>meh proportions >sameface >oversaturates colors >same

>>3090886

Fuck off, scum.

>>3090892
Stay mad, talentless social media artist.

>>3090892
Sakimichong fanboys crawling out of the woodwork

we need new mods

>>3090886
She knows how to milk the system. If I had her talent, I'd do it too. You're just mad because grinding fundamentals hasnt made you git gud, famous, or whatever crap /ic/ feeds you

>>3090896
no one likes them, they just hate these useless threads more.

>>3090886
The money running into her bank account said she was good. Do you want to argue with it?

>>3090886
normiefags did. Remember that most of your fanbase will always be normies, so of course alot of people like her. If everyone studied the old masters, then not so much.

>>3090896
>>3090895

I'm far away from being a sakimichan fan, just looked her work years ago because of a thread similar to this.

Also, I'm probably better than both of you. Stay hating, scum.

>>3090916
I don't even have talent, and i was getting lots of views and commission offers from just drawing lots of fanart. you just need to have non-buttugly art, and the willingness to draw tits, pecs and copyrighted characters. it's a vicious cycle most people on da fall onto.

>>3090999
Sounds like you have confidence issues . If it were that easy every fan artist would be making it but there's thousands of them and many just aren't.

>>3091013
>if it were that easy every fan artist would be making it

The missing factor is marketing.

>>3090886
If every artist was marketing people still eventually flock to the best one . Pareto's principle.

She changed her style. I don't like her new art at all.

>>3091013
it's easier when there's lewds involved

>>3091057
then go and do it, retard. all that money is there waiting for you to just take it.

>>3091057
yea ok. been drawing porn for years. still schilling with no pay off in sight

>>3091065
post your work

If your art doesn't have that spark people don't care you just blend it with all the others . It's not skill because she was gaining popularity even with her old shitty art. It's all about appeal. How many sakimichan copycats has they're been over the last ten years? None of them even come close to the appeal her art has.

>>3090886
another envy thread. what's the point of that stupid question that even you know the answer to? thousands of people tell her she's good every day through 6 different platforms.

Wait, when did she hide her income ?

>>3091107
several months ago. her earnings must have nearly doubled since then though. last time her income was public she had 3,000~ patrons, and now she has over 5,000. plus she removed her $1 pledge and replaced it with $3.

She originally had about 6000 patrons but it fell to 3000. A lot of newbs started catching up to her like wlop and dandon so she got some ads up. I'm thinking she's averaging around $37500 biweekly now though even though her numbers doubled again.

>>3090886
I like how she renders hair.

>>3091049
Imo her older works, with a lot more detailing, are better than her current works.

>>3091179
They did but they're a little muddy with messy lighting

>>3090886 (OP)
Please, stop being so salty and realize that the quality of someone's art doesn't always reflect their popularity.
There's many more factors to take into account.

>>3091074

Yeah, this has a lot to do with luck... There is several good artists that do fanart eventually and most of them don't have a good online following.

Those internet celeb artists have some kind of snowball effect going on with them. Look Jake Wyatt... He wan'st that popular some years ago, kinda small online presence. From out of nowhere his Necropolis web comic with 1~2 pages got massive because famous artists started doing fanart of his character. Until today I don't get why so many professionals or aspiring artists do fanart of his 10 page webcomic that is never updated. Still, now he has huge follower numbers.

>>3091203
Oh yeah, not sure why but it was always enjoyable to see...

>>3091209
To add there's a HUGE difference with being popular and being someone who is popular and will get someone to actually give you money. Whole different ballgame you're trying to play when you enter that ring

>>3090886
>sameface
Isn't that just her style? Or are you talking about their expressions?

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Rossdraws is better than her

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jealousy is a disease,
get well soon OP

>>3091061
money is not everything, maybe for a dumbass like you it is

>>3091065
it's probably extremely awful

>>3090886
OP has an agenda . The Sunday post didn't take off so he's back again with this . It's all fun and games until their address ends up online .

>>3090886
>Who told this git she was good?
Probaby the people who pay her $500,000+ a year, umadfag?

>>3091350
try $1.4mil a year now. if she was getting 30k biweekly back when she had 3k patrons, it's now doubled that she has 5k patrons and higher priced tiers. not to mention gumroad, youtube revenue, her poster store, and conventions.

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Not a single one of you could draw and render this.

>>3091357
>$1.4mil

Yeah but OP has something more precious and no one'll ever take it away from him...
...wait,
...wait for it, it's a good one...
Artistic Integrity!

Stay mirin, OP.

>>3091363
Yet. I'll do it in few years.

>>3091363
not everyone wants to. her work is highly stylized and she takes many lazy shortcuts (i know because i was her patron and she admits it in her voice over tutorials). Sakimichan is good, but above all she knows how to market and make money. there are however many artists more skilled than her.

>>3091363
bu-but they all look the same!!!! a-and look the water isn't realistic at all!!!

>>3091370
bullll shit

>>3091373
chill. no one said anything about realism.

>>3091378
fuck off

>>3091380
o-o-o-o-ok, a-a-anon!!!

>>3091363
this isn't good though.

being like, 'hey a bunch of people who i assume to be completely unskilled can't do it, so therefore this person who has been doing it for years and years is immune to criticism' does help anyone.

it's not good, it's bad. out of all the pictures ever drawn by people who get paid to draw pictures it's in the 50th percentile, the pictures in the top 0.001% are available online, and there are hundreds of them, why not look at those eh? why defend someone doing the most trite shit imaginable.

>>3091363
My God, this is just ugly. Digital art was a mistake.

>>3091389
Post your work. I'll wait.

http://www.cgvoo.com has free tutorials from Patreon

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>>3091401
but my argument was that the quality of the work on /ic/ doesn't have any bearing on the quality of these mediocre mermaids

posting bad work would proves my point, so here i guess

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Sakimi earning as much as she does never fails to activate my almonds

>>3090941
Selling like crazy doesn't necessarily mean that your work is oh high quality... Just look at some recent Hollywood movies.

>>3090886
If she bothers you so much, work hard to surpass her!

>>3091428
The problem is that you insist to use the word "bad" to describe both your work and Sakimichan's. If you call yours bad, you have to call hers mediocre or average or something along those lines. Or call your work terrible, then you can call hers bad. We have so many words to describe things, we don't need to use the same word for 2 completely different stages of artistic development.

>>3091723
Fuck off shiteater,

How does Sakimichan make as much as she does without drawing actual pornography?

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>>3091224

>>3091730
Sorry to have hurt your feelings, but do you actually believe you are on the same level as Sakimichan in terms of skills? If not, why are you getting so angry at me for simply pointing out that you shouldn't use the same word to describe both your work and hers?

>>3091693
Money > everything

>>3091781
Gotta admit he used those refs really well to come up with a good result that's not a slave to either. It's a little bit sleazy that he cut/paste piece directly from the other artwork, but he at least did it in an interesting way.

>>3091850
is this really where we are now

>>3091866
people disagreeing with you internet? unthinkable amirite

>>3091882
people praising stuff for 'using refs really well'

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>>3091778
she.. does?

>>3091951
eww i'm pretty sure that's the worst thing i've ever seen

>>3090886
Why is flounder out of the water?

>>3091951
the vagina is just drawn on top with no perspective. great

>>3091778
She got to 30k a month without porn
Then she started doing light porn and it bumped up to 65k if not more. I don't know how much she gets now but that shit's amazing

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>>3092044
i've calculated based on her current number of patrons, and it's probably around $124k monthly now. but it's not just the porn, she's doing some mad advertisement and marketing on six different social media. I remember seeing recently that the official twitter for Final Fantasy retweeted her fanart and thought that must have been great for her patreon.

she's also advertising on 420chan.org in the hentai board. she sponsored them for $100 a month and in return they have a banner of patreon up and ban anyone who leaks her content. she killed two birds with one stone there.

>>3091951
>sakimi fanboys will defend this

>>3092067

She is a marketing genius.

>>3091224
>jewjap
kek

>>3090886
Well I don't know what made sakimichan decide to hide her income but it was a great move for her because it's making her look really good . She must of taken a marketing course or something

>>3092067
i don't think she's getting quality patrons from that but on the other hand she's getting people to look at patreon in general so they can find other patreons to support eventually even if they aren't supporting hers

Good let the rich patreons pay for the ads so people can support the not so rich ones

Sakimi does what she does. Dont care much for her work myself but it's fine if she makes it and people like it.

Why dont you work on improving your own work instead of trying to tear other artists down?

In 10 years, will you still be mad at some anime artist on the internet while you yourself have no skill?

>>3091850
That's more than "just refs".

>>3090886
Stop wasting our fucking time with your saltiness.

>>3090886
it's called personal style, and she has one haha you pissed lol?

>>3091372
> hella cope.
All great artists will say they're taking "shortcuts" but 99% of us could use the same shortcuts and not produce anything similar. Watch a speed painting and see how much work/time/effort goes into that. No she's not my favorite artist, but her output/quality ratio is insane.

>>3091363
The only thing that bugs me with this image is that the rendering makes the fingers look like sausages.

I swear to god this board would rip apart Da Vinci himself if given the chance.

Let me ask, who exactly does /ic/ consider to be good?

>>3093344
>comparing da Vinci to motherfucking sakimihack

Let me ask, how exactly do you get this pleb?

>>3093344
>who exactly does /ic/ consider to be good?
kim jung ji has the least critics

>>3093355
>sakimihack
I wasn't referring to any artist in particular, miffed anon. But anyone, no matter how good I think they are, gets torn asunder around here. I get the whole point is to improve, but it's not even critique, it's just "here's why [popular skilled artist] actually sucks".

>>3093344
I've seen a lotta Ruan Jia worship. Died out for now.

>>3093365
jealousy and insecurity. would rather waste time downplaying another artist's skill to feel better about the fact that they'll never reach them.

>>3093367
Unlike sakimichan, Ruan Jia knows how to do a good render.
As for subject matter though he's tacky as fuck. Not nearly as bad as Sakimichan, but it's still wasted skill.

>>3093377
Or perhaps disgusted by the mindless dick suckers.

>>3092104
Isn't he Viet?

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>>3092067
>she's also advertising on 420chan.org in the hentai board
>mfw it's true

I find this amazing; that board had only badly traced Naruto/Bleach hentai for YEARS, she is a true visionary. There's actual variety now.

>>3093379
RUAN JIA DOES NOT RENDER! I REPEAT RUAN JIA DOES NOT RENDER!! FFS already. The guy does impressionistic style paintings which actually really on LESS detail and you ppl still keep comparing him to illustrators ! Fucking apples and oranges.

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>>3092037
You think that's bad wait until you see this. She is so awful at drawing and placing dicks.

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>>3093574
The dick is far too high up, isnt it?

>>3093580
homie you aren't even going to MENTION the fact its fucking UPSIDE DOWN?

>>3093586
I JUST saw that too.
Damn.

>>3093574
Her porn edits are both terribly done and uncanny as hell. You'd think she'd have gotten better by then but nope.

>>3093574
But didn't sakimichan say she was gay on her deviant art ? She probably never seen a real dick before

>>3093606
I haven't either, but you should so some research before drawing stuff like that. Especially if people are supposed to fap to it.

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>>3093580
Yes she gets a bad case of belly dick sometimes.

>>3093606
no, she never said that. besides she's been very heavily into yaoi since she was 13. she's probably bisexual.

>>3093613
This one is almost shadman-tier.

>>3093355
What's it like to be so retarded you didn't understand the point of the insult?

Never mind, you're too stupid to comprehend this post. :^)

>>3093536
bitch the fuck are you even talking about

>>3093613
Besides the fact the girls and males litterally all have the same boring face and expression, They feel really uncanny to me.

>>3093613
>>3093612
Her style looks diff tho

>>3093702
yeah she has improved a bit. there was a time in her patreon when she became lazy and her style went downhill compared to before patreon. but she's slowly picking up again.

>>3091363
I can paint hands better than that.
I've seen better renders on IC.
people just don't have this shitty taste and aim for something more tasteful.

>>3093739
>I can paint hands better than that.
go ahead boi
we are waiting

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>>3093574
>>3093613
she's a confirmed dick virgin.

>>3091781
he has a great sense of design and composition,but he is nothing but a hack and a jew.
>>3092104
beautifully put
>>3091850
it's quite sad really.
pic related(not that I agree with everything he said)

>>3090886
>wahhh why don't i get to solely decide what is good and what isn't
for the record i think it's shite too, but you should stop being such a whiny cunt mate, there will always be popular things that you don't like. grow up

>>3093708
it looks completely different not improved

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i followed a sakimichan tutorial today, 3 hours work.

>>3093919
is that true?
if so that kind of tutorial probably is worth doing, looks like it has proper photoshop stuff that people tend to skip over when they're beginners

>>3093919
Looks pretty good anon, how was your rendering before the tutorial?

What exactly did you use? she has a bunch of shit up

>>3093922
>>3093947
sorry, by tutorial i meant a video process of her making one of her usual paintings with background music. i just picked some stuff up from observation.

my rendering was the same, this didn't teach me anything, i pretty much just replicated her style using a shit ton of lasso tool, the hard brush + smudge to blend, and shiny bulgy muscles with an effeminate face. that's how she makes her shirtless fantasy males.

>>3093959
Still can't believe people think they need her tutorials to paint anything that looks remotely like that? Just learn to paint and then make the face look like anime. There's literally thousands of artists who paint like her without needing to reference her style at all.

>>3093997
this i think, is a bad attitude to have. "don't learn that, learn this other harder thing, then go back to the easy stuff"

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Why does she love to draw twink faggots and gay sex? What the cuck is wrong with her?

>>3094006
Girls like homos. It's easy cash

Best part for her? she was drawing yaoi since she was a teen, she's literally living her dream getting money creating things she loves.

>>3094011
I like lesbians too, but lesbianism and lesbians can be feminine and therefore it's not against natural order. Men who take it up the ass, plug it to the ass, or touch each other's dicks can't be masculine. Sexual deviants should be banned from /ic/.

>>3094018
>touch each other's dicks
*Actually, men who touch their own dicks sensually are also gay.

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>>3094006
have you heard of this thing called yaoi? literally gay anime porn? 99.9% of its fans, artists, and authors are female.

>>3094020
Why do yaoi men look like women though? You know, skinny and feminine facial features?

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>>3094027
It's in their culture. Look at what kind of guys they think are beautiful.

Big hairy muscular guys is bara and it's usually by gay men for gay men.

>>3094027
that's what women like, well, the kind of women who are prone to getting into gay anime boys anyway

>>3094034
>>3094038
I think they're closet lesbians, like those homo guys who like muscle girls, masculine tomboys, and femdom bullshit. Well, who am I to judge.

>>3094048
why would they be in the closet if they're already open to liking gay shit? lesbians don't like males with girls or with each other.

feminine facial features are universally attractive. even western male models often have things like small noses, long eyelashes and plump lips. Anime boys are the ultimate unrealistic idealization. and as someone pointed out, in countries like Japan and S Korea, the entire culture is into the pretty boy shit.

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>>3094048
there's a separate thing for anime lesbianism called yuri.

>>3090886
Yes, she's shit at drawing but that obviously isn't her end goal. She doesn't care about our m-muhh git gud sensibilities. She's a fantastic businesswoman. Stop being a bitch and draw.

>>3091951
I am baffled she fucked up the head of the brunette that badly

Why would anyone pay for her artworks though? Sure, she's skilled and all, but she draws nothing but latex gloves skinned anime twinks having gay sex. How is it something of artistic value? Ain't they better off browsing gelbooru for free? I don't get the art fandom these days.

>>3090886
Her rendering is nice, and she does fanart . People eat that shit up. Her subject matter is boring, but shes successful so I cant be jelly.

I listened to an interview with her recently; Apparently she used to work at Bioware and she quit her job to do this fulltime.

>>3091162
> $37500 biweekly

So she's making $900k a year? Holy shit

>>3094088
i think patreon takes quite a bit, not sure how much, then tax, still a lot though. plus she has to pay the people who actually do the drawings ;p

>>3094083
Not only the subject matter is boring, her style looks like those flashy chinese scam MMO ads on website headers. It's not that I'm jelly, I admit that she's got great skills, but there are many people out there who deserve the money more than here.

>>3094088
Fanart is the new porn industry, it seems.

>>3094095
judging by cosplayers nowadays that definitely seems to be the case

remember when they were fat girls dressing up as a character they actually liked, ah me, the past, so long ago

>>3094018
What do you think of Gay Bears?

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>>3094105
Masculinity doesn't always have something to do with how you look, it's mostly about your principles. I think the most masculine men are the ones who don't really care about their sexual appeal, they'd rather appear modest. Unlike women whose world revolves around a person they love, man's ambition lies somewhere higher, and it's a powerful ambition.

In my opinion, the main characters in Tarkovsky films are the most masculine characters I've ever seen.

>>3094118
i don't know about that, that's like a 'best of masculinity' not masculinity itself. posturing and vanity are part of masculinity too, along with pretending you're not posturing and vane.

women are vane too of course but i think it's a different kind of vanity. like it's a sort of world-facing vanity whereas with men it's more of an internal thing.

>>3094070
Judging by the Patreon rewards on torrent sites, her output is timely, consistent, and her entire painting process is made available in video form. The success of her Patreon does not mean her artworks are the best, but that her Patreon rewards offer value to a large number of people.

Consistency matters. McDonalds doesn't make the best food, but they make food that are consistent, and the value they provide is consistent, and that's why they're bigger than anyone else.

Too many of you seem to forget that at some point, you're supposed to move on from studies. You're supposed to have a style. Sakimi makes money because she gives her fans exactly what they want every time.

>>3094124
I don't really care about the toxic part of either side. While the best of masculinity is ambition, the best of femininity is empathy. Women love each other, understand each other, and are in love with their community.

>>3094088
Yup. Sakimichan if you need protégée hit me up.

It's okay. The fans like it.

>>3094118
>I think the most masculine men are the ones who don't really care about their sexual appeal
Just because you haven't shaved your neckbeard in several weeks doesn't make you manly, anon.

>>3094088
i estimate it to be considerably more than that (closer to 1.5 mil) and that's NOT including the fact she charges 70 dollars Per Patreon Reward Pack on gumroad, meaning if someone Really wanted all her stuff, at currently 57 packs, they would need to shell out literally 10 bucks short of 4 grand (3990) on it all, in other news anyone got that 4 grand worth of torrent? the internet seems to have teamed up to keep all her stuff private behind her million dollar wall.

>>3091363
It's not the best, but I like it more than her usual work, only because the subject matter is more interesting.

>>3092067
>doing speedpaints
>creating tutorials
>updating on 6 different sites
>creating physical prints to sell at conventions or on an online art store

Wow, when it comes down to it, to make a lot of money in this field, you really have to be constantly on top of what your doing and probably draw fast. It's like being type A.
As someone who has poor time management, is easily overwhelmed, and can't finish a picture in one sitting, I will probably never make it. The idea of doing all of that sounds so... exhausting. Her art is not the greatest, but she has my respect.

>>3093344
The old masters and DaVinci learned how to paint without using photos and cartoons as reference. That takes true skill.

>>3094474
it's true, except they just used live models and still life instead.

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>>3094006
>>3094011
Jo Chen has drawn yaoi shit too, but she's at least good at it.

This is the same artist who draws the Buffy the Vampire Slayer comic covers.

>>3094058
Ironic considering the biggest gay boy anime out right now is called "Yuri on Ice"

>>3094477
And that's fine.

It's always better to study from real life than a photo. Getting reference from a photo is great if you're crunched for time to get work done, but if you're studying, real life is always better.

Photos pick up lights that the human eye doesn't. Photos also warp perspective.

This is why I hate "photorealistic" paintings, because "photorealism" isn't true realism.

>>3094479
>Jo Chen

Good shit, like a Sakimichan who could draw

>>3094027
They don't look like women.
Only insecure men say that, who have an idea about dirty, unkempt manliness.

>>3094479
Jo Chen is literally sakimichan's idol, she said it.

>>3094561
Considering some anon argued that masculine = not caring for your sexual appeal (and therefore hygiene), that's not wrong.

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>>3094131
>The success of her Patreon does not mean her artworks are the best, but that her Patreon rewards offer value to a large number of people.
wrong. to normies she *is* the best. most of her fanbase think her style is the greatest thing out there and most don't seem to notice when a new piece is shit and looks like she spent 40 minutes on it. this one is one of her worst imo and it still has hundreds of comments about "amazing detail" and "i wanna be like you someday".

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>>3094445
>(closer to 1.5 mil)
this. and it's not just gumroad. she takes conventions very seriously and always gets dealer's table instead of artist's table in order to have room to hang over 200 posters that she sells at $20 each. imagine if each poster had just 10 multiples of each. 200 x 20 x 10 = $40,000. I doubt that she sells out every time, but i bet she gets at least $20k every convention she goes. look at this traffic

>>3094268
>>3094561
I said modest though. That doesn't mean not caring about your appearance, just low profile. Shower everyday and stay fit for your own sake, not for snapchat.

What are the fundamentals exactly?

>>3094445
Aren't they on cgpeers?

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>>3094138
>the best of femininity is empathy
Ahahaha

>>3090892
He's right though nig

>>3093708
aren't a lot of artists accused of becoming lazy once they set up a patreon? pretty sure I've seen that happen quite a few times before

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>>3094479
Apparently Jo Chen also did the covers for all the Fable games. That's neat to know.

>>3094479
never even heard of jo chen until i saw him on custom waifu's profile

>>3094761
jo chen is a woman

>>3094761
>him
>post clearly says "at least SHE's good at it"

>>#visiblewomen

>>3093574
Holyshit, it's like a yaoi-parody drawing (tho I have no doubt it's not actually a parody)! Stomach-dick AND upside-down!

Obviously Sakimi is able to go so far and be successful because she isn't as critical as you self righteous dipshits and so she puts her ideas into action and finishes her work in a more free manner.

>>3094848
She can't allow herself to be. Time is money. If she can shit out a finished looking piece every single day and get extra dosh for it then she better keep doing that.
No one actually gives a damn if she didn't fully render one thing or if something looks a little funky, at the end of the day she gets her money, the less time she wastes worrying about things looking perfect the more money she gains.

There are better artists than her, but most of them can't produce shit as quickly as she does, and they don't know how to handle exposure and money like she does. There's a clear reason why she's on top.

>>3090996
Not memeing, can I see your work?

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>>3094891

Sure.

>>3094889

money money money money

I'm pretty sure money isn't the reason why she isn't a perfectionist. She just isn't, and that's naturally financially rewarding for her. It's just kitsch, people. Calm the fuck down.

Though yeah, it would be awesome to get tens of thousands of dollars for your art.

>>3094889
What does this even mean? Most artists can't handle exposure??

>>3094059

>she's shit at drawing

She has a shit generic-style, but calling her shit at drawing is just dumb. She knows more about painting in general than almost all of /ic/.

Just look at the complains in the OP. None of them mean her drawing is technically wrong.

ITT: Jealous male artists who find a problem with everyone more skilled and successful than themselves and think being manly is about being dirty/unkempt

>>3090886
Somebody posted a huge journal about that with over 80 comments on it about her ripping off other artists

>>3095093
Sakimi =/= Numyumy

>>3095093
are you literally retarded? you're talking about one of her wannabes, this artist is the original that was being ripped off.

>>3095117
The journal was about how bigger artists rip off smaller ones. This artist was one of them with dates and everything to prove it

>>3095125
bring the proof here if you so sure of yourself. but i guarantee you're very confused.

>>3095131
Search d.art for it if you're so curious

>>3095145

not anon, but I just did and can't find anything.

>>3095145
Full of shit.

https://milanamill.deviantart.com/journal/Numyumy-tracing-evidence-643958390

>>3095125
Best not to link it anyway for saki fan boys to attack

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>>3095145
so milanamill is the journal? I knew it. you *are* confused you dumb bitch. that journal is entirely about one person, Numyumy. It's not about "bigger artists ripping off smaller ones". It's about one girl who ripped off all the popular artists on DA, and that journal was exposing her. Sakimichan is who she ripped from the most.

sage this shit

>>3095167
Keep pretending you don't know what journal I'm talking about

>>3095189
are you scared to link it or something? post it.

>>3095189
No one knows what you're talking about because you pulled it out your ass. Here's a (you), dumbfuck.

sage this shit

Sakimichan is ugly as shit and makes "pretty" characters to compensate

Never seen one qt artist yet. loish is pretty average

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>>3090886
Saki ain't shit compared to dandonfuga
http://www.patreon.com/dandonfuga

>>3094897
its been like a week and you still haven't put tiny geralt behind the box?

>>3095856

lol I lost at tiny Geralt.

I did draw more of the foreground Geralt is in, I just had this old WIP saved here so I shared it anyway. But actually I've been doing a lot of Dragon Ball fanart and passed that Witcher piece behind: vinicam.tumblr.com

I'll get back to tiny Geralt this weekend!

>>3095195
>>3095193
They're talking about okchas journal. But it's a known fact that big fish take ideas from small fish that's how they stay on top. People are just too stupid to notice it because they're busy worshipping the big fish.

>>3095925
https://okchas.deviantart.com/
>page doesn't exist
Ok.

Not like Sakimi's art is particularly original, she mostly does pin up fanart. Genderbends of popular stuff (disney, cartoons, anime, videogames) is not an original idea either. Can't see how generic art A would steal from generic art B

>>Can't see how generic art A would steal from generic art B

because generic art b probably did it better ...

>>3095982
The discussion was about stealing ideas. Whatever ideas she stole from other artists weren't original to begin with, meaning anyone could have come up with the same shit.

Genderbends are common, gajinkas are common, turning cartoons into semi-realistic/anime style is common. Yaoi and yuri of popular characters are all over the interenet. What exactly did she steal again?

>>3096014
hey bro i took your car but i didn't steal it, toyotas are generic as fuck, anyone could drive one

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>>3096022
It was clear you were baiting from the first post but I still went with it

Oh well.

>>3096014
Saki-fan boy detected

Reminds me of Pepsi vs Coca Cola. Respect to Coke but gotta say Pepsi is better lol

I'm confused because

>>fans goin after other artists saying they steal from sakimichan and as soon as people say she does the same thing they talk about how those ideas aren't that original anyway

>>3096066
Numyumy traced Sakimi's artwork and got money for it. It is stealing. There are tons of pictures showing she did that. There are 0 pictures showing Sakimi directly copied another artist work and passed off as her own.

There's a huge difference between taking someone's art and tracing over it and taking an already unoriginal idea and drawing it for the 433536th time.

>>3096014
>>3096066
>as soon as people say she does the same thing
WHERE is the proof? someone is just making shit up. if they had something they would have linked it by now instead of vaguely saying "search this", "look for it here" and no one has found anything yet. because this journal they're talking about doesn't exist. how are people here so quick to believe bullshit and take an anon's word for it?

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Who the fuck cares about who traces who? Bitches just make fap materials for literal 12 year olds, it ain't art institute material shit.

>>3095577

She's not "hot" but I wouldn't call her ugly. She has a confident vibe to her.

So sakimichan is type A personality? What mbti is that? Entp?

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>>3096345
>wouldn't call her ugly

>>3096411
that's just a bad photo, anon.

>>3096411
I want to punch that smug mongoloid face.

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Gotta love how a bash thread is still alive after five days and people asking for advice get their threads deleted. And no, the begginers thread is a pile of shit.

>>3096511
ic - Artwork/Critique, not Artwork/Advice.

>>3096512
>meh proportions
>sameface
>oversaturates colors
>same palette every picture
>googlepose.png

nice """"""critique"""""", m8

>>search for it
Is it fanart? Theres a lot of fan artists. How many years, how many watchers, give us something to work with here.

>>3096411

I like that photo...but I guess that's because it kinda looks like me and I don't like to think of myself and ugly lololol.

>>3096511
a so called bash thread but her fans probably made it to keep bumping it for page views

>>3096519
>shape, texture, and color composition isn't valid critique
Back off to cuckdit, f4g

>>3090886
Rendering, normies love rendering.

>>3090886
She's more successful than you and you can't stand it. That's the only reason she even gets mentioned here.

She has mass appeal and draws copyrighted IP characters so she gets exposure hella easily even if she wasn't already massively popular.

I think she's meh, I like 1-2 of her pieces out of the hundreds she has done and that's for the concept more than anything. Despite this though I can see WHY she's popular. It's not a mystery /ic/ is just butthurt because unless you suck it up and sell out like her (and thus, sacrifice a lot of improvement cause she COULD be really good but now she probably legitimately has no time for studies) none of us are gonna match her popularity.

That's art, man. You either sellout to the normies to make a profit or you stick to what's important to you and impress those with a appreciation for the art

I don't really care how successful she is, there's a lot of artists who make 6 digits a year it's more about being respected. My problem with her is I don't respect her and it's been a long time since I did. The porn thing was a part of it but it started to look desperate when it became 90% of her gallery. So to be honest I don't care about her anymore and it's hard to look up to artists that sell out.

>>3097583
>The porn thing was a part of it but it started to look desperate when it became 90% of her gallery

What? How is the porn thing 90% of her gallery? Her gallery is the same it's always been, portrait fanart of animu characters.

>>3097586
Are you blind or playing dumb? They all have porn versions and If that wasn't enough now they're in lingerie bikinis and crop tops. If you can't tell the difference then stop commenting you weren't following her as long as I was

>>3090886
The only thing that matters is the end result, all the things you listed are just guidelines.

>>3090886
>who
Apparently all the people that collectively give her $30k per month.

>>3097614
I don't think a regular joe wanting to learn how to draw would subscribe to her before they do a lot of the better artists on art station so the way I see it she's just covering her bases by trying to appeal to fans who want to collect her porn. There's a lot of better porn artists out there on tumblr tho so I guess it's just a matter of them figuring out they could sign up for Patreon

>>3097624
Yea but they don't have patreons. Those guys work at companies and she's a fan artist there's a difference. Even if we don't respect her she still has over watch fans who like the porn.

>>3097619
>$30k per month.
kek, that's her weekly salary now.

>>3097614
you're still over-exaggerating. they have nude versions, not "porn versions", and I hardly notice them when they're in my inbox because i don't care for them. just unfollow and stop whining, she doesn't need your respect.

>>3097718
Actually sakimi doesn't do porn or nudes last time I checked.

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>>3097747

>>3097718
As if it isn't painfully obvious I don't follow her anymore? I stopped caring about her art a long time ago and only checked her gallery because of this thread. What part of she lost my respect don't you understand? Doesn't mean if I see a bash thread about her I'm not going to add my two cents about her once being someone who inspired artists to becoming a sell out drawing porn. Stay in denial sheep maybe it will get senpai to notice you.

>>3097763
>painfully obvious
>Stay in denial sheep maybe it will get senpai to notice you.
you sound like a 16 year old girl. denial of what? i know she does nudes, and I agree she's a sell out, but I *don't care*.

>>3097747
She does "uncensored" versions, available on her Patreon.
> https://sakimichan.deviantart.com/art/Rosalina-semi-nude-teaser-554466265

>>3097759
Isn't this one an Edit by Izimaki ?
Raptor Jeesus, I feel like that guy who recognizes Anime bulge in edited pics.

>>3097763
It's not like she was ever the most loved artist in the internet or something lol she still has some hard core fans that will stick with her no matter what so just leave it alone

>>3097759
Isn't that just older stuff from when she was younger ?

I miss old sakimichan too but money changes people

Numyumy was quickly becoming the new sakimichan but got caught tracing

>>3097784
>Numyumy was quickly becoming the new sakimichan
no.

>>3097784

Numyumy remade her account and it's growing again

>>3097800
Her new name is Ciolphe, lmao. it's exactly like the journal says, every time she's caught, she just disappears and comes back with a totally new identity. But it's not only the tracing that makes her shit, she's a massive arrogant bitch who used to respond to people calling her out with condescending sarcasm and bragging about how many followers she has and how she's making a living out of it. Meanwhile sakimichan is extremely humble. I hope she fails again.

https://numyart.deviantart.com/journal/Hellooooo-698244984

>>3090886

Seriously, what exactly has this person done to hurt anyone? It's not like she's out there being a self-righteous prick like a lot of artist are.

>>3097808
I only discovered her because I actually thought sakimi was endorsing numynumy.I used to see her all over her sakimi's Patreon and numys name was always up there on display for giving her premium membership on deviant art. I've been out of the loop for a while so the first thing I thought was that she was one of her top students or something like that.

>>3097820
nah she was just trying to ride sakimichan's coattail as hard as she could by being obnoxious like that. i never saw sakimichan acknowledge her though.

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Sakimi was my e-friend. She drew a picture of someone important to me. Rare proof of her work closer to realism. Stay mad.

>>3098402
is that your gaiaonline OC? that's the only place I know she took headshot commissions from randoms.

>>3094474
>without using references
KEK

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>>3090886
Thought I did a pretty decent job with this. How delusional am I?

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>>3099025
tried doing a nsfw edit as well
>draw dicks for the first time since middleschool
>realize you have no idea what you are doing

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>>3093612
Apart from the glittery rendering it looks like absolute shit.
Can you REALLY get away with anything once you can render ?

>>3099025
Awful. She drew pecks the right way, you fucked them up, removed his sternomastoid from his neck and gave him a girl's navel. nice job fag.

>>3090886
awful.

>>3091693
It means people like it. Your opinion on things means jack shit and you arent smarter than someone because they like a Transformers movie. Also post your work, talking shit on another artist is pointless if you aren't talented yourself.

Problem with threads like these is detractors look jealous and make the artist look bad and unaccomplished and fan boys look whiny and make the artist look arrogant and desperate. In the end it doesn't do anything for anybody. I think this must be some lonely mother fucker making these artist threads and trolling from both sides. Way too many of them popping up lately. Take that childish shit to tumblr. Sage

>>3096014
the artist she stole from on DA is OlchaS. This is a link to the journal where she lists the time stamps.

https://olchas.deviantart.com/journal/?catpath=/

She also apparently ripped off Okami's official artwork book because somebody took the image from the book and layed it right over her's and it was an exact match. Sakimi is a hack and everyone knows it but the white knights refuse to believe that their favorite waifu artist is actually a subhuman piece of shit. She will never suck your dick. She will never draw your waifu just for you. You have to pay for it like all her other Patreon supporters. It's a shame to know that if every one of her Patreon supporters really put in the time and really tried, in a few years, a small percentage of them would be significantly better artists than she is. I know somebody has it in them.

>>3099309
Thanks for the critique anon. it's not like I actually think I' better than Sakimi chan.The point of posting this was more along the lines of figuring out what it is I'm ignorant of without being aware of it . I'll work more on studying anatomy instead of just winging it like I've been doing until now.

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>>3099352
I looked through both the journal and the gallery. Serious question now, are you this bitch? lmao, you are aren't you?

There is no way more than one person is this stupid and delusional to think anyone will believe this. Not only do I not see literally anything in her laughable "proof", but this dumbass straight up copied Sakimichan's 2016 composition tutorial image last week, pic related. In fact, i've come across her before and brushed her off as one of the many wannabes. Fuck off Olachas, this is one shit way to get attention for yourself.

>>3099376
Ive been checking this thread offand on and it's obvious your'e the same anon who's been defending saki you did exactly what the anon earlier said herfan boys would do. Nothing against saki but have to agree you really are making her look bad/worse.

>>3099352
I skimmed over this journal and it seems like the artist is quite delusional

>I drew beauty marks and sakimi started doing it too
>I drew a sketch I never showed anyone and (???) it was made earlier than sakimi's similiar artwork
>stop comparing me to sakimi guys

I honestly don't understand what they're trying to say. The only thing that looks similiar is the Zelda fanart and since Zelda was with this outfit in this fountain in BOTW's trailer. That's hardly original, a simple google search would give you 10+ similiar artworks.

I'm not a fan of Sakimi, I followed her some years ago and unfollowed when I got tired of her sameface problem. This however isn't proof of anything

>>3099382
nope, i'm not the only one who's been responding to that anon who kept insisting earlier that there was an elusive journal about this.

Isn't there a single artist on this board ballsy enough to talk shit in their real deviant art account and stop posting on anonymous boards and making troll DA accounts?

>>3099393
You're the one who posted that broken link earlier

>>3099399
what broken link?

Sakimichan admitted herself that she copies other people's styles so how's that news?

Is it weird that her fans actually turn me off of joining her Patreon? They just seem like the biggest assholes alive

>>3099408
Unrelated but that's why I refuse to watch Rick and Morty. Because so many people are constantly shoving it down my throat about it being the best thing ever in animation. The fans are arguably as bad as bronies or Steven's Universe.

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hilarious.

>>3099413
Maybe if I knew who this actually was it would help but is the point that these are supposed to look a like or is crouching jungle lady in the forest copyrighted material?

>>3099418
left is Nidalee from League of Legends by OlchaS, right is an unnamed jungle cat woman or a character I don't recognize, or a Nidalee fan art skin by Sakimi.

>>3090886
Imagine drawing enough to sell out to popular memes and culture and making the big bucks instead of wasting away being bitter, grinding at fundamentals and loomis thinking one day you'll "Git Gud" by /ic/ standards only to realize that you barely have any followers at all.

>>3099352
I can believe that might happen with sakimichan wannabes that get a big following

This thread is one giant shit post.

Report and hide anons.

This thread is why I can't deal with other females. This is some shady shit right here and I know it's all women doing it

With all the crazy money she's made, I'm surprised she doesn't just retire early and spend her time doing more personal, creative work. Churning out endless shiny, samey-looking fanart shit has got to get old eventually.
She has an amazing opportunity to spend the rest of her life doing personal projects while never having to worry about money, and she isn't taking advantage.

>>3099657
THIS. Why I would never make a Patreon to do a bunch of overwatch porn. It sells but I watch too many patreons get trapped doing it and the day they decide to start making random personal stuff that they enjoys more it tanks

>>3099657
With the amount of money she is making now, why would she stop now? It's not going to last forever, so she might as well take advantage of it for a few more years. Besides all this, I think she genuinely enjoys this sort of thing. Her "personal art" was the exact same shiny fanart stuff for years before all this and she did it happily without making any money.

>>3099657
>She has an amazing opportunity to spend the rest of her life doing personal projects while never having to worry about money, and she isn't taking advantage.

She's just in her mid twenties. She'd be stupid as fuck to stop now. Also, she most likely would have to worry about money at some point in the future if she retired now. She's a millionaire, sure, but just barely and she recently bought a house, so her disposable income is probably much less than you'd think.

>>she's in her mid twenties
>>she recently bought a house

Fucking stalkers man

>>3090886
Why is her lewd art so fucking boring to look at? I like huge cocks and huge boobs and blushing faces, but her porn is so unarousing.

by the way , new money wouldn't know this or people who have never been rich before but people automatically hate you when you make a lot of money. to answer the question earlier as to what the problem is that people have with her it's because she makes a lot of money especially on art they probably could do themselves too if they really applied themselves (who's fault is that not hers)
she hid her income but people keep bringing up how much she makes so it's not going to stop people from disliking her anyway

>>3097583
>hard to look up to artists that sell out.

i bet it is hard to look up when you're sucking the manager's dick to keep your shitty retail job because you don't want to "sell out" and actually make money from your art

>>3099910
Her age is literally on her DA profile you dumbass. The house thing I read on /ic/, so no idea if it's true but I don't care enough to double check. Sounded believable though, she's asian so the first thing she'd probably do with her money is a smart investment.

>>she's in her mid twenties
>>she recently bought a house


>>she's Asian

Hardcore stalking on a whole new level. Tell us more.

>stalker/vendetta/salt thread
>still not deleted
I remember being warned for creating Kron/Saki thread long long time ago. /ic/ is dead for sure

>>vendetta thread still not deleted

That's because mods hate saki too. That or they're sitting back enjoying the most epic troll ever created on this shit board.

>>3100000
Nice get.

>>3090886
Better than any of you on any given day. I've talked to her before and she could care less about any of you. She's making bank.

>>3090886
The millions of dollars she's made told her git that it was gud.

This thread is suspect. Who you trying to bait?

I know I'd like to make as much money as she does.
Please, name other artists who are in the 5-6 digits of earnings doing what they want

She's the Thomas Kinkade of this shitty manchild-infested Internet age.

>>3100264
>Please, name other artists who are in the 5-6 digits of earnings doing what they want
It's not like we know their salaries. You don't tell other people your real salary after all. Especially in internet. I know Syd Mead lives in fancy house tho

>>3100264
dandonfuga and wlop are two that i know are probably over $10,000+ biweekly.

>>3094897
Looks like Duncan from DAO

She sorta ruined her rep with the porn thing but she seems ok with that. Wlop is the only one doing real art now, overrated but there isn't much else going on there anyway

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>>3090886
Stop being jealous. Sure she makes nearly a million dollars a year but don't go picking on people who worked hard even if it seems she's not doing anything special. I myself have been browsing /ic/ for a long time and I have been struggling with art, either you're born talented or you work towards success. For example I'm a furry artist and I spent years trying to 'git good' and I nearly gave up completely until I made a new friend where she helped me and collaborated with me(pic related). Who knows, you might have a talent in a different subject such as circle jerking on threads and bitching about how poor/jealous/untalented but that doesn't give you an excuse to complain so get out there and do somethi g with your life

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>>3100338
>wlop
>real art
>sloppy rendering and shit proportions

>>3091363
>sausagefingers.jpg

>>3093580
>mods
>Bifurcation

Okay then

>>3091723
>a little experimental, use of negative space and abstraction of bodies, visible mistakes
>bad
>repetitive, anime-esque art, no signs of individuality, art unaware of it's own inherent individuality
>mediocre
I agree, her art is nothing but mediocre and all it takes is practice that varies from person to person, marketing and knowing what trends will pop up next. That's mediocre.
Anon at least has the courage to do some other stuff. But I would expect no different from a boar of low brow art snobs.

>>3100571
You're talking about shit proportions in a skimichan thread?

He doesn't need to render he can sell the message when a concept that's a mkre advanced skill he doesn't need to has rendering as a crutch. Even sakimichan started to copy his style. Just compare her early 2016 art to her current art.

>>3091363

But this is incredibly bad on top of tasteless.

>>3090886
I know next to nothing about her but her art is shit and it literally hurts my eyes and brain to look at it. She's lazy and the only thing she does alright is render and even that is ugly to look at most of the time. She's like the cliche meme sellout who just draws porn and popular characters but the art is shit. The artist version of McDonald's. It's disgusting that shit like that is popular and her fanbase is no surprise shiteating shills for her. She may be swimming in dosh but she's literally a walking cliche/meme fucking embarassing. I know people these days only care about money but you can't buy respect which she will never have in a million years with the way she's going.

>>3099916
The problem is she's ass and makes money off of it anyway not JUST that she has money. People rip apart animu shitters like her all the time, she's just getting more of that because her retarded fans want to pretend she's good and she unfortunately has a lot of them.

>>3101077
>> Just compare her early 2016 art to her current art.

I think most of us here who aren't retarded know wlop isn't who she's modeling herself after but sometimes it's worth acting like you didn't notice shit