You don't need to master perspectives to make a beautiful

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>>3092948
You don't need to master it, no, but it certainly helps especially if you want to have any depth in your image or do naturalistic work.

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>>3092960
I still think Nielsen's painting is a lot prettier than that crap. Yeah, it certainly does help at certain times, but motives of shapes and colors are what really uplifts visual art.

>>3092963
Guess there is no cure for shit taste. Let's hope you're just trying to be contrarian and edgy and don't actually believe this.

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>>3092979
Lazy bait. tone > realism

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>>3092948
but it helps.

>>3092991
Knowledgeable enough to know what you're doing > Being an idiot encouraging terrible practices just because an artist decided to break the rules

Fuck off, retard.

>>3092948
is funny because if you had any art education you' d know that there is perspective in that picture, and that there are more perspectives in the world than linear perspective

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>>3092991

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>>3092995
It helps when you want to evoke a feeling of being there, like starring at a mirror, but as a matter of expression, colors and patterns are still the most important matter. I'm not saying that one is better than another, but they function differently.

And your pic isn't the best example, background scenery is barely visible. Giorgione didn't really master perspectives, but it's utilization in The Tempest is effective.

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>>3093009
I said mastery of it, not complete lack of it.

>>3092999
What's your point? I never said that this artistic choice is absolute.

>>3093005
he said you don't need to master and you definitely don't need to in order to do this preschool friendly perspective.

should go without saying

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>>3092948
Yeah, like most if not all things in art, it's a matter of taste. I personally love works that use distorted perspective and create an unusual surreal or disorienting experience while looking at it, like Anamorphosis stuff, KJG, and M.C. Escher; or drawings/paintings where details, scale and atmosphere is used to emphasis depth like pic related vs the more simplistic, shallow paintings like >>3092963 and >>3092991.
To each his own.

>>3092963
But anon, don't you know that holy icons use the most complex mystical reverse perspective of all?

>>3093121
W-W-What the fuck is reverse perspective?

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>>3093121
Not that iconography in particular though, that's just a simple perspective.

>>3093126
The further the objects are, the bigger they are. It's most famous usage is in Andrei Rublev's Trinity. Just observe how weird the table, chairs, and the buidling in the background look.

>>3093115
It's an awe inducing spectacle for sure, but this appealing spectacle is just limited to entertainment. Art needs a spiritual appeal beyond the rudimentary appeal. Nowadays, CGI does it better anyway.

>>3093132
This mkaes no sense at all and I dont see what you mean
The table isnt far away, its closest, and the building is relatively small, as befits a building in the background
Are you just making this up?

>>3093149
Try drawing perspective lines on the chairs. It's a one point perspective towards you, and it gets smaller. And the building isn't supposed to be bigger than you since it stands behind the middle angel, but the front part of the building is bigger than the rear because the front part faces towards the angels. Every object near the angels are bigger than the ones further away from them.

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>>3093132
Huh....I'm already a retard at perspective as it is, but it looks like it would be an interesting technique to try out. Just a mix of really tight 2-point perspective, and 1-point perspective.

>>3093165
it's more than just fun and games, there's a really deep symbolic meaning behind it. The meaning is still a currently debated, but my own interpretation is you are small before God, but God always faces you.

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>>3093144
Christ-chan? Is that you?

>>3093174
There's no "deep symbolic meaning there", they just didn't understand perspective. If this was a concious decision to take standard perspective and revert it, we'd see at least some examples of using or studying, or just acknowledging standard perspective, maybe not in iconography, anywhere. But we don't, perspective was not understood before the Renaissance, and this "reverse perspective" is just an incorrect perspective. The building is clearly meant to be large, but it looks small because it's far away, these obvious things people did understand. But the geometric rules of linear perspective were unknown. It is very common for kids and some people unfamiliar with perspective to draw in this "reverse perspective", it's just what people tend to do when they can't understand how it really should be.

>>3093300
>perspective was not understood before the Renaissance
I must add that there are a few examples of using linear perspective in ancient Roman art, but it's never consistent, and the same wall painting may use correct perspective in one objest and incorrect in another, and all objects usually have their own perspective, their own viewpoints, horizons etc.

>>3093156
Well its an interesting concept but I still dont see what you mean.
>And the building isn't supposed to be bigger than you since it stands behind the middle angel
no its behind the one on the left. and its not bigger than "you"?

>Every object near the angels are bigger than the ones further away from them.
yes this is how vanishing points and perspective works

>>3093300
>>3093314
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_perspective

>>3093300
>>3093314
>>3093723
Just read this buddy.
http://experimentaltheology.blogspot.co.id/2008/07/notes-on-theology-of-icons-part-4.html