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>you wake up >Europe is now divided into countries by language

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>you wake up
>Europe is now divided into countries by language rather than by state

How do you feel?
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>>66155066
More coast = more headroom
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>>66155066
if it's divided by most popular language not like on the map i'm okay
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>>66155066
nothing of importance was lost
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>>66155066
I will now live in a country together with Flemish, not really something I think is a good idea but still, could be worse. I am going to need a passport to visit most of my family though, who live in memeland on this map. A "country" where they speak 3 totally unintelligible dialects of the same language. Westerlauwer Frisian is a language separate (though linked) of Dutch, but is is also another language than meme-Frisian.
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>>66155066
>France loses brittany and alsace lorraine

Kek we made sure no one spoke briton for more than one century and alsacians speak french so we keep this one too

Overall it's a win
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>>66155066
>implying s*mi is majority in any of the yellow area in sweden
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>Northern Sweden not majority swedishspeaking
Whatever
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>>66155066
G R O S S
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Catalonia, Balearic Islands and Valencia region are bilingual areas. Also mostly speak Spanish.
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>>66155426
S U U R I
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>several Turkish enclaves
That can't be good
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>>66155422
>any part of sweden majority swedish speaking
You fool no one Ahmed
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>>66155066
Switzerland is such a joke.
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>>66155066
When the fuck was this linguist map made?
600 ad?
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>>66155550
at least we don't speak a bastardized version of danish
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>>66155585
>bastardized
>implying Danish wasn't terrible form the start.
We improved it
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>>66155066
le großgermanium faec
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>>66155651
>We improved it
more like you got cucked hard by the d*ne but had the fortune of danish being so bad of a """""""language""""""" that any other version of it is an automatic improvement
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>>66155773
Better to be cucked by Danes than be cucked by muslims
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Then the UK will become an empire again. I don't think Irish people use Gaelic in their daily life
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>>66155838
>>66155773
Oh /int/ how I love you. How every discussion on your pages turns out to become international banter I will never understand, but I like it.
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>>66155066
>How do you feel?
Bonerific desu.
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>>66155066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sMD6W0qhYk
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>>66155066

>Galicia.
>Poortuguesse.

wtf?
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>>66155066
>implying the gaelic speakers would have anywhere near that much territory
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>>66155066
>Bretagne
>speaking Breton
>Alsace-Lorraine
>speaking German
> French Pays Basque
>speaking Basque
>Corsica
>speaking Corsican
>any French territory speaking something else than French
When will you idiots understand that all these languages are dead and nobody speaks them anymore. At least OP had the decency of avoiding the even bigger meme that is Occitan.
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>>66155066
I didn't know that spoke Turkish in Russia
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>>66156148
I do not speak Spanish nor Portuguese. But go ahead, click on this gif. I promise it won't startle you, really, it won't, don't be scared.
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>>66155066
>Silesia no other color
heh fuck you too
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>>66156148
Galicia is basically Portugal 2.0
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>>66156250

Portuguese and Galizian are really similar, but definitely different languages.
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>>66156313
if they can understand each other when speaking it's the same language turbonerd
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>>66156197
They don't understand how Republicanism works
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>>66156279
why is spain allowed to keep galicia?
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>>66156279
>>66156250
>>66156313
>>66156386

>I am Galician.
>I have to read nonsense about my land.

I don´t understand Portuguese, and I can speak perfectly Galician and Castilian. But really, I don´t understand Portuguese, okay? GALICIA = GALICIAN.
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>>66156313
The problem with the question of language is what defines a language. Spanish and Portuguese are on a level intelligible (I heard ), Dutch and Afrikaans too (though somewhat unequal). There are however different dialects of Chinese in which a speaker of one will not be able to understand the other unless he is writing it down.

It seems language is more a question of identity than actual linguistics. But because of their great similarity linguists find it more practical to lump Galician and Portuguese together since they are so much the same.

So, my question to you is, how do you define language?
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>>66156420
Franco was Galician, Rajoy is Galician, much of the influential people in the Spanish nationalism are Galician. this region is the most proud of being Spanish and difference this shit are Portuguese wet dreams.
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>>66156420

Beacause we are SPANISH, not POORTUGUESE
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>>66156386
>if they can understand each other when speaking it's the same language turbonerd

Well, I can understand 99% of Galician, probably 100%. And I am from Valencia and never have visited Galicia.
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>>66156223
they are turkic languages, for ex. kazakh, tshetshen, tatar etc.
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>>66156427
Stop being so tsundere. North Portugal and Galicia are really close culturally wise
Of course you guys have your own thing but you can't deny we are very close.

>>66156420
Because they are mean and the want to unite Spain under the banner of the caliphate of Castilla
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>>66156396
They will never understand how speaking breton is spitting on the ground-tier and we made little children believe that.
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>>66156486
Yet we got our independence while you guys thrive for it
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>>66155921
Mostly everyone on the isles speak english it is just a matter of being able to understand the accents
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>>66156567
>Stop being so tsundere. North Portugal and Galicia are really close culturally wise Of course you guys have your own thing but you can't deny we are very close.

Dream on, we are Spanish and we know nothing of Portugal. The Portuguese are Gypsies with shotguns, don´t come to Galicia i kill you all.
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>>66156279
Portugal would be Galicia 2.0

Better and improved, but we did came later from it.
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>>66155066
Is it just me, or are Czech and Slovak counted as 1 language on the map? And what is that light speckle in Moravia? (they are 2 languages but so close they might as well be considered 1)

If I have bad eyesight, emigrate northwards to escape because now I would be in Hungary.

If I see it correctly, emigrate northwards and celebrate reunification of Czechoslovakia.
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>>66156613
Pic related
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>>66155066
>Arabic is one language
Really sick of this meme to be honest
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>>66156657
>>66156613
Kek my grand parents are bretons and they always tell me about this shit. So funny
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>>66156623
We are fine with Spain.
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>>66156567
>North Portugal and Galicia are really close culturally wise

That just because North Portuguese are Spaniards Galicians in deny.
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Why are countries of ex-yu plus Bulgaria the same colour?
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>>66156654
I did a test with windows paint, they are the same colour.
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>>66156640
>don´t come to Galicia i kill you all.

I live in the border with Galicia and i go there everyday to fill my car with cheaper gas.
Stop me now Pedro
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>>66156722

DELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET DON´T COME DIRTY GYPSIES WITH SHOTGUNS!!!
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nah fuck off
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>>66156438
>different dialects of Chinese
The spoken variants like mandarin and cantonese are literally different languages and are not at all mutually intelligible. The reason they all write the same way is because it's logographic, as opposed to alphabetic (i.e. the written language has no sounds inherently associated with it).
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>>66156794
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>>66156705
They're different shades.
Bulgaria and Macedonia the same same language. Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Croatia the same language. And then Slovania a different shade for Slovenian.
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>>66156722

Te espero en la frontera hijoputa. Tengo un primo informático que te está localizando mediante IP. Te vamos a matar cara mierda, estás muerto, ¿me oyes? Muerto.
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>>66156686
How do they feel about it ? I personally find this hilarious and I know adult bretons were pissed about it but I have no idea how the children back then felt.
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>>66155066
ahah alsace speaking german and bittany speaking breton
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>>66155421
this, especially anywhere in russia

OP is fucking stupid
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>>66155066
This is perfect
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>>66156714
But what is the fleck of lighter color in Moravia? If Moravian is considered a different language, then Slovak should absolutely be too (based on who can understand who all former Czechoslovakia should be 1 color).
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>>66156877
Which is also what I meant. Yet in the eyes of many Chinese they seem to be forms of the same language. The idea of language kind of looks like it is more dependent on borders than on linguistics.
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>>66156686
What is so funny about cultural genocide?
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>>66156714
>I did a test with windows paint

Hacker tier.
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>>66156923
>Tengo un primo informático
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>>66157060
Is it true that written Chinese can be understood by speakers of any Chinese language?
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>>66156939
Well they did go to the republican school and shit was tense between republicans and catholics, even in the 40s/50s. They don't feel mad about it though, just a bit of regret about what is lost

>>66157126
Because the only identity you need is the french one, other ones are irrelevant ans messes with children's heads
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Nation is the ultimate state.

Divisions that split ethnolinguistic are political tragedies, and are unnatural.
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>>66157251
I am not sure, my knowledge of Chinese is a 100% meme based.

I only know a couple of Chinese characters which I stumbled across while studying Korean.
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>>66157284
>Because the only identity you need is the french one, other ones are irrelevant ans messes with children's heads

True brainwashed.
Fuck France and your artificial state. You exterminated your minorities languages, now you are cucking yourselves to muslims and niggers. The world will not miss you.
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>>66155066
Fuck off m8, Flemish dialects are not fucking Dutch and Walloon is a separate language too
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>>66157349
Oh, I thought you were that one Dutch that spoke Chinese.
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>>66157404
>you are cucking yourselves to muslims and niggers

For the moment maybe but it won't last. They will break and learn, like the others before them
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>>66157284
Very interesting. I didn'the know had such influence so late.
>because the only identity you need is the french one
Very true
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>>66157458
Ah yes, I think I know him. He is Chinese though (if we are talking about the same person) so he was taught it on easy mode.
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>>66157404
Germany is even worse.

The French standardized a bunch of Langues de Oïl, which were all a litter of post-Roman Latin languages.

Germany took a bunch of interesting and unique West Germanic languages, notably Low German, and fucked them all up.
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>>66157404

What is the point in saving useless languages?
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>>66156673
this tbqh i can't even understand 90% of what Moroccans say let alone other arabs
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>>66157424
>Flemish dialects are not fucking Dutch

o ja?
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>>66157586
Standard German hasn't got much of Low German though, it's primary based on Central and High dialiects. Also Low German is still pretty popular compared to other "non-official" languages around here.

>>66157738
Everything North of Brabant should be burned, you can't even pronounce shit without spreading throat cancer Piet
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>>66155066
>Europe is now divided into countries by language rather than by state
That's how it should be to be honest.
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>>66157404
>>66157493
It's not brainwash if you're actually French.
Also as anon said, Arabs are a meme. They already speak French all the time, most don'the know a word of Arabic. Same for africans
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>>66157613
I've always heard that the difference between the different Arabic dialects is like the difference between the Romance languages.
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>>66157601
Imagine a piece of rope tied around your great-great-great-great grandfathers corpse on top of a cliff. The rope continues down the cliff and the corpse of another great grandfather or mothers corpse is tied around it, the rope changes, it twists it turns, it sometimes changes texture a bit but it stays connected.

At the end of the rope (and rotting corpses) just above a stream of water is you, the moment you cut the cord you will plunge in the river and get taken away from the rope of your ancestors.

That is what language is like, sans the corpses, and the rope.... and the river... and the cliff too. You know what? My example makes no sense what so ever.
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>>66157819
en Vlaams is een andere taal omdat?
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>>66157871
Never said so. Flemish isn't a language, but Western Flemish and Limburgish are often counted as seperate because they're highly different from the Dutch standard tongue. Same thing happens with Walloon too.
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>>66157854
but there's a complete dialect continuum and apperently very little politcal/cultural incentive to call it another language, therefor we call it the same language
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>>66158023
ja, maar hetzelfde geldt voor bepaalde Nederlandse Nederlandsdialecten, denk aan nedersaksisch en nederlands limburgs. Omdat er een continuüm is van de Panne tot Delfzijl zeggen we dat het één taal is.
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>>66158126
Well that continuum used to exist too with German, though it has become much less visible thanks to standard languages.
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>>66157863
>You know what? My example makes no sense what so ever.

Hijo de puta. I do not like to waste my valuable time after siesta.
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>>66158126
And because it's a dialect continuum there's no real reason to call i.e. Western Flemish a dialect of Hollandish Dutch, since it all happened for political reasons.

>nederlands limburgs
Is there such a big difference? I lived in Dutch Limburg for 3 years and that whole Oost-Limburgs stuff sounds like a joke to me
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>>66157863
Kek.
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>>66155066
i wish
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>>66155550
Are you fucking dumb you norweigan piece of fucking shit?
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>>66155921
>I don't think Irish people use Gaelic in their daily life
80-100,000 in the Gaeltacht use it in day to day life, teachers have to use it at least 5 times a week in order to teach it, and the Courts/public sector/Government departments all need to have an ability to speak in it.

There's probably 200-500,000 competent Irish speakers in the Republic.
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>>66155921
Do you know what a Gaeltacht is?

>I don't think
Evidently.
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>>66155066
Somewhat better, but still I have to cope with the Catalans and their shenanigans.
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>>66155514
Like most of the non national languages represented here. It's about native languages, not imposed ones m80. Do you think Spanish is actually native to Balearic Islands or Valencia m80?

kek
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>>66158891
>Do you think Spanish is actually native to Balearic Islands or Valencia m80?

How can a language be native to a place? Places do not have language, people have language, and mostly Catalans, Valencians and Balearics have Spanish as native language.
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>>66155066
That map is full of bullshit m8
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>>66155066
>switzerland
but that's wrong
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>>66155066
Great. I'd move to luxembourg or switzerland.
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>>66159102
>How can a language be native to a place? Places do not have language, people have language, and mostly Catalans, Valencians and Balearics have Spanish as native language.

Yeah, languages are native to places m80. Look at the map. It's not about what minority speaks what language, is what language is native to what place. Stop eating UPyD propaganda, it's 2016 and that party is dead.
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>>66159473
Your local government sure was very creative in creating flags.
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>>66155066
I'm okay with this
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>>66159473
>it's 2016
>i really believe that the territories have languages

I see. Very nineteenth.
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>>66159665
>Your local government sure was very creative in creating flags.
our flag has a long history, all flags represent Valencia, the city and the region. The middle one is just a meme, provinces don't have flags, they are just centralist administrative divisions that nobody cares about nowadays.
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>>66159810
>I see. Very nineteenth.
I see, very chauvinistic.
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>tfw your country stays the same
ALE JAJA
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>>66155066
What a mememap.
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>>66155066
>in the Gaeltacht
>no one even speaks Irish here
The government needs to redo their borders, my village didn't even speak Irish 100 years ago let alone today.
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