/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

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>>3035120
I'm still having trouble distinguishing what is and isn't/what should or shouldn't be 1 or 2 point perspective.

Does this work as 1 point?

what percentage of beginners "graduate" from the beginner threads?

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Where do I get Paint Tool Sai?

When I downloaded Gimp I did it from a stupid place that wasn't the official website so I want to know for certain where the real place is this time

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posting picture of Mike tyson i done.

>>3035145
Is SAI more popular than clip studio in japan

>>3035145
https://vilebile.deviantart.com/journal/Have-My-Paint-Tool-Sai-545675976

I got mine from here. It's an older version though. What I'd like to know is where I can pirate a copy of Clip Studio.

>>3035139
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hey /beg/, I did this sargent study about a month ago ish and I was wondering if anyone has any tips? Besides mileage, I've done other studies in the past month but this is the one that I struggled with the most imo.

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>>3035178
me 2

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>>3035187

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>>3035182
imo, shading on the left eye is making it pop out too much. also, clean up your lines for the curve of her face.
i did a study of sargent before and noticed his skin tones are rly milky, so i kept that in mind while i was doing my study.

pic related, my said study of sargent. tips are welcome

how do i git gud at colouring st0ff?

>>3035154
check rutracker.
or torrentz2, /t/

>>3035187
AWAY AWAY

>>3034404
>>3034465
>>3034464
bls respond

>>3035137
Yes. Only one vanishing point.

>>3034404
>>3034464
>>3035305
I do agree with the critique the guy posted, but if it's a (literally) meme picture judging by the pepe i'd really like to see it finished.

It's probably going to go viral if you force it, and that'd be a great incentive for you to continue

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I gave up on finishing it, the colors are fucked

>>3035312
it is an elaborate meme picture

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Send help

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>>3035122
first attempt at drawing after a year

what do to improve?

>>3035356
Draw more

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Why are landscape drawings and ballpoint pens so diametrically opposed to each other?
How can I learn to draw something soft with just lines?

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>>3035145
Check the previous thread for the crack to make Sai 2 beta work. (It's taken from CG persia)

And for the CSP I'm using CLIP_STUDIO_PAINT_EX_V1.6.2-XFORCE

>>3035365
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>>3035267

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>>3032576
I won't finish it, but any way to improve this?

>>3035305


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BGzfVmfksg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDAh_NKNtvY

Study the process/workflow. Do thumbnails painting and plan with basic shapes. Setup lighting etc...

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I tried but I still failed. I just can't seem to draw symmetrical.

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(sorry if the lines are feint) When constructing a 3 point drawing from imagination, where relative to the first 2 points should the 3rd point go. The block I made looks crooked.

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>>3035204
That makes sense, I'm still just getting started with learning painting and colors so I never even thought about how the original painter would mix their colors. Thank you!

I'm no expert so definitely take this with a grain of salt but on your study it just seems like mostly the colors themselves are what's off. Sargent's colors are much less saturated than what you put down although this could've been done on purpose. I tried to do a paintover/comparison in pic related, I don't know how to do a "proper" paintover so I hope it's useful at all.

The shapes are solid except for around his right shoulder, in the original painting they seem to slope more, but it seems like this was mostly just a study of the face itself. There's also a couple issues with value, especially in the eyes but I feel like that has to do with the colors you picked more than anything.

I hope this is helpful anon.

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A draw a day

>>3035384
Keep working on your mouth and eyes, add more shading to the overall face, the shading in the neck looks a lot better. That drawing is not done yet, there are some proportions/symmetry issues, but since it's almost done you might as well finish it to practice your rendering.

Why are like 90%+ of the ref pics men, and generally naked? Is OP gay?

Do you erase all your pencil outlines before coloring leaving a small trace of the original outline so you dont mess up or color ON the outline without erasing it (soft outline of course)
I have been watching videos and no one outlines with pencil, they use their colored pencils as outline but i dont feel confident enough that i wont fk it up using colored pencils

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I have a problem that is hard to put in words: I can easily sketch a ball and the crosshair in different angles, but i have difficulty visualizing how the features of the face should fit properly with the angle i put in the ball+plane.

>>3035403
You're definitely more along the right track than the other poster. His work is all over the place with color, and isn't very well done - typical for someone learning portrait painting outside of formal training.
There's a wealth of information out there from actual painters. Here's a couple, that might give you some more help in how to approach this.
Cesar Santos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce7leNdACKk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFWQlDAWVrc

Andrew Tischler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuGWvmvK-3w&t=612s

Daria Callie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K33Lt6SaBmM

Watch these videos, and see how painters approach the work - this is how you should be doing it too, but with digital tools. The concepts and colors are the same.

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>>3035492
I also have difficulty when drawing a second eye

>>3035204
This is all over the place. There is no cohesiveness to it, you're putting what you think is there, and not what is really there, and why. There are too many different base colors in the face, there should be 3 - highlight, midtone, shadow - and then small variations of that. You're not sculpting the shapes with color or value, you're trying to do a paint by numbers with no idea of why each area is the color it is, no sense of depth, no lighting. And, the background color should be related somehow to the main figure, as a complimentary color, echoed in the skin tones as ambient light. Look at the original - there is a commonality of hue across the face, not patchwork of different hues like you have. Sargent was using brush strokes along with color to build form, which is completely absent in yours. Your colors are too vibrant, or simply the wrong hue, like the background, which is a sap green, which compliments the reds of the face. (I suspect your monitor is at fault here.)

His skin tones aren't milky, they're accurate. That's what you've missed completely in this study.

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somebody redline me this shit, wanna draw a boner attracting torso.

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>>3035508

>>3035501
That's because you're drawing both eyes on the same plane, looking straight at the viewer, when the plane should be an angle. You're cartooning, not rendering. You need - dare I say it - work in building the form, like in the Loomis books.

>>3035541
oh shit i get it now

>>3035356
you have potential, just keep drawing and learn the fundies

>>3035508
Where did you learn to draw midriffs?

>>3035540
what the hell

>>3035547
whats a midriff my friend? (i dont have native english tho...)

>>3035548
Stomach/abs

>>3035551
>>3035549

I can now draw good circles

I AM GOING TO MAKE IT

>>3035557
but can you draw good squares?

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The human body is so hard compared to still objects, the body itself isn't bad, even fingers or hands or feet, but faces? I struggle with them. This must be a case of what they call symbol drawing as well as a fundamental misunderstanding of the human face and how it looks.

I didn't attempt for this to be cartoonish or animelike at first, I wanted this to be realistic, but as I continued I slowly realized I have no idea what a face looks like, what details that make a face a face besides vague shape. Loomis said that a skull can be approximated with a sphere and a flat plane, and the book states that I should practice from different angles, that's fine, but given my problem is so severe that my faces look like this, should I do reference drawings or follow loomis at first? Or something else?

>>3035588
do you have prosopagnosia?

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>>3035122
Helpful anon said to try and break it down in simpler forms in the last thread.
I know my hands and feet need more practice.
This was 1hr 15.

Input is appreciated!

>>3035588
use a pencil and paper

read sticky, and then keys to drawing

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should i fucking give up? i can't improve at drawing. i even had to use an overlay to fix a couple obvious errors on the figure at the far left to make it look as good as it does.

>>3035602
Just apply yourself bro

>>3035590
Who knows, maybe?

>>3035597
I'd rather not because I draw far worse with pen and pencil and I get cramps in my arms, wrists and hands due to some mental bullshit problems where I squeeze the pencil too hard without noticing, it has inhibited my ability to even write since I was a kid.

And I have read the sticky, although not keys to drawing, which I will be getting now and reading, thank you for the suggestion. I understand my problem, and that is symbol drawing, however different sources on /ic/ recommend different ways to get past this, I was asking which source I should listen to, and thank you for answering.

>>3035608
as long as you understand that you're going to improve at a stupidly slower pace on a tablet, godspeed. i don't think i could take that personally lmao

>>3035606
ugh fine in my defense i dont draw a lot and i dont really take the time to measure as thoroughly as i should

>see something obviously wrong with someone's drawing
>end up not giving critique because I don't feel qualified enough to

>>3035618
Do it anyway we're anonymous and if you're wrong you'll just be called out and have to leave the thread out of self embarrassment until the next one.

No worries.

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its so hard

>>3035611
But why is that the case? I've heard that before and even heard that a pure digital artist can never be good, but why?

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>>3035128
I'm a lazy fuck
https://webmshare.com/Ad5nA

>>3035120
Fuck my life I made the front cover. Time to an hero I guess.

when the shit did all these webms start showing up

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Friend asked me to draw him a my little pony in ms paint since I owed him a favor. Don't really have much experience drawing pony and my anatomy in general is pretty weak. My question is how I should make the thigh highlighted in red look in relation to the other. Would it be more compressed and "fatter" or should it be extended out more? Bonus: any tips on how to draw pelvic region would be greatly appreciated as well.

>>3035668
They're easy to make now as a screen shot, but give more info to better help.

>>3035672
If I did it it'd be a 3 hour webm. I need better hand eye coordination or need to practice drawing blind.

>>3035678
Just speed it up/timelapse.

>>3035671
Just trace someone elses picture familia

>>3035681

...b-but that's cheating!

>>3035682
Its not likes hes going to find out

>>3035678
It takes less time as you practice

>>3035678
My webms are sped up by 800%

>>3035671
you should give up or switch from ponies.

>>3035378
cheers

>>3035378
Holy shit these are nice.

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how my proportions

Want to really dig into head/face construction, any other good material than loomis? Proko?

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I figured I'd be smart and come when I can still change the fundamentals rather than a finished product.

Looking at the picture, I've already noticed that the right hand is a bit small and the left arm is a bit thin.

>>3035834
Jeff Watts

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I am just starting to try to draw humanoid figures outside of the 3/4 busts. I know things are wrong but I can't see how to un-wrong them. Any advice or red lines anyone can lay down?

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I just drew all from imagination for fun and laughed at how chunni it came out when I zoomed out.

When does "referencing" become "copying"?

>>3035148
pretty bad symbol drawing
I suggest you read the sticky, so you dont waste time waiting for replies and can get straight to working

>>3035178
pretty good for stylized art.
not much to critique, you should experiment with drawing hands resting

>>3035814
Head is too big in relation to ribcage and there is too much space between ribcage and hips.
>>3035842
You don't feel the form.
There is no use in redlining it since you're failing at most fundamental level.
For now just do exercises from drawabox and try to apply them to your drawings

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>>3035188
Your perspective is off, study planes of the face

+ we can see above the eye
- we can see the nostrils?
+ we can see the top of the head
- we can see under the lip?

also that right eye is too wide

>>3035887
pretty decent because you know how parts of the body are suppose to look.
work on learning how to place things better, alot of parts are dislocated.

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I know copying anime pictures doesn't help me as an artist, but it's still fun.

>>3035930
i like to copy a picture i like as a warm up before drawing other things, it really gets me in the mood

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>>3035842
like the other guy said, practice form.
it looks like you don't understand how things are suppose to look yet so.
you can either follow his advice or type "form pose study" in google and basically recreate something similar to the picture

>>3035930
copying or tracing?
copying a reference will help you alot
tracing wont.

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>>3035935
I copied it. I feel like tracing would only make me worse.

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>>30356
her right leg should be extended the same way her left leg is.
also draw the crotch like this except without the vag

>>3035671
>>3035941 <--- this post is for you

>>3035588
Your making those faces way too flat.
give them more depth,

show me what you're studying by loomis.

>>3035316
that head is way too big for that neck man.

>>3035120

What is the best websites for getting commissions?

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Crit me guys

>>3035950
Tumblr tumblr tumblr.

>>3035955
pretty good but the face looks kinda squished
neck is a bit too thick
also those eyes are too similar

>>3035986
Thanks man, is there any problems on the nose? I knew I should've took more time doing the eyes

>>3035990
nose looks good

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Some hand practice.

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What should I practice if I want to be able to sketch the people I see around me like this?

>>3036010
Your symbol drawing. Do a study get anatomy figures and draw them.

>>3035927
Can you redline me please it looks fine to my pleb eyes.

>>3036012
What does a hand look like when not symbol drawing?

>>3036011
honestly you should practise sketching people around you

>>3036024
Like a hand that you see with the appearance of having a third dimension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xsqbwu_nMI

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>>3035945
Drawing the Hands and Face pages 19-22 say to draw the head from a flattened ball from different angles. Doing this I realized it was too flat, even flatter at first than what you see there, until I changed the cheekbones.

>>3035365
Why are you drawing circles instead of elipses?

How do I practice tighter hatching?

>>3035922
True thank you senpai

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>>3036015
I dont have good hand writing
anyway your drawing is too stiff and there are too many mistakes. just start over
i sketched you a better pose

>>3035932
>>3035918
Ouch, but you two are right, I don't understand figures and form. Heck, for this I knew it was broken but I can't see why, just that it was "wrong". I will go ahead and take your advice and work on posing bodies. Thanks.

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>>3035955
Tried fixing what stuck out the most.

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Crits?

It's still unfinished though.

>>3036104
Finish it, whats the point of critiquing unfinished work?

>>3035671
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh
DELETE THIS

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never posted here before, is this any good for a 20 min figure drawing session

>>3036159
it's good, now do more.

is there a recommended order of tutorials for someone who's never done any art before, and wants to be able to do figure drawing as quickly as possible? Does it make sense to start off with drawabox/keys to drawing, or is it okay to just jump straight into loomis?

>>3036271
>>3035597

>>3036271
You don't need Loomis to do figure drawing. You don't need Loomis at all, in fact, it's just a meme here. There are hundreds of books on the subject, and classes, and videos. Loomis is one (outdated) way.

As far as the "quickly as possible" thing, that's impossible to answer. We have no idea f you have any talent for it, how fast you learn, and how hard you'll work at it. Figure drawing is a lot of thing, and learning to control your hand is one of them, and that takes time and practice. You can't cram a year's worth of playing football into a weekend, and you can't cram a semester's worth of figure drawing into a week or less.
Pick one of the books, start doing the practice. You have no idea if you even LIKE drawing.

>>3036287
i guess what i meant by the "quickly as possible" bit was not that i'm expecting it to go fast, but that there are a bazillion tutorials and books and whatnot out there, and it's not really clear what's actually going to get me closer to figure drawing specifically, what's too complicated for me to actually gain any insight from currently, etc. I guess maybe I just need to try a bunch of them, but it seems like this is a place that tons of other people have probably been in before, so I was just hoping to get some direction.

>>3036059
Looking good, anon! Keep it up!

Careful with the dark letters though, letters and writing are always where the eye goes first

>>3036011
I feel this can be answered like most /beg/ questions.

Get the fundamentals down first. Then go sit on a park bench and pay attention.

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Can anybody help me, there was this one Japanese site I saw here long ago where you could draw over the mannequin. Anybody know that site?

This is sort of what the mannequin looked like.

It's on the tip of my tongue but I can't seem to find it.

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>>3036304
Here's my recommendation:
do drawabox lesson 1
>http://drawabox.com/lesson/1

Then read Michael Hampton's Figure Drawing when you can draw boxes proficiently

>>3036011
I almost exclusively draw people outside. Before that I did a couple of years doing figure drawings. I find that outside, the important things are being able to get things down fast, use few lines and be able to see the big shapes and gestures quickly. I guess a way to practice it, is to go through an album of nude figures on a timer, but that's not very realistic either as people outside are always moving. So, go outside as much as possible and do regular old figure and gesture drawings inside would be my suggestion. Always have a sketchbook on you.

Looking for advice:
I'm more interested in literature than anything else but I would like to learn more about art history. My favourite period of literature is Modernism and I was wondering if there was a similar time in art and if so, where should I begin with regards to learning about it?

>>3036329
I gotchu
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/atarichanDrawer.html

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>>3036346
Thank you very much, based anon.

>>3036331
thanks! I'll give it a shot.

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how do you shade black people? This is the first time I ever tried drawing a black person and I had no idea what to do.

>>3036367
Same as anyone, you copy the values you see.

>>3036367
is that nicki?
also are you handicapped?

>>3036375
Idk when I look at it it all looks one shade but glowy in some spots.

>>3036388
It was supposed to be Nicki :(

>>3036390
Then draw what you see. That's the whole idea.

You're not going to start inventing shit that isn't there just because you don't like what you see. Not when you're studying anyway.

Do we like Proko?

>>3036392
its close to nicki.
im just calling you handicapped because you think theres a difference between shading people with dark skin.
i'd understand if color pallet was your problem but you're working with pencil here.

>>3036403
Proko's tutorials, yes.
Proko's drawings from imagination, kek

>>3036415
Do we like pancakes?

>>3036417
>2017
>still eating gluten
Gluten kills the artistic mind

>>3035316
so is the neck. the perspective is also weird as hell. should have done a proper construction first before painting.

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First attempt at colouring anything since I was about 7 using paint in school.

Copied an apple from a guide thing someone posted here. I would like critique but mostly advice because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

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>>3036432
guide

Where can I find good references for gesture drawing?

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>>3035588
Are you the Loomis head anon?

Loomis is only about construction. It helps you create a model shape of the head. It won't teach you to draw a realistic one though. The only way to learn that is by attempting to draw a face from reference. Before you approach that though, you have to correct your symbol drawing.

Symbol drawing is when you are drawing what you think and not what you see. In your case, it's when you draw an almond shape line to represent an eye. However, there are no lines in a real eye. There is just value, different shapes ranging from dark to light. To draw it well, you must be able to replicate the shapes and shades of value with the pencil.

Look at this picture for reference and try to draw it. Instead of using outlines, you must draw using shades. Pay attention to the shapes of the shadows. If you still find yourself dependent on lines, turn the picture upside down so that you stop seeing an eye and only see shapes. You can still use lines but only to mark the broad shapes to keep your drawing together.

If you can accomplish drawing this, you'll begin to understand how to draw the entire face, and it will break you out of your symbol drawing.

>>3036331
what material do you recommend using when going through hampton? will the fineliners that the drawabox guy recommends be okay, or will I need charcoal to get different kinds of edges?

>>3036097
Thanks, my head was too large huh

Does anyone have a download for Vilppu?

>>3036464
This study is pretty goddamn fun, I can actually draw this to my usual level instead of just being confused and filled with self hatred

What are some good master studies of black people? I drew one black person and two people said I was whitewashing them.

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I'd like some serious critique

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>>3036602
Never fails

>>3036602
Eye on the left is too small and misaligned.

>>3036606
Every artist I know is female.

>>3036606
Wtf?
>>3036608
Thank you! I've actually didn't even notice it

>>3036612
Just mirror the image to spot mistakes. Top of the head is also quite angular.

>>3036606
Didn't know it was a taboo to even show oneselfs gender. I thought this board was filled with females ahaha

>>3036626
It is about 75%. You can tell immediately by the posting style (compare it to /g/ or /v/) and the fact that most males are good at science/maths/logic/technology and completely suck at art.

>>3036602
last time i painted my nails and put them in the picture for crit this place had a fucking meltdown. i love it

im a guy btw so if you want to derail threads, there's your go-to

>>3036628
>men can't into art
>unironically believing this
Please never leave the containment thread

>>3036432

Study real apple... more than once.

>>3036628
>most males are good at science/maths/etc
>can't into art

You mean most 4chan* males
Because if you go in the real world the situation is much different

>>3036448
>https://line-of-action.com/
and
>http://www.artmodeltips.com/poses/
and croquis cafe on youtube

>>3036464
What kind of paper/pencils do I have to use in order to reach that kind of effect?

>>3036475
Fineliners might be frustrating to use, but will help your line economy.

Pencil and kneaded eraser is also good to use if you need a confidence boost and want to make something to show to people.

Charcoal needs to be sharpened frequently if you are drawing small. It's not necessary.

>>3036660
graphite powder on bristol will produce the smoothest effects. A kneaded eraser is also immensely helpful.

>>3036673
thank you bro

>>3036628

>most males are good at not really anything and completely suck at art.

fixed.

>>3035641
Try using a textured brush for the skin. I like the hair, even if its messy.

>>3036641
pics or didn't happen

Is there some kind of book/tutorial on describing form with lines?

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any tips and tricks?

>>3036626
its not about your fucking gender, tis about your inability to crop out things directly unrelated to the drawing. May it be pencils, your face, your dog, a coffee mug, etc.

>>3036064
Thank you!

How do I put a commissions tab on my tumblr?

>>3036705
if youre in the beg thread, you dont.


FUCKING GOOGLE IT HOLY SHIT YOU INCOMPETENT MONGREL

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>>3036690
here's a quick paintover
Basically, you want to group elements together, don't leave a few equally sized things scattered about. You want to make a focal point and lead the viewer's eyes to it.
Randomly placed objects only detract.

>>3036708
you fucked the composition and youre gonna receive a lot of shit for it, id recommend you delete your post.

>>3036689
Do you mean with hatching?
If not, here's a helpful vid:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo

Mostly just practice on your own and see what works.

>>3036606
>>3036611
>>3036626
>>3036628
>>3036641
>>3036647
>>3036657
>>3036678
>>3036697
If you are not here not post drawings or crit, fuck off

>>3036709
Are you asking for a gesture battle, you little shit?

>>3036711
Yeah I meant with hatching.

>>3036714
you know for fact theres no way i can possibly lose twice in a row. Fucking join the sticky discord and lets fight it out like real men.

>>3036717
I wouldn't want to mercilessly crush you again.
Anyways, I am little tired, drunk, high, and comatose right now, so I'm not producing the best work.

>>3036726
is that a quote from the gesture battle video?

>>3036707
>not me

>>3035376
good work

>>3036641
/ic/ posters are quite prone to meltdowns

>>3036649
what does 'study' entail?

Hey guys, is there a such thing as the best book for beginners or not? I hear a lot about the keys and the right brain one and loomis, but not much beyond those.

>>3036773
No there's no such thing. You could pick up a calculus book and learn art.

>>3036762
The other poster meant that you should buy an apple and paint from that, instead of following someone else's paintings.

>>3036777
for what purpose

>>3036782
for the purpose of getting better you inbred fucking swine what else.

>>3036773
I started with Michael Hamptons Figure Drawing and Design

I can draw vague resemblences of the human figure and understand most of the anatomy and how it functions together. Still not done with the book tho

Theres got to be a better way to draw hands n feet.... theres just gotta

>>3036690
Advice: start at the beginning. A scene like this is way above your skill level. Pull the scene apart into pieces, and learn to render and draw each piece correctly, then try to combine them into a scene. There are so many flaws, it's pointless to call out all of them, it's easier to point you in the right direction. As always, go back to the fundamentals, and learn form, color, lighting, texture, and composition. Those are the building blocks you'll need to create a scene like this successfully.

>>3036689
It's called contour drawing, and any reputable book on drawing will have section on it.

Start here:
http://study.com/academy/lesson/contour-line-in-art-definition-drawing-examples.html

>>3036782
It's an exercise to improve your observation skills.
Keen observation skills greatly help with learning how to draw and paint.

>>3036787
It's not a dumb question, you summerhomosexual

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>>3035122
Flintstone turd foot
<30 min

Hey, what are some structured online lesson plans I could make use of? Draw a box is decent though I'm wondering if there's more stuff like that.

Self-studying is cool, but considering my lax personality, having a structured and relatively quick, almost teacher-like lesson that I can follow helps a lot.

>>3036876
Have you looked at proko's videos on youtube?
His Drawing Basics playlist has a lot of helpful information (you don't need to use the same materials as him btw).
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHFRfdirLJKk822fwOxR6Zn6

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Something different.

>>3036891
why are you the way you are?

>>3036891
I like the composition just the execution leaves much for wanting.

>>3036891
Your art is very cute, do you have a blog?

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How come I can copy an anime girl drawing alright but trying to imagine a fresh new anime drawing is nigh impossible?

>>3036909
Yes, it's dreamlagoon.tumblr.com

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>>3036881
Okay, cool, I'll check him out. I always humored the idea of "drawing along" with art videos--is it okay if I were to make a habit of it? I hear that beginners shouldn't have any distractions.

>>3036913
he's memeing you dude, just a warning, no one asks for a blog here unless real good

work on your god damn fundamentals

>>3036912
cause it ain't ez, if it was, everyone would be writing a manga

of course stylized drawings are many times easier to copy than make your own

>>3036916
>he's memeing you dude
What?

>>3036916
I was not "meming" them, I genuinely think their art is very cute.

>>3035120
>find /ic/ 5 years ago as a 14 year old
>become obsessed with drawing
>stop
>tfw could have been great by now

>>3036932
same except 3 years ago as a 24 year old. I'm probably going to give up again, and 3 years later when I'm 30 wish that I kept with it.

>>3036932
>>3036935
>not being so spiteful towards the community you cant give up

>>3036940
not me

>>3036946
ceci n'est pas un post

>>3036891
i just cant make fun of you.
do you see that if you improve your technical skill then you can make people happier with your drawings?

>>3036935
Yeah dude i remember being that 14 year old and thinking "man i wish i started when i was 8 like those artists from the progress pictures". It hurts me to imagine what i would have been by now.

I got into web development instead, and now I've been thinking of going into graphic design which made me remember /ic/. Knowing how to draw would have been so useful.

>>3036932
>tfw I found /ic/ 7 years ago when I was 13
>kept fucking around for years not fully committing
>tfw I have the same feel as you

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>>3035839
Finished this one.

Fixed the legs (inside was too rounded and outside was too flat), fixed the arms and hand like I wanted, manned up and drew feet. Wasn't too proud of the eyes or mask, but it's better my other stuff.

The clothes look thick-ish (I trimmed them down greatly) because that's the design in game. The neck down is a bodysuit, which is why the fingers and gloveless and the legs turn into boots.

>>3036912
Copying is easy because you are just drawing an already solved problem. Drawing from imagination requires you to problem solve and may not even know what the answer is.

>>3036988
leave /beg/

>>3036367
please please study fundamentals before attempting this. unless you want to draw like napoleon dynamite for the rest of your life

>>3035498
These videos are interesting, thank you anon. Would you recommend buying Cesar Santos' DVD? I know its $200 but I couldn't find a torrent anywhere and his paintings are exactly how I want to paint.

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>>3036690
>>3036367
>>3036891
>it's a /beg/ attempts a composition that is way beyond their skillset episode

>>3037024
/beg/ doesn't know how to teach composition anyways. That's more of a draw thread thing.

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>>3037006
not me

>>3036804
what makes good composition?

>>3037084
its in the god damn sticky i swear to god im gonna break your arms.

>>3037091
not me

>>3037093
it is in the sticky though.

>>3037093
Have you ever thought at some point he will just be you and you will stop being you?

>>3037097
one day he will stop being him.
and then i will stop being him.
and you will see that it is good.

>>3037034

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>>3037097
funny you mention that.

>>3037097
Fine, from now on I'll use a tripcode.

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>>3036932
>>3036956
>>3036957

oh yeah i feel that. used to hang out on dA but stopped drawing at some point, my friends from back then didnt and are fucking amazing nowadays

but yknow. you mightve stopped drawing but theres other skills youve worked on these last few years so theres honestly not much point in comparing yourself to your peers like that. just keep moving forward.

anyway ive been trying to get back into doodling recently so my skills are super basic dA-tier. heres a sprite redraw i did the other day, crit would be appreciated.

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>>3037097
here
>>3037107 will get bored eventually

>>3037109
good idea. let it be known that this trip is the original nosebro and all others from this pointon are fakes.

>>3037114
Still shit tier at everything else. Instant regret. No one gives a shit if you're amazing at games, but not a pro. At least with art, you can draw your waifus.

>>3037116
a real nosebro expert would know that recently i started porting my stuff directly from clipping tool. Which means its formated in PNG, and named capture.

>>3037109
this is not me and is someone capitalizing a tripcode

>>3037120
actually i still use photoshop to create screencaps but whatever, keep posting kiddo.

>>3037118
I feel like I'll never be amazing at anything, just mediocre at a lot of things.

i think im starting to develop a hand fetish after drawing hands constantly

>>3037114
>left:ps3 sprites right:original

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jesus

>>3037140
Nah, I doubt he looked like that.

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I've never really tried drawing from imagination. Do I have to get good at copying first?

>>3037152
You have to learn how the things you draw look. So yes, either get good at copying, or spend a lot of time observing and studying. You see humans everyday irl, in movies, in porn etc, so it's easier with them, but drawing animals from imagination is way harder, and really nobody can draw a decent cat on the first attempt without drawing them from nature/reference first, except maybe a felinologist.

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>>3037179
Well I just tried. I should give up forever, right? This is fucking terrible.

>>3037193
Try drawing the body without the clothes first, and try to imagine what it actually looks like, what form does every part have. But you probably still find it very difficult, because you don't know the human body that well, so practice with a reference.

Also, learn trigger discipline, or /k/ will hunt you down.

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What to do when your gf says she needs space from you and time to think, also crit please

>>3037235
I know it's part of your draw style but the chin is still fucking weird
It's not really clear where the light is coming from
The face should be thinner near the left eye
Overall it's pretty good
And for the first question ask /adv/

>>3037242
What is draw style?
But also thanks for the crit. I'll be sure to ask /adv/ but that board is really slow at times. Thanks tho

>>3037212
>Also, learn trigger discipline, or /k/ will hunt you down.

This

>>3037235
give her what she wants and prepare to move on. if there is doubt on her part there will be more.

>>3037248
it reminds me of a kind of comics style i'd say :
sharp lines, the way to shade, unfinished, etc

>>3037251
>doubt on her part there will be more
Explain please
>>3037252
Thanks for explaining that, in your opinion should I start on gesture next or boxes?

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I've been watching Alphonso Dunn and he says to crank out thousands of these mannequins to get proportions down. Is there any better way of practicing proportions?

Whenever I try to draw I seize up with fear of how bad it's going to turn out, no matter what I want to do. How do I get over this feeling and just draw?

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Hey /beg/, I'm having issues creating a sense of depth and scale in my sea monster painting. Can anyone provide any help?

>>3037502
ps the compression killed my values it's not actually that bad

>>3037502
It took me a minute to realize that the moster has multiple eyes, and not just goofy like that.

>>3037508
Ha, Like a flounder! I cannot unsee that now lol

>>3035154
Is on sale for $25

>>3037502
This is going to sound really vague, but thats because I have to go to work soon. But remember this, Value can be used to imitate depth, so push your darks and your lights in the right areas and the image will immediately pop off the screen.

>>3037193
Drawing and art in general is a long and arduous process, you have to find patience within yourself to steadily improve every day or you will never get good.

>>3035665
You have good sense of what the human form SHOULD be. But, you need to draw what is there rather than what you think should be there. The size of the eyes to the right is far too large, and your head shape is not the same as the pictures. There is good structure, but I would suggest learning how to draw from observation.

>>3035354
I like it. Just clean it up more.

>>3035508
oh fuck im hard

>>3036923
bleach your fucking eyes

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>>3036891
>different

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>>3035402
if your line of sight is parallel to the ground plane, your verticals will all be perfectly vertical. this will get you by in most cases - three point is if you're drawing something so tall that the vertical lines converge

your block is crooked because your third point is not directly vertical from your intersection

>>3035594
use fewer layers, process is good overall though
around :13 take a step back and compare your construction to your reference. this is the best place to make drastic changes. take a look at it and see how far off your angles/gesture are
keep at it!!

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I've been drawing seriously for about 5 months. Is this good progress? I wasn't absolute garbage when I started, but I think I'm better now. Source image: http://img.20mn.fr/7fN2lCslQEamo3HhK3NJOQ/2048x1536-fit_acteur-donald-glover-droite-createur-serie-fx-atlanta.jpg

>>3037687
also I;m sorry about the shit image quality, my scanner sucks. The values aren't quite that intense in real life.

>>3037687
>I've been drawing seriously for about 5 months. Is this good progress?

Not really imo. You're still symbol drawing and your work is very sloppy. If you take some time to be more careful in your work, you will see improvement. Work on your measurements, check the angle relationships and be very precise. Then when you're shading, don't chicken scratch. Do it as cleanly as you can.

Last, pick a better reference picture to draw. Don't choose pictures that are small and blurry.

>>3037687
You have a basic understanding on how faces work, but I feel like you try to cheat things you can't really draw (the ear for exemple), don't do that.

(are you french btw? ce serait plus simple pour expliquer)

>>3037140
wtf is wrong with her eyes

>>3037701
the shading thing was actually pretty stupid, because I tried to make it stylized and realized it was stupid so I just went back over it and totally fucked it up. What parts of the fave are still symbol drawing? Another anon pointed out the ear but more specific critique would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

>>3037705
unfortunately, no. But I do live in an extremely french area, so that makes sense.

If I wanted to make a comic and also have it be able to be read online how would I go about that? Like how comics and manga which are normally just physical copies are found on batoto, how do you get them online? Would you have to put it through a copier to upload the image online or something?

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>>3035122
I almost forgot his second hand

>>3035602

3 years?! Do you read any book or video lessons? Vilppu? Hampton?

>>3037706
i dont know man. i fucked up

>>3037711
Your pattern distribution is too linear, try to vary how the shirt folds
The ear is wrong, even simplified it shouldn't look like that
There should be a mouth or at least a line under that moustache
Try to learn how a shirt looks around a neck and then simplify it, because here it just looks like a bunch on lines to me

Sorry if it sounds harsh but i really like your drawing however, very efficient

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>>3037795
thanks a lot, something like this?

>>3037842
still some repeating patterns but yeah it looks a lot better!

>>3037710
>What parts of the fave are still symbol drawing?
Pretty much everything but you're beginning to learn. Still needs work though. Look closely at the lips for example and notice the difference in shape between yours and the reference. You drew a symbolic shape of the lips.

Don't stylize or use cross-hatching just yet. First learn to shade softly and make something look realistic. Then simplifying your shading will make sense later on.

>spewing the symbol meme in /beg/
neck yourself

>>3037975
>>3037975
>>3037975

>>3037975
>>3037975
>>3037975

>>3037975
>>3037975
>>3037975

>>3036464
Holy shit, a person giving useful information instead of meme-ing the usual "Read Loomis/Sticky"
I know Loomis and the sticky are pretty useful but it is actually encouraging seeing this kind of advices instead of just meme-ing. Not that i would look for encouragement in 4chan tho

>>3037012
I'm reading keys to drawing, this is what I did for the exercise. I thought I was trying to learn the fundamentals :(

>>3037502
You have a dark character in a dark background. Maybe make one of them light to stand out?