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>be Scots-Canadian >Europeans tell me I'm not Scots-Canadian,

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>be Scots-Canadian
>Europeans tell me I'm not Scots-Canadian, just Canadian
>explain to them that "Canadian" is a nationality, not an ethnicity, and that various distinct Canadian ethnicities are even granted some degree of governmental sovereignty, such as French Canadians with Quebec, the Inuit with Nunavut, and various First Nations peoples with reservations
>they tell me I'm not Scots-Canadian, just Canadian

Why are Europeans incapable of understanding how nationality and ethnicity work in the New World?

Why do they insist on projecting their concept of a nation-state on countries they don't understand?
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That's because in europe nationality=ethnicity.
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>>66545017
t. 1/64 scottish and proud
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>>66545207
Sure thing eren mehmed muhammad from Bavaria
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>>66545300
Better 1/64th Scottish than 1/2 Chink, my Finnish friend.
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>>66545344
I am a Greek
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OP is this you?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=84LnTrQ2us8
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ethnicity: new yorker
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>>66545341
OK Pablo
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>>66545017
One Aus guy beat up a Scot because that Scot told him he wasn't Australia but Scottish since he had Scottish heritage. Thughts on this situation?
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>>66545017
>muh ethnicity

ethnicity is a cultural thing, you live in canada, hence you're a canadian
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>>66545583
sissy scot boi
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>>66545583
kek

>>66545631
There is no unified Canadian culture. They don't even speak English in Quebec.

I have a Scottish name, a clan tartan, I own a kilt, I was born in a place first explored and settled by people directly from Scotland, I went to the College of New Caledonia, I served in one of the Scottish-Canadian regiments, and I live under common law inherited from Scottish common law, and a parliamentary system inherited from the Scottish parliament.

This country was mainly built by three ethnic groups: the Scottish, the English, and the French, in that order, and we're all our own thing, just like the First Nations, French Canadians, and Inuit are.

Try telling a native that they're not an Indian, but just Canadian, and see how quickly you get stabbed.

Are you one of those faggots who calls himself "British"?
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>>66545017

Yeah, and how much Indian and other European mix do you have?

Unless both your parents are from Scotland or at a stretch all 4 of your grandparents and you ge up i Cape Breton speaking Gaelic, then you can call yourself Scots-Canadian.

Otherwise you gave up that right when you last ancestor bailed on his or her homeland.
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>>66546133
3/4 of my grandparents were Scottish. My one grandma was Irish.
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>>66545488

>that's better
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Is that the guy the muslim killed while he was guarding the war memorial in Ottawa? He didn't even have a loaded weapon to defend himself.
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>>66545522
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>>66545532
>t. rapebaby abomination of kike, wop, potatonigger, nigger nigger, island nigger, and tea nigger
>possibly also Muslim
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>>66545488
My condolences.
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>>66546044
Golden
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>>66546044
You're a Canadian
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>>66545207
Kek, try that in Spain and it'll end poorly for you. Most people I know won't even use the word España and call it El Estado Español so as not to legitimise it
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>>66546044
But have you ever eaten a deep fried mars bar?
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>>66546684
Yes, and a Scots-Canadian.
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>>66546704
But you wouldn't see a german who has spanish citizenship and lived in Spain for ten years as spanish right? In north America they see immigrants as soon they have citizenship at the same level of citizen as native people, in europe nobody does that.
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>>66546173

Confirmed 100% leaf muherrritugggeeee faggot.
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>>66546908
>In north America they see immigrants as soon they have citizenship at the same level of citizen as native people

>this is what Europeans actually believe
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>>66546908
I mean I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you because that seems like bullshit but I'd like a yank to respond to this
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>>66546044
were you born in Scotland you stupid fuckhead?
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>>66545017
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>>66547078
No I was born in a place literally called "new Scotland"

Prime Minister Trudeau himself has declared that Canada is a post-national state.
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>>66546982
>>66547010
Well maybe not immediately but if you see a chinese canadian or an african canadian who both speak very good english, you see them as canadians right? It's because Canada and usa are immigration countries where every ethnicity technically imigrated. In europe non native people are far less integrated in the society than in NA, the natives and they themselves call them by their ethnicity and not by their citizenship.
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>>66545017
you are Canadian, Canadian is a broad ethnicity/nationality which is any European ethnicity and culturally Canadian ie parents or ancestors from europe and born and raised in canada
same as australian means ancestry from the British isles and born and raised in australia

there is no such thing as 'scots-canadian' and you are not scottish
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>>66546044
Answer the mars bar question faggot it is the only way to know you are one of us
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>>66547396
Does deep fried snickers bar count?
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>>66547158
>not born in scotland
>does not have a scottish accent
>parents weren't scottish either
> sees himself as scottish
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MUH
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>>66547193
If they spoke perfect English and were second-generation (or at least had lived here for like 25 years), I'd see them as Chinese-Canadian or African-Canadian. Otherwise they're an immigrant with Canadian citizenship.
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>>66547286
Canadian isn't an ethnicity. It's a nationality.

And are you suggesting that abbos aren't Australian?
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>>66545017
I have never experienced this
Usually when Canadians, Aussies, Kiwis, etc. claim Euro ancestry no one cares, but when yanks do it everyone gives them the
>muh heritage
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>>66547636
Try telling a French Canadian that they're Canadian but not French. At least they actually speak French instead of Arabic.
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>its THIS fucking retard again
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>>66547858
No, abos aren't Australian anymore than first nations and inuits are Canadian. They are just local fauna, like a kangaroo or beaver.
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>>66545017
>wear a skirt
>get shot
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>>66547858
abos are called abos or 'first australians' it would be considered very politically incorrect to refer to them as australians alone
canadian and australian are both ethnicities, ask someone what a canadian looks like and they will obviously picture a person of british descent, just because your PM is a gibbering retard and wants canadian to mean nothing officially doesn't mean that translates to colloquial use for normal people
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>>66547911
Is this a bait thread? Québécois absolutely do not identify as French, in fact it's considered an honour to be pure laine canadien.
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>>66547978

>that pic
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>>66548043
>British ancestry
That's the thing. Scottish and English are different. Scottish who came to Canada became Scots-Canadians. There's 4.5 million Scots-Canadians. We sometimes get lumped in with the English as Anglo-Canadian, but we're different. Just because they've melded together into a single criminal abomination in Australia doesn't mean the same thing happened in Canada.
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>>66548043
100% this

Trudeau & Co. are just fucking retarded, they didn't just take the blue pill, they overdosed on it. Canada or Aus/NZ have a distinct identity, usually that of Anglo, Irish, or French, descent but with our own properties that come from geography and history.

Also, North Americans have a distinctive look so long as there ancestors have been here long enough. Pic related, even without speaking, Euros can peg me as a New Worlder. It's hard to quantify, but there's a definite "North America" look
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>>66548216
The bulk of "Scots-Canadians live in Ontario and the Maritimes, where they identify overwhelmingly as simply Canadian (all that red on the map).
You're the weird one here
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>>66547911
Man, if I told someone from Quebec that he's French and not Canadian he would probably just feel insulted, or think I'm bantering him.
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>>66548269
Ye mate you look yank af
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>>66548406
Nvm the flag by the way, living here but born and raised in France.
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>>66548048
There are plenty of people in Quebec who identify as just French, and not Canadian at all. There are also Acadians, who are descended from the French.

>>66548353
That explains it. "Canadian as an ethnicity" is another cancerous Ontario idea.
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>>66548435
See, I get it all the time from Euros, they don't know why, but they can almost always pick out a North American. We have a distinct look.
300+ years on a continent will do that
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>>66548216
Fuck off Canadian, you're British-Canadian. Piss off with your fenian shit.
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>>66548517
It's because you're a mixture of every european ethnicities and we're not use to see that as until recently we didn't mingled with other ethnicities
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>>66548406
*Canadian but not French

>>66548517
You just look like a mutty whiteboy, and the muttiness is what they're picking up on as New Worldy. Canadians have not evolved into a new superrace of the future.

>>66548536
>British-Canadian
lol what the fuck?
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New Worlders need gassed tbqhwy
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>>66548607
Plus the too-white-to-be-natural teeth and the greater amount of fat that you lot (potato-shaped head mongrels from the americas ) have usually
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>>66548471
L'acadiens et le québécois primarily identify as Canadien, not French, just visit an /fr/ thread, look at the census map I posted, try posting a picture of a mime or baguette carrying beret wearing handlebar mustachioed man in an effort to insult the québécois, they will be quick to tell you that they aren't French.

Or, look at history, which also adresses your other point of Canadiab as an ethnicity being an Ontario phenomenon. During WWI and WWII we know that Québec faced a conscription crisis, not as well known is that the Maritimes and Newfoundland faced a similar crisis. Those who had been in Canada the longest, Atlantic Canadians and French Québécois or Acadians, were much less interested in fighting for what they considered a foreign nation. This is why 53% of Canada's army in WWI were not born in Canada but primarily in Britian and were just returning to defend the motherland.
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>>66548609
Maybe they're using "French" as a default distinct identity from the rest of Canada when speaking with English people, but I assure you that they absolutely never say "Français" about themselves when speaking French.
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>>66548730
They identify as French Canadians. That's different from just French. That's different from just Canadian.
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I met some Canadian girls travelling and they sang me a song in Gaelic that they'd learnt at school, it was fucking bizzare. I had honestly thought muh heritage was mostly a meme up until then
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My ethnicity is just American.
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>>66545017
My dad owns one of those, he is more muh heritage than me
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>>66545017
Are kilts comfy?
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>>66548895
Nova Scotia still has small pocket communities that are native Scots-Gaelic speakers.
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>>66549046
They're very warm
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>>66548975
What is american ethnicity though? Black people were there almost as long as you (I assume you're white), what makes them not have american ethnicity?
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>>66548975
>just
>JUST
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>>66549161
I dunno, my ancestry is so mixed up that I can't rightly claim heritage from any one group anymore. The English part of my family has been here for more than 400 years (Jamestown cred yo), but I'm also mixed with Quebecois, Italian, Lithuanian and some African.

Racially, I'm considered white.
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>>66549063
Dae thay spak the ane true leed o'Scotlan?
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>>66549336
Disgusting
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>>66549387
I don't know, I've just read about them, I have never been to Nova Scotia.
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>>66548895
there is still some gaelic spoken in isolated outports of Newfoundland, PEI and Nova Scotia
the reason why they've held onto euro culture and identity more than western canada is because
>the french cultural barrier forcing them to look across the pond for culture and identity
>the oldest part of anglophone canada
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>being proud of scottish heritage
why
scotland one of the most depressing countries on earth
literally the poland of western europe only extremely left wing
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>>66549450
Disappyntin. Gang fin' oot fur me.
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>>66549454
Why not New Brunswick, don't they have the same French barrier?
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>>66549412
is your image from twilight princess HD
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>>66549557
England isn't much better atm.
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>>66545017
>WAAAAAAAAAHHHH LET ME HAVE MY SPECIAL IDENTITY!!!
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>>66549649
what relevance does that have
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>>66549595
new brunswick's a bit different because they've partly embraced franch culture, but yeah, its a split between traditionally british and gaybecois
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>>66549557
this guy has never been here. im certain of that
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>>66549610
No, and I don't get that reference sorry. I saved it from /int/. I save a lot of weird and random things, I have thousands of images from /int/ on my mobile. I don't know why I do this tbqh
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>>66549753
i grew up in paisley
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>>66549685
No one says that the English can't be proud of themselves because of ugly cities.
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>>66546982
You know we kinda do, if you speak perfect English without accent and you have citizenship people won't see you as a foreigner.
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>>66549793
Sound like something from Aliens
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>>66549680
this.

i think it's just europeans find it weird that some new worlders are so desperate to be something they are not.

You are Canadian, or American.

You might even be Canadian American with Scottish ancestry

You are not Scots-Canadian because that doesnt exist.

You know who else thinks they're Scots-Canadian? Other Canadians.

You know who doesn't think they're Scots-Canadians? Scots

You know what "Scots-Canadians" are?
Canadians

You are Canadian, like every other Scots-Canadian. And that's ok, isnt it?
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>>66549813
i don't think either country in their current state has much to be proud of
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>>66549793
no i mean the Canadian guy. he has a romanticised vision of Scotland and what the place and people are really like (normal, much like people in most of the western world)
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>>66549813
I am saying that if you live in Milton Keynes you can't be proud of yourself.
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>tfw so ethnically mixed that I don't have an ethnicity
It's fun being an amerimutt.
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>>66545017
Lowland Scots are Anglos, so your already fine, but the real problem is that there's a lot of "ethnicities" in Canada and America that simply aren't true.
Some would say I'm a German because of my family lineage, but I don't speak German, aren't a Lutheran or Catholic, and aren't German in any identifiable way except for pseudo-genetics like having blue eyes.
Almost everyone except the Mexicans lives like a proper Anglo, yet identifies otherwise and it's dumb as fuck.
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>>66549919
I'm saying that if you have a leaf on your flag you can't be proud of yourself.
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>>66546044
Quebec is French.
Natives are Native.
The rest is Anglo.
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>>66549877
cucky tbqhwymf
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>>66549927
>Some would say I'm a German because of my family lineage

I know you aren't claiming to call yourself that but literally no one outside America and apparently Canada would say that. Probably why it seems strange to anyone outside the new world
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>>66549942
I'm not, I'm deeply ashamed tbqh
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>>66550035
So beautiful, why did you let the frogs kill her?
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>>66545017
Where in Scotland you from then mate?
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>>66550032
Yeah, it's a new world thing and it's dumb.
I identify as Anglo, my culture goes straight back to England.
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>>66550076
The Nova part I assume
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>>66550072
>frogs

It wasn't frogs especially, it was the same cancer that is killing Canada now, fucking Liberals.
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>>66547978
WTF is the context of this pic?
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>>66550141
ha
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>>66550144
The Lion rampant is gorgeous, Nova Scotia will always be best province because of this.
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>>66550203
Isn't it obvious? He's a therapist helping this poor woman overcome the trauma of living life as an amputee.
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>>66545017
GOOD BEANS
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Are Quebecois the master race?
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>>66550262
But all of the Maritimes have the lion.
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>>66550493
>Spend your entire history under the thumb of the anglo
>claim to be masterrace
Ireland tier
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>>66550493
Oui
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>>66550535
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>>66550523
long-lion looks dumb as hell though, let's be real
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>>66550771
its metal as fuck
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>>66550771
>no ship
>no leafs

Nova Scotia's flag is neither Canadian, or Maritimer.
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>>66550861
is that a basque flag in there too?
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>>66550771
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>>66550902
It is, their flag is Cartier's ship La Grande Hermine and the flags of pays basque, bretagne, and normandie.
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>>66549876
>Let me tell you about your ethnic identity even though I've never been to your country.
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>>66549962
Anglophone =/= Anglo
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>>66549557

Hnng, yes bare concrete makes me concrete hard.
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>>66551220
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>>66546044
>This country was mainly built by three ethnic groups
>the Scottish
Stopped reading there
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>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""scottish""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" new worlders
LMAO!
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>>66551697
The Scot and Maori ruin an otherwise perfectly good coat of arms
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>>66551910
(^:
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>>66548269
Yeah, you absolutely look leftpondian to me. I can't really put my finger on what does it, though.
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>>66551359
>let me tell you how I identify as someone from your country even though I have zero actual connection to it
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>>66550535
>implying we don't cuck the canadians daily
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>>66548730
Québécois identify as Québécois. Not French, not English.
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