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im back

I know I should drop this but its actually for a job so I can't.....

I don't know if I should have the lighting like the left or right. The left doesnt really look correct but the right looks like there's too much light I think.

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Not much progress because of so much projects at uni the last few weeks
>>3001647
The right is way more better dude, also nice job

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>>3001647
This is the last one I did for this person and they're in a set, so I need the quality to be the same as pic related, but they're really different subject matters so I'm having trouble telling where I should tighten up.

>>3000000

>>3001647
the right one looks more interesting, but I would make his back darker.

>>3001650
I like your style

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Any advice for this one? I'm specifically having trouble with the arm on our left.

Also any advice for the rendering? I sometimes have trouble deciding which edges should be hard or soft, I'd appreciate any recommendations there as well.

Testing out the Cintiq Pro.

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>>3002003
Oop.

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Here's a linework. Tomorrow morning I will get into painting it a guess.
I will check this post then. So if you have something to say, say it now

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values aren't working out, probably going to scrap this one

>>3001647
lol, didnt read, though it was a stereoscopic image so i looked at it crosseyed trying to see the 3d effect for a while

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>>3001943
You might find it helpful to move the arm away from the body to add in some negative space for a bit of breathing room in the silhouette! I'm not much of a rendering guy, but I also thought it might be helpful to throw in some reflected light on some of the forms, especially where there's cast shadow like on the guys' chest. Don't forget that metal generally isn't just gray and would actually be reflecting a lot of red from the guy's body! Maybe do some armour studies just to see how they reflect their surroundings and how the image becomes warped in their curved surfaces.

>>3002248
this is super helpful dude, thanks a ton!

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Hey ic, this is cloudgirl, my latest composition. Let me know what you hate about it :D

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>>3002186
Aw, I'm liking it so far. I think you could make it work if you darkened up the shading a bit.

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>>3002248
>>3001943
you could also mess around with locking your guy on his own layer and applying some airbrushed light source.

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anything glaringly strange? I could def make the fabric a bit better and work the edges more.

>>3002456
the values in your cast shadows are too bright. darken them up and it should look coo

>>3002456
The value is fucking everywhere dude, define those shapes more

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jumping on the arms hype train with this one

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how am I doing with these? help me out

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>>3002416
thanks! I was too much of a wuss to push the values when I was blocking things out, but seeing your example really helped visualize how it'd look. I didn't really change it up much, just laid down a multiply layer to make it darker and changed some hues around, but I think I'll just move on from this and be sure to do some value thumbs for the next one. thanks again, though!

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Trying to practice form & values as I feel these are my weakest points at the moment.

I'm also not super good at painting trees.

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>>3002564

>>3002564
get the horizon and the sea in there and it'll look more complete. not a bad start though

>>3002588
Damn, I hadn't even spotted that lol.

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>>3001650
>>3001810
Thanks for your help guys. :) I was gonna go with the other one cause I was paranoid but I'm glad I didn't.
>>3002244
Kek, I wish I knew how to make one of those.

I think I'm gonna call this done, I know it could probably be tightened up a lot more but I'm not getting paid a whole lot so here it is~

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just finished this.

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Process :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trXwEPkrJh8

>>3002722
Nice anon, do you have a blog?

>>3002567
This is not rendered well, the previous progress picture looked better. The rocks just look copy and pasted, not very natural looking. It's as if the rock formation is sitting on top of the water rather than being in it.

>>3003141
I think that picture got photoshoped, the rock doesn't look nature.

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>>3002169
Process
My shitty laptop is crushing while working on this

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Should i ink it?
please tell me what do i miss

>>3003239
I love it, post it when it's finished please, or link to your art page?

>>3003245
no
anatomy and proportion

>>3003301
thanks dude !

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How do I render figures? I'm not sure if its my technique or something but the rendering always looks shit.

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cant figure out the lighting, especially with the water. the only light is coming from the shell

>>3002524
Theyre pretty good, but try being more consistent in your shading lines - too many spaces between. Looking sketchy is fine if that's what you're going for, but it can turn sloppy looking without consistency.

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too dark?

>>3003141
Sorry, I was on a tight deadline and had to do some photobash.

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fussing around with some friends characters and some color.

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More value/form studies, if anyone has any pointers they would be greatly appreciated

(master study, bottom is feng obv.)

>>3003954
slap some of the highlights on the mountains. there's highlights all over the rocks etc giving them more texture than what you have. good start as usual though

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finished this today

>>3004041
Am I the only person that's seeing more colors in the compressed thumbnail than the final pic? Browns and reds in the shadows, more saturated greens in the mid-tones.
It might just be jpeg compression but these are pretty good suggestions actually.

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Started as a value study and kinda turned into its own thing

>>3003130
see
>>3004124

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Drew my pup while she was napping

Pen and colour pencils

Critique welcome, I haven't done any colouring in years

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Does this look metal? Also, how can I make metal more interesting around the highlight?

>>3004514
Yeah, it does. You got your reflections and a wide value range characteristic of reflective metallic objects.

http://prismblush.com/metal-shines/
You could always darken the area around your speculars a bit to make them pop more. You could also add some color variation with an overlay layer. The example I linked is stylized but you can always do it to a lesser degree.

I think your metal looks fine, though. A lot of what makes metal interesting is what it's reflecting - if you're not happy with the lighting conditions you've got, try to shop around for other references.

>>3004144
Shade perpendicular to the form, not parallel. Your shading is already pretty weak, perpendicular lines will give you more control over it and will allow you to do a better job on areas such as the legs.

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Just having fun with loose sketches today

>>3004514
texture and using smaller brushes

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Clothes'll cover just about everything but how's this before I go any further

>>3004612
its so cool to see you drawing black women, this board needs diversity. #blackgirlmagic

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Reducing myself to zero first to try to break out of this rut. Putting digital art off unless on weekends. Help very much appreciated on fundamentals and gesture.

Mix between photos/figures

>>3004815
lmao

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generic imagination stuff, been working non stop and just wanted to draw some random shit.

>>3003239
heh, also wanted to draw a gorilla with wings because harambe's anniversary popped up or something and an idea of a gorilla chimera just appeared. Keep it up though, looks very interesting.

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Am I doing this right?

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>>3004874

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Was mainly experimenting with how I draw lips in this pic. Any tips?

>>3004525
>>3004625
Thanks, will try this out!

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Thats my ultimate work i hope someone like my "art"

>>3004928
The flatness of the stomach looks a little wierd and you should really ground the pose with the feet.

>>3004963
you obviously don't want to post in /beg/ where you belong, so just go stay on deviantart/tumblr

>>3004942
oh shit you're right i completely forgot. I'll update tonight, thanks.

also, that was the starting pose i used, decided to add a little bit of dynamism.

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new painting

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>>3005133
I just thought maybe that drawing was good enough that I could post it outside of /beg/.

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is there a decent method to digitally coloring grayscale drawings/paintings?
Or is it better just to paint over them?
I've heard some things about using gradient maps and overlay layers but I'm curious to hear other's opinions on the matter.

>>3003342
take your time, and look at the large shapes of values. block in the larger shapes first, then work incrementally smaller. by the looks of your drawings, they are very sketch. if you want to stay with a sketch type of style, i'd say the rendering is alright. if you want to stray away from the sketchy ness.. work on your line control and shading.

>>3005154
level of painting i'm trying to reach right there

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>>3005159
i usually paint in greyscale then mess around with ctrl+b or ctrl+u to mess with the colors and paint from there using overlays or w/e i feel works.
>>3003927
like here or in attached pic

>>3002524
I love this kind of style. Is there a name for it, or any particular artists that draw like this?

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thoughts

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>>3005344
He looks like a British officer that went native.

>>3005354
dont make so obvios that u use soft round brush. Why the dark value on the neck has no soft edges? Where is the shadow bellow the nose? Dont forget where is ur light source. And ur hair is reflecting light everywhere and too much. And why this lazy round particles? But the drawing is nice, she has a nice animu face

>>3005344
separate ur foreground and background values. We cant see what is going on. Do form studies! Dont use white for the eye! Nice mustache though

>>3002524
Not a fan of the moustache on the bottom left guy

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Lewd 4 arms

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>>3001636

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What do you guys thing?

>>3005936
a little too detailed in those eye-bags
remove some wrinkles maybe?

>>3005936
i like it, it has a nice ethereal quality

>>3005943
Thank you. If i finish it soon ill upload.
>>3005937
I will try it on a the next painting. The under eye wrinkles over time became like my style. Not sure if my sentence is understandable.

>>3002524
I love the guy with the cigarette. I feel like out of the 3 he is showing the most expression.

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I'm not sure If I like this.
Please /ic/, is this shit?
I feel like it's very chaotic, with all these colors and elements, but none of the being really consistent or working as a focal point.
Any suggestion?

>>3005928
Construct and render

>>3005994
Its not shit, but you need to keep working on it.
Art takes hours, sometimes days.

>>3005994
I like this a lot.

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>>3005994
I actually really love this anon, I love the concept and composition. I love the characters. It's beautiful. I was excited about seeing you work further on this since you posted the first sketch.

I'd consider going back to your values in order to get a higher range and contrast in terms of your highlights and shadows. The characters seem to be ascending through the clouds but the mood of the clouds behind the characters seems to be overcast, grey. Utilise them breaking through the clouds or light filtering through the clouds onto the characters to play around with a stronger sense of lighting. This will help the characters in the foreground "pop."

After that, it's a matter of further painting and refining details until you see fit to call it finished. The more detail there is the more the viewer's eye will be drawn to it, so focus your detailing on the characters/points that matter. If they're passing directly through the clouds you might want to think about moisture (very subtle water droplets etc.)

Good stuff, keep it up.

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>>3006012
Am practicing sketching, not rendering. Wanna learn how to sketch.

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>>3005994
It's really good, but there's one thing about the composition that I'd like to adress.

Of course I don't know what you want the focal point of this picture to be, but at the moment it's the monkey on the hand.

I tried to draw in how the eye travels in this picture - your eyes normally follow the natural lines on a picture, but we also follow the direction in which characters look - and in this particular image, one of the lines of sight clash with the natural lines. This can be used to draw attention to the particular character (which it currently does - my eye always travels back to the monkey that looks into the 'wrong' direction), but it can also distract from the rest of the image.

It really depends on what you are trying to achieve.

A possible 'fix' for this could either be to adjust the line of sight so it looks into the same direction as the other characters, or to redraw the face of the monkey, so it looks like his eyes are closed/he's meditating (this 'removes' the line of sight)

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>>3005994
Colors are fine, more a value problem. Focal point problem can be fixed with an overall stronger scene lighting to give it cohesion. Make the big guys belly have the strongest highlight and focus of the scene. Darken your other highlights (maybe even overall image, except for the belly) so they don't overpower your main focus highlight. If you use anything as strong as the belly value, it should be sparse, and only for helping define shape along the big guys head, shoulder and tiny touches on the small monkeys.

If you desaturate your image, as a test, you'll notice your big guys legs currently have the same value as his belly, and you should not do that. His legs should have a darker value. Checking your image in greyscale can help sort out this kind of problem to help develop your eye better. Unlike my shoddy example here though, the monkey sitting on the arm should probably have a stronger backlight/toplight on the tip of its headpiece.

It's a good image by the way.

>>3006091
>>3006127
>>3006131
Wow. This is /ic/ at its bests.
Thank you all very much. I'm gonna keep working on it and I'll post when I get it further.
Special thanks to the last anon, the greyscales one. I find you critique really helpful. Thank you again

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critiques?

>>3006305
Too asian

>>3006305
background and skin tone are too close

pick a warm for one and cool for the other and separate the values as well. Do you cross-check with a greyscale layer?

>>3006367
yeah, i was aiming for a generic animu face, but did it wrong.
>>3006376
i dont see the value as a problem, i guess is the HUE, everything is so close in that aspect. I tried to put some cool small brushes along the paint, but i guess it did not work to bring the painting away of boredom.

>>3006391
>i dont see the value as a problem
I disagree, but if my paintover doesn't convince you, then I'll deem it a matter of personal taste.

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>>3006391
>>3006411

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How do I into hair?

Honestly tho I dunno what I'm doing, does anyone have a good tutorial?

why does me replying not bump the thread? Stuff changed on /ic/?

>>3006418
it convice me, man, thanks. Also, nice changes in the outfit, in the shadow on the neck, and the values of the chin and the mouth. Maybe if i wasnt too lazy i could saw that and polish it more.

>>3006420
http://gurneyjourney dot blogspot dot co.uk/2008/04/hair-ribbon-secret.html
bloody spam filter

>>3003395
Where do you find the refs for these if you use them?

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>>3006305
adding on to
>>3006376
>>3006367
>>3006411

>>3006482
:(

>>3005273
>>3005987
hey thanks for the feedback. these are just some variations of some loomis plates that I found very helpful. (if you're still around)

>>3006461
I know about this technique but I still find it difficult to give hair a good texture :(

>>3006482
i really did not like the changes. U just change her features to a uglier way. And fucked up the values. What u did to her nose. Where is her expression? u deleted the semi-smilling that is cute. U did a ugly asian. I Did not like anon.

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>>3006491
>>3006420
Here's what I would do in your style

>>3006498
ok
sorry you don't like it
next time I will try to please you specifically

>>3006477
The heads where from imagination.

As for the close up of the eyes I used this site for reference
http://tumbview.com/portraitsfordrawing/grid/random/

>>3003395
You're rendering is excellent but you need to practice head construction more

>>3006503
Than you very much friend

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A delivery

>>3006562
naisu

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Finally decided to actually paint something.
This is just a sketch so far.

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>>3006700
Wasn't sure how to dress this guy, so I took the first thing I saw on /fa/ and quickly painted it on
Thoughts?

>>3006780
give him a slav hat to him and the dog

>>3006973
and bottle of vodka in the other hand

>>3006780
Is this guy getting ready to fuck a dog?

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1hr 33min

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Anyone wanna give me a rough critique on this?

>>3007105
Probably traced

>>3007096
Study what you don't know

>>3007161
I traced it from a sketch I did, yeah

>>3007096
paint in the hands, feet, and face, you are just hurting yourself more and more as you avoid them

>>3006973
>>3006985
I'll think about it

>>3006987
It's actually a coyote, but if that is how you want to interpret it, sure

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>>3001636
>>Photoshop Brushes
>http://cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/tower_of_evilzz
Is that link dead?

I really want to get some charcaol or chalk-ish brushes like at here on the OP image for example.

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hoping to start cleaning this soon and possibly add some figures later. does it look ok so far?

>>3005154
Some interesting stuff there, but you still have problems to represent depth because of the brushstrokes and values you use

>>3006562
very nice, some (very subtle) incoherent shadows here and there but very nice overall

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>>3007397
stairs more like a shelf
doesnt look inclined or even climbable. too steep
also inconsistent shadow
1. unless the board is directly above the light source, the cast shadow formed should form a 'triangle'. pic.
2. cast shadow indicates top side illuminated

put more thought into it anon. that door(?) is for midgets and i dont know what the hell topright is

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I have been messing around and getting more comfortable with my new tablet and clip studio.
Also trying my hand at a bit of horror, which I rarely do.

Opinions are appreciated.

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painted some clouds

>>3007662
did you try the other anons advice?

>>3007705
I did! Gave me a nice base to work from.

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Any tips with how I could go about improving from here? I'm kind of struggling a lot with hair and making faces look better.

>>3007838
I think the rendering is nice, specifically in the lower right of the image; those colder shadows do a lot for me. I think that could get brought up into the face as well. Maybe more contrast in the eyes as well?

>>3007838
i also think some more contrast around the eyes.
i think the collar bone area looks too far down on the left i dont know your ref photo .
i like it so far tho.

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Shit i don't like how this turning out, should i just give up or power through this one?

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>>3008031
start something new and come back to it later

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Yeah.

>>3008162
you need to work on that perspective

>>3007673
very pretty anon

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Some delivery for /vr/

>>3008268
Yeah, I know. Cheers, dude.

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I'm trying to learn digital painting. Is sticking with grayscale a good idea?

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>>3008804
2/2
I'm in the mood for a point and click adventure.

>>3008804
>Is sticking with grayscale a good idea?
Yup!

>>3008811
No. Draw in grayscale first, but color every b/w piece you do. It's a very difficult but fast way to learn color theory. First, use a gradient map. Maybe even multiple gradient maps with masks to separate them. After that, use a "color" blend mode layer, and an overlay layer on top of that for some more saturated colors. Soft brush to paint some on. Add a multiply layer and paint in some shadows. A "Screen" layer for bounce light. Never paint in pure black and white... You won't learn shitttt.

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>>3006780
>>3007336
Okay, I tried adding a bottle and fixing the shoes.
I'm kind of having trouble with the perspective and I really don't know how to paint glass.

I think I'll take a little study break before I finish this

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tried out pov sketching, probably gonna add some colors and shades

>>3008842
Dutch?

>>3008845
german, got similar trains I guess?

>tumblr
>deviantart
Honestly not very happy with either of these sites right now. Anybody have any decent alternatives?

>>3008817
Thanks. I was never sure how people managed to add color AFTER value. Didn't know what kinds of layers to use. I'll take notes.

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>>3005994
That's awesome. Got a blog? :^)

>>3007339
https://mega.nz/#!9ZghnTCA!Mk2eAOFJH7rs6qDBUDy2OmYyZg-g3j8AU9c12s40fgU

Here are the brushes I used. It's mostly one chalk brush (Pepe Bones) along with palette knife, some dirt brushes and mixer brush using Sampled Brush 3 18 and Sampled Brush 3 19,

You probably won't find it very useful (I don't use a ton of chalk brushes) but I hope it's better than nothing. Shaddy's brushes should be in there too.

>>3007838
Fix the value range on the red scarf, it looks almost flat compared to the value range of her skin and hair.

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iunno...i think i shitted it up with colours.

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young winona

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Trying into rendering, how is it?

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Should I have the second dragon or is it too complicated with the colours?

>>3009421
just make the farther one more desaturated and lighter

>>3009303
I like it. Was it drawn with blue pencil and watercolor?

>>3009501
yes how did you guess?

>>3009505
I wasn't guessing, just wanted to make sure

>>3009182
https://www.instagram.com/jordi_milian/

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>Took a lot of time on this
>Realize it just looks ugly despite my efforts

Is it the boring pose, the lack of anatomy, and design that is doing this, or is it something more?

>>3009889
Is the low effort hand and skewed gun enough to ruin the picture?

>>3009889
I just realized those fingers are xbox huge.

>>3009889
Take a picture of yourself on the same position, and u'll see the mistakes.

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Which one is better, this one?

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or this one?

>>3009918
>>3009917
I'd say the bottom one is unless you want her legs to be a focal point in the drawing.

>>3009921
>>3009917
>>3009918
Blown up,
I definitely prefer the bottom picture.

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>>3009889

it isnt bad, its just that the perspective is boring

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finished this yesterday but it doesn't convince me for some reason, character is Julith from Dofus the movie, feedback would be appreciated

>>3006562
link me ur blog

>>3009970
I think you have a good sense of depth in your picture and it seems you're able to render well. But I think you need to work much more on anatomy and gesture because they are pretty lacking.

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done i guess

>>3006488
They are awesome. keep it up!

>>3010018
Her shoes look unfinished to me.

Amateur/Starting artist here, decided to transition into digital. I've got some questions.

-Photoshop or SAI? I've got access to both but I wonder which will make my transition less (painful) and will help me the most at it.

-Do you guys have any recommended coloring tutorials? It looks so complicated to work with layers and such.

-Any good starting tips?

Sorry if this isn't the correct thread to ask these questions and thanks.

>>3004612
Cool, but there are some issues with her bones.
For example the curve of her left arm is determined mainly by the natural S curve of ulna - to find it, imagine as if anconeus was pulling on the bone, sending it into a wave like motion.

>>3004928
You started learning the muscles too early, my man.
Proportion and gesture, that's what's easy to spot on a correctly constructed skeleton and if that is off, no amount of muscle detail will fix the drawing.
Bones first, muscles come later.

Nice work tho, don't let me discourage you.

>>3010084
Software doesn't matter all that much, I'd probably go with PS first, Sai for lightweight anime, CSP for more complex line based workflow, Krita for Linux users.

Ctrl+paint has a lot of good shit for beginner and transitioning digital artists. Scott's How to render, draw from life, start with values.

>starting tips
Make sure you're comfortable with traditional media, don't get distracted, start simple, limit your palettes don't over render, don't rely on undo or too many layers or it will become a nasty habit.
Stick at it, you're learning a completely new set of skills so there'll be a drop in quality of your work at first, but you have to push through.

>>3009978
Thanks! I just recently started to get into a more "realistic" style so anatomy is giving some troubles here and there, I'll try to study it more, any tips or suggestions regarding to the anatomy in this one?

>>3010084
>>3010170
I've been drawing in sai for a while and I think for the transition from traditional to digital sai is a bit more easy than ps, the layout is simplier and so, however ps have more tools to play around and color adjustment options are better than the ones in sai

As for the tips I'd say to start with some testing for the tools, maybe do some studies, b/w pictures, etc, for sai I use the default brushes so I'd encourage you to try these instead of customized brushes to get used to it, for the coloring it really depends on the style you're going after

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not sure I'd be able to finish this thing today. I doubt it. I'm so out of practice.

>>3010170
>>3010203
Thank you both for the replies, I believe I'll start with Sai as it seems more amateur friendly. Will still, however, focus more on adapting that trying to go all out.

Once again, thanks for the replies, really appreciated.

>>3010018
You should be setting a base color and then choosing colors off of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kQllLy_X4I

>>3010068
They are unfinished, i just left them

>>3010209
The girl on her knees looks incredibly small. Like a [spoiler]child [/spoiler] desu. Might want to make her body a bit bigger if that's not intentional.

>>3010349
yeah they're supposed to be similar age. Not loli. Thanks.

I was hoping to take this to color, but I'm not sure. Could just make it lineart.

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finally finished a study.

>>3010436
Nice work! Is that just a noise filter thrown on top?

>>3010436
Any tips on how to get as good as you?

>>3010436
So what did you learn?

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Test sketch to test a slanted brush. I haven't drawn digitally in so long so I want to prepare before I get back and shade my dragon pic ( >>3009421 ). This guy's kind of ugly but I like his anatomy

>>3007838
pretty expressionless despite being naked and tied up

>>3010436
algen tier

>>3010436
solid work

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Not really sure what this is.

>>3009937
That looks messed-up, but I can see what you're talking about.

I'll be sure to push it next time.

>>3010686
Me either

It looks like a giant vault on a cliff with a city on-top. It's probably a city in a barren wasteland, and you're seeing the tip of the ice-berg.

>>3010441
Yes, i worked on manga studio with the default brushes, and there's no way to really get texture with tools even after I asked here, and Im basically a beginer on Ps, so i just said fuck it and put a filter just enough to give a texture, dont know if thats cheating
but hey lets say its the canvas.

>>3010444
Really dont have any... Just draw, and then paint.
>>3010452
:^)
>>3010477
>>3010529
Thank you.

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I'm using more than one layer for shadows/highlights for once, and it is the most tedious thing ever, I don't know how people do it.

>>3010686
looks like some sort of mad-max styled water reservoir. Several pipes are letting it flow out into a bottomless ravine or some crap.

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Really though, am I even using layers right? This workflow just seems awful, having to go back and forth between shadow and highlight layer or having to erase bits of highlight if I want to extend some shadow areas since highlights are above the shadows... No idea if this is the proper way to do it.

>>3010802
You get used to it.

>>3003342
Try using your finger to smear the pencil marks around. Get a good base and then push your darks and lights

>>3004980
I like it. the shadow with the hand over the skulls eye is the only thing that i would change, other that that 9/10

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>>3001636
I don't usually do realism. Tear it to pieces please

>>3010828
did you draw from live reference? Did you have a lighting scenario. I mean at first glance it looks alright. Not sure about how you handled the neck though...

>>3010828
Don't be afraid to take multiple pictures and just upload the one that's actually in focus.

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>>3010837
Nah I just used Google images to find some sculptures for practice

>>3010856
try to set up your easel/drawing pad so that you're looking at what you're drawing and your subject at the same time.

Either that or keep the majority of your view on your subject.

>>3010853
My phone is shit, sorry

>>3010861
I also have a shitty camera on my phone I use to take pictures of my artwork with. As >>3010853
said, take multiple pictures. What also really helps me is taking the picture somewhere outside. The lighting there always seems to be better and for some reason my pictures are then almost always in focus.

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I just finished this today

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Any pointers please?

I'm afraid liquefying her lower body really messed up the perspective, but I'm too deep in tunnel vision to tell for sure.

Is it normal for the inking to take like 3-4 hours?

>>3010802
Usually you block in your shadows, then paint light under that layer and highlights are probably the last thing you do before post production effects.
As you paint, you should get a decent idea which layer types are necessary and which are redundant. Group your layers to keep them organized.
If you think you won't be moving some layers anymore, merge them together.

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>>3011411
take advice with a grain of salt, I'm not the best when it comes to anatomy

>>3011411
Thanks for the layer tips! I'm actually going back to read Colour & Light before I'll redraw the dragons with a better method, I'll keep yours in mind.

>>3010729
It's a fair question, what did you learn? Can you do a few line drawings from different angles? Or do something similar from memory?

What did you learn? Probably nothing, stop pointlessly rendering studies like that its almost a complete waste of your time.

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>>3010828
>>3010856
I like it, but though you're seeing (which is good), you're not really analyzing what you see.
The shadows don't stand on their own, they always conform to the major planes they sit on.
If you put a too bright light onto a shadow plane or a too dark shadow onto a light plane, it will break the illusion.

>>3011442
That's what I was looking for, thank you anon for lending me your eyes.

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>>3011411

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background study

>>3011468
>Can you do a few line drawings from different angles? Or do something similar from memory?
yes.

>stop pointlessly rendering studies like that its almost a complete waste of your time.

I know, but I didn't go in this study to learn about the female anatomy, I went in to test my rendering skills. I never do studies, this is one of my firsts.

ffs, do line art only and people complain, do a study once and people complain too. this board...

>>3011574
I'd study that background if ya know what I mean. :3

>>3011574
I'd blur the photo plate (?) of the tree's reflections a bit before going in with the blending. Currently, there's some parts that are fully sharp.

Each surface has its own roughness properties, and you won't get perfectly sharp reflections in this lake water, especially with little ripples all over like that. The sharpness in your image is doubly weird considering the *actual* trees we can see are blurry, too.

>>3011559
she's a cutie

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Should I continue with the Loomis studies in Figure Drawing for What It's Worth or go ahead to vlippu to brush up on facial features and construction? I feel like I don't know enough about the landmarks of the body enough to comfortably construct figures in any position I desire so far. Is pic related enough to gauge what I'm weak in as far as female figures?

>>3010686
I adore your values and brushwork. Whatever it is, it has a clean look to it so far.

>>3011574
Looks pleasant so far but the colors of the foliage seem off. I think it has to do with the lack of whiteness from the clouds behind them to give a more concrete contrast in the original photo. And the ripples of the water don't seem very convincing, I'd suggest you block in the entire form in the water and then go about mucking with them again. Colors are well done; did you use the eyedropper?

>>3011551
Is this watercolor or alcoholic markers? It's been way too long since I colored anything traditionally.

>>3011411
>>3011442
Her chest looks like it's puffed out a tad too much in the side by side reference.

>>3010802
>>3010730
How do you organize your layers?
I try to keep them in as little layers as possible with sketch/lines/values/color and a layer above all of that for details so I don't get confused. You could always group them together in a folder and even merge them if you think you can manage them from there.

You ever get to the point in your art where it feels like you have plateaued and you know perfectly well that your art sucks but you also don't know what there is that you need to do to get better?

What do you do?

>>3012064
Study by the basic art fundamentals.
Value, Composition, Color, ect.

Pick one that you feel the weakest in and start to improve upon it bit by bit, continue with another value and it just becomes a cycle from there. Since I actually read up what the fundamentals were I began to expand on them since I could categorize them easily enough and get a general idea of what I was needing to brush up on.

At the moment, I have little formal knowledge of color and composition besides the magic that is the color Gray and the rule of thirds.

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Making propaganda posters for my illustration class. What do you guys think? Besides the small hands

>>3012064
Yeah. for the past couple years. Shit sucks.

I think what I gotta do is just spent more time on each piece, rendering in form and value and such. Using references to find more design elements to insert into scenes. But still, I getcha.

>>3012060
I wouldn't recommend you to study figure drawing, as yours kinda lack sense of form. Drawabox and Peter Han's Dynamic sketching is what I think you should be doing.
Cheers.

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>>3010436
I have this pic dated october 16 2016. It took you 8 month to get from picrelated to your current version? Really? What have you been doing all this time?

>>3012060
its watercolors

>>3012339
working, studies are boring, focused on line art when i had free time, and i didn't feel like picking it back up are the main reasons.

I was deciding on what to upload to the blog 2 days ago, saw that, decided to finish it and publish it.

>>3012364
You wanted more asspats from retards that think theres merit in that kind of activity then, got it.

>>3012367
so jelly

>>3012367
exactly, yes. you got me dude, you're an exceptional debater. truly one of a kind, a once in generations talent. you should consider going professional and wreck all those kids.

>>3011574
there's something super funny about taking the sexy girl out of a sexy girl photo so you can paint the background, lol

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The Three Muses
Acrylic on canvas, 75 x 75 inches, 2017-06-07
C&C welcome

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>>3012371
I am a professional. The idea of working on a study over 8 months and posting it again because its now a bit more finished is contributing about as much as this shitpost.

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revised

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>>3012508
>he honestly believes someone took 8 months to do a study
>he can't read either.
>I'm a professional

this must be bait.

>>3012557
Still waste of paint and time, get better at drawing first (anatomy, form, gesture).

Janitor, I know it's fresh for you and all that, but tone it down, bro.

>>3012557
FUCK OFF YOU CANCER

>>3012579
Stop shitposting.

>>3012557
i want to like this but the forms aren't great, and it needs better brushwork. seems like you are just painting like it's a coloring book.

still vastly better than anything else you've posted.

>>3012557
These will sell for millions!

>>3012770
literally what one of my friends said
>>3012758
my other friend told me either you respond like that because you are either jealous or got no talent

I really don't know what could be improved on this work. All my friends say it's a spectacular painting.

You have some really high standards.

Something like this from my friend would be a more valid critique:

"It's really good. I like how smooth the colors are in the picture. The only things that look kind of weird are the lifesaver and the fish. They look kind of flat compared to the other parts of the picture. The background is a bit out of place too as it looks a bit lopsided. Other than that it's great"

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mahscles

>>3012557
Nice work, but the difference between this and the style you're probably going for is space.
On one hand you're creating very graphic, flat shapes with symbols and cartoony lines, picasso style. One the other you're using shadow and rendering to create depth. Look at the breast of the girl in the middle, that's a 3D form right there.

So yea, you have to decide what you're going for, a more graphic or a more realistic style, drawing symbols or drawing form.
If you keep switching between the two you'll end up with an inconsistent mishmash hitting the uncanny valley.

>>3012849
I agree with this crit.
>>3012557
I think some artists that exemplify what >>3012849
was talking about and may be helpful for you to check out are people like Matt Bollinger, Ridley Howard, and even people like Phillip Guston or Dana Schuz.

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Took this pic in Jerusalem. Would be honored if someone used it as a reference.

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Is this too stupid to finish up?

>>3012941

>human skull.
you had one job

>>3012997
I told you it was stupid

>>3012804
>"It's really good. I like how smooth the colors are in the picture. The only things that look kind of weird are the lifesaver and the fish. They look kind of flat compared to the other parts of the picture. The background is a bit out of place too as it looks a bit lopsided. Other than that it's great"
This guy knows how to critique.

>>3013010
more of you guys should critique like that rather than screaming "cancer" and saying "poor everything like anatomy".

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messed with filters to try to visualize the end product

Still not fully rendered

>>3013013
The people who do that don't have the skills to critique.

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I wanna make a hillbilly thorny dragon lizard dude who sells hot dogs on a stall in the desert. I'm doing a basic pose sketch first so I don't fuck up my final illustration.

10min. Alchemy sketch+1.5h. painting. I think he needs more accessories. Probably gonna give him a shotgun on his other hand. Maybe some tattoos? I dunno. Any ideas?

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Still doing form & value studies. I don't feel like I'm doing so well, so any sort of help would be appreciated (I'd especially like to know what I'm doing wrong most and if there's anything I can do to correct it.)

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>>3013267

>>3013267
>>3013268
The right cliff face looks a bit light in my opinion. Makes it hard to differentiate from the mountain in the background.

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why does his face look fucky, and how do i go about the axe?
any crit would be great to hear right now. this piece is driving me mental and i want to finish it tonight

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>>3013290

That's actually really great. I don't know what you mean about the face being Fucky. It's stylized and he looks like he's losing it. Like he hates being in the snow and stuff.

Three things that stick out to me:

1. I wouldn't hold an axe like that. Gravity would make the blade of the axe want to drop to the left side. You could make it a two faced axe or something but this really isn't a big deal.

2. The dutch angle looks good on the guy but it looks fucking weird with the horizontal stance of the wolf. It's like the dude is from a down angle with a dutch tilt and the wolf is from a completely different angle. Just tilt the wolf or turn the dude 25 degrees to the right so he matches the wolf

3. Your shading is really great but I'd like to see more variation of textures on the dude. Some wrapping around the shapes etc. I'm going to use Dave Rapoza's piece as an example.

Don't rush it! This looks really awesome but it could be FUCKING AMAZING with a little work. GG either way...

>>3013298
thanks for the feedback. (that dave rapoza piece is good inspo, thanks, i'll push the things you mentioned).

for the 'dutch tilt', i'm not sure i really meant to do that or give that impression. i imagined that he was on a hill. this has been fucky since the beginning though so i can see why it communicates this way. gonna try tilting the wolf.

thank you so much for the crit and stuff. it helps so much

>>3013302

No problemo. It really is an awesome piece as it is and I'm nitpicking because I like it.

Just need to add to the part 3 of my critique. Just gritty up the dude. His "fucky" face implies that "He's seen some shit" and I'd like to see that in other aspects of the character. I don't feel like you need to bloody him up or anything. Just some grit in the textures he's got. His clothes/hair/axe as clean as they are almost makes it feel like a cosplay even with all the nice values you've got there.

>>3013305

ooh, yeah, i'll get some grit on him. he actually has been through a lot (Fitz from Robin Hobb's trilogies).

yes agree it looks cosplay-ish. :(

i'm glad you like it, it makes me feel better because i really don't right now. :/ i started off excited but when you compare yourself to where you "want to be" your head gets in a negative space. so you really helped me tons, thanks.

>>3013084
Love the rendering here. Mind talking about your process a little bit?
As far as the idea for the character, I like it quite a bit. If he's a hillbilly lizard dude, I think his eyes maybe make him look a little too smart. Maybe a bit more rounded eyes, or show more white of the eye? Reads more cunning than hillbilly at the moment. The overalls are good, and the idea for a shotgun is good as well. As for other accessories maybe he needs a trucker hat or a sign or some sort of advertising for his business.

>>3013290
The head and neck are not sitting on the body properly for the perspective, and probably there would be more foreshortening happening and more of the underside of the chin showing. I think you should be careful with feminine features too unless that is intentional, but they are some very full and red lips, feminine eyes etc. The body is not in the same perspective as the wolf either. The snow also is too uniform in my opinion and looks weird how it just isn't in front of the guy at all.

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>>3013316

Thanks man. Haven't continued working on the dude yet. Probably gonna work on him for another ~6h. tomorrow. I'm only doing this basic pose so I can get some practice doing the textures and other shit for my final illustration(s)+I have some concept stuff for my shitty portfolio. I don't really have a process here. Just a shitty 10min. alchemy sketch. Shitty line art and working with 100% opacity/flow brush. I don't normally start off with color so I'm not sure this is gonna work...

I referenced Brad Rigneys lips for giggles but I'm still gonna give him proper lizard eyes. I don't want him to look like he's an animal. More like he's an intelligent being or a mutant. Like some NPC in a video game that you go for if you need rations and stuff.

I'm not really big into sketching. I made two ~10min. sketches of what I want to do in the end just so I have an idea of what I'm getting into. I just do them for myself so they're not pretty to look at. I'm doing 3 shots for this portfolio piece:

1. Establishing shot of his "Beef" stall where he sells his shit
2. A customer transaction with another weird mutant dude
3. My character sketch (the unfinished one I posted)

I'll be doing the final character and parts of the scenes in 3D. I don't know why I'm even writing this... Probably so I'll feel better when all this shit is done. Should take about a week.

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>>3013325

is this head better?
no, don't want feminine features but you can guess what i've been studying more lol

snow is temporary, i'll definitely fix that.

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>>3012557

>>3013340
I think it looks a lot better.

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Some studies done while studying colour & light - I chose these pics because of the blue sky reflections.

>>3012060
>How do you organize your layers?
I haven't done digital in a while so I was trying to do it how i've seen professionals like Aaron Blaise do it (shadow layer and highlight layer) but I think I'm going to stick do the minimalist approach since I'm most comfortable, although your idea (lines layer < colour layer < values layer < details layer) sounds pretty good, I'll try that next.

>>3013481
>although your idea (lines layer < colour layer < values layer < details layer) sounds pretty good, I'll try that next.

Take that with a grain of salt, though. I find myself struggling to figure out a decent process for my pieces and wouldn't want anyone to follow to closely in my footsteps in that regard. I assume you know a bit more about how to lay down the foundation of your art so I'm not too worried. I've just noticed that the pieces I'm most proud of and were the most visually appealing had a simple set of layers to them.

>>3013483
Nah if it doesn't work i'll just go back to how I always did it, I just felt like everyone else used more layers so maybe I should too from a professional standpoint.

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current drawing. Ima try and color it after i finish up painting over it a bit. it's just basic sketch and block in of major shapes in different values.

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>>3013340
i took a swing at making him a bit more less ladylike. head was also too small...

>>3013618
everything across the waste and down looks out of proportion now... before the head was out of proportion. this things a mess anatomy-wise. i can't redraw the whole thing so let's just say it's the perspective and call it a day.

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>>3013628
here i just lasso tooled them, this looks more human

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Can I get some critique on this?

>>3009507
op here, yep a deep indigo prismacolour and some peach watercolour

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Thoughts?

>>3013618
(Ps, this wasn't me, the original artist for this image)

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did a painting

>>3013811
>donut steel
calm down anon

>>3013662
I'm lost, what are you trying to convey? If it's a pokemon move I think you did fine with conveying the idea, but the Pikachu itself needs more expression.

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Gonna step into the rendering phase now after I take a break. Gonna consider my colour options in the mean time, hope this piece turns out lookin' fine.

>>3013910
I'll admit I didn't really have any "idea" in mind when drawing this. It was mostly an exercise to practice perspective/rendering/anatomy. I'd like to hear some technical critique on it if possible.

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How can I improve the pose? It looks kinda stiff or wrong, I can't say.

>>3013970
I guess the biggest flaw I see is that there's an indication of light but no actuap depiction of light. Having a large rim light around Pikachu and the object would help should how powerful your source light is. You'd then have to desaturate the subjects as well - how much is up to you.

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I'm doing a still life in acrylics - thoughts?
I think I'll add some twigs in the left up corner to fill up that hole and to point toward the apple some more.

Photos of my work look like shit. Do you know a way to make decent pictures with camera from a phone, or do I have to buy a real camera?

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>>3013917
Update. Would love to somehow give that little bit more life to the skin, but I'm diggin' the cape.

>>3014328
Normal people have big toes on the inside of their feet.
And his arms are uneven.
And I honestly doubt that giving him only 4 fingers makes this picture better.
And your lighting is inconsistent - his chest is mostly in shadow, while his hips are lighted. Angle of his hips and his chest should be roughly the same in this pose.
Ear on the left side of the picture looks really flat, which is jarring when compared with the ear.
And there are some weird effects in the bg, around his body - you could've avoided that by putting figure on a separate layer. And the halo effect isn't necessary around his raised hand, since it's not lighted so much.

Finally his diaper isn't full of shit and we can't see any hints of his dick through it - you completely failed to pander to diaperfags. How are you going to make it without drawing obscure porn, Anon?