Is it true that Brits don't feel european culturally?

brits are just east americans

>>66519121
maybe the whole empire thing but i wouldn't know

>>66519143
This.

who gives an actual shit tho

>>66519121
How about literally 1000 years of resisting rule from the continent

>>66519167
Definitely not Australians who live on the other side of the planet

>>66519121
>Where does this stem from? Arrogance?

yes

>>66519186
>le evil whitey

we're not european culturally, we're british culturally - there isn't any single European culture, sure there are overlaps but that's about it

I don't feel European because we aren't a part of mainland Europe

>>66519145
It's partly this, but also we're an island. We're British, not European because we don't share borders with you (except Ireland, but they're basically British too)

>>66519121
Britain has often been removed from events in the rest of the continent, and vice versa. From what I've gathered they're very isolated from the other Europeans culturally.

>>66519186
But what do you mean by this?

When has "the continent" as a single political entity ever tried to conquer Britain?

>>66519121
Britain is the centre of stability and progress while the Continent is a wretched hive of poverty, lawlessness, and the seven sins. This is how it always has been and this is how it always will be.

>>66519205
>we don't share borders with you

look at this idiot llf

>>66519220
Various continental powers have tried to conquer Britain many times, with varying degrees of success. It's part of the English national identity to want as little to do with continentals as possible.

>>66519242
> (except Ireland, but they're basically British too)

Why stop reading half way through my post, silly West Brit

the only place in Europe that is anything like Britain is the costa del sol (and Gibraltar) and that's only because we've slowly colonised it

>>66519202
But what is this European culture you're speaking of? Is there anything that unites Finland Portugal and Bosnia that does not exist in the UK?

>>66519261
Hate for British

>>66519187
we're very connected to our motherland. but i guess people out there like the dutch are fixated on british "arrogance" because they're dutch.

>>66519202
>there isn't any single European culture

So much this. It's a meme pushed by Brussels to destroy our identities.

>>66519252
It is part of every culture to not want as little to do with other cultures too. (Inb4 le refugee meme)

>>66519257
Yes, but culturally. You are romanized Celts with french and a little bit of Germanic culture sprinkled on top.

>>66519261
mate you're the one who brought up European culture, like I said - it doesn't exist

At one point the british invented the empire "identity" because it was necessary to keep the empire together.
It didn't work out but they kept it anyway in some form.
It's why they blame the EU for inventing a European "identity". It's projection.

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>>66519121
I consider myself European but British first. Britain is different from mainland Europe but not dramatically so. We feel different from continental Europe because of historical reasons rather than cultural ones. It's not only due to our history being defined by invasions/attempted invasions from the continent (Hastings, the Spanish Armada, Napoleon, Hitler), but also because since 1066 we've never been conquered while the continental countries have all been conquered and had their state institutions replaced and overthrown by revolutions and foreign countries a lot more recently

>>66519313
You literally said

>"We are not european culturally"

>>66519121
I'm not a European. I am an Englishman.

>>66519257
Costa del Sol as the name says has sun so you can't do anything to make it minimally similar to England. If anything it would look like Florida.

>>66519256
>britain dont share a border with the mainland

llf at this idiot

>>66519317
The British identity predates any "empire identity". The UK existed for over a century before our empire got going.

>>66519311
we're more heavily influenced by latin culture than french and german mate

Just a typical special snowflage syndrom, augmented by the brit's arrogance.

Who would say that Japan is "Japanese but not Asian"? No one, because it's retarded.

>>66519333
yeah because it doesn't fucking exist you welly boot, read my fucking post

it doesn't exist, but whatever notion people have of a 'single european culture' is not us

>>66519337
>>66519321

>I'm not a European. I am an Englishman

I don't think anyone in Europe identifies as "european" before their nationality

>>66519121
Brits have no culture, the closest thing they have is watching Top Gear reruns on Dave and being reminded that Great Britain used to have an empire.

>>66519358
Maybe we would feel European if we weren't treated with such contempt by you people for 1000 years

>>66519372
t. Polish migrant worker

>>66519373

Such a poor, poor babby boy.

>>66519346
What does romanized mean?

>>66519367
I don't identify as European at all. European is a non-identity, it is like calling yourself an Earthling.

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>>66519343
it looks nothing like florida you fucking sponge, looks just like a shit british seaside where the sun is more reliable

>>66519393
I know

>>66519311
>You are romanized Celts with french and a little bit of Germanic culture sprinkled on top.
That's what they were 400+ years ago
They've changed greatly since then. They've colonized the world and taken aspects from cultures everywhere. Reminder that American English is actually closer to what older English during colonial times would have sounded like.

>>66519408
Literally not true mate, English accent of 500 years ago is west country

My national identity.

English > Yorkshireman > East Yorkshireman > British >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> European

European is just not a thing really.

>>66519358
a lot of people actually
>they stole chinese alphabet
>they stole buddhism
so how does that form an "asian identity"? japs have their own identity

>>66519408
>Reminder that American English is actually closer to what older English during colonial times would have sounded like.

i remember when my history teacher tried to shill us this idea. Didn't buy it for a second and still don't.

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C'mon OP.

"Why don't you just accept that you're German with a capital in Belgium?"

>>66519441
That's how most Europeans think of themselves

No one thinks of themselves as "european"

>Europeans shit on Brits all day calling them arrogant then wonder why they don't feel European

really gets the ol noggin whirring

>>66519459
The why ask the OP question specifically about Brits if it is nothing special to not feel European.

>>66519463
The UK chose to be America Junior.

>>66519459
then why make the fucking post in the first place.

>>66519441
>English > Yorkshireman > East Yorkshireman

american tier identity desu

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>this thread
wtf I like Britain now
Have some tea, brothers

>>66519475
Every sane european does acknowledge that their country is part of europe.

I was talking about how Brits often refer to continental Europe as being homogenous and very different from the UK

>>66519463
Europeans all hate British people anyway. I don't know why anyone would want to associate with people who hate us.

>>66519395
Just like Florida, anglo scum and spics living together.

>>66519514
>Not understanding regional identity

>>66519527
Sounds stupid to me then. Europe does not exist.

>Brits feel like Europeans hate them -> don't feel European -> Europeans hate Brits for not feeling European

it's a vicious circle

>>66519527
>Every sane european does acknowledge that their country is part of europe.

Brits know we're part of Europe, we're just not part of continental Europe. For simplicity's sake when Brits talk about continental Europe we refer to it as just "Europe".

>>66519527
>I was talking about how Brits often refer to continental Europe as being homogenous and very different from the UK

Who calls continental Europe homogenous? I've never seen people saying that.

>>66519372
>and being reminded that Great Britain used to have an empire
At least your memories about the past are pleasant

>>66519529
I don't hate you Britain. I rather like your tea culture.

>>66519551
Me: Irish > Victorian > Melbournian > 1/16 Irish > Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British

>>66519529
>Europeans all hate British people anyway

Most Europeans don't really care and never think about Britain.

Stop being so arrogant, you are not as important as you think

>>66519545
like Gibraltar?

>>66519593
Nah, I am certain of it. Europeans despise British people generally speaking.

>>66519593
see >>66519121

>>66519571
>For simplicity's sake when Brits talk about continental Europe we refer to it as just "Europe".

We did the same. We always saw Europe as an external identity. Only recently because of the EU shilling people started to consider themselves european.

>>66519121
Yes

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>>66519520
Cheers

>>66519593
>Most Europeans don't really care and never think about Britain.
>Stop being so arrogant, you are not as important as you think

You're the one making a thread about how we're supposedly different. And I see a lot about Britain in the European news media these days.

>>66519593
Ever been to Amsterdam? You'll start to hate the Brits. No offence to the lovely posters here, ofcourse.

>>66519597
Yep. Gibraltar would be the final step.

>>66519606
>>66519571
>Who calls continental Europe homogenous?

This guy >>66519606

Just like most of your countrymen in this thread. You guys always make unnuanced generalisations.

>>66519630
LADS WEED AND PROSTITUTES LMAO

>>66519121
Tea time is not European!

>Russia
>borders Europe, likes tea, is hated by europeans
>Britain
>borders Europe, likes tea, is hated by europeans
Are Russia and Britain long lost brothers?

Every Dutchman likes willies

>>66519576
If you ignore large parts of the 20th century, Germany has a respectable history. The home country of Beethoven and Bach.

>>66519630
>hating on the lads on tour

>>66519664
He says Europeans hate Brits, that doesn't mean Europe is a homogenous place. You are making the implication that you can't hate Britain unless you are similar to others who hate Britain. That makes no sense. It's really stupid.

>>66519626
>And I see a lot about Britain in the European news media

Ah yes, because you follow every european country's media closely.

>>66519630
Last time I checked Amsterdam was not all of europe

>>66519709
>Ah yes, because you follow every european country's media closely.

I check some European media regularly. Not every country. I see Britain in the news a lot.

>>66519691
Yes, just look at chavs.

Filthy stinking poms are just poms, not European.

>>66519741
Do chavs squad? If so, then there must be ancient magic going on.

>>66519734
Confirmation bias + brexit

>>66519777
sometimes

>>66519121
european culturally doesn't exist and nobody feels european. How can greeks be considered similar to swedish or poles similar to spanish? There are no reasons to this shit

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>>66519808

>>66519839
Is that a half-nigger?

>>66519430
Good thing the colonial era was ~300 years ago then.

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>>66519862
She is from Sicily so we can consider her arab

When did the EU try to push a single identity?

>>66519143
Stop saying bullshit please

I don't feel very european fåvæ

>>66520009
>>66519996
>>66519808

I should have worded this differently, but i'm not talking about identity. I'm talking about the generalizations they always make about "the continent" and speaking about European (not the EU) as if they are not part of it

>>66520124
>speaking about European (not the EU) as if they are not part of it

The Spanish anon just said they did the same thing >>66519612

In Nordic countries they often do the same too.

Stop picking on us when loads of other Europeans do exactly the same. You're picking on us because you're obsessed or something.

>>66519143
Yep

>>66519996
All the time. Eurovision is blatant propaganda for example. And it also tries to promote homsexuality in Eastern Europe.

>>66519996
Never. The motto of the EU is
In Varietate Unitas
Being different from another is what makes a European.

Basically a place of special snowflakes

>>66520240
>Being different from another is what makes a European.

top kek, so rapefugees are european

>>66520229
Only reason that bearded lady won.
>2nd place butthurt
...no :'(

>>66520240
>Being different from another is what makes a European.
That's one vague identity

>>66519143
Brits are just Canadians cosplaying as Europeans

>>66520240
>The motto of the EU is
>In Varietate Unitas
Yet they constantly push to make europe more homogenous

>>66520366
i don't get it

>>66519121
Ireland and the UK arent connected to the rest of Europe and we arent ib the schengen zone

If you live in Belgium and you can drive across the border to France to go shopping you probably would start to feel connected with other countries

We dont really get that feeling of conncection with other European countries

>>66520474
the shopping is probably a bad example
what I mean is if you can so easily travel between countries you will feel more connected

>>66519121

It's a fucking dumb idea mostly purported by the retards in the South East who don't understand geography, or their own history of getting shit on by invaders and causing trouble for the rest of the country.

Funnily enough, you don't get this 'We're independent from continental europe, and all it's evil factions' when the bastards start rolling in, then it's 'we should make peace with our insane germanic allies, we share a common heritage'.

>>66519186

>resisting rule

That's only true for the last 70 years at best, and mainly from people who claim the evil Joos are controlling everything, and thus we need to be conquered in order to save us. Everything else was back and forth,i.e. the hundred years war, the crusades etc.

>>66520474
>>66520517
Yeah, but it also means that criminal gangs from eastern europe can move freely in and out of your country, and since the police is only working in their own country they can pretty much do whatever they want.

Burglaries skyrocketed in germany after the schengen treaty was implemented and not even 2% of burglars get convicted. No joke.

>>66520474
So what? If you live in the west of the Netherlands or the centre/west of France you will never do this often.

>>66520474
i don't really have that feeling at all, already feel like i'm in a different country as soon as i leave my province

>>66520124
Europe is that landmass south of Denmark and north of Africa.

>>66520794
OP doesn't care if you also call it "Europe" as if Europe is external. It only bothers him when British people do it, because he hates us for some reason

>>66519121
Nobody feels European

>>66519121
>s if there is anything that unites mainland Europe culturally that the UK does not have.

decent food?

>>66520887
Kind of true 2bh

Norway is not that european, Britain on the other hand is quintessentially european. I can't think of any more european countries than the UK

>>66520887
The Europeans are probably booty blasted that you Brits are cancelling your club membership.

>>66520934
Holland is also in Europe Bart. Finland too.

>>66520945
OP here, that's not me.

>>66520945
In a sense we are quintessentially European because we're a mix of Nordic, French, German, Dutch and native Briton cultures.

>>66520953
Most Europeans on /int/ *wanted* us to leave the EU because they want to see us weakened. Conventional wisdom says it will be bad for the UK, although I'm not too sure.

>>66521015
>native Briton cultures

No such thing you racist

>>66521027
I dunno m8, don't think anyone else put yeast spread on toast.

>>66521015
In reality british modernism is colonial imports and has fuck all to do with Europe.

>>66519337
Englishmen are European.

Even the name English comes from the "continent" (Anglii).

The island is called Alba and its inhabitants are Britons and Scoti.

>>66521070
How do you define "British modernism"?

>>66519121
>Is it true that Brits don't feel european culturally?
Personally no, that is not true

>I've often heard the somewhat condescending opinion that Britain is very different from mainland Europe
this is a meme peddled by politicians or povvos who have either never spent more time in europe than a week or 2 holiday, or don't have any mates from continental europe

>as if there is anything that unites mainland Europe culturally that the UK does not have.
physically being connected does make a difference. it costs us comparably alot of money to go to mainland europe. You can drive 2 hours and be in several different countries. We can do the time but on a train, but pay £100 for the privilege

>Where does this stem from? Arrogance? Ignorance?
a bit of both, depending on who is involved

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>>66519121
I believe you're asking this because of brexit. But here's what you got to understand:
The truth of the day isn't the truth, and the brexit has nothing to do with culture.
Brits have been caught on and off doing very serious nasties behind the backs of european union and its members. On top of that they've continued those actions like nothing happened. This has earned the brits #1 place on the european diplomatic shitlist and thus neutered their ability to do legitimate business in EU.
If you think Greece cant be trusted, then you've not dealt with the Brits.

The brits are Civitas Non Grata of EU.
Brexit is a sort of attempt to save the british pride.

Like with workplaces: it's better to resign than to be fired.

>>66521140
woah deja vu

>>66519121
it all stems from the fact that they're objectively the least successful germanic nation

this combined with their rape baby french genes makes that they enter a weird mental state that in which they think they're special and different

>>66519463
So what, we call the Dutch arrogant every day, doesn't mean they will suddenly claim they're not European. Fucking crybabies.

>>66521015
>Britain
>Nordic

That's pushing it. Just because we colonized Indonesia doesn't mean Indonesia has any low country culture

>>66521182
>Britain
>germanic

only the upper class

>>66521239
What is the Danelaw? I didn't say we're Nordic, but we have Nordic influences due to being ruled by them for a fairly long period of time

>>66521239
What a horrible comparison

>>66521088
The part of british culture that has its origins in colonial modernity. It's like how finns are used to eating potatos but have only been doing it since the 1700s.

>>66521346
A little more than a century of Danish colonization

Compare that to, 4 centuries of Dutch colonization of the indies.

>>66521383
Oh yes?

>>66521276
No.

Yes it is true

We'd rather hang out with USA and CANZUK than the French, Dutch and Germans. Being on an island isolated from much foreign influence also helps us develop a strongly independent identity.

>>66521432
>The part of british culture that has its origins in colonial modernity.
So tea, curry, and what else?

>>66521442
>Compare that to, 4 centuries of Dutch colonization of the indies.

Hmm. Please tell us all about the massive influence of Dutch on the Indonesian language.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/trail/conquest/after_viking/legacy_vikings_01.shtml

>>66521442
Yes, very much so. Nordics partially settled the UK before Danelaw(Beowulf is a nordic tale) and had massive impact on the language. The comparison is actually so bad I think I'm being baited.

>>66519121
Some feel European

others claim not to be because they're edgelords.

>>66521559
>Please tell us all about the massive influence of Dutch on the Indonesian language.
Indonesian language has loads of Dutch loanwords.

>>66521669
>48.1%

>>66521681
Oh wow some loanwords? Goodness me how impressive.

Serious question, are you pretending to be retarded? Although to be fair it's an amazing achievement to be there for 4 centuries and your biggest influence on their language is some loanwords. Wow.

>>66521747
t.anglo with an understanding of linguistics

>>66521559
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/trail/conquest/after_viking/legacy_vikings_01.shtml

This site claims mutual intelligibility between old Norse and Anglo Saxon which is very much so disputed.

http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t10712.htm

So I would take a lot of it with a grain of salt

Also the influence is percentually very small.

>>66521747
The only thing Norse really did was loanwords as well

>>66519121
This is true for me. But i don't feel British culturally either.

just an idiot who thinks that even if we stayed in the european union, we'd still be gone to shit.

>>66519121
>Where does this stem from?
We're an island that spent about 800 years fucking in mainland europe to stop a united european superpower

>>66519691
Its all part if the great game

>>66519367
I do.

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>>66519691
Yes

>>66519121
I think a lot of Brits do not feel European.

I don't think it's condescending to say that the geographical reality of the continent affects the culture of the continent over many centuries.

Personally I feel English, British, and European. And I voted leave.

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>all european countries are the same
>but we are so different

>>66519408
Today I learned that American rednecks and hillbillies sound more like colonial English than modern Brits.

Ignore all the Scot cucks

No Briton feels "European" only liberal art students and scots claim to be