Posting some illustration that made me realise my color skills

>>3015169
Colour is like the least impressive skill, any idiot can do it.

"Warmer" colours attract the human eye more (next to high contrast). Never delineate form with values within the same hue, it gets "muddy" and don't be afraid to shit grey all over the painting.

Colours are relative and you're better off with warm shadows on a "cool" (white/light blue etc) light source and cold shadows on a warm one. As long as your values are alright, you can and should get away with bloody murder colour-wise.

Boom, colour theory. Anything more you can do on your own.

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>>3015174

well fuck me. that seems not too hard. i'll post some of my art later down the line

>>3015174
>Colour is like the least impressive skill, any idiot can do it.
And yet, so many people either fail at, or fail to use color to their advantage. I think color is one of those skills that people take for granted when they're learning.

>>3015169
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>>3015191

I'm going to take a wild guess here and assume a lot of your work is too desaturated, and that you're enamored with these drawings because they are much more vibrant and colorful than your own work.

If you're working in Photoshop, you can really easily increase the vibrancy of your colors using Overlays and Soft Light layers. For example, if you have an object that is blue, create an Overlay layer and draw over it with a saturated light-blue. If it's too intense, you can decrease the opacity of that layer. By doing thing, I think you'll get similar results to the drawings you've linked.

>>3015174
Colour is like the least impressive skill, any idiot can do it.

I can't disagree with this more. What you've outlined is your basic, bare minimum color theory - and even then, it's easier said than done. You can dive much deeper into it to create color schemes that are incredibly impressive.

>>3015169

The hardest part about color isn't the theory it's taste.
Theoretical knowledge alone will not ensure you make interesting and appealing color decisions in your paintings. You know the hue value chroma website? The author knows a ton of theory yet his paintings have utterly unremarkable colors.

What separates the pros from everyone else is the use of color variation and having a "key".

Color variation is introducing multiple colors of the same value on a subject. It creates interest without losing form. Look at Ruan Jia or any of his clones and their skin tones for examples.

As for color keys, it's pretty simple. It's one, singular overall color that has influence on every other color in the scene. If my key is purple, all of my colors would get a taste of the same purple.

Also another generic tip: light source color+local color = light plane. Light source compliment+local color = shadows.

Painting a red apple with an orange light would tint the apple orange-red and a violet in the shadow. If i was also working in a green key, I'd make sure to mix/overlay that color over the entire apple.

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How do you guys paint a vibrant color piece without making it look tacky?

>>3015240
>The hardest part about color isn't the theory it's taste.
Well put. It takes a long time to develop a confidence in your colors, and to know what works for you and why. Someone's taste in colors plays a huge role in their style.

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>>3015275

that is the question

>>3015275
Use vibrant colors sparingly and contrast them with muted colors.

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look at this motherfucking composition

>>3015340
booooring

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>>3015350

your face is boring

>>3015361
This is stagnant and awkward.

>>3015371
senpai no bully pls

>>3015373
You know it's true.

>>3015217
This, I had this problem and solved it by forcing myself to use more saturated colors on my wheel

>>3015174

I will disagree heavily, retards that think that only values matter find out quickly that not all color exists in every value range and that color harmonies are a thing for a reason.

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one of my favourites artist when it comes to the use of saturated colors is Liiga, I still want to know how to use colors and give them such an athereal appearance.

I do wonder how you teach someone to have good taste. I imagine interior design teachers have to do that a lot, sense they are all about color harmony.

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>>3015371

you're shit at art and you have no idea what you are talking about, like 99.99% of /ic/, this is the only truth

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>>3015340
You're like a babby
watch this

>>3015275
Look at van goghs paintings then read Seurat's "from delacroix to neo-impressionism". Update the knowledge there imparted with the true 6 primary color wheel in gurneys "imaginative realism" and from there you should have a fair understanding of the mechanics of color.


Oh also, look up the 8 kinds of contrast. I cant remember source for that one

>>3015421
Looks average
>>3015340
>>3015361
Better composition, better colors

>>3015378
Stay delusional

>>3015287
Most great masters had a characteristically limited palette which suited their individual tastes. Its not about emulating another creators vibrancy or whatever as it is about finding a niche which suits personal need and taste.

Color is awesome because its so flexible and personal even within its own 'rules set', which are really just observations.

>>3015169
Color is the least important thing. You can color that turtle anything you want as long as you have to same drawing and values in the same place, and it will still look decent.

>>3015419
>you're shit at art and you have no idea what you are talking about

hurr durr post your work

>>3015317
Exactly! Just like on this picture: >>3015170 !
Almost everything is in muted colors, and vibrant colors are SO sparse.

>>3015419

>Jealous faggot artist insulting a completely superior artist

Why this happen so often here ?

The other artistic boards don't behave like that

>>3016157

Just to be clear I'm referring to:

>>3015378
>>3015371

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I'll post a few too. Here you can see how grey makes neighbouring colors pop

>>3015433
>>>3015421
>Looks average
>>>3015340
>>>3015361
>Better composition, better colors
wow, how does it feel to be so wrong

>>3015169
Your value is atrocious too. It's weird- like you can identify the light and dark places but not how light or dark they are.

>>3015174
and yet even most professionals are shit at it.

>>3015433
u retarded senpai

all of my pieces turn out looking muddy, especially once i shade them. color is my weakest point and it fucks up every picture i do.
should i just up my saturation or something?

>>3016349
How do you expect anyone to help you, if you're not even posting your work?

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>>3016469

>>3016349
don't think in terms of shadows do this instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY5VWOVtyxQ&t=990s

>>3015177
>Miranda
kek

>>3016558
Thanks, this was actually pretty helpful.
>>3016469
All of my decent, recent stuff is fetish commission shit that I'm embarrassed of.

>>3015427

Google isn't turning up anything for "8 kinds of contrast"

help please

>>3015169
>>3015170
>>3015172
personally I find this generic blizzard style needlessly lurid and gaudy. MORE SATURATION isn't always better.

it isn't very well composed either, especially that last one with the explosion

Most colors are less saturated versions of the base color.

Use more muted colors.

You won't understand that untill you get gud.

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>>3015174
>Colour is like the least impressive skill, any idiot can do it.

>warm shadows on a "cool" (white/light blue etc) light source and cold shadows on a warm one

top class demonstration of /ic/'s average (lack of) knowledge

>>3015169

Color = light. Thinking about it like this is half the battle. Light behaves in predictable ways. There are a few key concepts to color theory that help understanding, like color constancy, form principle, complements and whatnot. Subtractive color mixing is important to learn and best done mixing real pigments. Throwing vibrant colors all over a piece makes it tacky. making proper use of greys is key.

Warm/cool is a relative and shaky term, it's better to think in terms of chroma

Most fancy color pieces use subtler value differences with more contrasting colors. A lot of artists these days cheat using overlays and post-processing

>>3017797
lol it is not better to think of color in chroma, temperature is fine, and isn't a shaky term. you can use chroma if that fits your brain better but temperature does it's job.

i don't want to censure you too much because you're not wrong per se, but neither do you have all the answers, and your way isn't the only way, or necessarily the best. people can come at color however they want in theory as long as in practice they put the right colors on the canvas.

>>3017801
your just saying whatever looks good just do it

come on dude

>>3017802
no, just that chroma/value/hue isn't the only accurate way of breaking down color and that temperature is pretty useful.

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>>3017801

Of course I don't hold all the answers, that's why I didn't dig the other dude saying color is easy as shit. It goes pretty deep.

The problem with temperature is that hues are warm and cool depending on their environment, greys being the most stark example. This is not a huge problem for adept artists but beginners can get pretty twisted up in this. And it leads to dumb rules like shadows being warm or cool or complements or whatever. The way light and shadows interact is a bit more complicated than that, but basically the local color and secondary light sources mix subtractively, and if there's no secondary light source or it's very weak, the local color is darker and desaturated.

People who struggle most with these things are those who think reducing chroma or going southeast on the color wheel always means cooler, and that this is how you treat all lighting situations

>>3015169
I want to see this horrible uppity smug mutant midget die
why would you draw something so irritating

>>3017936
>hating on SHELLY

kys