machismo of international relations.

Nobody cares about your undrillable oil that cost more to extract than it is worth. That is why Petrobras has no money.

>>66797693
But not the government.

The average Brazilian favela dweller has fuck all to do with them

The day Canada gets invaded by anyone but the US would be literally the end of the world so I'm not worried.

>>66797716
>Russia and US just get into pissing contest all the time. Machismo of international relations.
yes, they spend tons of billions of dollars, lives solely for roleplaying. I mean they have nothing to gain from having countries to their favour hahaha

>>66797764
>The average Brazilian favela dweller has fuck all to do with them
not really, everytime we drink beer we have something to do with them, also Ambev by buying those brands, literally introduced them all in Brazil, Budweiser became popular here due to it

>>66797778
lol that isnt a contest. Russia has North Korea, Syria, and Belarus. US has everyone else. Russia spends money to look stronk to hide the fact the US now has Russia former colonies in its sphere of influence.

We spend money on foreign bullshit because we have been doing it so long we cant stop even though we get no benefit.

Syria still has no oil. I mean it has little bit, literally less than Mongolia. We just like to fuck with Russia.

>>66797843
>lol that isnt a contest. Russia has North Korea, Syria, and Belarus. US has everyone else. Russia spends money to look stronk to hide the fact the US now has Russia former colonies in its sphere of influence.
yes it isn't, no wonder you guys didn't want to depose Assad at all to the point of training ISIS and shit hahahaha Literally Fox and Grapes the post

>>66797888
lol, yeah all our fault.

It isnt like Assad somehow turned a small protest into a full fledged civil war.

Here is what you retards dont get. We dont have the magical powers you attribute to us. Syria like Brasil is fault of Syrian government.

Assad is shit leader and his people are rebelling. But of course fault of US because we provided a little bit if supplies a few years into the whole thing.

Fuck off retard. Russia is the one going full retard in Syria. I can see you blaming Iraq on us, but Syria is the fault of Assad, Iran, and Russia.

>>66797977
>We dont have the magical powers you attribute to us. Syria like Brasil is fault of Syrian government.
yes, you guys don't have CIA or anything, also Bin Laden and 9/11 is totally just a Taliban thing. I mean you guys don't have superpowers! It's not like you have military bases there or something, or even spy on people or train rebels, dissidents and foment chaos for greed and cheap resources, I mean you guys are totally independent, I mean you guys even freed the colonies from European countries totally because you guys wanted them to be free and not really have them under you!
>It isnt like Assad somehow turned a small protest into a full fledged civil war.
Also top fukken kek

>>66797977
>Assad is shit leader and his people are rebelling.
he is literally winning the war

>>66798060
>I mean you guys even freed the colonies from European countries totally because you guys wanted them to be free
Tbh this is true

>>66793120
Good

Hopefully it becomes Pax Mundis.

>>66798126
yes it was solely due to an humanitarian effort! Not that an ideological civil war came after haha

>>66798060
This may be hard to believe but CIA doesnt have magic powers and isnt responsible for everything in world. You sound like those people who blame white people/jews/rich people etc for why they are losers.

The truth is losers fail. On their own. Dilma failed and so did Assad. They are fuckups.
>>66798103
He is now that Russia is fighting the war for him. he was literally losing to a bunch of disorganized rebels into Russia bailed him out. before Russia saved him Iran/Hezbollah had to save him.

>>66797400
You realize that it won't be pax Sino. Only the most delusional Chinese think they'll be the sole superpower.

>>66798187
Dilma did fuck up, I don't deny that, but there is a reason all BRICs economy came to a halt after 2014, the thing is Putin is a better leader that can see that this has a thing envolving you guys and Dilma didn't got herself impeached and now we are under your sphere of influence again, at least for a small time. You guys are involved in this and you can't deny it, you guys simply want everyone else to fail simply to satisfy your greedy ambitions and globalize the entire world into a shitty plutocrat world governed by greed and proxy wars.

>>66798187
The thing i find funny about the while thing is iran and Russia are bleeding money faster than they can make it on Syria n so Putin can win all he wants fit all i care . They are getting poorer.

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>it's another let's blame everything on america thread

why do you guys keep doing this? ;_;

>>66798310
*whole

>>66798322
Because WikiLeaks and Snowden already exposed your dirty tactics.
You guys could have impeached the black guy and shiet but you instead just accepted it all.

>>66798285
There is a reason they came to a halt.

There were all tied to China, and the Chinese economy slowed down for internal reasons which hit the rest of the BRICS. Russia is exception since it relied on oil and price tanked, also tied to China. But "EVIL CIA JEWS!"

You failed because you suck

>>66796890
Merican Education

>>66797147
Brasil would be like the Vietnam war,though

>>66798464
Not really it would be opposite. People of brasil would be tripping over each other to let us conquer them so they could emigrate to USA.

It would be like if US annexed Mexico, it would cause massive celebrations followed by millions of Latinos heading to California and NYC.

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>>66798060
butthurt is strong in this thread lol

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>>66798387
>There were all tied to China, and the Chinese economy slowed down for internal reasons which hit the rest of the BRICS.
kek, yes Brazil doesn't rely on oil too. You guys work like a gamble, if it works good for you, if it doesn't try harder. Different from Russia we also got free speech a media directly connected to you guys that suck your cock daily and literally promote the US, your individualistic culture and self-hate every fucking day, and you thought that would be enough to conquer slowly our heart, specially since we are clearly anti-war and the aftermatch of the military dictatorship was clearly against you. And like with Russia, you guys gambled that with this economy coming to a halt, probably you could foment chaos and impeach Dilma, and look what happened? After the impeachment was done, the first thing the leader of the former opposition did was what? Go the US senate and tell them the good news! If you really think that you have nothing to do with it kek, you are clearly really stupid

>>66798533
Chicanos fucking hate whitey too. They're so fucking annoying, I hate them.

>>66797072
No, oil prices cratered after China's growth began to flatten and they needed much less oil.

>>66798577
faggot, we dont care what monkey runs your country. It matters not to us.

Your problem is you buy into Brasilian communist party propaganda, based off Russia, that blames US on the problems you yourselves cause.

>you guys
>you guys
>you guys
>you guys
he is really on fire stickin' it to the man hahahaha.

>>66798437
why is panama on /int/ always shitting on murrica

>>66798625
Yes, it clearly isn't good towards you guys to have the 5th biggest country on your side

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>>66793120
And Pax Sinica will begin...

>>66798625
>Your problem is you buy into Brasilian communist party propaganda, based off Russia, that blames US on the problems you yourselves cause.
kek, coming from the country which literally blames Russia for Hillary coming down

>>66798625
The other hue is a retard for thinking that the impeachment and every little economic problem was a burger plot but your government does care about Brazil, leaks already showed that you actively fuck with our space efforts and NSA spied on our government. There's probably a lot of other shit too.

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>>66798545
>Shanghai Cooperation Organization

The great game continues, but with some new players.

>>66798702
>cultural preservation
>what is cultural revolution

>>66798545
What's this map ?

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>>66798702
>morality

topkek

>>66798685
brasil is a fucking mess that cant get its own shit together domestically, how are you going to help us internationally when you hardly even function, having you on our side is having a problem on our side. We dont care.

Brasil wishes it could be our sidekick. We dont want it. When you get your shit together you can be one of our helpers.

>>66798714
Yes, long tradition of US/Russia shitting on each other. Sti true though. Russia pays billions to blame everything on US. It is just our relationship.

>>66798722
We spied on you, and everyone else, yet that is why you alone failed on this.We spy on germany too yet they dont suck like you do.

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>>66798702
>China
>Equality
lol, China has an even worse GINI coefficient than us.

>>66793184
India and Pakistan - fuckin' sewers. Egypt and much of the mid-east under past brit administration - one major cluster fuck. Yup, great legacy.

>>66798760
>brasil is a fucking mess that cant get its own shit together domestically, how are you going to help us internationally when you hardly even function
yes, it's not like we are the 8th biggest GDP, and have world class industries or anything hahahaha, we are totally useless. kek you are really stupid

>>66798760
>Yes, long tradition of US/Russia shitting on each other. Sti true though. Russia pays billions to blame everything on US. It is just our relationship.
yes, it has nothing to do with geopolitics and other shit, governments don't benefit with having allies on their side, cause you know USA is absolut in all ways

>>66798784
If only you'd actually put that towards infrastructure and education instead of meme Olympics and politicians pocketing the money.

You might not look like a total shithole.

>>66798760
>brasil is a fucking mess that cant get its own shit together domestically, how are you going to help us internationally when you hardly even function
>what is a market
>what are multinationals

>>66798816
>If only you'd actually put that towards infrastructure and education instead of meme Olympics and politicians pocketing the money.
kek, yes cause resources/consumer market aren't really a thing, kill yourself m8

>>66798784
If your GDP is so great than work on flushing toielt paper down toilet and not putting it in trashcan.

US and Brasil can talk about alliance when you can flush toilet paper like civilized country.

>>66798807
It is just Russia throwing a hissyfit. We dont care, they lost decades ago.

>>66798756
what the fuck
i normally don't feel anything from videos any more but that is genuinely horrifying

>>66798849
>If your GDP is so great than work on flushing toielt paper down toilet and not putting it in trashcan.
>ad hominem
nice argument there m8, it's nice knowing you ran out of them

>>66798845
You can get back to me when most of your country doesn't live in favela shanty towns.

>>66798731
I think we stopped playing and decided to spectate instead

>>66798881
>You can get back to me when most of your country doesn't live in favela shanty towns.
yes, that is exactly the situation of my country, good knowing you have precise knowledge of the country you are discussing with

>>66798874
Ahh so you admit with its GDP it cant do this.

US doesnt ally with losers who throw away toilet paper in trash cans with shit on it.

Flushabe toilet paper is minimum requirement to be US ally or have CIA overthrow your government

>>66798849
>It is just Russia throwing a hissyfit. We dont care, they lost decades ago.
your media, government, NATO, every european country, middle eastern country says otherwise 2bh

>>66793120
Bad thing
There's no sane enough country-group of countries in the horizon to put order to this planet. Everyone's going crazy.

>>66798930
Not at all, we all say they throw hissyfit. Russia works itself up and then collapses.

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>>66798925
>US doesnt ally with losers who throw away toilet paper in trash cans with shit on it.
you guys don't ally with no one, you force them into alliances. Also go cry in a corner m8.
>Ahh so you admit with its GDP it cant do this.
Are you know inventing words so that you can pretend you are right? Literally pathetic

>>66798898
Anglo-American corporations and the Five Eyes are playing the game. You are still in it.

>>66798953
>Not at all, we all say they throw hissyfit. Russia works itself up and then collapses.
then why don't your media says that, but instead put your entire population and of your allies into fear?

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Turkey and now the Phillipines, so who's next?

>>66798964
Dont worry we wont force you into alliance, you guys suck too much.

We only force countries that can flush toilet paper.

>>66798985
To justify defense spending. Russia is better than IS at justifying spending billions on military.

>>66798937
see
>>66798702

>>66799013
>To justify defense spending
for what? I mean they are clearly shit according to you and shouldn't be feared at all

>>66799007
Clearly the fact that Turkey and Philippines are moving away from US is Brazilian conspiracy to destroy US. Why do you guys fuck with us?

>>66798937
But the lefties would totally prefer a total collapse and chaos given a chance to get rid of the American "influence".

>>66798702
I would prefer Japanese influence

>>66799032
To spend money on defense. It is called industrial war complex, it wants money. It doesnt want to fight Russia, it just wants to use Russia as an excuse to get money. It is a way for rich to get billions in tax dollars over made up boogeymen.

In Brasil you dont need to do this since politicians and rich just steal the money directly from public treasury and like cucks you accept it. In US this wont work so you hype up a weak enemy to get public to support stupid spending.

>>66799013
>We only force countries that can flush toilet paper.

Hey, it's Brazil. Many of them don't even have toilets or plumbing.

please tell me the adjective version of China
after the Pax Americana broken, pax what will come?

>>66799068
see
>>66798702

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>>66799013
>Dont worry we wont force you into alliance, you guys suck too much.
kek, you are like those guys that literally just want to show how bad ass you are, by throwing bad ass words to the point of losing the context of what you were talking about

most americans don't care about america.

>>66799084
kek, you arent badass enough to be our allies.

What dont you get nobody cares about Brasil.

>>66799029
I don't think China could be beneficious to the world. They don't have an idea to back their ventures. At least anglo countries have the "freedom" thing
>>66799037
Lefties are people out of touch with reality EVERYWHERE. No matter what country they're talking from. They picture their "foes" just like weebs picture their animu's foes

>>66799061
>In Brasil you dont need to do this since politicians and rich just steal the money directly from public treasury and like cucks you accept it.
well much better than disrupting entire cultures and lives for greed, this just shows how savage you guys are

>>66799106
Oh come, this guy you are talking to is just a stupid leftie. No need to insult the rest of them. They COULD be our ally and I would welcome that.

>>66799106
kek I am just laughing at you, you are doing it again

>>66799061
>To spend money on defense. It is called industrial war complex, it wants money. It doesnt want to fight Russia, it just wants to use Russia as an excuse to get money. It is a way for rich to get billions in tax dollars over made up boogeymen.
And only war industry benefits from having an entire country under your thumb? Clearly other industries don't benefit from having access resources at your thumb amirite :)

>>66799111
The "freedom" thing is just a way of convincing the public opinion

>>66799135
>They COULD be our ally and I would welcome that.
We literally gave you bossa nova, Zé Carioca, entered the allies in WW2 for you guys, you know what you guys gave for us in return? 30-year dictatorship

>>66799114
like you did with natives. Like you still do when you murder them to cut down trees for a little money.

>>66799135
No they cant. They offer nothing.

>>66799137
kek, and I am laughing at you, you are doing it again. Sounds like a mutually beneficially discussion.

>>66799172
If you had something to offer we would just buy it. You have nothing to sell. So no you arent right, fag. We buy some coffee from you. Wasnt enough to save the PT though, lol.

>>66799135
this was thing in the 50-60s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcmGSUWGw4

>>66799216
LOL, you heard it first. Allies won WWII because of Brasil. Thanks Zé Carioca

>>66799205
And that's what everyone needs: Something that convinces them. What does China have to convince the world to pledge to its power? Trade to their terms?

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>>66799220
>like you did with natives. Like you still do when you murder them to cut down trees for a little money.
yes that is why we learned their language, converted them our religion, cohexisted with them, fucked them, adopted some of their customs into our daily routine, because we did exactly like americans do in Syria, or to their own natives

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>>66799240
>entered the allies in WW2 for you guys
>Allies won WWII because of Brasil. Thanks Zé Carioca
lol wut, can't you read your own language m8

>>66798906
>Were aren't a total shithole I swear!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBiMPnh08a4

>>66799220
>>66799216
>>66799249
>>66799240
>>66799084
>>66799111
>>66799106

>implying Pax Dominicana isn't the future

>>66798577
>>66796839
>>66793120
Kill yourself, you fucking commie piece of shit.

>>66796890
There is no alternative to parliamentary democracy and capitalism that results in a humane, livable society.

>>66799315
Mulato pls, why don't you go back to east Haití if your motherland's so great?

>>66799289
Yes, you raped them. And stop blaming us for what Assad and Russians do in Syria. Like I said I can understand Iraq or Afghanistan but Syria is Iran and Russia's mess.

>>66799311
We are in your debt Brasil for beating Nazis.

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>>66799315
>implying that Pax Mexicana won't end all wars by culling human population through human sacrifice

lol I don't mind being US puppet as long as they stop fucking buying so many fucking drugs goddammit.
Security>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Democracy
Also US is one of the most economically free nations of the world and we have proven to everybody up there that we're more than capable in handling industrial growth. As log as no other freedom hating piece of shit like Trump comes around in the next couple of decades I'm fine with it.

>>66799312
haha regardless of what you guys are talking about, but this reporter dude is oh so fucking brave probably paying protection money to stay alive there.

>>66799220
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/bra/
>The top export destinations of Brazil are China ($40.9B), the United States ($27.3B)

>>66799374
Exactly, if we want something from you we buy it. We dont need to control you.

America promotes free trade, not Russian style exploitation. We have access to all your resources on market, and if we want something we buy it. You dont offer enough to not be poor country that cant flush toilet paper. We dont need to conquer you, we buy what we want, and we buy little. That sum of money, $24 billion is pocket change to US.

>>66799351
>Yes, you raped them.
we raped them so much that portuguese colonialists spoke majoritarily tupi until the 1700s

>>66799327
constitution republic with elections > democracy

:)

>>66799312
1:56 nice bunda! too bad he is a dude.

>>66799249
I think that China doesn't need that, look it's a dictatorship not a democracy, they don't need to convince everyone because they aren't even elected.
Also, someone disagree with their politics, they just send the army.

>>66799403
It wasnt bad enough that you raped them but you also genocides them. fucked up man, nazi type stuff.

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>>66799402
>No they cant. They offer nothing.
>You have nothing to sell.
>Exactly, if we want something from you we buy it. We dont need to control you.
You literally just proven my point that having you by your side and having lower prices of our products, literally benefits you thanks m8

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>>66799427
>It wasnt bad enough that you raped them but you also genocides them. fucked up man, nazi type stuff.

>>66799434
No m8 you proved my point. You said we had to overthrow your government and control you but as you admit we just buy what we want, and as you showed we buy little. You sell so little to US and China that your own people impeached your government. Lula isnt laughing anymore.

You lose fag.

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>>66793120
> pax americana

no such thing
these last 100 eyars have been rife with wars, and conflict wherein usa has had their greasy fat fingers stuck inside 65% of the times

its a delusion they tell themselves so they dont feel guilt for all the shit theyve done, part of their cultural sociopathy

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>>66799315
>implying that Pax Canadiana wouldn't stop wars by making pancakes with syrup for everyone

>>66799497
>what's NATO

>>66799470
>You said we had to overthrow your government and control you but as you admit we just buy what we want, and as you showed we buy little.
Yes and prices surely aren't affected by the doctrine of the regime in charge, also it obviously doesn't benefit having your multinationals explore cheap resources a la Chile for cheap and sending them to your home country below the market price for manufacture, it's obviously not advantadgeous at all for American Multinationals amirite, also you are forgetting the money your capitalists invested here m8.
>We buy little
kek, we are literally your 8th trade partner

>>66796622
I'd rather funnel the military budget into space exploration, alternative energy research, science grants, infrastructure projects, and useless but cool looking monuments. The US welfare state is already too large.

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>>66799355

>yfw Moctezuma's SECOND revenge

>>66799497
There have always been wars in all of human history.

>>66799497
>Panama™ an American company.
>Dares to tell anything bad about US.

>>66799626
>Panama™ an American company.
kek'd

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>>66793120
Prepare your ass for Pax Islamica then

LOL all of the familiar /pol/ faces here. Is it a slow day on /pol?

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>>66799672
>can't even spell prosperity

Into the trash it goes.

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>no more replies

Now lemme tell commie fuckers like the OP what the worker's paradise is like.

*You have no freedom or right to control your own destiny. The state tells you where you can live and what jobs you can have.
*Consumer goods are poor quality and in short supply--it can take months to purchase a bicycle, TV set, or coffee table.
*Jobs are mostly assigned based on your status as a member of the proletarian class such as "worker" or "peasant", or because you have connections to some party bigshot, and you could be denied a job if a member of your family did something politically unacceptable.
*If you complain about anything, you go to jail or a labor camp.
*Religion is either banned or strictly controlled by the state.
*You need permission to travel outside the country.
*Food is poor quality and limited in supply--markets often only have a few items on sale. People literally get sick and experience malnutrition from the shitty diet.
*There are no free elections and government officials do not have to answer to the public.
*All media, art, and entertainment must conform to the state agenda--this includes glorifying the party or the leader and schlocky propaganda art of muscled factory workers while demonizing whatever ideologies/people/countries the party wants demonized.
*The print and electronic media only report whatever news the state wants you to hear while not mentioning what they don't want you to know.
*There is no independent judiciary and you do not have a right to a fair trial or legal representation.
*Hotels and apartments are bugged, so be careful what you say.
*Some cities are "closed" meaning you cannot visit them without official permission.

>>66799742
I am not commie, on the contrary m8, I just want my country to develop its industry and infrastructure, and due to our culture we need a strong government to do it just like italy and other latin countries did it

>>66799742
You're right Poland.
>>66799769
Developing industry
Good luck with taking China.

>>66799769
How cute, he thinks Mussolini did jack all to develop Italy when it had been an industrial power since the late 19th century.

Good, the only thing Pax Americana did was bring us a billion refugees, multiculutralism, obesity and violence.

You know, had it been Pax Svionia then the world would be characterized by stability, wealth, happiness and fika.

>>66799776
we can, with protectionism we can, we already top some fields and some we are close other like in aircraft manufacturing and some other shit

>>66799785
I am talking about after they became a country like 1870-1890s and not really Mussolini

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>tfw when Pax Scotlandia is one the way but no one else thinks so

>>66799796
You're already very protectionist and look where that bad practice put your country: High inflation, high taxes and a big network of bureaucrats.

And you want more protectionism?

Meanwhile
>Let's put Brazil at the level of China
>let's invite foreign companies to build high-tech goods here
>but also, let's protect our economy by levying more taxes from foreign companies
>they will be excited to pay higher taxes here in Brazil, just watch
No company wants to pay taxes, man.

>>66799815
>>66799769
Italy has never had strong governments aside from Mussolini who was a fluke and of course his "reign" ended pretty badly for all concerned.

>>66799007
Lost another one.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/30/malaysias-najib-razak-in-china-as-1mdb-scandal-south-china-sea-dispute-loom-over-talks.html
http://in.reuters.com/article/malaysia-china-defence-idINKCN12S0WX

>>66799574
The market determines price not the monkey you call president. If anything China trades with you more, so if anyone sabotaged you it is them. However, your retarded logic only works against US. Ignore Chinese multinationals who wanted to destroy Brasil to get lower prices on soybeans because somehow your choice of president changes prices.

retard.

kek, 8th is for losers. You are seriously an idiot, you have no clue how markets work, and you just mindlessly blame the US, whereas the biggest beneficiary of your own conspiracy is China

Stupid commie

>>66799858
after they nationalized the king was strong as fuck m8, and he personally nominated tons of industrialists as nobles and personally gave them credit to run their factories, hence why Italy developed their industry in northern italy

>>66799860
I thought we knew aobut Malaysia days ago.

>>66799870
>The market determines price not the monkey you call president
exactly, if you own the commodities you can dump the price up or down, or even don't sell them and use them to your own company hence buy them under the market price a la Chile :)
>Ignore Chinese multinationals who wanted to destroy Brasil to get lower prices on soybeans because somehow your choice of president changes prices.
There was thing in the former government called subsidies for farmers to handle maket fluctuation directly from the Government Bank. Now that is gone, I wonder why?

>>66799949
lol, fucking retard. We dont own them, and never did. Brasil is super protectionist. We buy them, and your choice of president is irrelevant. We dont care about the price of soybeans and coffee, it means nothing.

They are gone because obviously China ended them to get cheaper price on soy.

commiefag.

>>66798702
>>66799672
What's the name of this meme ?

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>>66800000

>>66799993
>lol, fucking retard. We dont own them, and never did. Brasil is super protectionist. We buy them, and your choice of president is irrelevant. We dont care about the price of soybeans and coffee, it means nothing.
It became heavily protectionist solely after 2002, before the government payed with tax for the dollar to be pegged to the real to attract foreign investor and buy our stuff, and you guys bought tons of our stuff, including some of our state companies that handle commodities like Vale and others, but after sometime the government managed to get the bigger share of some of those companies again

>>66800000
That meme is named "quints"

>>66800000
"Canadian Posting"

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>>66800000
Please God no.

>>66800044
lol, you stupid idiot. Every hear of import substitution ? brasil has been protectionist for decades.

You are really ignorant. Stop reading commie papers.

>>66799794
but i wonder why sharting in marts hasn't spread around the world?

>>66799858
>>66799785
Also the US industrialized at the same time with a government so minimal that the only part of it most Americans ever encountered was the post office.

>>66800126
>Every hear of import substitution ?
Oh that happened in WW2, when Getúlio Vargas was in charge? He was clearly non nationalistic haha amirite
>brasil has been protectionist for decades.
Yes, until the Military Dictatorship it was, then it clearly favored the foreign investors/ traditional elites for all this years, specially during the Economic Miracle in the 70s, hence despite growing 8-10% we didn't do jack shit and all the money literally went to the elites, when we could have used that money to develop our infrastructure and national industry
>>66800157
That is why I am saying due to our culture we need to this, our elites don't want industrialization, or investing in other things a la British capitalists in America because our culture is simply different m8, we won't risk something and break the status quo simply for having more profit when we are on top, on the contrary we will enjoy life like every latin country, hence why we need our government to do it, also hence our economic inequality too

>>66800231
So your solution to the government elites sucking the country dry is to... Make the government even bigger?
Flawless plan.

>>66800231
So now you admit you have been lying and Brasil has been protectionist for decades.

Brasil's dictatorship also pursued import substitution, faggot.

It is sad that a yank knows more about your history than you do.

Guess what, under Lulua and Dilma money still went to elites. Nothing changed, retard. Dilma was the elite.

>>66800264
>government elites
yes clearly they are those that are the richest of this country and have the power to industrialize our country

>>66800264
unless you have a massively wealthy group of private citizens like Rockefellers to do it I'm not sure what your alternatives are. But most wealthy Brazilians obviously don't give half a shit about the country as a whole.

>>66800333
In contrast to wealthy AMericans?

>>66800333
It was economically viable for rich people to industrialize the country back than.

Nowadays you can continually make money just exploiting the 3rd world and sell shit products that cost nothing to make for a ridiculous over priced amount in first world countries indefinitely.

>>66800276
>So now you admit you have been lying and Brasil has been protectionist for decades.
lol, yes it has been and when it was it clearly developed our country, especially when it was protectionist in the sectors we need to develop
>Guess what, under Lulua and Dilma money still went to elites.
yes, but not the same way as it was in military dictatorship, which literally had no miminum wage increase for decades, no increase in the consumer market, no easy credit towards poor people. Also our public education in the so called gommie government, especially in university literally doubled, our education budget became one of the biggest of the world, and other shit, sure there is corruption and other shit, and thinking about it they have set the Judiciary loose, which as you can see didn't fare well for her

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>>66800294
Yes they are you fucking stupid monkey.
http://noticias.r7.com/economia/em-13-anos-salario-do-servico-publico-subiu-tres-vezes-mais-que-o-privado-01102016
>public sector salaries increased 3x more than the private sector in 13 years

And let's not forget that it's this same government that you defend so much that stops people from making their own businesses with one of the tightest and least efficient bureaucracies in the world.

It's pretty obvious you have a job in the public sector yourself.

>>66800416
country never stopped being protectionist, retard. You have same policy military dictatorship had, in fact if anything PT made it more privately owned.

Even other Brasilians think you are an idiot. Shut the fuck up now kid.

>>66799626
lol

>>66799742
i can telll you waht it feels like to have a drug lord that cut peoples arms with machetes installed as defacto leader

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>>66800424
>public sector salaries increased 3x more than the private sector in 13 years
THOSE SALARYMEN IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT DON'T INVEST IN WORLD CLASS INDUSTRIES AND BECOME CAPITALISTS HOW CAN THEY OMG
>And let's not forget that it's this same government that you defend so much that stops people from making their own businesses with one of the tightest and least efficient bureaucracies in the world.
YES IT'S OBVIOUSLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A BUSINESS IN BRAZIL LOOK WE HAVE NO INDUSTRIES AT ALL WE POOR AFRICAN COUNTRY :(

>>66800460
yeah like the commies that he was disarming (literally hahha) were any better. all your local talent. we don't want another cuba or worse in our backyard.

>>66800356
yes actually. We aren't a developing country for one, and the wealth disparity is much larger in Brazil, but even with our "first world problems" the biggest name billionaires like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet both donate to and participate in huge science/healthcare/academic ventures. It's just as meaningful a story in a country that's already first world.

>>66800483
MORE CAPS MEANS I AM MORE RIGHT!

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>>66800447
>country never stopped being protectionist, retard. You have same policy military dictatorship had, in fact if anything PT made it more privately owned.
kek, yes we clearly did tax our foreign multinationals to develop our own national industry in the military dictatorship government and not really made a government for them. Also it's not like in the PSDB years we didn't try to have foreign investors to literally have control of all our state industries by the parity real-dollar
>Even other Brasilians think you are an idiot. Shut the fuck up now kid.
OMG I CAN'T DO IT IT'S TOO MUCH FOR ME :(

>>66800483
Oh, and look at this:
http://g1.globo.com/economia/noticia/2015/06/pelo-5-ano-brasil-e-ultimo-em-ranking-sobre-retorno-dos-impostos.html

Last fucking place in tax returns for the fifth year in a row among countries with high tax rates.

It's almost as if letting an entity that can legally stomp down any competition with bureaucracy and has no pressure to do a good job since it doesn't need to be profitable is a huge fucking bad idea.

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>>66800530
>MORE CAPS MEANS I AM MORE RIGHT!

>>66800553

THIS IS ONLY 15% OF MY TOTAL CAPPPSSSS

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All Empires Fall
Missiles flying in the third world
But fits and starts are everywhere
From the mountains of Chiapas
To the streets of Cental Square
All Empires Fall
And this one shall too
So here's to the day
When this one is through

>>66800533
Can you shutup about some government you had decades ago that developed Brasil and not fucked it over like PT. It is sad when you prove military dictatorship better than PT.

>>66800527
alright I was just gonna check the state of your delusion

>>66800589
>norway talking about delusion

Lol

>>66800533
I don't even understand why you keep doing this every fucking day, the result is always the same with your fucking pathetic attempts at sounding smart being completely blown away at actual facts.

Tell me, are you paid to do this or are you literally retarded? I seriously can't believe someone can be this clueless.

>>66800601
what makes us particular deluded?

>>66800546
>Last fucking place in tax returns for the fifth year in a row among countries with high tax rates.
You do know that everybody dodge taxes right :D especially new businesses, I've seen it dozen of times m8, I mean my family did it to raise our company :D Also tax return has literally nothing to do with raising a company m8, since companies don't get return of their taxes, maybe in infrastructure and that is it

>>66800624
My ex-wife was Brazilian and her father lied on taxes, as did her whole family, and the places they worked.

Fault of CIA clearly.

>>66800624
How is your illicit activity even related to my point? I'm just showing how fucking stupid it is to put anything in the hands of the government.
The fact that you HAVE to dodge taxes and bureaucracy just to keep a business running is actually a great point against this ridiculous system we have today.

>>66800635
it is every mans right to not pay taxes if you do not care to be taxed by a kike governemnt (which the US governemnt is)

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>>66800603
I don't know I just like talking with you guys, it makes me stronger, specially because I used to think like you guys, and spent like a 4 year depression due to it :D And since I overcame it, my life literally went U-turn for better. And I grew attached to this place, because of people like you that keep on struggling to find an answer to their lives like I did :D

>>66800620
small, wealthy, borderline-isolationist, look-out-for-ourselves European countries tend to have the lowest understanding of how large countries like the US work. But boy you sure love to pat yourselves on the back and pretend you do.

>>66800656
This was in Brasil not US...

>>66800665
>>>66800624
yeah thats the problem, your definition of a "country" is fucked up

the USA is about as much of a "country"as the soviet union was.

>>66800676
brazil has kikes too


who do you think props up their communist government?

>>66800652
>The fact that you HAVE to dodge taxes and bureaucracy just to keep a business running is actually a great point against this ridiculous system we have today.
Not really, especially when medium to big companies have to pay it anyway and can't dogde it. So it becomes even anyway. You just need to know how the system works

>>66800665
>wealthy european countries tend to have the lowest understanding of how large counties work

Hhahahhaha, keep on pledging, my ameribro. Thank god being awake at ameritime is a rarity for me.

>>66800662
I see you found the meaning in your life:
Shitpost about race mixing and spew retardation about economy every fucking day at 3am.

>>66800703
>Shitpost about race mixing and spew retardation about economy every fucking day at 3am.
well it keeps me pumping and running, also I am on break from studying to a test tomorrow :D

>>66800533
why is your pic laughing but you are crying?

>>66800701
Good one...was there a point there? Oh no wait, I'm talking to a "country" smaller than some of our cities. of course not.

>>66800733
great question :D

>>66800603
He also brings up Plan Rubber every fucking time. I wonder if that's his favorite plan.

>>66800759
It wasn't me m8, it was you that introduced it to me in our last discussion

>>66800737
Just answered in the spirit of what I was quoting. You're not talking to a country either, please stop the roleplaying.

>>66800700
You should check out how long it takes to get grants for constructions and such, it's not just about the taxes but also how fucking long everything takes.

Did you know that there's also rampant corruption buried in this bureaucracy?
Oh boy! Don't even get me started on that, you will be barraged by ridiculous papers that take months/years to resolve until you give up and just pay the government official's bribe and he will quickly sort it out for you :)).

Of but obviously you didn't know that because you never had to deal with this shit, your papa will just talk to his friend the mayor and give you some comfy ghost job.

>>66800520
cuba became communist because of your medling, shows how incompetent amriniggers are at being an hegemon. youre so retarded, a little island on your shore got out of control and almost nukes you the fuck out


btw no commies here, just a bunch of ameriniggers runing a canal and a torturer school

>>66800832
>You should check out how long it takes to get grants for constructions and such, it's not just about the taxes but also how fucking long everything takes.
yes, you just buy the guys lol

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>>66800863
Thanks for agreeing with me!
Now you know how broken Brazil is and how much the government fucks over the private sector.

I'm sure you will now realize how silly your original idea of giving the government even more power over the economy was.

>>66800944
>Now you know how broken Brazil is and how much the government fucks over the private sector.
uhm, not really. That is what I am saying m8, this doesn`t stop you from developing a world class industry kek, especially since the bribes are usually low compared to how much you earn, also the guy that you are paying the bribe doesn`t want to lose his sweet money every month m8, and if he charges you more than you can pay, how will he be able to sustain himself? Also with this you usually gain an ally to your side at the government m8 if you befriend him
>I'm sure you will now realize how silly your original idea of giving the government even more power over the economy was.
nope, on the contrary, look at Italy, top 10 economy with one of the world's largest GDP per capita despite having tons of mafia and corruption. That is what I am saying, you just need to know how the system works lol.

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>>66801021
Just fucking kill yourself already seriously, if I see you posting again I will just collect all the shit proving the government fucked this country hard and how retarded you are and make a copypasta just for you, I know you are too dense to ever stop being so retarded and brainwashed but at least no one will want to keep discussing with your downie ass and bumping your fucking terrible threads.
At least stick to the stupid racebaiting threads, the triggered burgers are at least funny.

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>>66793120
what happen now?

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>>66793120
>tfw Brazil is a dystufunctional country full of half nigger thieves, rapists, and murderers that will never create a country worthy of praise or note