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So, I have a problem and I would like other's advice on the matter. Long story, short..

Commissioned an artist back in November, artist asked if I could pay upfront because he was in dire trouble and needed money. Since Novemeber I've e-mailed him every month asking for update and he says he's working on it. Fast forward to last week where he e-mailed me back and said he's busy paying bills and needs money now so he won't have time to do my commission and he needs to take brand new ones to pay bills. To add insult to injury he asks if I could loan him $300 and we could use that for another commission down the road.

What should I do at this point? Should I just write him an e-mail back and tell him to go fuck himself? Months ago I came to the fact I was never going to see the art I paid for so I ignored it, now this really pisses me off.
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>>3038207
If it's not too late to get a refund through paypal initiate the refund. He's not going to pay you back otherwise. It isn't your problem that he can't handle paying his bills and commissions.

Otherwise try to sue him. Serving him papers might be enough to get your refund.
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>>3038207

What was the commission? Something major, or some small fan-art? Please let me know.

I'm really sorry to hear it. It's always frustrating to hear so-called 'artists' ruining things for others.

Obviously, do not give him a single cent more. And about the money: try to find out if suing him will be more costly than regarding the $300 a loss. It might be less costly to see it as a valuable life lesson, and just keep poking him until he gets off his lazy butt.
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>>3038207
>Should I just write him an e-mail back and tell him to go fuck himself?
nope, you should ask for a refund.
if he doesn't answer, threaten him to report him to paypal for drawing porn, and ask him if a blocked paypal account will help him pay his loans quicker.
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>>3038207
You should just report to PayPal right away and defame the faggot with screenshots, send his account right now in fact I'll do it for you.
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>>3038207
A. Did you have a contract? Do you have anything that lays out what the artist was going to do, and a time frame?
B. You have every legal right to take him to small claims court, and ask for the original deposit back. He has no standing to keep your money, if he hasn't even started.
C. The only response to the loan request is "Go fuck yourself". He obviously thinks you're weak, and a sucker. This is business, it's not personal, tell him to return the money, or complete the ORIGINAL commission within a specific time frame, or you will sue him.
D. Never do business with this person again.

Get your money back, anon. He has no legal grounds to keep it. Again, this is business, not personal. That it's art changes nothing - he's had 6 months to complete a job he's been paid for - he's either incapable of delivering a finished product, or you got scammed. The law is on your side, not his, and no judge would rule against you, you've been more than generous with the amount of time you've waited.
In the future, when handing money over, have a contract in place, that specifies what they're doing, how long it will take, and when you can still get refunded if no work is started. And, only give half. This is standard stuff - if they refuse, they're not worth doing business with.
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Don't threaten OP don't listen to this idiots. Never report to PayPal it can make you look bad. I bet the artist is just busy.
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>>3038689
Also I need to add that reporting someone to PayPal will freeze there bank account and you can effective ruin their life. Don't be a jerk and report people for being slow with work.
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>>3038689
>>3038690
You are too gullible. The guy is probably just a lazy fuck, and even if he's having trouble it's none of OP's business. He's basically a thief at this point.
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>paying upfront like a fucking moron

Hey, OP can I borrow some money you dumb fuck?
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>>3038690
>>3038699
Both points made are true tho, he is a thief at this point and you have every right to take actions against this but ruining his life for some pocket change?(Since OP can pay money for fanart i assume it is pocket change for him) This should be considered before doing something as heavy as reporting him to Paypal and getting his bank account frozen.

I am not saying that he should go unpunished, maybe difaming him with screenshots would be more of a suitable lesson, taking away future customers, but who am i to give lessons about being a "good" person? At last it is OP's choice to decide between giving him a slap in the ass or fking him for life.
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>all these people talking about engaging in a lawsuit over a couple hundred dollars

My sides

Anyway OP, just try and get your money back through the usual channels. Don't waste any more of your time on the guy other than that. Don't get mad, get even.

>>3038690

>slow with work
>7 months for a single image with no proof he's even started working on it and then he has the audacity to ask OP if he can borrow hundreds of dollars more (with no proof he's in actual financial trouble, I might add)

Don't listen to the hippies. Fry his ass, OP. It doesn't matter if it's disproportionate. You can bet you're not the only victim here and the more he's able to get away with this shit the more victims there will be.
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>>3039585
Oh, i forgot to consider this actually, if the guy scamming isn't even in monetary trouble and he is doing it just for the lolz then i would completely agree with OP suing the shit out of him, but again, we dont know the exact situation so all we can do is make suppositions, at this points it is just a flip of a coin for OP between suing him hard or let it go with a scratch
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>>3039585
>the more he's able to get away with this shit the more victims there will be.
This. So much this.
Also it takes credibility away from artists who actually do the fucking work they've been commissioned to do.
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>>3038207
It's very easy for you to fuck him over through PayPal, warn him first and explain your reasoning, 6 months is a long time and anyone can make the time for that if he truly was busy he wouldn't be in financial trouble.
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did you try giving him tree fiddy? but no, seriously, try and get a refund and if you can't do that go with your original idea of telling him to go fuck himself, maybe warn other people who may be thinking about comissioning him.
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>>3038539
>>3038546
Thats not how paypal works.
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Warn him that you are going to file a paypal dispute, or have your bank charge back if he doesn't come through with your commission. If he still doesn't get it done within the time frame, proceed with the charge back.

This is what happens when people take on commissions and don't follow through. You do not fuck with other people's money, and then not expect them to fuck with yours. So tired of these online commissioners taking commissions, and then just fucking disappearing, or leading you on.
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