Alright /ic/, what is objectively the best social media platform

photobucket

>>2976011
kys senlie son of a bitch

Tumblr because its easier for people to share your work
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>>2976018
Not really because unless you get reblogged by someone famous or draw fotm shit no one is going to see your work

Instagram, by a long shot.

Deviantart is highly underrated when it comes to getting exposure. If you don't do fanart, I'd say DA is definitely the best way to get your work noticed by people.

>>2976009
just post it everywhere.
post it on Tumblr, dA and so on, make a time-lapse and post it on YouTube and Vimeo.
also don't forget to draw art of CURRENTLY TRENDING TOPICS and memes to get those precious reblogs or retarded normalfags. be a giant social media whore and that way you will become famous and maybe even start earning money.

>>2976043
>just post it everywhere.
This is a sure-fire way to burn your self out.

Pick one or two platforms and run with them.

>>2976009

artstation

>>2976009
4chan

>>2976038
this desu

>>2976018
>I've never used clubs on DeviantART

>>2976067
No, is just burn if you are lazy.
You literally just have to upload the file, put the tags, add to a group if is in Da, done. Oh oh is.... so hard... i can't handle put... too much clics..

>>2976009
I'd say Instagram but I prefer the way Tumblr looks. Instagram can make even a shitty artist popular.

>>2976268
>Instagram can make even a shitty artist popular.
Explain

Been using both tumblr and deviantart, tumblr seem to generate a bit more traffic with the reblog thing, I probably should consider getting on instagram

>>2976213

Do you mean groups? Because they're still a massive pain in the ass to apply for them and submit to them.

>>2976038
Why?

>>2976067
Lol, most of these platforms have a unified share feature. Upload to Instagram, and you can share it to Twitter, Tumblr, Flickr, Facebook, and a couple others with one click.

From there, make an upload to dA and imgur, and share your imgur posts across Reddit, and you're good.

>>2976213
I feel the novelty's worn out on groups and they don't give as many +favs as they used to.

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>>2976227
>too much clics
That sounds mentally exhausting and that sacrifice of dignity being a buzz word whore is degrading.
Not to mention the audience good probably want can smell the stick of you media whoring about and won't even touch your work.

>>2976041
Can anyone else confirm any success on DA? Has the site grown past it's animu shithole reputation of the early 2000s? It seems logical if most of those artists moved to tumblr and left only serious artists behind and I do notice the front page doesn't show absolute trash 100% of the time anymore.

If so what's the best way to go about it? Clubs?

>>2977242
This. If you copy and paste the description from your instagram post you can even shave time down on adding it to imgur and DA

>>2976009
depends if you prefer Sonic or Steven Universe fanart porn

>>2976067
>>2976227

While I agree it's good policy to join and post to as many places as possible, it's also important to prioritize a couple of them. Developing a popular account requires more than just posting, but social interaction with fans and supporting other artists, i.e. the networking part. You would overextend yourself if you try to give equal attention to each platform.

Choose one to interact with pros, and another to interact with fans and for your own casual blogging needs. The optimal platform changes depending on which field of art you pursue.

>>2976043
this, no excuses

>>2978454
>>2978457
Considering the popularity of certain platforms can wane based on a few factors, it's good to post in a variety of places

Also PSA:
Any links you post in a tumblr post will make it so you do NOT show up in search results now. Apparently even mentioning other sites like redbubble for instance can cause you to not show up.

I didn't really look into how extensive it is, but it's been circulating around my tumblr dash lately from different people so it's worth mentioning and you can do your own research on it.

My suggestion would be to put the end part of the link into an image of examples of whatever you're showing if you're trying to send traffic to another site (Like patreon or redbubble) if it turns out to be as severe as it seems. Some reported seeing a drop .

bump for interest

>>2978554
Just add: Stickers available in my redbubble, link is in my profile description, and so on

>>2981700
Which is already kind of inconvenient and will make you lose business because people are lazy as fuck. Study human behavior in terms of consumerism and you'll see why it's kind of a problem.

Maybe it won't impact everyone in a noticeable way but smaller time or beginners are going to notice.

I like 9gag, high audience, easy to post and share

>>2976038
I'm also going to vouch for Instagram. It is so much easier to get noticed on Instagram than on any other platforms.

One person with a relatively high number of followers follows you? Bam. You're on all of their followers' explore feeds now, and most people check their explore feeds a LOT (it's one of the main icons after all).

Want to tag your art to hell and back? Go for it. There are numerous websites that will tell you the top ranking tags for the day, and unlike tumblr, EVERY tag you use will be seen (only your first 5 tags on tumblr matter).

Instagram also has a stable app, so that's really neat. It's 2017. Most people use their phones more than their computers. An app that doesn't frustrate its users is everything.

>>2982507
I agree with this. I even got an offer through instagram to be part of a local art show (I wasn't prepared enough so I had to decline but I kept their contact info so i still have an in since they approached me first)

Plus like others have said it's easily shareable to all your other platforms.

My one and only issue is that you can't upload from the website, it has to be from your phone (Unless i'm a retard and missing where I can upload on my laptop?) but with google drive it's not an issue.

>>2982558
>it's an issue
>but it's not an issue
You know what i mean, sorry, i'm going to bed.

>>2978280
Join Groups and Clubs on DA.
Usually they have thousands of members, and you can submit fanart for easy exposure.

>>2982558

It's a pain in the ass, but my solution is to upload to tumblr since I'm doing that anyway, then save the image from tumblr to my phone.

>>2976316
Dude, most groups on DA will let anyone join them and its just one click of a button.
They are great for getting lots of exposure and fans quickly.

>>2976111
Artstation and hentaifoundry are literally the only art websites I know that will actually review your submissions and REJECT them if they aren't "up to standard".
Not very accesible to people other than pros or patreon junkies. HF used to be more lenient with what they allowed to be uploaded, but that was a long time ago. Now they refuse poorly drawn and even loli.

>>2982809

Yes, but every time I make a drawing I need to manually go from group to group and submit my work. If I did something that I wasn't already in a group for, I need to find a group. The submission search bar is fucking awful and you need to remember the names perfectly, too. Some groups are just dead and will never accept new submissions because the only people who can do it don't log into their account anymore, but they still appear in searches. It changes submitting a piece from like 30 seconds up to taking 5 to 10 minutes, it's just a nuisance.

Compared to tumblr which is basically tag, post, move on with your life, it's retarded. DA could make it far easier but they won't because it's a stagnant garbage fire.

>>2977220
Sorry - didn't see your comment.

>>2982507
>>2982558

These responses are a great example of why Instagram is the best platform currently for artists.

I'd like to add another reason that I think Instagram is the best: The profiles are real people. I'm not talking about bots - but rathjer the nature of people use the platform.

Your followers on Tumblr will not be nearly as permanent & engaged as they are on Instagram. People make profiles, engage for a few months then ditch. Why? Because it is a SOLO platform. Tumblr is best served for interacting with strangers, collecting content you like, and reblogging others peoples stuff. It is not a good platform for following your friends and keeping up with their lives.

Instagram is so much stronger because the masses make their profiles with their real names, so they can follow their real friends. This means they will stick around a lot longer, because they have a reason to.

Personally, my Tumblr account of 3 years and ~9000 followers is almost dead. I post something on Tumblr, and I'm lucky to get 30+ notes. Compared to Instagram, where I have almost 5000 followers, my engagement is always steady and healthy.

Another perk is that many, many art directors have Instagrams. You can follow relevant art directors in your niche, like & comment on their relevant posts (don't like pictures of their family or be creepy), and they may start following you too, if you're not bad. It's a great way to get on their radars.

>>2982821
yeah I fucking love those people on instagram that follow me and then unfollow me 5 minutes afterwards for not following them back

Does tumblr hide posts from Instagram? I used to post my art on tumblr and I'd get a bunch of hearts, but ever since I started using Instagram and posted to tumblr from there I get zero hearts on tumblr, it's like the tags don't translate or something.

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>start using instagram
>at like 7 followers
>some of my posts getting more (you)s than on my tumblr with nearly 1000 followers

good lord

I assume the baseline average is higher but the chance of a piece taking off like crazy (IE getting reblogged by a massive blog) are lower?

>>2983021

Usually when I see crossposts from instagram on my tumblr feed the tags are in the text field and not the tag field, that's probably your issue.

help, am I missing something? I've posted my work on Instagram a couple times with plenty of tags and get almost no likes/followers at all... plus the people who like my work are usually attention whores. don't know what I'm doing wrong...

>>2983336
It's possible that your work is trash.

>>2983346
please, just assuming that my work isn't too bad, what other reasons could there be?

>>2983347
its boring as fuck

post some here we can tell you

G+
but no one uses it

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>>2983375
lol well you definitely have a point...

>>2983336

Make sure you're following other artists, do art trades. I got to my first 200 basically because other people promo'd me. After that it was stagnant for almost a year before I got to 3k in two weeks. Just keep at it is all I can say. A cheap way to get some more is to do an art giveaway for followers only lol

>>2983389
Dude, your proportions need so much work, even a normie could spot your mistakes
Do some studies and use references. Also, don't half-ass your shit.

If you can't draw bodies, just do portraits

>>2983405
thanks, i might try that sometime! i'd mostly given up on insta since it's been rather discouraging so far.

>>2983411
thanks for the crit! i know i definitely need to work on everything... i'm not good myself, but it's just there are so many people who are objectively worse and have huge followings, and i don't know how to make my shit more appealing even without the mistakes.

>>2983389
Definitely not bad enough that you shouldn't be getting ANY followers or likes.

You mentioned 'plenty' of tags - would you mind copypasting the tags you use here? I find it helpful to develop a list of strong hashtags you can copy/paste into the first comment of every post, after a bunch of dots. Like this:

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[block of 30 hashtags]

This way, your massive block of hashtags are hidden from the main feed, so you can use a ton without them being too intrusive.

>>2982818
>Compared to tumblr which is basically tag, post, move on with your life,

But you can do that on DA too. The groups aren't a replacement for tags, they are an added bonus feature of DA.

>>2984050
generally art, illustration, digitalart, sketch, and then any other relevant fandom tags or character names... ok maybe that's not enough? it feels like no one really checks tags though!

thanks;;; i've just never had any luck with social media no matter what i do.

Is 16k followers on pixiv and 7k on Tumblr enough to start a patreon?
I'm not planning to make a living with my art but something like 400-500$/month

>>2984310
That's a prett good number of followers.
Although don't expect more than only a small group of them to actually pay for commissions.
And fewer than that will be returning customers.

>>2976009

Have your own website. Upload once, link everywhere. You look like a pro and it makes it easier to land a job on le industry.

>>2984070

>The groups aren't a replacement for tags, they are an added bonus feature of DA.

If you're doing DA groups are almost a requirement, unless you're already big. You can say its a bonus feature but in my experience, if you don't use it it's hardly worth bothering. I tag equally on DA to Tumblr and get a fraction of the (you)s on the former 90% of the time, though one benefit of DA is that it seems to have a longer burn. Tumblr is a flash in the pan of notes and reblogs and then it seems to go away, whereas popular pieces on DA can seem to get a steady stream of views consistently. Something I drew over a year ago (and submitted to groups) is getting 11 views a day still, whereas other shit never surpasses like 20 views unless you add to group. Yet that same piece that's still getting a steady trickle got nearly as many notes on tumblr in a few days than its current lifetime favorites on DA. Maybe if I submitted to 5-10 groups instead of 1-2 I'd see far better results, but it'd be a huge hassle.

I generally treat DA like tumblr in terms of 'tag it, post it, leave it', I've submitted to groups in the past and sometimes still do with pieces I'm really pleased with, but still. Sometimes that requires applying for a group, waiting to get accepted, submitting a piece (usually meaning you have to browse a stupid, disorganized list of subjects, many of which are full, or else get your submission rejected), then waiting for the piece to be accepted (or not). It's boring, irritating, and the payoff doesn't seem so great as to hold a candle to what you can get from tumblr with a high profile reblog.

The outcome of not using groups much but otherwise doing the same as on tumblr is that I have literally 10 times more tumblr followers than DA followers despite starting my DA before my tumblr and probably spending less time submitting any given post on tumblr than on DA. Hell, this month I've gotten four watchers on DA and nearly 100 on tumblr.