Draw Thread

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>>3032396

okay everyone CHUNBUM is NOT allowed to troll in this thread!

Don't reply to any of his baits!

Only provide constructive critique.

>>3032397
Loomis

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>>3032396
Thread drawn. Do I win?

>>3032403
What's not-loomis about it? I doubt you can redline it.

>>3032409
Yeah, give your Paypal to collect your $15.

>>3032397
what a waste of paint

>>3032397
its good first try. keep going. it has a lot of character.

>>3032453
Can you really tell by something that it was my first try or did you try to troll me?

>>3032462
by first try i meant its not quite there yet

it could be improved but i cant tell you how cuz its an expressionistic piece.

only you know what to do to improve it

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>>3032413
>>3032397
As I awoke, I was met with a blinding light. I could not move, but every nerve in my body was screaming out. As the light dimmed, I found myself surrounded by a thousand creatures from an origin I know not. In desperation, I prayed they could understand my native tongue and uttered the only sounds I was capable of producing


"Kill.. me..."

>tfw drew a nice sketch of my qt boss from work that I have a crush on
>can't post it for fear of someone I work with browsing here and recognizing her, then telling her how much of a fucking creep I am
Moral of the story. Never draw anything you wouldn't show someone else.

Why does it look so boring and lifeless
What can I do to make my art more eye catching

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>>3032531
Rotated image

>>3032531
learning how to draw would be a start!

>>3032535
Could you be more helpful
I know it's bad

>>3032468
>only you know what to do to improve it
Deep.

>>3032549
work through the sticky and post your exercises in the beginner thread. to be specific, you need to learn fundamentals

>>3032557
Okay then, thanks

>>3032531
>What can I do to make my art more eye catching
pose is stiff and rigid, try drawing him performing an action, like running or jumping off of something
also this >>3032557

>>3032596
finish it

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Just dicking around.

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Someone told me to leave /beg/ and read the sticky (which i am doing, again) so here i am
I drew this yesterday, i know the hands are awful and the sword makes no sense tho

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In this one i started applying shading but i am pretty sure i fked up
2/3

>>3032643
>>3032644
leave and read the sticky (and do the exercises in the books provided)

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Did this today, the fact that i decided to not press the pencil too hard and that i took the photo with my cellphone makes it kind of hard to see what there is
The thing is, what else can i do to make this better, all i have is a pencil #2 so stuff like "Use some charcoal" or anything in it is out of question

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looking for some constructive criticism

>>3032659
Use reference, the proportions are fucked

>>3032662
i mean i figured but what in specific?

>>3032415
You mean 15 /doll/ hairs.

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Can someone give me some crits? This feels off somehow

>>3032673
Yeah. I don't get why d/ic/ks don't want free money.

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>>3032396
Oh shit, OP is a wip of mine from like 3 years ago. Here's the finished version.

>>3032677
The point thingy between his eyes feels like it's going sideways, not in the same direction as his face orientation.

Are you planning to fill in the left side? Otherwise, crop it. Now your composition is extreeeeeeeemely unbalanced, while the clouds are leading the eye just straight off the page.

>>3032679
Thanks. How has your art been changing in those two years? Hope you're doing swell!

>>3032681
Thank you! That helps a lot. I can't unsee the imbalance in the composition now. I'm not sure what you mean about the part between his eyes, though, I'm not seeing it

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>>3032682
Funnily enough, I just posted in the old thread for the first time in a while. I'm getting more interested in graphic design nowadays. Here's that piece tho. It got lost in the deluge of shit posts.

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>>3032681
I feel like this actually looks worse for some reason but here's what I came up with

>>3032705
Yah, clouds are still empty space. You're not gonna add any other elements? Lemme do some comps, gimme a min or 20.

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>>3032715
What do you think of these?

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need redline for snouth

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>>3032623
this is really good but fucking unreadable.

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can i get a crit on this gouache study?
ref was
>>3026051

>>3032766
it was 6x4 inch so i didn't have enough room for all the heads btw*

>>3032766
also i am aware that the face is very off.

>>3032766
one more thing and i will stop same-fagging
is there any way i can make the colors brighter (or darker maybe she kinda looks like not part of the same image and washed out) without having to start over (like some kind of glazing maybe?) or would that over work it?

>>3032766
probably could have just used watercolor pans if you were going to do washes, way cheaper

>>3032785
that or arms are wrong, your choice

>>3032784
oh i'm using cheap gouache tubes i got on sale . i put small amounts onto a butcher tray and use it til its gone . its lasting a good while and i have quite a bit of it. i have one of those koi watercolor sets as well but i am fooling around with the gouache to learn to employ its opaque properties.

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>>3032785
and also gj hiding hands

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>>3032786
Oh, didn't see dat. tnx

>>3032761
I like that brush and your drawings nose brother, mind sharing?

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penises

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>>3032812
believe it or not its just one of the default options.

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coming back to art after wasting years on vidya games. decided to update this old piece and experiment with brushes while I try to figure out what the fuck to actually draw.

>>3032925
If you enjoyed playing, it's not wasted time. Life is short, we're all gonna die very soon. Spending your time having fun... I could think of worse things.

>>3032925
glad you came to your senses. good stuff

games are literally only mildly better than drug addiction

>>3032926
Life is short, video games are a huge waste of time

>>3032766
You're using them too translucently. Also you're still relying heavily on line to show form which makes this study a bit silly. What were you studying about this image?

>>3032785
Edge control

>>3032726
Fix your portrait first. Or study some animal anatomy, or grab more refs

>>3032761
Yeah, that's fair. Bunch of squiggly shit on a canvas. Ah well.

>>3032993
it was a general experimentation with the gouache. i dont like relying on lines and i want to be able to do more actual painting but i'm not sure how to start without lines or how to make them less obvious. but rest assured i dont like them. is there some process to recommend i could try out to not use line in a traditional medium? i know how its done in digital but no in traditional with watercolor formats.

>>3032723
Way better, really like that first one. Thank you so much

>>3033002
Really just draw lighter and looser, and then rely on edges or changes in value/hue instead of line.

Think hb or 2d pencil and just getting the general shapes down, and maybe drawing in the core shadows/separation between light and dark on each form.


Also if you want to go lighter, you need to use less water 3ith your application for the gouache to become opaque

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An anon helped me by telling me how to fix my outlines. So do think it's any good?

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How the fuck do ipad brushes work

>>3033080
No, but maybe ask alt art/stylization thread.

>>3033097
What app are you using?

>>3033099
Ok thanks

>>3033108
Procreate, forgot to mention. Was expirementing with the default texture brushes but they behave in a very strange way. Was trying to use it for sketching but I'm finding the weight of the Apple Pencil to be somewhat irksome

>>3032761
I cant believe NoseBro is actually good

>>3033117
the real one is pretty bad though

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>>3033097
>>3033114
Nvm figured it out a bit more. [/blog]

>>3033154

You seriously need to customize the pressure curve to be able to do anything in Procreate

Procreate is super streamlined and slick but I prefer paintstorm for the superior brush engine, and not having to click to open the color wheel. It takes guts to delve into though, as you'll have to customize your own brushes to really hit home. but I'd strongly recommend it once you're comfortable working with the ipad.

I actually transferred Greg Rutkowski's and Aaron Griffins photoshop brushes for use in paintstorm. Procreate won't open the brush pngs sadly. Rutkowski's texture brushes are ace though.

If any of you want them drop an email

>>3032596
i'm digging that saturated lighting on the hair

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how does it look (so far)

>>3033347
Naisu!

>>3032415
>>3032678
Retracing offer, right now. Crossposted elsehwere, don't want non-d/ic/ks to take up the offer.

>>3033264
ayy thanks. biggest trouble is figuring out the skin tone. once i get that sorted this will be easier lol.

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"Manhole"

>>3032856

thanks!

>>3033463
>Thumb on lateral side

BEG thread.

>>3033486
i should've looked at the fat naked guy in front of me for reference. Boy that's egg on my face

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>>3033486
i drew these today too, can i stay now?

>>3033498
Yes, you can stay now.

>>3033463
backwards hand and his penis looks like it's on his hip. come on

daily reminder that brian is a fun lad

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end of the week scribble

>>3033800
nice, neck is pretty long though

>>3033800

reminds me of catbib, got a blog?

>>3033805
dang ok

>>3033862
https://barkode.tumblr.com/

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Quick question.

I felt like the bodies I've been drawing have been too stiff and unnatural looking during my construction practice; some other anons pointed it out too. I started using Drawabox and finishing up on lesson 1 and plan to complete it in it's entirety since it's been a great help to get over my fear of failure, but I'm not completely sure if it'll help me with my gestures.

Is there a decent tutorial, guide, or hopefully, a book to help me improve on my gestures? I also don't draw from gesture references too often but I feel like I should also get to know some ground rules for gesture drawing.

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>>3034286
Drawabox is really only good until figure drawing

The Vilppu Drawing Manual and Michael Hampton's Figure Drawing start with gesture and build on that.

>>3034301
Thank you, anon. I have what you mentioned in my guide/reference folder. I'll finish up my Drawabox stuff and continue with those.

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>>3032397
>>3032726

Look guys, I'm improving.

>>3033030
ok anon thanks! so less water draw lighter. i will try that out on my next one.

>>3034312
youll improve faster if you just focus on drawing at your level

(don't ignore painting but drawing gains are the most sizable)

>>3034359
How many sketchbook pages by next week? Will do animals and humans. Maybe some manmade too.

>>3034368
Doesn't matter really. Focus on fundamentals and balance it with fun/application

>>3034415
>How many?
>Doesn't matter really.

Ok, I'll do 1.

>>3034419
1 quality page full of construction/anatomy/perspective is fine, its whatever pace you're willing to work at. Nobody is going to hold your hand through each step unless you're paying

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i've been in a weird mood today, i'm not sure what these are

>>3034467
they look great though, good job anon

>>3034467
The left creature looks like a Disney figure in realism, the top right could be in star wars. Really cool

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>>3034286

> hopefully, a book to help me improve on my gestures?

"Figure Drawing for Artists: Making Every Mark Count" by Steve Huston.

It's doubly valuable because Huston is both very experienced teacher tied through his whole life with ArtCenter which is one of the top art schools in USA AND accomplished painter on his own, being shown in galleries and whatnot.

Book is very good because it shows stuff that /ic/ talks about in disconnected way or not at all, and I mean the whole talk about doing gesture studies and construction.

Huston emphasizes (and rightfully so) gesture/structure priority, but in his workflow you naturally can fill your gesture with structure and he doesn't shy on both of those.

He also says some IMHO very important stuff about perspective in figure drawing and how to keep it, but without that heavy and unnecessary VP approach. It's even different from what krenz shows in his box method.

Anyway, read it, I think it is for you and generally seek for his videos on youtube, there's a lot of goodness in what he says, you just feel the years of experience from him. Even his Proko interview that isn't about techniques per se is golden.

>>3034564

Oh and btw, Michael Hampton was a student of Steve Huston.

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today shit

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just finished this the other day.

>>3034692

Dimensions, medium, palette, workflow, some more info? I like it very much, looks like a master study or made from photo ref.

>>3034709
8x10, oils/ 2 layers. grisaille underpainting with a color layer

the other info i could provide is the color temperature goes gtom cool highlights, warm light, cool half tones, warm shadows. its a slight study from a 1911 painting called the races of mankind

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>>3034312
Try painting simple forms first to practice your value control.
Use only two values first, then three values. Don't try to blend.

Right now, you are just smearing random values onto a page until you get something close to an animal.

>>3034578
>today trace

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>>3034692
Nice values, but try to refrain from using saturated cools when adding shadows to the face. Shadows on the face can look blue, but don't be compelled to actually use much blue paint.
In the painting, you randomly used blue in conjunction with dark reds in the shadows, resulting in a "muddy" look.

In my paintover, I quickly evened out the shadow hues to demonstrate how you can simplify shadows.

Consider doing a painting with limited colors as an exercise in controlling hue and values at the same time without getting overwhelmed.

>>3033347
looks great
the colors lack character imo, if I were you id add more contrast between cold and hot tones, the cold highlights could be more prominent, I would also add more color variation in the shadows. I would also change the bg's door, looks unappealing. or you could go for a deliberately low contrast result, almost sepia, although it would carry an entirely different message. it depends for the mood you're going for.

>>3034785
*the bg's color

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I'm tryin'

>>3034733
>Right now, you are just smearing random values onto a page until you get something close to an animal.

Nah, every value was a decision. Can you explain what gives the impression of it being random?

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self portrait

>>3034916
>isis

>>3034916
Nice job on following the form in your hatching. Got good volume.

>>3034916
quintessential hipster, sjw, democrat faggot.

>>3034948
I'm Italian I'm allowed to have a mustache

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Besides obviously the fingers, hands and the boobs, what else can i fix? Also it was my first time using colored pencils, what tips can you give me? because i felt lost using them, i know exactly zero tecniques about coloring

>>3032679
>>3032699
Hey. I love your style. Do you have a tumblr?

>>3034959
there's only one thing for you to do at this point: study fundamentals, learn forms, lines, study how things look, and then copy them. study for half a year and then ask again. what to study? everything. get some books in the artbook thread, read them and work through them.

for colored pencils: stack thin layers of color over each other to get an even coat. don't overdo it though, like you did on the hair. generally, you want to mix colors to get an interesting look out of colored pencils. also, only one line at a time. take your time coloring with them, you don't want it to look like a child's drawing for mommy's fridge.

>>3034952
>still a quintessential hipster, sjw, democrat faggot.

>>3035002
Ok, roger that, thanks

>>3034952
>be me
>be half Italian + half various whites
>get mustache as a joke for fathers day 2016 to look like my dad did 20 years back
>dad calls me a fag

Something doesnt add up senpai.

>>3035030
that was your mistake anon. You don't shave a mustache because it's ironic, or to pretend to look like your dad. you get a mustache because it's fun to have a mustache. and if you're doing it for any other reason you've already fucked up.

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How do you go from this..

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..to this?


I hate rendering so much, it's not fun and it takes forever

>>3035141

Looks pretty nice! if you want to make thing quicker you could probably start the rendering by using the lasso and pen tool with gradients or airbrush just in black and white and adding the hues later. The look will be different but I don't really know what you're going for... You can add the painterly strokes later too, though if you want to.

>>3035140
>>3035141

For rendering to be fun, you've got to FEEL it.

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>>3034312
Finished it.

>>3035140
wtf god level lines to shit level render. blog tough?

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Hey guise. Just a 1.5h. sketch. I'm trying to split my workflow into bite sized parts because working on everything at once seems a little overwhelming at times.

I'm gonna try and do my version of Marvel's Shriek character.

This is just part one which is costume design so I'd like to get feedback on that specifically. I suck at fashion design and female anatomy so yeah... My overall workflow would be:

- Costume/character design
- Material studies
- Female anatomy studies
- Composition sketch (3 value block in)
- 3D block in
- Final painting

So yeah. What do you guys think of the costume? Is it too slutty/complex/simple? Also what do you guys think about working in a more iterative fashion? I'm still learning so I thought it might be a pretty good idea even though it's gonna be a bit slow...

>>3035454
>Marvel's Shriek character.
I mostly feel it's too generic. Headed in the right direction, because I like it more than the original costume, it just doesn't have anything to hold interest. Can you add one element on what you try to achieve? Like, what makes it "your version of", what do you want to be different etc.?

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>>3035493

Thanks for your thoughts. That's a great question I should be asking myself and I really don't know the answer yet. In the comics she's a magical, interdimensional, ex drug dealer who uses sound as a weapon.

My main idea was just: "If they were doing a rated R movie with this bitch what would I show the art director on day one". But yeah. It's definitely missing something. Dunno what...

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>>3035493
Changed a few things, you might not agree if your vision leads elsewhere. I just don't know what your vision is :)

In your version, there's too much contrast between the raggy parts (hair, scraps of cloth at skirt) and supertight parts (like shoulders), so it's good to pick one of the two for the main costume and use the other merely as an accent (e.g. in the form of a sleek badge on a scraggly costume or in the form of a bandage on a tight costume)

>>3035502
>>3035503
Maybe just decide on sleek versus scraggly. Does she look supertight, afraid of loosing control, or is she trying to hold everything together but falling apart? This >>3035503
is more the first option, holding a tight grip on everything.

I don't know the character.

>>3035503

Man, I re-he-heally love what you did with it. Almost all of it. The asymmetric shoulder thing is also an awesome idea. One thing I really don't agree with are the red parts. I'm gonna substitute them with gold or a subtle blue tone and be done with it. I'm gonna have to rethink some of the materials now. Might also change the gold stuff into silver so she doesn't look so "classy".

Anyways, can't thank you enough. I'll start working from here.

>>3035502
>what would I show the art director on day one
Oh, also, avoid "bad" words in a studio & always show minimum three designs. Different designs, not same design with slight changes.

>>3035509
Have fun! :)

>>3035504

I think that even though >>3035503 did a great job on the overpaint I'm going to go for a slightly more scraggy look. Basically what he did but removing the gold parts and making the costume look like it's centuries old. Like a sexy spooky witch lady.

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

>>3035509
blog/... ?

>>3035517

No blog yet. I'll make one when I'm half decent.

>>3035519
ok :)

>>3034578
Hannah, is that you?

>>3033347
fucking great dude, keep going

>>3033117
nice self shilling nosebro

>>3035333
You'll never get my blog, cancer.

>>3034564
is there a pdf somewhere on this book?

I can't find questions thread, so I'll ask here
Do you guys have any tutorials on working with PS blending modes? I can render manually so I just need a workflow, not info on how light and color work

>>3035912

Just write "Photoshop blending modes painting" on Youtube. Do you have a specific question about them?

>>3035844

If it isn't in artbook thread, I'll upload it.

>>3034916
>>3034946
Guys do you have advice for a book or videos on hatching?

Thank you in advance.

>>3035844
>>3036156

Actually scratch that, I found it on one of those vk artbook groups. I used shortener because spam filter doesn't allow me to post it, you can check it via google if you are paranoid or search for it yourself:

goo(hereputthedot)gl/ZBiszq

>>3034733
I always wanted to do this shit but I don't know how. What kind of brush should I use? How do I paint with only two and three values? Are there some tutorials for this?

>>3034948
Genuinely kill yourself

>>3035699
please?

>>3036001
Really nice. Underrated.

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just finished this watercolor

>>3036306
D. Jesus?

>>3036308
yes

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Early wip of some WoW fanart

>>3036306
Very nice.

>>3036306
reminder that jesus had short hair

>>3036531
She was also black.

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good place to learn how to paint?
i tried ctrl paint but they're a bit vague and i dont know which section to start in

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trying to get a grip on digital drawing
I suck at it

>>3036540

Thats really good except for the legs being really bulky with all the extra lines. gj

>>3034843
I like it

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Some Abs studies, mainly to practice painting skin and muscles

>>3036552
howd u learn to paint like that?

>>3036560

I paint using a cross hatching method. I have mainly done traditional studies beforehand.

It helps to visualize the forms, and you hatch paint on top of those forms of where it is going, in or out. Then it is just a matter of rendering the hatch part to make it blend together.

Hope that helps

>>3036552
wait, are you the same guy who made that vikings laughing painting we turned into a meme?

>>3036570

hahaha, that sounds like something you guys would do, but no, its actually my first time posting, long time lurker. but would love to see the viking though

>>3036001
Looking great, Anon. Are you planning on finishing this? Would love to see the result

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critique please, would be very appreciated. feeling like something is off and i only have 5 hours to finish

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>>3036577
She doesn't seem to be looking at her target. Her gaze is too high.

I also feel like the bow should be held higher, or the woman should lower her arm as if she was resting it.

>>3036589

! thanks

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>>3036577
some very small edits (I'm far worse an artist than you)
I think just grab some more references and look at how they hold the bow - the angle and slight curve of their arm, the finger grip,
and their spacing of legs
Also think about how the fabric creases can better indicate the leg position, strengthening overall pose.
And as >>3036589 mentioned, the eyes look a bit daydreamy.

>>3036605
can't be far worse, as that was a great crit, thank you.

>>3036571
I've been away from /ic/ for a while, that guy was a regular around here. The thing is his stuff were pretty bad. I asked because I was wondering if this was a case of major improvement, but looks like it wasn't.
Nice studies though

>>3034994
http://marsillustrated.tumblr.com/

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>>3036540
>>3036542
got another1

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>>3036629
and a this one, which is a bit older

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>>3036617
no worries, I'm glad to have helped
I just tend to look at multiple references and find patterns in how the body works/poses itself
best of luck!

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>>3036629
quick redline
Try to make lines with more confidence. Draw with straight lines if that is easier for you.
Just don't scribble. Always make lines with intention.

It seems like you are trying to attempt perspective, but you don't have the anatomical knowledge for it.
I suggest that you learn the basic skeleton and proportions first, then move on to basic muscle groups. It's okay to continue trying to draw things like that as you study to gauge your skill.
Also doodle boxes when you can to help yourself draw in 3d and perspective.

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I'm having a real hard time learning how to blend. any advice?

>>3036710
simple: start at bigger brushes for your blending

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doodle

just bought Clip Studio Paint Pro, so good

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>>3036710
Knowing how to blend comes with experience and good knowledge about lighting.

Learn a bit more about anatomy, nothing detailed, but enough to accurately simplify the face

>>3036731
Ah, makes sense

>>3036739
Thank you, I appreciate the advice.

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Does anyone have advice on foliage? I know of the concept of abstracting as foliage moves back in space, but I don't know how to implement it. Any other advice would be great as well.

>>3036739
holy shit i see you everywhere now.

>>3036735
She'd look a lot better with a chin.

Also what's up with the shakiness of some of those lines (e.g. her upper right sleeve), is that Clip Studio's "no stabilizer" mode or was it intentional?

>>3036795
Good job dummy you painted it sideways.

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Experimenting with a new tablet.I can't tell if it would be better to add a thicker outline to the hair or leave it.

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>>3036799
Always make sure that the overall outline of the subject (hair and all) has the same line weight.

Unrelated, but study some anatomy, the spine does not connect in the front.

>>3036803
Gotcha thanks mate!

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>>3036001
fantastic

>>3036780
I'm no real help, but take a look at how other artists handled it

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>>3036807

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Haven't posted here in forever, my apartment building's IP is blocked

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doodle I tried to colour, but I hated the colour.

>>3036857
>that depth-building lineweight
Fucking great. Charming dragon, too.

>>3036846
Great graphite work. Especially the Cubist-esque hatching. The lantern seems to be betraying the perspective of the figure, though.

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I'm not sure whats up with the right one, she doesn't look right to me, are the colours too saturated?

>>3033800
wow I really like this one. the lips feel a little weird though

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Messing around with photo refs and lighting

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Trying out limited value range and soft brush. Mainly use hard round with opacity on for blending, how do you keep control with the soft brush? Feels like you have to really zoom in to get the gradations right.

>>3037119
>how do you keep control with the soft brush
i don't know anybody who uses the soft brush exclusively. You need hard brushes for edge control, if you use the soft brush for everything you will just get a blurry mess.

>>3037054
>noise filter to unify

I see what youre doing and you need to stop

>>3034843
MiKe WaZOwskI

>>3036176
lol, poor antifa, mulsim hugging faggot. eat shit and continue posting on r/resist

>>3036642
what's he doing? waiting on the next gibs me dat?

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>>3035454
>>3035502
>>3035503
>>3035517


Continuing with my Shriek fan art thingy. Just made a 1h. composition sketch for the final using some design doll and basic shapes. Not focusing on rendering at all at this point. Just trying to nail down the composition and value structure. Would like some feedback on this. It's probably gonna be buildings in the bottom of the background and an eclipsed sun behind her head.

I will NOT be taking this sketch to finish so I'm really not looking for advice on the rendering or anatomy on this. I'll be building the final with a posed Daz 3D model that I'm gonna sculpt to look more like my character sketch in ZBrush and I'm gonna be bringing that back to PS for a 100% paint over (Marek Okon style)

Tl;dr: What do you guys think of this composition and value structure for an illustration?

>>303726
>Continuing with my shit fan art

>>3036484
hey Nile, I really think you should take time to learn anatomy, landscapes, composition and drawing individually instead of spending huge amounts of time on big pieces that full of flaws from the get-go

>>3036484

I don't think it's a good idea to split your image in half like you did. Try to have more diagonal shapes or just focus on the right side and cut off the rest. The character looks promising at least. Look at Peter Mohrbachers stuff maybe?

>>3037631
I see what you mean but honestly id like to keep all that empty space, might crop it when im finished but id still like to have a version with it there.
>>3037599
Hey anon, appreciate the concern, while you do have a point with that i need to learn how to draw, i prefer having fun. Learning just a little bit but having fun is much more validating for me than grinding fundies, hating it and having greater results in a shorter span of time.
But ill try spending more of my time actually studying now that im out of school and have to take advantage of my time

>>3032533
Go back to beginner threads for a year, pick up fundamentals, read some books.
You'll do okay

>>3032677
Exaggerate your color palette more: with a greater range of lights and darks in the right places your work will get better. Your draftsmanship is okay but needs some improvement but I'd say this is halfway there. Composition is nice, if a bit cliche.
Try working with more saturated (not full technicolor though, you don't want a piece that looks like a rainbow shat on it) colors as a whole. Overall, fine, but needs work

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some things are a little bit off and i can't see them , can you help me ?

>>3037728

The tip of the nose is too slim which also makes the distance from the upper lip to the bottom of the nose too long. Just move the whole bottom of the nose down a bit.

You could do the core shadow on her chin a little subtler. No need for those directional strokes there.

Highlights on the shoulders and neck. Don't be afraid to go to 100% white in some parts.

I like how in the original image we kind of lose the silhouette on the top of the hat. You don't have any of the lighter values she has on the hat. You could also try to experiment with some different brushes for the material on the hat.

Looks good anyway! GG...

>>3037728

Oh and the bottom of the upper lip would probably be darker than the lower lip even though I really can't tell because the original image is kind of small. Also, look at the directions on the stripes in her hair. It's a U-shape. Yours is just going diagonally to the bottom right. The eye lash is also a pretty U-shape.

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how can i get this to look not-shitty?

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>>3037740
>>3037742
I tried my best to fix what you said. Thank you so much btw for taking your time and help me out with this.

>>3037802
Blend more. It looks like you just figured out the values. Unless this was the purpose , i suggest you to start rendering it a bit.

>>3037864
to help me out*

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>>3034692
DfP, is that you?

>>3037873
whoops, meant to post that separately but oh well. Any advice for this one? I don't like the shading on the crumpled jacket on the left but I'm not sure how to perfect it.

>>3037873
If you want to get better I don't recommend you using the pencil tool like that. You can get used to the software and the digital stuff by using the painting brushes. You can sketch the proportions and suggest the values with the 2b pencil . Then add the base values and blend. Unless this was made just for fun . Then i suppose they look acceptable. The mouths and lips look wrong. Measure them more carefully. Also the eyes. They have no depth.

>>3037891
I'm pretty new to digital art, so I guess you could say this is a muck-around work. Thanks for the tips. I'll give this a go with other tools and see how it goes!

>>3037894
In order to better use the digital tools i recommend you painting a spheres , cubes etc. It looks like you have the grasp the basics but digital art is a new medium so i recommend you doing that at first.

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is this depressing?

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>>3037898
I suppose the ruined building is the main interest point right ? You should add more details when it comes to light on it. I tried something but not too much.

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>>3037864

No problemo, dude. You fixed a lot of the stuff I was talking about but I still you could still work on it. I did a quick 15 min. version. Not sure if you're going for a 100% likeness tho so take that into account.

Made some quick texture on the hat (not really necessary but why not). Brought some highlights to her face and added some subtle values to her cheek and eyelid. Blended a lot of stuff with a textured smudge brush (You could try that. It keeps the painterly feel while blending). Some other minor tweaks. Hope you don't mind. U good anyway...

>>3037925
thanks anon. i'm not close to finishing it. ill add some details like u say.thank you.

>>3037936
I kept looking at mine and couldn't figure it why it didn't have any volume at all . And you literally came and saved me with the high light. It's true , when i worked on it the second time i tried to add some subtle highlights to it but i was way to scared. This changes everything. And the textured hat looks better . I will use the smudge textured brush a little more often. Thank you so much !!! Sometimes i forget there are nice people here that are willing to help.

>>3037172
what? he is reading the time on an hourglass.

>>3037940

No problem man! I'm actually working on a female character myself so this was kind of helpful for me too... Don't be afraid to go a little overboard with the highlights. If this was my piece I'd probably emphasize the cheek bone even more an make up some more highlights. It's a painting after all!

>>3037944

Nahh man. I just got a fuck-tonne of texture brushes and the values were all ready 90% there so this was pretty easy. I have more problems with construction than rendering so this is pretty much up my alley.

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I think the shadows/light probably overtake the base colours too much

>>3037963
bro u need to pause your color study and get that anatomy down. the anatomy is really funky looking..wtf and cartoony in a very bad way.

>>3037963
Check the values of the blacks and whites then get back to the coloring.

>>3037966
it is supposed to be cartoony (semi-realistic). can you specify on the anatomy issues? obviously I went with more exagerrated dog/bird-like features so as long as it's like that i'm happy. I believe I drew the shoulder and leg areas with accurate musculature at least from memory.
You can see the actual muscles here >>3036857

>>3037968
will do, thanks

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>>3037963

Value should almost always be your main priority. I actually think you should have worked this further with value only. Bounced light shouldn't be as bright as the top side. Also I think you might want to have that other hind leg showing because your version doesn't really read properly.

Oh and make a perspective grid. I really think you need it because the face, legs, eyes, horns and tail are all from different angles.

>>3037966
Brilliant critique, faggot.

>>3037990
Thanks, I realized I messed up the values when I turned it to grayscale after that other anon's post. Also I don't feel i'll learn much by using the in-program perspective grid, but i'll work on un-fucking the perspective myself.
Those claws were meant to be kinda wonky-looking though, I love how komodo dragon or eagle claws sometimes slant on their sides, but I still appreciate the fixes.

>>3037998

I didn't mean the in program perspective grid. Just make some vague lines going to a vanishing point/points. Just a 1 minute thing. I don't think you'll be able to un-fuck the perspective just by eye. Hope you'll prove me wrong though.

Keeppidup!

>>3037994
>>3037983

yea..believe me it's not workin out.

get your FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER.

>>3037119
I think it should be other other way around,
use hard brush more extensively to set down values, use soft brush to blend where necessary.

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How does this look?

>>3037983

Not him, but one particular thing I notice that's wonky anatomically is the face. If you look at the angle of the eyes vs the nostrils, for example. It looks like his nose is twisted. The left nostril is below the right while the left eye is above the right.

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>>3038122
Colors so far

>>3038140

stop. go back to the thumbnails. get that composition fixed. you're just polishing a turd atm.

>>3037963
Kinda looks like he is wearing a reversed baseball hat with how circular the top of his head is. The front right paw has a toe that looks disconnected to the foot. I like the flipper appearance of the ears (kinda like a seahorse)

>>3037898
mmm I love the way you've done the ground in curves and waves
Agree with >>3037925 it's a bit boring at atm. Idk about a human figure, but it'd be cool to have skeletal bug creatures or sth

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>>3038174

thnx. i realized how boring that building was.

maybe i can add a figure. im scared it will ruin the focal point tho.

>>3038146
I actually thought the composition looked good. Can you tell me what's wrong?

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i feel like sharing this as well.

i'm working on a series of apocalypse images.

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It's a finished piece, but still wanna know what you guys think. Haven't had any real artists qritique my work in so long.

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>>3032396
any advice? not for this piece, just in general, it's hard to see my own mistakes. I feel kinda lost.

>>3038344
don't bash, esp if you don't get how light interacts

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My most recent... thing, i dunno. I wanna get better with backgrounds and buildings and stuff but im still working on it. i tried rlly hard not to back that background fountain look like a dick.

>>3038344
color theory is my protip. Try to balance out colors. If you think that your picture looks kinda bland, try to use an unexpected color and that will usually make your picture pop like you wouldn't expect! For instance, the opposite of blue is yellow. In that picture you posted, you notice the big blue sky against the yellow dessert. That's all intentional. Brown is a neutral color, so that's why that spaceship works and adds to the picture.

^ just going on the assumption that you didn't draw the spaceship picture

>>3036296
>>3036572
>>3036810

thanks! yeah I am about to finish this

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Repost from Alternative Art

A contest entry

>>3038435
Her right leg looks like it's in the same plane with the left leg. And that shoulder blade looks weird.

>>3038454
>A contest entry
>>>
> Anonymous 06/27/17(Tue)03:20:01 No.3038454 ▶
>>>3038435 (You)
Yeah I wanted there to be backlighting but I'm not entirely sure on how to shade shoulderblades, or I guess how to draw them haha

Also what do you mean by the right and left leg are on the same plane? Like they don't look like one is in front of the other?

>>3038191
nayrt, but it looks like you just drew the mech, then added the background and figure as an afterthought.
The mech itself looks pretty cool on its own, but the perspective with the rest of the scene seems off. It looks like you're showing off what the mech looks like, rather than incorporating the mech in the scene to tell a story.

>>3038187
great job anon, it looks a tonne better now, I think you can even keep it figure-less because of how much more character the building has.

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le lazy girl face, trying for accuracy. esp. color

>when you try to cheat by color picking and it's never quite the right color

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>>3038140
adding onto what the other anons said, it'd be interesting to play with angles that emphasise the size contrast between the mech and the man.
makes it a little less 'boring'

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>>3037124
. . . No

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I feel like the right arm is a little off, help?

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>>3038793
Woah the colours came out wrong, hopefully this is a little closer

>>3038793
the entire anatomy is funked. that shoulder is way too low.

>>3038793
super cool bird guy tho.

>>3038793
idk anon. i think you positioned the guy wrong. hes facing his back to me and it's just off. the perspective on the bird is weird. his hand is on the ground in the mid ground but his head looks like its in the bg which makes it then look flat to me. this painting is not really captivating. looks like you spilled your fruity looks on your tablet or something.

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>>3038795
Better or?

>>3038806
what?

are you upset that somebody gave their opinion and point of view of your shitty artwork?

asshole.

>>3038815
not that anon but woah there, calm down.
there's nothing that implies being upset in their reply.

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>>3038806
not the best edit, but check your values anon.
a lot of the detail gets lost in the thumbnail

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new self portrait

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am I even on the right track here?

>>3038963

tfw you realize brian is getting better

>>3038976
no, drop it, start with the fundamentals of head construction and don't move into rendering until you have mastered them.

>>3039040
Bad advice, mastering head construction will take years, don't listen to this Retard and do both

>>3038976
Problem is your proportions, you made her face too big and little to no cranial mass, she also tilts her head a bit more than what you drew.

>>3039064
I know this. Wasn't about to.

>>3039073
Thank you, that is actually helpful

I already tinkered on it a little, but now I am out of time to work on it any more today. And I feel I only made it worse.

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>>3039082
Actually adding the file.

>>3039084

You'll get there yet anon.

>>3038480
Weird. I actually sketched the composition as a whole out from the beginning. I did have to fix the perspective a couple times flipping horizontal back and forth but now I can't see anything wrong with it. But I'll look again, maybe it'll look different after having slept and left it alone.

>>3038551
These look dope, especially the 3rd one, I need to play a lot more with more extreme perspetives, thanks for the ideas!

>>3038815
Op here, wasn't trying to come off as a dick, just asking if the edit was better or not

>>3038883
ok thankyou : )

>>3037728
If it wasn't for the ref everyone would be like:
>dat neck
>loomis
>giraffe

>>3039064
k then.

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Drew a big ol' sexy predator lady.. just pencil so far thinkin of coloring it digitally, but want a critique before i move on from the sketch

>>3039222
I totally agree with you on this one

>>3039262
I like everything about it. But they look a little bit stiff . Try to do croquis more often.

>>3039262
the guy's pose is too stiff, like he's just chillin and having a casual conversation with the titty predator monster.

>>3039417
>>3039304
yeah, i think the soldier does look a little stiff, its actually supposed to be sort of a mannish woman.. i think i will change her pose, maybe get rid of her leg armor, i think i tried to convey some sense of helplessness about her. Thanks fer the comments :)

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>>3033800
Love your work dude.
Did a little value study. If you mind me asking, how long did it take you for that pic?

>>3033878

I actually really love the thumbnail. Wish I was allowed to finish it. C00l-yo. Show me your progress!

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Does this look alright. I wanted my values to be kinda soft but I don't know if I overdid it

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I did this as a joke, but since I spent a bit too much time on it I'll ask for a critique. I don't quite like it, but I'm at that point where I can't pinpoint my own flaws anymore, so critique away and don't be gentle pls.

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changed her legs, or the bottom half anyway

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ugh

>>3040575
Her boobs are defying gravity and your color temperatures aren't believable.proportiond are off. Pose feels unnatural.

Perspective is convincing

Cat is super creepy and weird.

>>3040536
Nice detail but there are a lot of proportion issues on the dude. Perspective is off

>>3040501
Study what skin looks like under white light . Shadows are muddy too.
If you're spending so much time on it why are you leaving it unfinished? Push the details if you're serious , don't leave things messy looking

>>3040837
yeah, i think i agree, but i cant figure out what exactly is going wrong with it. i think ive looked at it too long, if someone can elaborate and suggest changes i can make without completely redrawing the soldier id appreciate it

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T-Thought?