ITT: shit muslim says >you don't know anything about

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>Islam is a religion of peace

>it's the self hating Indonesian again
Lel

>>66130265
>implying i ever touch the ponzi bullshit that is islam
>country role-play and generalizing
lmaoo

>>66130365
>Live in the country with the highest Muslim population
>I never touch it I swear
Lmao

>ISIS aren't true Muslims

>>66131025
>11/12 of the box contain orange
>so must be the twelfth
islam in a nutshell

>>66129926
>>christian and atheism killed more people

And they're determined to make up the difference as soon as possible.

>islam is the answer to western degeneracy
literally the different side of the same coin
all they do is decay everything they infected

>""""""""""""""moderate"""""""""""""" Muslims

>Islam respects women

most islams haven't actually read the quran
well same goes for Christians and bible

kind of glad indonesians aren't retarded like arabs

isis hasn't even taken off there as far as i know

Today I saw a woman wearing a burqa for the first time in my life.

>>66131558
mexico yes!

>#NotAllMuslims

> Extremist don't represent Islam

>>66129926
Planning on going back to Chinkland any time soon.

>>66131558
Was she a native Mexican/Latin American or an immigrant?

>mohammed was peaceful

>>66130265
Indonesia is somewhere between 10-30% non-Muslim, and Christianity is rapidly growing there

>>66131558
I have never seen one

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>Religion of peace

I love that meme because it's so fucking ridiculous coming from them. A buddhist could run with claiming that. A christian given the fundamentalism of just Christ himself could by excusing away just-war rhetoric of Augustine and the like.

But Islam? Muhammad the warlord Islam? Initial spread was due to conquest and not missionaries or migration Islam?

>>66136663
The statement itself is an acknowledgment that the core tenants of islam are easily criticized in being non-peaceful. People who say 'religion of peace' are indeed reacting to the fact that its more extreme representatives are far from peaceful. They could come up with anything, the other religions can - christianity is religion of the poor, Sikh is the religion of the persecuted - representatives of Islam can probably come up with something like that and not be blatant sensationalism like 'religion of peace'.

>>66136663
Peace =/= Pacifism

Nobody has ever claimed Islam to be the religion of pacifism. Islam allows for warfare and violence in certain contexts, and unfortunately a minority of Muslims do take it out of that context, especially when placed under specific political hardships.

>>66131484
research Jemaah Islamiah. connected to al-Qaeda. even they are the most isis member country in ASEAN

>>66139349
Stop defending Pisslam you fucking idiot.

Leave it like I did. God does not exist.

>>66140181
No thank you.
And no need to get all aggressive, either.

>>66131046
> But US attacks in the Middle East represent the whole "Western World"

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>>66139349

>>66131335
No it really is. Islam literally says men are better than women. You literally need 3 women to gainsay 1 man in court. And no lomaritalrapelol. Islam gives a male son 2/3 of the inheritence. Islam consistently says gays, poofters, trans, lesbos, will go to hell, no exceptions. Islam says being manly is good while feminine ways are forbidden for men. Islam says only men have the power of divorce and can exercise this at will. So, unless you're a SJW kike chinko loving poofter, you should love Islam. Degenerate.

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>>66140382
Mohammed was a warlord and a pedophile.

You're an idiot for worshipping a schizophrenic and pretending that your desert god exists when all scientific evidence is overwhelming for the non-existence of god.

In the shithole country that is the UAE, I'd be killed or jailed for leaving the cult.

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>>66131558
>Muslim Mexicans
Don't tell Trump, he'll have an aneurism

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>>66140711
>sample size: 2,400
Yeah,no. Kys Murta'd

>>66140771
You have no understanding of sampling you fucking idiot.

A randomized sample size of 2400 is more than sufficient.

Go blow yourself up dumbfuck.

>>66140771
t. doesn't know anything about statistics
2400 is plenty and counter-intuitively the size of the total group doesn't really matter

>>66140771
And none of your graphs disprove anything I've said. They're all red herrings.

>most muslims say isis is bad and suicide bombings are not justified

Let's entertain you for a second. In your graph it says 13 percent of Pakis say suicide bombings are justified.

The population of Pakistan is 182 million. 13 percent is roughly 23.6 million pakis.

23.6 million pakis believe suicide bombings are justified.

If you think Islam doesn't have serious fucking problems you are an absolute moron.

>>66140758
Probably an immigrant

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>>66129926

>>66140599
ALL major religions do most of what you listed, you mong

>>66140500
Well they kind of do, considering NATO exists

>>66140936
neither Hitchens nor anyone else of any clout has ever said any of those things m8

>>66140989
Wow really no shit I had no fucking idea, it's not like a silly example of how "moderate" muslims and Liberals defend Islam sounding stupider when said by an American.

>>66141022
seems really stupid desu

>i am a human being

>>66140885
>>66140825
>>66140810
>hurr durr those statistics don't align with my beliefs? Dey must b wrong!!11!1
Just kys you pathetic kaffers

>>66136526
Let's make Indonesia great again.

>>66141639
you(?)'re the one denying the statistics by spouting some nonsense about sample size you don't understand

>>66140885
>http://www.gallup.com/poll/157067/views-violence.aspx

>Americans are the most likely population in the world (49%) to believe military attacks targeting civilians is sometimes justified

WOW SO +150 MILLION Americans believe bombing civilians is justified? Wet need to genocide americans 2bh

That's literally how retarded you sound. Kys or go back to your pol safe space

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>>66140758
It is going to be one of the top SJW tiers.

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>>66141661
>you(?)'re the one denying the statistics by spouting some nonsense about sample size you don't understand
> his tiny country is a sample size

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>omg da mozzlimz r so savage but when we Hell fire missiles that's ok cuz it's secular lolz

>>66141718
difference is iraqis and syrians are not human

>>66141718
fucking leftist cunt

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>>66141744
>>66141747
And we've gone full circle. The hypocrisy is astounding here. How can you pathetic white pigs live with your miserable existence lol

>>66141747
>oh shit he has a coherent response to my pol b8 bull shit better call him leftist xd

>>66141744
I think every nation has black sheep and you certainly are on of those for the good country of Iceland

>>66141851
we are not good stay away

>>66141818
leave this country. Why do you even care if some brown goatfuckers die? Give me a good reason why I SHOULD care. fucking bleeding heart liberal.

>>66141875
> American reading comprehension
You posted b8 image depicting majority muslims add mouth foaming savages. I simply pointed out that there are just as despicable people in large numbers in America including your pathetic self.
> leave this country
What's the matter? Did my free speech trigger you?

>>66141867
I've already been and dicked some of your ez pz girls

>No, I've NEVER been sexually attracted to a goat. Like that one over there? The little soft, innocent,... tender... um I mean that goat over there. Yeah. I don't want to fuck it.

>>66141956
fine come back and leave some more dollars then leave

>>66140885
What is so wrong with suicide bombings?
What's so inheritely wrong if someone blows up in a milatiry base or the like?
Why is so inheritely wrong to have a concept of resistence in Islam?
Tell me why are attacks from F-16s that blow up homes and kills thousands of people justified and completely alright, but the moment a Muslim decides to blow up with his enemies it's suddenly seen as *inhumane* and *barbaric* and not considered as a normal psrt of combat?
What difference does it make, if someone decides to kill himself during the process of fighting the enemy and if someone is safe and sound in his F-16 while fighting his enemy?
No militiant jihadist group has nearly as much equipment as any Western country, so of course, they wouldn't use F-16s but suicide bombings. For some reason, one is seen as justified and the other one is another. Obviously because the natural recation any normal person would have to an armed foreign force atacking his country is to kiss them on their cheeks. Only a mudslime terrorist would resist.

>>66141968
XD

>>66141744
Kill yourself.

>>66142277
i don't take advice from shitskins

>>66142233
there is no way an actual palestinian muslim wrote this. You are 100% an american or canadian leftist. Take off your proxy bro

>>66142303
Kill yourself.
>>66142324
First of all, I'm a Jordanian. And why do you think I'm using a proxy?
What's your point? I don't understand.

>>66142357
i'm sorry pisslims are not allowed an opinion on this website

>>66140982
What about countries that are considered part of the Western world but not NATO members, e.g. Austria?

>>66142357
I can't imagine a muslim actually arguing like that. Its just the same way leftists here argue. That they are defending themselves or its a reaction to what we did.

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>>66129926
>the quran is true because it is written in the quran !

>>66142379
People aged under 18 are also not allowed to be on this website.
You have proven yourself to be a raging racist and a major hypocrite who really doesn't actually care about Islam or war or whatever and only really hates foreigners that he believes that according to his racist fantasies it's okay to attack civillians when it's them and barbaric when someone decides to punch them back.
Kill yourself and take your Western cvilization of peace with you, hypocrite.

>>66142456
Refute my arguments.
Westerners haven't suffered nearly as much from Islamic terrorism as Muslims have suffered from Western powers. This is a fact.

>>66142518
The average Muslim have the brainwashing level of creationists.

>>66142575
We given you everything you have.

Go fuck a goat.

>>66142532
BTW I definitely don't believe that suicide bombings in a bunch of civillians like Belguim's are ever justified. Because in our religon, it's haram to kill non-competitors. HOWEVER, if it's a suicide bombing in a milatary base, or a place where warmongering politicians gather, I see it as normal and more than justified. And personally I would love to see criminals with bloody hands that are responsible for killing millions of people and displacing another millions like Bush, Blair, Cheyney and Albright be butchered brutally. And I don't care if you call me a terrorist. Warmongerers are criminals and they deserve to be put to death. And just because their victims were "evil mooslim subhumans!!!" doesn't mean that it's not our right as Muslims to attack them. They are criminals.

Bismillah.
>“Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.” (60:8)

>>66142876
Yet most muslim terror attacks in the west are against civilians.

>>66142876
>Because in our religon, it's haram to kill non-competitors.
You forgot to mention that anyone opposed to the forced conversion is a competitors.

If you want to kill Bush, go kill him and leave our guys alone. Or don't act like a victim when we come back for you.

>>66142934
Yes, and it's haram and unjistified that they do this. However, most victims of American-led "war on terror" were also civillians, and they weren't only numbered a few hundreds, but hundreds of thousands, or millions maybe who knows. It's not justified but they are natural and should be expected.
>"It is not permissible for us to retaliate in the same manner, even if they kill our women and children and cause sorrow to befall us..."

>>66142656
The average muslim is a creationist you retard.

>>66131025
tell me that motherfucker.

>>66143447
praise tengri

>>66143447
>country got cucked by Russians
heh

What do Muslims think about the satanic verses?

>>66142575
oh MashAllah I believe this akhi.
Those reminders about the last day isgetting even more true. The collapse of Islamic world is getting real. May Allah give us guidance.

>>66129926
May Allah SWT gives you guidance.

>>66141666
>whataboutism

Blow yourself up dumb camel fucking retard.

>>66142233
The mudshits routinely blow themselves up around civilians you fucking idiot.

>>66141747
ad ho·mi·nem
ˌad ˈhämənəm/
adverb & adjective
1.
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"vicious ad hominem attacks"

>>66143657
And western forces also have killed lots of muslim civilian directly and inderectly.

>>66143628
"Whataboutism" is nothing but a meaningless buzzword created by Westerners to justify their hypocrisy.

>>66143689
And both are wrong.

I oppose the war on terror you idiot. I am a non-interventionist.

This doesn't excuse how the vast majoriy of terrorist attacks thag resulted in deatgs or injuries being perpetuated in the name of islam. Or the lynching of gays and killing people who leave the retarded religion.

>>66143689

And muslims attacked Christians for over a thousand years and forced them to be slaves and second class citizens

>>66143735
see
>>66143752

Islam has serious problems and needs massive reforms.

I also agree completely that we should GTFO out of the mideast and stop the drone strikes.

>>66143657
No "mudshit" has killed nearly as many civillians than American imperialists, and for me it seems like the general "mudshit" population is much more peaceful than the general American population >>66141718 even when they're the ones who are hurt the most by it.

>>66143775

Why it's not going to stop the fact that they've been taught to hate you for the past 1000 years

>>66143785

Really because muslims killed over 400 million Indians over the course of a few hundred years

>>66129926
Arabs are the biggest hypocrites in the world. They are a scummy race.

>>66143785
Are you serious?

Most of the deaths are due to the Shia-Sunni conflict. You have daily bombers blowing themselves up in crowded markets and such.

Nigger all you can do is go

>w-what about the US

I already acknowledged the war on terror was a mistake. Yes we killed many civilians and it was wrong. This doesn't excuse what Muslims keep doing though or the religion itself.

>>66143836

see
>>66143798

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>>66143785

WELL HUH?? MUSIMS KILLED A FUCKING FINN THIS YEAR!!!
How did that happen??? fuck you muslims fuck off m8.

>>66143849
I know that. Hence why I'm voting Trump. We need extremely strict controls on immigration to here by muslims.

Mohammed himself said to kill anybody who leaves his retarded cult. The problem with Islam is that it has not adapted to the 21st century. It's still stuck in the dark ages. Christians by far and large stopped burning witches and killing gays.

>>66140599
Makes sense, why should women get equal inheritance when their husbands will more likely have more wealth compared to the wives of men

>>66130181

GOOD GOD, best kek!

>>66143815
There is no source for that number and anyway you can't really say that anything after the death of the prophet was *true Islam* because many caliphs were full of greed for desire for bigger territory. And I was talking about modern history. There is not a single empire in history that doesn't have blood on its hands.
>>66143836
And I already acknowledged that terrorist attacks are also wrong and haram in Islam.

>>66143752
Killing gays perhaps can be acceptable and also fighting back invading force. Also, terrorists organizations blatantly do not obey the Islamic rules of war.
Moreover, the of Qur'an and hadith have been wrongly interpreted by many.

>>66143897

No the problem with Islam is that people think it can be reformed when it can't. The mind set of the people that surrender (muslim) is set in stone. Their goal is world dominance and they hate you and your ways because you didn't surrender.


>>66143917
Fact of the matter is that Islam and it's followers killed more than any other group. Boko Haram killed more people in one afternoon than the Spanish inquisition did in 500 years.

>>66143759
source?
even if it did happen, there should be a valid reason for it otherwise it clearly is haram.

>>66143885
A certain percentage of people are scum, and this applies to all nations, all religions, all ethnicities not just Muslims.
Actions of individual Muslims =/= Islam.

>>66143532
you say it to russian actualy
and we didn't fuck this country

>>66143976
Certain people just dont refugee all around the globe like jews and kill people when they get denied.

>>66143975

They were classified as Dhimi or however you spell it.

Berber pirates

The attack on Christian Levant and Egypt in the 600's a.d

The recent beheadings of Christians in Libya, Syria and Iraq

etc

>>66143917
>it's haram

Yet most muslims including the "moderate ones" don't do shit about it other than mewling that it's "not permitted in islam"

>>66143921
>killing gays can be acceptable

This is why your countries will always remain massive shitholes.

>"I-its been interpreted incorrectly!"

Wew lad. The same fucking excuses as always.

>>66144025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-state_terrorist_incidents#1970.E2.80.93present

>>66143689
>western
Can you idiots fuck off with this meme?
Just say USA like you mean it you chink. None of europe has anything to do with this shit.

>>66144003
First of all, every country that has had war has produced refugees, not just Muslim countries. It just happens that most of the mess today is in Muslim countries. The Muslim person who killed the Finn is a criminal and Europeans have every right to treat those criminals whatever way they wish, doesn't excuse your blind hatred for a 1.3B people because some Muslim killed a Finn.
There are many uglier crimes committed by Westerners in Muslim countries, and this doesn't excuse the blind hatred for all Westerners *just because* they happen to come from the same background.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings
You are only held responsible for your own personal actions.

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>>66144107
I'm not even being serious here but since you responded... Yeah dont come here.

>>66144133
Alhamdulillah my country has no war. I don't need to go anywhere.

>>66144147
Y'know muhammad committed war crimes comparable to what ISIS has done today. Why do you worship this asshole?

>>66144013
What do you mean "don't do shit about it"? Muslim countries are also fighting IS, and so they are also getting hit by terrorist attacks. Pakistan, government-ruled Iraq, KSA, etc. all had terrorist attacks.

>>66144172
this
grow up muh manchild.

>>66144172

Because, they OWN your women. Sorry Ameri-fat.

>>66144176
It all has citations you fucking idiot.

Most of the terrorist incidents you linked didn't involve injuries or deaths and were meme shit like throwing a molotov cocktail at a mosque or a synagogue.

I'm talking about terrorist attacks resulting in actual deaths and injuries.

>>66144006
The prophet said that he who unjustly hurts a dhimmi doesn't get a whiff from heaven.

>>66144258
What did he say about people leaving islam?

Oh right. Kill them

>>66144258
and i say he was a cult leader and your people were stupid.

>>66144006
>They were classified as Dhimi or however you spell it.
It literally means "protected person". They're not treated as slaves, they are granted protection and that means it is haram to kill them.
>The attack on Christian Levant and Egypt in the 600's a.d.
it was an expansion war, but the byzantine had had a plan to invade Arabia before. But then once the levant is conquered it was peacefully treated. The blessed land of Sham is located in Levant.

>>66144013
>Wew lad. The same fucking excuses as always.
because it is.

>>66144330
this isn't exactly the levant but I want you to look at this, mudslime

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza


Have you heard of a man named Ali Sina? He's one of the most islamophobic people around. He's an Iranian-born Canadian ex-muslim, and he founded this website. I've found that nobody hates Islam more than ex-muslims

Now read this and explain to me how Muhammad is a righteous and just man

>>66144236
We have a guy here who throw pie at stupid celebrities.
According to this study, he is more dangerous than Al Qaida.

We have mafias in Corsica who will bomb your empty secondary house if you don't pay the "tax".
More dangerous than ISIS.

>>66132709

American education system at it's finest /s
Please put a shotgun down your throat and pull the trigger.

>>66144172
What war crime?
Civilization rise and fall what can you expect.
And my Prophet (salallahu alaihi wa sallam) is a very nice man.

>>66144392
see >>66144370

Also, nice man you say? Haha have you even read your fucking books?

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/muhammad/WWMD.aspx

>>66144411
>getting your information from obvioysly biased sources

Why should people take you serious again ?

>>66144258
>>66144330

Second class citizens that don't have the same rights as muslims. Might as well be a slave

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>Islam is a religion of peace

>>66144518
>biased sources
>websites source the quran and hadith, Islam's holy books

Alright Ahmed

The references to using violence only apply to a time of war, when Muslims were being attacked and persecuted.

Tell that to Asma bint Marwan, a woman killed for insulting Muhammad.

>>66144624

They also neglect to mention that all the violent stuff in the quoran is towards the end of the quoran which supersedes anything that comes before it

>>66144830
Source?
And what surahs that was revelated in madinah stated such things?

>>66144411
I do.
They're not showing other hadith than contradicts such thing. Clearly prostitution is not allowed in Islam because zina is not even allowed.

>>66144880

It's like halfway though the quran but it specifically states that everything past this point overrides anything in the front

>>66144288
Other holy books also have death for apostasy as punishment. The reason this punishment existed is because it was seen as treason. Even European countries in world wars would excute traitors who worked for the other side. There are many beautiful things in the Quran and you only focus on evil things out of context.
>>66144314
And I don't care about what you think.

“They wish that you would reject faith as they have rejected faith unless that you would all be equal. So, don’t take protectors from them unless they emigrate in the way of Allah but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them.” 4:89


I like this verse. It shows how the refugees can't go home unless they Islamize Europe

>>66145070
The verses about war usually are in revelated in Makkah which is before hijra so it was the earlier part. The sword verses I've read is in Al-Baqarah but have never heard any in the Madinah part.
Fair enough, indeed many Qur'an verses actually do contain several verses which may be considered violence by many.

>>66145017
>Clearly prostitution is not allowed in Islam because Zina is not even allowed
Did you even read the cited verses? They come from the qu'ran too, some of them, which overrides the hadiths

It's a loophole. Nikah Mut'ah, a fixed-time arrangement between a man and a woman that dissolves once the duration expires.

Quran (4:24) - "And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done)"

Quran (5:87) - "O you who believe! do not forbid (yourselves) the good things which Allah has made lawful for you and do not exceed the limits; surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits" Surprisingly the context for this verse (found in Bukhari (60:139) is temporary marriage, in this case, trading an article of clothing for a few days of access to a woman's body. By calling this a "good thing," Muhammad really stood traditional morality on its ear.

By the way many of the things on the page cite the qu'ran, not just hadiths

>mfw leave this for hour and muslims already said most of the shits listed in the OP already

"That Hadith doesnt mean anything"

>>66141818
>there can't be a middle ground
>not understanding we want nothing to do with you

>>66146665
No, it's your reasoning that gets me on my nerves. If you wish to take Europe to its beloved fascist roots, and kill another ~40M of your European "brothers", and butcher each other trying to define what is "white" and what isn't, then so be it. Just don't claim your doing it fod the purpose of protecting "Western values" or "Western culture", as clearly nobody hates Western values and culture more than you "alt-righters".

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>>66139349
>especially when placed under specific political hardships.

Not only are they peaceful, but when they saw off a child's head, it is not their fault? Got it.

>>66140982
Their religion is what unites them, their "united nations". So again, why is it not fair to group them together?

>>66141666
>>66141718
>>66142233

>sometimes justified

So Americans think sometimes hitting an enemy terrorist cell, that is using civilians as human shields might be necessary, which is the same as a terrorist that specifically targets women and children for the purpose of murder and fear? Cool story.

>>66141818
I think that picture shows the lunacy of the left. They want freedom for women, gays, trans (which I am in major favor for). They also want Muslims to spread and flourish with these groups. The religion is horribly opposed to these groups. What the ever loving fuck?

>>66142575
>as Muslims have suffered from Western powers.

Pretty sure your hate fueled religion has more of its own men and women's blood on its hands than the west. Don't pretend we don't know how people who have dishonored the "teachings", or don't believe in it, have been dealt with since the very fucking beginning. Image related, you worthless shit.

>>66147348
>So Americans think sometimes hitting an enemy terrorist cell, that is using civilians as human shields might be necessary, which is the same as a terrorist that specifically targets women and children for the purpose of murder and fear? Cool story.
And what makes you think that the Middle Easterners & North Africans who answered "sometimes justified" all support that kind of action while Americans who answered "sometimes justified" only mean when it's impossible to avoid? You are obviously very biased. Also these "white intentions" don't matter when it has killed much more civilians than it has killed terrorists. And besides lots of your soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan were shooting people willy-nilly for no other reason other than sport and fun.
In our faith, and according to Islamic rules of war, it's forbidden to kill civilians, if someone chooses to disobey the rules of Allah and commit these war crimes, that's because they're assholes, not because Allah is telling them to do so.
>"I advise you ten things. Do not kill women or children or an aged, infirm person. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly.

>>66147348
>cool story

when you have a hostage situation in a bank, do you blow up the bank as well?

>you can't interpret the quran how you like
>you can't take the quran literally
>quranists aren't real muslims

There is just no pleasing them, no matter how you read the quran, you're wrong. I might as well say "You can't interpret hadiths how you like, you can't take hadiths literally and hadithits aren't real muslims."

why are cuckservatives so anti islam when the religion stands for most of what they believe in.

MOHAMMAD DINDU NUFFIN HE A GOOD BOY HE DIDNT KILL DOSE MEN OR RAPE DAT KID U ISLAMABOBEC

>>66139349
>"Islam is a religion of peace"
>"Explain shariah, slavery and instability in the Islamic world, then"
>"i-it's peace and tolerance!!!"
>"you kill people, don't treat your women like shit but like slaves"
>"b-but it was the same with Christianity!"
>"yea but now, Christianity is a peaceful religion that allows your brothers who want to leave your tyranny to come and stay here"
>"b-b-but luh crusades, muh inquisition!!!"
>"muh jihad"
>"I'LL KILL YOU INCH'ALLAH"
>"I though Islam was a rekigion of peace and tolerance"
>*explodes*

>>66152519
>b-b-but luh crusades

If they are bringing up the first crusade they are basically proving themselves wrong considering that it was to create a holy land where people of all faiths could visit and only failed due to the muslims.