Alternative Art/Stylization General

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>>3035307
And color done.

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>>3037089
>ywn rest on those thighs

>>3037083
Come ON Chicocalte! There were SO MANY incredible pieces of art in the last one. And you go with only one?! And its probably the least Alt Style one. It looks great but I had hoped for a pretty collage.

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>>3037092

>>3037089
Trash. The colors are dull, you clearly have no understanding of head construction, the pose is boring and stiff, and what the fuck is going on with her left hand

>>3037089
Nice rendering anon, how long did it take you to finish?

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Not sure what the appropriate thread os for this kind of stuff but here you go.

Haven't posted in a long time, been trying lots of different ways to build pictures, this is where i'm at right now.

Any critique is wellcome, please destroy my dreams

>>3037183
Interesting...

>>3037089
I like this, anon. One thing you may want to consider is doing a mesh warp or something to make the compound eyes look more spherical, coz at the moment the pattern on them flattens it out a lot.

>>3037128
This.

>>3037215
It really just feels like we didn't have this many good pictures in one thread for a long time and we wont get one in the near future. Such a waste.

>>3037233
happy eventual birthday

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>>3037233
made an edit to the hood.
>>3037236
Thanks man, appreciate it.

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any critiques for this piece I'm working on?

>>3037161
Didnd't really count, I was at it for the day but I did several breaks. Wasn't really trying to rush things too.

>>3037213
The dots texture you mean? Actually I already tried to do it.

Can the anon who made the OP image tell me which brushes he used? Any pack in particular?

>>3037128
i really like that pic, and works well as thumb as well.
to the one who drew it, is there a reference photo you can show?
i really like the dark in the background, maybe have some dark in shadows of rocks to connect foreground to background a bit more?

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A request from some guy on an anime group on Facebook. I'm still fairly new at this.

Would love some critique.

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It's so hard to come up with a decent looking outfit, ended up with a hanzo-look -alike... Does it look dumb?

>>3037310
why is there a hole in his pants?

>>3037310
>Does it look dumb?
Yes. It looks homo as fuck.

What's this supposed to be anyway?

>>3037331
This. It's sexy as fuck on a female character, but on males it's just homoerotic and really confusing.

>>3037310
oh, btw he seems to have flat foot, unless thats what youre going for i suggest you arch the inside of the foot

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>>3037334
>it appeals to straight guys
>a-ok
>it doesnt appeal to straight guys
>but but but confusing....and wrong.....

>>3037331
>>3037333
>>3037334
Well it's supposed to be homoerotic, he's just an OC donut steel to do some [spoiler]ren'py[/spoiler] testing.

>>3037340
Thanks, I'll fix it!

>>3037331
It's called assless chaps.

Russian cowboys like Hanzo wear those.

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I'm trying to design a protagonist for my game. It's a bit simple, but what do you think?

>>3037365
Do you post your work anywhere?

>>3037208
Not sure if sarcasm

>>3036180
You really should look into anatomy. Her right arm is completely fucked. It looks like her biceps sits on top as if she had turned her arm so that we should see the palm, but we see the back of her hand so there is no way the biceps can be there. You should look at yourself in the mirror in the same pose to make it easier for you. (pro tip the upper arm rotates with the lower arm, the elbow can't turn like the shoulder.)But you should still study some anatomy. Because if what I'm seeing is not supposed to be the biceps then its just as bad or even worse.

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Ended up doing another of Mosquito girl.

>>3037365
giraffe neck.

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Reposting this from the draw thread. Crits are always appreciated.

>>3037428
lol I thought the guy was an overgrown minion.

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>>3037446
what are you doing here, go

>>3037428
Oh I like this a lot, looks like an illustration in a kids book, in a good way.

>>3037346
News flash, gays are a minority.

>>3037257
Legs look a bit disproportionate from the rest of the body. Not sure if you wanted to go for the manlet hobbit look.

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Drew these for my project, this are supposed to be enemy guardians for a high fantasy stealth game, hopefully will get some design crits

>>3037415
This looks good overall, only minor shit.
pleases the dik

>>3037546
rare pepe

>>3037490
You know half of the population likes men, right?

>>3037144
Thanks for the laugh.

>>3037798
Yes, but less than 1% like gay men.

>>3037351
Well, if it is, then you're accomplishing your goal. Character design has to bear the intended audience in mind, that said, expect heteros to be put off by it.>>3037351

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This is the most perfect art style. Prove me wrong.

>>3037089
You seem to have perfected your technique, however, your values are OK but not great, colors very dull in some places and jarring in others, face very flat and honestly bad, the eyes, the nose, the mouth all of it. Also background too dark and oversaturated, it really is the nail in the coffin. Try borrowing the color scheme from a piece you like, and fix the values and the awful face. I`m very surprised by this anon, it's like the colors and the lineart are done by two different artists... Sorry if I`m being harsh but I was excited to see your finished piece since the lineart was very good.

>>3037310
Hey I know you. Please link me your blog, I enjoy your stuff.
Now about this one, and bear in my mind this is coming from a gay male, it's very strange to look at, it does nothing for me and yet I know it's supposedly erotic.. male nudes from behind should be either artsy or fully nude complimenting the masculinity, If it was his front side it would`ve been good, but such a serious face and pose from the back with those pants is kind of weird...

>>3037964
Am I looking at pins and nails playing mahjong?

>>3037089
Blog or could you walk us through the rendering process? I like what you achieved there. I can't push my values quite as hard as you do.

>>3037546
I like them, reminds me of Bravely Default

>>3037415
Horrible face, no neck, rest I like

>>3037257
looking good so far

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Progress
both his right arms are a bit too buff, will slim them out later but his fucking right shin and foot are killing me, idk how to fix them
>>3037238
Love your hatching and lines man, blog?

>>3038043
Not the artist, but whats wrong with the face?

>>3038090
What software do you use? Your linework is amazing

>>3038090
>his

>>3038108
Just look at the nose and mouth placement. Her overall head construction and facial expression is saying ''I got punched in the face 12 times, but then my I smelled my own farts and chuckled to myself'' It's like an autistic touhou drawing done somewhat realistic. This is what happens when a good artist halts his progression by churning out turds

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>>3037428
I like the scene a lot, just some suggestions
I attached a quick paintover to show:
- fire at night tends to light up the smoke, making the smoke lighter than the night sky
- cars (and other metal stuff) should be more reflective
- on that note, the light reflecting onto the fabric of the person should be softer than that of the plastic petrol can
- think about how the eye is guided around the scene;
I thought it might be cool o keep the power lines at the top-right to keep the eye in the frame, and both the brighter reflections on the street light and car help guide the eye towards the hooded figure.
I also considered making the main "store" sign neon as well so it didn't get so over shadowed by the "open" sign, but maybe that'd be changing too much..?

>>3038090
Hatching's been something i've been picking up lately. Glad you enjoy it tho.

http://ketteiii.tumblr.com/
I don't post much.

>>3038153
Much worse. You've taken all the life out of it.

> fire at night tends to light up the smoke, making the smoke lighter than the night sky
It's clearly not night time, so this doesn't apply. The OP's smoke stack looks much better. You've also fucked a major compositional element too. The shapes in the sky divided by the smoke stack are much more appealing than your soft blob of color.

>the light reflecting onto the fabric of the person should be softer than that of the plastic petrol can
It doesn't need to be.

>think about how the eye is guided around the scene;
They obviously did, and you ruined it.

>I also considered making the main "store" sign neon as well so it didn't get so over shadowed by the "open" sign
Terrible suggestion. It would be far too overpowering, and takes away from the humor the "open" sign brings the drawing.

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can any one point out was wrong with the swordsmen? It looks off but ive been staring at it for to long to see.

>>3038301
He lacks dynamic. Judging by his lower body, the camera seems to be high up, looking down. But as if his upper body is drawn from a whole different angle. The guy should lean in more and deeper. Plus the centaur guy was just...waving his arm around, ready for it to be cut off or what? I think you should have chosen a better angle for the whole picture.

>>3038301
My biggest issue with this is that you can't see a clear silhouette of what's happening. the perspective has the people overlapping themselves. I had to figure out what the major figure was and what he was doing, and then I noticed the cut arm, and only -then- did I notice the arm was actually in the process of being cut off. You can't see the action, you can barely even see the sword doing the cutting.

Drawings are most effective when you can get all vital information at a glace through composition and strong, clear silhouettes.

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>>3038322
thanks for the crits, ive been try so do more different angles recently trying to get out of my comfort zone. it keep that in mined with the next one.

>>3038318
can you red line the swordsmen, if possible?
you dont have to if you dont want to.

>>3037183
I like it

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>>3035582

back again, i shared my "cover" page. im back with two pages i worked on tonight. took me about 1.5 hours each. let me know how much they suck.

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>>3038381
and page 2, im using the Canson "comic book art book" pages so i cant really scan them. Im gonna go to kinkons(fedex) tomorrow and see if they have a big enough scanner.

>>3038381
It's got its fair share of wonkiness but I still find your art strangely charming for some reason.

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Not sure why this thread is here again but for good measure I'll ask again for critique here.

It's a contest entry and I'm kind of nervous about it.

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>>3038301
Maybe something like this?
The main thing with the guy with the sword is that he looks like he's about to swing, maybe push his pose so his sword has already swept downwards and to the side.
Also wondering, what is that in the centaur's right arm? the way he's holding it is a little odd.

I can tell the perspective is hecked up but I'm not sure how to help that

>>3038436
Thanks a ton. he was originally riding a horse so the right arm was supose to hold the reins.
Im still trying the learn perspective with multiple people and objects, i still got a long was to go.
thanks for the help anon.

>>3038301
You don't get a good feel for the action at all. It looks more like the centaur ran into the sword than the guy actually swung it at him. No idea how to fix it. Like the other guy said, the angle really doesn't do this scenario any favors. Probably best to just move on.

>>3038385
Your drawings themselves I'll leave to someone else to talk over, because frankly I'm not in a position to give good advice, but there's a glaring problem with your work you should think about.

Paneling, paneling paneling paneling. Two huge problems stand out: You haven't provided space to accommodate dialogue, or if you have you've allowed too little. The other is something I didn't catch until your second page: The first panels are varied in size and organization, which is good. Plain, a little boring, but there's variation and you're varying angles (though, there is a 180-degree rule fault in your middle two panels, look that up). The second page is 6 equally sized panels; unless you need a regular panel size for a 4-koma style presentation it is the visual equivalent of trying to eat flour for a snack.

Manga especially relies on good use of paneling and whitespace. Try to break it up in the future. Remember the goal of a page isn't to fit as much content in it as possible, but to present the story and characters in a way that is visually interesting and exciting.

>>3038381
>>3038385
How did you get this line weight, like do you have a tut or something you can point me towards?

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>>3038436
does this work?

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>>3038043
Neck was in a bad spot, it's hidden by her oval shape on the shoulders and other parts.

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>>3037428
Did another one of these.
>>3038153
Thank you for the crit and paintover!

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>>3038518
I think it was better with the centaur's arm still raised, it makes his attack seem more legit, while still creating an opening in his ribs.

This is my break down of it, but warning that this is coming from someone who usually draws anime grills (I'm feeling like the proportions are off).

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>>3037183

Another one from this series. My shot até Europa and zeus

>>3037987
> face is very bad

Calm down with the garbage taste.

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>>3038421
painted over a little

>>3037546
I love these, the shapes are great

>>3038676
Haha the ass is nice. But I downplayed it because of the person I was drawing it for. You really did improve it a lot though.

Personally I think the leg looks too small now though.

>>3038676
However I think it's a little more of the lighting on that side than the actual leg. And I love how smooth you made some of my colors (I did pretty much all of this via phone which doesn't excuse the drawing) so I used a hard shading method because it's hard to blend there in my opinion.

Any tips on giving volume/perspective on Cartoonish eyes? Not sure why, but cartoon/anime eyes are killing me on this subject. I always draw them out to look so flat.

>>3038752
I tend to draw eyes from an angle and even when the shape is more flat, I make the eyelashes and eyelid extend past the shape of the eye. plus if you make the bottom of your eye more rounded out instead of a flat line or something, it'll make it have more volume like it's being affected by something.

>>3038768
Interesting. Thanks for that insight.
I know when I look at glen keane's work, you can really see how form is created from the way he draws eyes. But when it comes to anime with styles like say 'studio colorido', then it becomes harder to determined the depth when the head turns for me.

However, I'll practice what you suggested.

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Can someone redline please? it's my first time drawing characters interacting in a scenery...

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>>3038828

>>3037428
>>3038613

Do you have an Instagram (or other blog)?

>>3038839
She clearly has some kind of congenital birth defect anon please try to be less insensitive.

>>3037546
Gallery?

>>3037428
legit question - do you take commissions?

>>3038646
I see what you mean it's easier to under stand visually thanks anon.

>>3038850
Not sure if troll but yes it's evaneley.tumblr.com
>>3038884
Sure just pm on Tumblr

>>3038902
I wanted to know also, I don't think the other guys is a troll either, btw the anon who``fixed`` your work ruined it for me completely.

>>3038301
it really doesn't have the sense of energy an image like this would need. like it lacks speed and impact.

one reason is because there are a lot of close to parallel alignments.

>>3038828
looks very unnatural. i'm not sure what they're trying to interact with here and why.

also it looks like their seats are all sloped.

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Working on some kemono weebshit OC.

>>3038956
that looks very soft and not round (?) for a construction helmet.

>>3038959
Eh, it was a last minute addition. Probably gonna take it out in the final pic.

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not totally sure what the difference is between this and the draw thread, but draw threads about to die so ill post this here

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practice

>>3038965
Sjw fucking faggot

>>3039003
whys everyone always say that? isn't this the tumblr style thread? if anything you guys project way more sjw shit than me

>>3038965
Hey Fairfield ct. Maybe you shouldn't post your full name you fucking moron

>>3039007
kys

>>3038965
the brian meme has returned

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>>3039003

>>3038956
nice stuff. Blog?

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I've been practicing some shading advice I got in the last thread and I'm really liking it, it's helped me a lot to get things done now.

Since I already did Sucy, might as well draw Akko soon.

https://leongangar.tumblr.com/post/162301544192/lottewanna-buy-me-a-coffee-please

>>3039089
Post it here, homo.

>>3037428
Kinda like Life is Strange art, like it

>>3038956
love the colors...blog? (for real)

>>3039089
Just letting you know only the first 5 tags actually matter

>>3038956
Love this style. Gonna have to find out how to draw this cute.

>>3037428
Why is Saitama burning down that building?

>>3039153
He... he had a hard life ;_;

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Would love to make it more than a "detailed sketch," but lack the materials, software, or hardware to do so.

Apologies for camera quality as well.

>>3039185
>but lack the materials

You can't afford a pen?

>>3039185
Is this an homage to merc wip?

>>3039188
Not any kind of decent one. I always try to go over the lines I want with pen (shit bic pens), and when I go to erase pencil marks and such the ink is smudged etc. etc.

>>3039198
I actually took inspiration from upotte!, the anime/manga series about guns. It can be whatever you want it to be anon.

Thanks for the feedback

>>3039185
You`d be surprised what people can do with a simple mechanical pen and no excuses attitude.
You seem like the type of person that would always be like ''oh I can't cause pencil, oh I can't cause brushes, oh I can't cause no cintiq''.

>>3039239
Can you?

>>3039241
Yes, better than what you`ve done there mate, not that it's very hard. I`m just saying, making excuses will only halt you, it's like those obese Americans on TLC saying they can't lose weight cause of imaginary health issues and addictions. I was guilty of the same thing, traded my intuos for a cintiq only to realize hurr durr better skills don't automatically come with better tools. I was stuck drawing Nala 2.0 on a 1300$ machine while other artists did amazing things on Intuos M with basic brushes.

>>3039239
I get what you're saying, and I know it sounds like an excuse, I'll even admit it is a bad excuse I sometimes use. However I also gave a specific reason as to why I don't use my shit pens. I'm sure there are people out there who can make great art with a bic, however I, at the moment, am not one of those people. And I don't want to run the risk of smudging ink all over this sketch regardless of how messy or bad it already is lol.

I'll practice with muh pens but not starting on this thing. Hopefully fix the "attitude issue" you pointed out.

>>3039251
Having a small tablet isn't the same as having no traditional material, you still have infinitely way more possibilities to draw. And I wasn't that guy.

>>3039275
Heh.

>>3039255
yes I know it makes a world of difference, I just hate seeing people think they can't make significant progress without better tools, you really only need a pencil to learn line weight, fundies, basic shading, perspective, construction etc, and I would know, most of this is projection from many many years past.

>>3039253
plenty of youtube channels are doing tuts or speed drawings, have more fun with lines, but make them much simpler, no chickenscratching, learn some anatomy, construction, study that manga you mentioned, it has almost exclusively very thin linework, don't shade almost at all till you finish those. You do have potential anon

>>3039275
Ni no Kuni der Ludwig van Beethoven desu

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>>3039133
I'm that desperate for followers.
I'm only at 7 and no one shares.

Trying to be somebody is hard.

>>3039325
Don't worry you'll grow out of it.

>>3039325
that reminds me of
>make a tumblr
>post my best work
>niche shit so I don't get a lot of followers
>barely any reblogs or likes

>make a porn tumblr
>3k followers in a matter of weeks
>1k reblogs and likes in only a few hours

I hate it and at the same time I appreciate people like my work.

>>3039343
thats why i dont post any fan art, only original works so i dont feel obligated to draw more fanart for people show follow me for it.

>>3039349
I guess that's why having different blogs is useful but I'm now juggling two blogs and one artstation, different aliases and all. I hate wanting to make such different types of work.

>>3039343
I love NSFW but I don't like drawing it (standards and shit) but I wouldn't want people to like my stuff just because tits.

>>3039330
I guess we all had our "I want to be known" stage.
Sure, most of us here draw because we just like it but the attention and appretiation is also nice.

>>3039353
>I guess we all had our "I want to be known" stage.

I didn't.

>>3039362
Watch out, we have a special snowflake here.

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>>3039325
If you're that desperate, just exclusively draw fanart for a particularly rabid fanbase.

This guy only draws Persona fanart, and while I don't think he's very good, he's racked up over 3k followers on twitter and also gets commissions/donations.

>>3039453
He's not bad actually, he's better than most artists out there.
So far I've got a couple of coffees but of course I'd like more, I need money.

I don't want to start Patreon yet because my studies don't let me have time and I don't have the compromise to draw daily yet.

I usually draw the shit I like only, making fanart of the current fanbase when I actually share the feeling too. I'm like "hey guys, I don't see this so often here, it's pretty cool too" and tumblr is like "NAH WE WANT THE LOUD HOUSE NUDES"

>>3039475
Great blog, liked and subscribed.

>>3039453
those eyes. christ

>>3039500
preeeettty lazy

>>3039483
You da mvp

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I'm pretty sure this is wrong somehow (excluding how the arm positions are flipped)

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>>3037310
Changed the outfit although I'm still not too happy with it, it's more true to reality as it's basically a fisherman's outfit (with some articles of clothing removed) but I wanted it to be more fantasy-like.

What do you guys think? Coming up with skimpy outfits is a lot harder than I thought, anyone has any tips?

>>3037340
Again thanks for pointing it out, I made sure I didn't make that mistake again.

>>3038032
Thank you so much for the critique, I tried toning down the silly look.
And here's my tumblr (NSFW)
http://ruisselait.tumblr.com/

>>3039549
how about you show the rest

>>3039553
Much much much better anon. But he still seems kind of goofy, I know you`re not going for realism ofc but try this: make his shoulders a little wider and hands a little smaller (atm he is kind of Popeye-ish), make his legs a little longer and toe less chubby, or add nails. Also raise the neck just a lil bit.

About the pose tho, let him either hold something or turn both hands into a fist, and his face also, if you want him to look embarrassed and manly/stirn at the same time, make those brows just a little bit angrier and try opening his mouth a little bit, you know like he's surprised or about to say ''back off''.

I know this is sounding like a personal fanfic but i`m just trying to give the image some mood. See Mentaiko Priapus for some reference maybe, although no need to copy his style, I like yours, it's unique to me. Thanks for the blog

>>3039553
Also anon, what software do you use, your lines are smooth and clean as butter.

>>3039547
You broke her right arm and neck, and her boobs are not that flat

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I know you guys will trash me behind anonymity and that's exactly what I need. I think discords have been too soft on me, so if you could tell me what is my biggest flaw so I can start working on that I'd really appreciate it. I know it has flaws everywhere, but I think either facial expression or hands are my weak point, so if you could help me decide which one should I work on first, that'd be awesome.

>>3039575
Thanks! I do see now that I made his hands a tad big... I tried to go for that SFV look but I might have overdone it.

I'm not too worried about the pose as it's more like... a character reference-like pose.

>what software do you use?
I use Clip Studio Paint EX, got it on a cyber Monday sale a few years ago.

>>3039601
Head and eyes waay too big, even for that style, the rest is great!

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>>3039601
The expression doesn't match the action. The palette is also way too limited. You reused the green and orange in the hair and the shoes for the shadows. The orange could work, but the green looks really dumb.
The white strip in the shorts is also the same color as the skin, so for a moment there, I thought she was wearing a weird thong XDDD

This is all just my opinion though, so I could be wrong. =^.^=
I hope this helps!! <3

I never feel like drawing anything :(

>>3039682
What do we do anon?

>>3039682
When I feel that way I like to take one of my old drawings and redraw them as best as I can while relaxing to some good music. See how I improved even a little always gives me hope and makes me keep going. Also, try to draw often and post often on your blog/tmblr/DA, finished, wip, sketches, anything. Grabbing more subs, likes, positive comments will be like food for the hungry soul.

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Any horrible deformities?

>>3039601
Aside from what the others said, your side eyes look like they're from the 90's. Look at how some of the modern anime artists do eyes from the side.

>>3039704
But what if anon wanted it that way?

>>3039647
Thank you!

>>3039672
Yeah, I limited my colors to 5 and reused them just to play around with them and have fun :> I like how you added ears to her out of nowhere haha and I appreciate the critique about the expression. I didn't know what to do with her face to be honest. Drawing cute girls sure is hard.

I guess that I should work on facial expressions first?

>>3038978
can you share more torsos?

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>>3039704
I definitely don't want them to look like 90s anime, but I wouldn't like to make them huge and large like modern anime either. I'm aiming for something like the art from Kizu, where the iris is still a perfect circle. Could you recommend me some artists that do this?

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>>3039714
something like this?

>>3039738
Kinda, thanks!

>>3039714
90s anime is best anime though

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is the text being on the bottom fine or should i use
text bubbles?

>>3039853
Definitely text bubbles. Text on bottom only works if there is one speaker

>>3039862
Thanks anon, ill get right on it.

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stickart commission again

anyone got any tips for painting special effects? maybe some helpful tutorials?

>>3039853
Fuck text bubbles, I like this.

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>>3039862
>>3039871
who about this?

>>3039874
Nah, this is weird, just go with text bubbles.

>>3039878
k thanks ill try it out.

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>>3039878
how about now?

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>>3039865
This might be helpful >>3028270

Personally I like how pic related artist paints it.

Nice work btw.

>>3037428
Hey man, I work at my dad's publishing house and after showing him your work we decided we want to hire you for the illustrations, got a blog?

>>3040119
Why is everything made out of rubber to you??

>>3039853
based ONE

>>3037923
Nice statistics you got there, this is why this thread is looked down upon, badly drawn weaboo lolis with breasts of a 25 year old gold digging Valley girl, try drawing something other than that in your life, a guy, a tree, a sanic even. ANYTHING.

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Finished my construction doggo. Finally I made something slightly resembles kemono, still a long way to go.

>>3040217
I like it a lot anon, but again, blog?

>>3040217
HOLY SHIT BLOGG???

>>3040223
>>3040226
http://echoseed.tumblr.com/

>>3040228
But it's 99% furry, good fucking job wasting your massive potential you degenerate

>>3040248
What did you expect anon?

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How is composition wise. I'm very new to this idea of purposeful placement since a lot of my drawings just float in mid air haha

>>3040254
Good artists usually cater to the 1% of degenerate teens for money, commission and patreon, and even on their blogs SOMETIMES, they don't base their entire online persona on it. Even sakimi fucking chan is above this. Jesus Christ

>>3040270
is good, very engaging image

>>3040248
I keep different arts under different names.

>>3040217
Cute!

>>3040270
BLOGGG?????

>>3040284
care to link one of those?

>>3040300
shut up

>>3040309
I'd rather not connect the dots.

>legit want to follow a person and ask for blog
> HURR DURR DUMB MAY MAY TROLL POSTER
I fucking hate this place

>>3040342
It's your fault for not declaring that you're not "That guy" but you have to swear it.

>>3040342
Is your life really going to improve THAT MUCH by having one more artist's pictures to glance at for three seconds per week?

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did an oil painting from a photo i took

>>3040349
Probably not, but I do like to be inspired. I read books, watch movies, listen to music for the same reason.

I can't say I am in any way shape or form an amazing artist, but I can say that I've drawn inspiration, became motivated to try out certain mediums or techniques from other artists.

Hell, when I was a kid one of the reasons I realized perspective can have an impact on a piece was when I was reading a spider-man comic.

>>3040361
*during the start of mcfarlane's run and he used some crazy angles while swinging through NYC

>>3037257
the right side of his skirt thing could be designed better, just looks like theres a knot. you did a much better job with his cloak wrapping around and falling of the form

>>3037257
also maybe give him a sheathe

>>3039553
if that junksack is what he wears erreday, then he shouldnt have those tanlines imo. rn it looks like he actually forgot his pants. other than that looks good

>>3039853
maybe get rid of the line between the image and the text of the image, for clarity of what belongs where

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>>3040393
>tfw when the Firez meme shows up again

>>3040398
sounds interesting, so ill looks like subtitles?

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>>3039198
>>3039185
fixed

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>>3040398
some thing like this?

>>3040424
didn't want to fix the hands of the original or the other shit that was bad did this for the shits and giggles

>>3040424
face looks great, head needs to be shrunk by at least 20%

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>>3040425
Learn how to draw hands, my man.
>>3040424
This is surprisingly good rendering for a merc.WIP meme post. How the fuck did you manage to make that skin look so good and still make it look like it was shot in the same light as the original sketch? Good shit anon, most quality Kek I've had all day.

>>3040424
Holy shit this man has a family, CHILL.

LOL

>>3040424
I don't know how to feel.
on one hand
>decent quality paint over
>part of the meme guys

but on the other end
>my shit just got roasted in the worst way

you messed up the colors on the strap that connects the sidearm holster to the belt, probably confused it with seams on the pants, not that it matters.

tl;dr
>fug

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>>3040474
I know this is a pointless spammy samefag over the same drawing, but

took that one anons advice in trying to ink the drawing with whatever pen I could find to make it look more finished.

heres the new meme bois

>>3040488
Learn how to hatch properly.
Don't mix flat hatching, crosshatching and hatching following the form in one image.
But nice try anyways, you should also color it just for practice.

>>3040507
yeah I sort of just did a blind jump into the hatching thing. Will actually properly go over that now.

Also I would color it but I have nothing to color with.

>>3040511
you can pick up watercolours pretty cheap

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>>3040474
Lol. this thread suddenly turned to gold.
GG m8, you tried. The power of kek was too strong in this one
>>3040424

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A little bit rushed.

>>3040521
Cmon. Fix those hands.

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sketch drop

>>3040580
cute

>>3040580
Robot anon remembers you from several months back. You were the guy with the stretched out eyes problem> Glad to know you didn't give up drawing

>>3040598
Read "Glad to know you didn't fix up" at first.

>>3040603
Lol that's amusingly negative

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Am I good enough to rake in that furry commish money yet?

>>3040702
I wouldn't even pay a dollar for that. Keep practicing

>>3040702
I can see people paying half a dollar for that on DA

>>3037257
I think this is pretty awesome, only critique is the shape of the boots look pretty lazy compared to the rest of the detail in the piece.

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>>3040702

>>3037365
his neck is a tiny bit long, but this is actually great otherwise

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Please don't grill me for it being to reddit-y. I already fucking know that I'm drawing a dead meme

>>3039891
not that guy, but i like it. nice work.

>>3039865
How do you choose colors?

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>>3039601
What software do you use?

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Fleshing out a design for a fighting game character, for a manga about fighting games.

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>>3040702
huehuehue

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>>3040772
Also, you guys didn't see these, but two more to complement that catgirl I posted last thread.

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>>3040775

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>>3040777
And for what it's worth I guess, here's some very loose sketches of the real world characters. Just getting a feel for the whole thing with the real world stuff still.

>>3040521
Everything ever is rubber, what is life holy shit what are materials

>>3040783
are these your sketches? if they are blogg??

>>3040791
manlyspirit.tumblr.com
and Manlyspirit on Insta

>>3040773
Oh no you found my reference. Seems I have to keep practicing. T_T

>>3040793
cool stuff! I really love how you drew the two girls in the sketch. Your characters also seem like they all have a unique personality and a certain story attached to them. Really love it!

>>3040793
Please tell me that you created that tumblr while you were in middle school, cause that username....

>>3040770
Eyes are awful, they`re like headlights, they`re ruining an otherwise great illustration

>>3040810
Thanks. It's still all generally very rough, as I'm still partially searching for the right feel and style of the real world stuff. I want it to feel more urban and detailed/grounded, to contrast the heavy anime look of the game. I want both to be somewhat distinct, as there will be a lot of back and forth during scenes.

The manga is still a solid year from formal launch though. Still got a lot to flesh out, as well as improve my art, it's not quite where I want it to be just yet, but I'm getting there. I also gotta build an entire fighting game for this manga from scratch essentially. Which includes the mechanics of the game, and the entire moveset for each character, as well as drawing out each individual move, and etc... for a good... 34 characters and counting. So it's a lot, haha, but it'll be worth, if I get this right, it'll be a massive hit. Combining urban slice of life stuff, with the hotblooded competition of shounen sports manga like Slam Dunk and Ippo, with badass action sequences from the game, as well as detailed Akagi-like intrigue into the mechanics of the game, and the Meta of fighting games, as well as the level of detail we're putting into the game itself (rather than just doing some throwaway fantasy game like a lot of current vidya anime are doing), I'm very excited to get this project off the ground. With how hot eSports are these days, I know a lot of people will connect with a manga like this.

>>3040819
I was.... 17 when I made that username, and was really into Gurren Lagann and stuff. Now I'm just stuck with it, but I embrace the absurdity of it.

>>3040773
I once knew a girl in my night school class for chemistry, and she kinda looked like this except with blonde hair.. I was thinking of getting to know her, but I waited too long and she dropped out of that night school course before I could tell her how I felt. Made me learn that you gotta just claim dat pussy before it's too late. Damn. If I had just been more confident, I could have been fucking her instead of fapping to this picture. Fml.

>>3040843
Whatever, plenty of girls out there man. Nothing worth beating yourself up over. It's never worth it to put pussy on the pedestal like that.

>>3040702
Different Strokes for Different Folks

>>3040783
The noses are the weakest part.

>>3040767
Depends on the piece. If it's limited palette then i'll just have an imaginary gamut mask in my head and choose from it. If I'm just winging it, I'll lay down a base background color and mix the local color directly on the canvas so that everything has some "color harmony". Then I'll think about the color of the light-- if it's a warm light it'll hue shift colors in light towards orange/yellow and colors in dark towards cool colors, vice versa for cool light. Things change though as pieces progress, sometimes I'll apply a gradient map or hue/saturation correction layer if I'm not liking how something is going. I like saturated colors a lot though so if you're into a more realistic rendering style then you'll wanna navigate and play with grays since that's where you'll get a lot of nice subtlety.

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how confusing is this? uugh

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>>3040934
Very, I don't really know how to approach fixing the issues without changing it radically, perhaps lineweight and some more drastic changes to whats in shadow/light will make it read better but as it stands theres a lot of tangents and hard to read areas due to the overall poor silhouettes.

Is the foreground creatures left arm broken? Does it have a horn? Why is it right arm so tiny, lots of little things.

>>3037257
A few things for accuracy:

I've never seen a pteruges (the skirt) made out of metal: I'd suggest you make it out of leather, with studs.

Gladius' have more angular tips: they're thrusting swords. The blade is not so rounded. The hilt is also disproportionate: it's larger on the real thing.

Lorica segmentata (the scale armor) actually bulges a little bit OUT of the body at some angles, not IN. You would never, ever see a lorica segmentata like that, because the scales are vertical from the front.

What kind of boots are THOSE? Leg wraps were a thing, but I'm not sure the Romans ever used more modern styled closed boots.

Go to 7:30 or so for boots. Hell, watch the whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Heu_pPCYNfw

Here's also a video on late Roman armor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOXjgoylNTU

>>3040973
Watching the video on lorica segmentata I linked, I'm gonna have to clarify one thing:

The scales are vertical, but the shape slopes inwards. It's not smooth, like plate armor: it has scales.

Don't make it a cylinder though: the scales get smaller as they go down. However they are vertical.

>>3040950
Nobody is buying those hands mate

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>>3040965
ikr .... didn't want to realize I have to modify so much, but I'll try to change the monster from below, and the gore part of the man's back to make it more understandable

his arm it's not broken, it's my fault for the bad perspective xD, he's supposed to be cutting the man's back like really fast and furious , but well that was not understood either x'''DD
and it's a horn made of glass, actually it has a lots of details of glass and for sure it will make the image even more incomprehensible so i'll try to change it drastically ;w;
thank you anon !

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>>3039601
I actually like your illustration a lot, so I gave it a go too.
I agree with most of what >>3040770 said, but mostly think this guy >>3039672 is rubbish.
There's nothing wrong with a limited palette and they more or less fucked the eyes up.

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anime style gestures

>>3041017
>anime style gestures

kys

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First thing I've drawn digitally sense my computer got fixed. I wanna learn more about picture composition so lemme know what you think.

>>3040784
>Everything ever is rubber, what is life holy shit what are materials
That sound exactly like Murata.

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How would you guys draw this nose? Going for a [spoiler]self[/spoiler] portrait and my weird mulatto nose is hard to draw.

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>>3041063
Forgot to say, I'm going for something kinda Cowboy Bebop-ish (pic related), but other interpretations would also help.

>>3041063
Left. The angle in your picture is slightly from below, while your Cowboy Bebop ref has a face tilted down, so your interpretation on the right doesn't match your photo reference.

>>3041063
cute nose fag.

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Going from realism to stylization is hard.
>>3041072
Thanks, that actually helped a lot. I took some more reference pics too.
>>3041073
I find your tastes strange, but who am I to judge?

>>3039253
>And I don't want to run the risk of smudging ink all over this sketch regardless of how messy or bad it already is lol.
>I'll practice with muh pens but not starting on this thing.

Why not start on this thing? A few weeks/months down the track you're gonna be making better work and this sketch will most likely be thrown out or shelved away to be forgotten anyways. You shouldn't care if you fuck it up, just make better/more work

>>3041092
dear god frida, im not sure if i wish you to be a male or female!

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>>3041098
It's not my fault the black parent gave me the DSL gene, I swear!

>>3041125
lmk when those daughters are born

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Bet you guys won't find the ref I used, teheeee

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Another standu

>>3041196
Truly an enigma.

>>3040783
You really need to do something about those horrible mouths. Every single character you draw have those stupid fucking duck lips.
The Michael Jackson noses also don't help.

>>3041237
Lips look fine to me anon, you need to get your eyes checked

>>3041274
You never were good at taking criticism, cunt.

>>3041280
Fuck off bitch, I don't need your critique. You're just jealous of my skills

>>3041282
ngmi

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>>3041280
>>3041283
Not that guy. See, this is why I use a trip.

As for the mouths and noses, we'll see. I take all critique I get here with a grain of salt. Like, I do think about it and keep it in the back of my mind, but I don't stress over it, nor do I try to contest it. Oftentimes, stuff like that can come down to stylistic preference. Anime fans in particular are used to dots for noses, or corners for noses. But perhaps there is some merit on what's being said. Sometimes people pointing something out can help me see something I might have not been aware of down the line, but it's until it's clear to me that I decide to do something. That's why I don't contest it.

But yeah, not me. Sorry.

>>3040783
nose's whole purpose is to JUT THE FUCK OUT of the face, don't be shy with that. Even cute animu noses still stand very sharp from the face plane (in 3/4 or profile view, dot noses need not apply).

>>3041287
This is exactly what I'm talking about. This misguided arrogance and inability to accept criticism. It has nothing to do with dot noses or what you think anime fans like. It has to do with your noses looking like shit, and your characters' mouths sticking out like crazy.

Something I've also noticed is that absolutely everything you draw feels extremely derivative. You seem to copy most of your designs, poses and expressions, and I'm guessing I've seen at least half of the things you draw somewhere else.
Of course, it's difficult to prove this because I don't watch anime, nor do I play anime themes games, but I have managed to track down at least four pictures where you've outright plagiarized someone else's work. I'm collecting them and will post a collage when I feel I have enough.

How much you copy is also evident by the massive difference in quality in your art. When you don't use reference, it looks like it's drawn by a complete amateur.

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>>3041310
>I'm collecting them and will post a collage when I feel I have enough.
I've noticed some of the stuff you noticed, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. Looking forward to your collage

>>3041310
Are you sure those copies aren't just studies?

>>3041287
So you can't take constructive criticism, got it.

>>3041318
>>3041310
samefag

>>3041322
Is that how you handle the fact that people have criticisms about your art? Convince yourself that they're all just one person?

>>3041317
Yes. It's mostly finished drawings and designs that he passes off as his own.
I'd say almost everything this guy draws is copied. He doesn't trace or do 1:1 copies, but they're so close to the original that it's essentially plagiarism. He's also good at changing certain parts to hide the fact that he's copying.

>>3041020
Jealous

>>3041310
>will post a collage when I feel I have enough.
lmao reminds me of that "i like that jump" moment

>chibi's smile and optimism gone

>>3041329
referencing isn't a crime bro

>>3041310
You know these are just concept sketches right. Obviously a lot are copied. They're not meant to be published work, they're just studies. I never said they weren't. The amount of dedication you're putting forth to discredit me is admirable though, sad part is, if you put just as much effort into drawing as you did into shitposting, you wouldn't feel compelled to waste your time on something like this. I look forward to seeing your collage either way though.

>look at this amateur artist, he's totally an amateur
Yeah, I'd be the very first to agree with you on that. I do what I can with what I got. Still got ways to go. There are people on here who are far more skilled than me, you're much better off trying to learn from them than trying to discredit me. Like, pointing out that I'm an amateur is like saying water is wet. You should look at at my urban sketches, they fucking suck. But at least people like my work enough to commission me for stuff. Growth to me, as an artist, is more for personal improvement than financial gain.

Like, I'm well aware of my weaknesses, and I spend time doing studies and trying to improve. In time, with enough practice, my stuff will be better. But you're not wrong when you say a lot of my stuff is heavily reliant on reference, cause it is.

But I'm not gonna sit here and stress out over every little critique given to me in these threads, as oftentimes it's just people like you who don't really wanna help others, you just wanna feel superior.

If I'm not mistaken, I take it you're the guy in the last thread who tried to prove I copied turtlefishpaint with my catgirl, and got thoroughly btfo by everyone else. You're right, I did use ref, but it wasn't turtlefish.

Idk man though, just as a thought, wouldn't it be more effective to direct people down the right path on what you feel they should focus on to improve, rather than make a collage of sorts like this?

>>3041289
Thanks for that. Duly noted.

>>3041353
> I never said they weren't.
You never said they were, you fucking idiot. That's the whole point.

The only reason you're coming out now and pretending you were being honest all along is because you got caught.

>I'm well aware of my weaknesses
No, you're not. You copy shit and then scream like a little baby when people try to help you or criticize your work. This has been a consistent pattern since you started posting here. It's also obvious from your attitude that you have an extremely high opinion of your own skill level, even if you're pretending to be humble now.

>and got thoroughly btfo by everyone else
Living in your own little fantasy world, I see.

>wouldn't it be more effective to direct people down the right path on what you feel they should focus on to improve
This is the most effective path. Stop being a plagiarizing little bitch. Sooner or later, someone going to call you out on it.

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posting in the hopes it gets lost forever

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>>3041359
I'm pretty sure I said here >>3040783 that these were loose sketches to get a feel for the world. Among them, a couple are copied, like the goggles person on the top left. Directly copied from the work of another artist, forget who. The Asian dude with the cap is based off Keith Ape. The black dude with the corn rows is purely from imagination, as is the guy from the backwards cap. The girl with the short hair used Anzu as reference. The glasses girl, I used some busty asian model, but changed a lot of things. The girl with the hoodie uses a girl I used to date as a base, while taking a lot of inspiration from Kr0n's style. The guy with the short hair I used a friend of mine as inspiration for the look, while looking at Samurai Champloo and Afro Samurai for style design. NONE of these are final designs. They're all roughs while I fish around for the style of the real world stuff.

Ask me for my influences, and I'll gladly tell you where they're from.

And I don't even know where you're getting off from with any of this, as none of these sketches are published in any of my blogs, PRECISELY because many are copied from other stuff. These are purely style studies. Figured since this was the STYLIZATION thread, I'd get some feedback on the design of things. What people liked, what people don't like.
>No, you're not. You copy shit and then scream like a little baby when people try to help you or criticize your work.

When did I do this?

I mostly just avoid responding to all feedback on here. I learned ages ago to avoid arguing with "critique" in these threads, as half the time it's just trolls such as yourself looking to shit on other people, and it becomes impossible to distinguish real critique from just some aashole troll. Pic very fucking related. As I said, I take note of all the feedback, and think on it as I continue to work.

I honestly don't even know why you're butthurt, as I only stepped in to point out the dude you were arguing with wasn't me.

You know you're doing well when other people are desperate to undermine you.

>>3041382
You can't be famous/a hero/leader without enemies.

>>3041377
>The black dude with the corn rows is purely from imagination, as is the guy from the backwards cap.
This is exactly what I was talking about earlier in this thread. The final results when you're drawing from imagination and when copying are massively different, which makes it easy to pick out what you're copied and what's original. Most of your final designs are very obviously copied.

>as half the time it's just trolls such as yourself looking to shit on other people
Shit on other people? You just proved that I was right about everything I said.
Also, I'm not referring to people shitposting. I'm referring to the countless people who provide you with genuine critique, which you always refuse to listen to. I can pull up plenty of threads if that's you want.

>as none of these sketches are published in any of my blogs,
What about your recent Cloud picture, which was more or less a copy of two different pictures? What about your Zelda picture with the bow, where you copied the perspective and pose from an artbook by Ishiwatari? What about the pose in your recent Link drawing?

It's one thing to use photo reference, but if you're simply copying other people's art, there's an unwritten rule among artists that you're supposed to be very clear about what you're doing.

>>3041382
>>3041385
Nice try, dumbass.

I would like to see anons art for what it's worth. If I see even one pose I've seen before I'll begin making a collage post haste.

>>3041396

Mate you have a problem hahahaha

>>3041394
jeez you seem to have a lot of time on your hands to discredit that guy. Get a life dude haha.

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>>3041394
Zelda pose is like a year old, yeah, that was using Ishiwatari as ref, and it was intentional as I was trying to learn from his style.

Cloud and Link are both purely from imagination though, so nice try, lol. The only ref there was Seung Eun Kim's work as I was trying to learn from his way of penciling things. Still haven't nailed it, so I'll be doing more. But they were great practice, as both helped me think in black and white a lot more. I used to have a big aversion to filling in blacks, but since doing these I kinda got out of that a lot more.

Legit good practice, it helped me out a bunch. So I'll defo be doing more in that style.

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>>3041396

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>>3040950
Figured I could add a scenery to this one. Still rough for now.

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>>3041399
>>3041402
>>3041403
This is just getting sad.

>>3041404
>Cloud and Link are both purely from imagination though.
Totally, dude. It's just a coincidence, right?

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>>3041415
Now overlay and compare how much overlap there is. Just like Nin-Nin and turtlefishpaint, you're about to get btfo, yet again.

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>>3041415
Agreed, you are making a fool of yourself. But you just keep talking. It really is sad. But go on, entertain us.

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>>3041419
I never said you traced, you idiot. It's not my fault you're bad at copying.
It's the same character, in the same pose, in the same outfit at a slightly different angle.

But if you don't consider these copies, then I suppose the others ones were even more blatantly copied, which makes it all even worse.

>>3041428
>It's the same character
> in the same outfit
HAHA dude you are a riot.

>>3041428
I'll humor you. Next time I do one of those, I'll livestream and record it. Done deal. That should put an end to that. I'll intentionally go out of my way not to use any ref for the pose.

That should put an end to that.

>>3041429
hahaha
im not samefagging
hahaha

>>3041431
Look at what you did! Now the monkey is mad, who will we laugh at now ?

>>3041432
hahaha im not samefagging even if i repeatedly use hahaha, its just that common hahaha

>>3041419
>>3041425
It's kinda sad when you resort to phone posting in order to pretend to be more than one person.

>>3041428

So he didn't trace and drew a well established character from a different angle with no overlap in a similar (not same) pose........

What's the problem?

Hatters gonna hate.

>>3041441
You know perfectly well what you did. No one's going to look at those two pictures and think it's a coincidence.

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>>3041428
to be fair to the shitposter those do look similar

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>>3041448
In case there's any confusing, this is the picture he drew. The ones posted above are the ones he copied.

>>3041440
>>3041443
You are projecting dude. Just because you would use multiple devices just to spam the thread doesn't mean he does. You are just such a goof mate that we all want to get in on the fun. You are just seriously sad boy.
Devote more time to your own studies instead of trying everything to make someone else look bad. Its pathetic.

>>3041457
Again, you're not fooling anyone. You got exposed so hard that you willingly confessed, without anyone even having to post proof.
Using Malaysia's samefagging tactics to try to change the consensus isn't going to change anything.

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>>3041460
Pathetic dude. You are arguing with a complete stranger. You seriously think you seriously exposed that dude. Haha. But whatever you believe my point still stands. You got nothing to do and you are sad.