post some digital "art" as magnificent as this

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>>2965669
it's funny when you see bouguereau paintings online, because they kinda suck irl, they look like massive insipid posters

>>2965669
Its just sad at this point, how can drawlets even compete?

>those retardedly small hands
>gigantic torso
he needs more loomis

>>2965669
her expression is derpy af. reminds me of the actress from twilight.

>>2965672
god mode

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>>2965669
>Search him on google because ignorant fuck
>90% of his drawings are women or little girls

relatable

>>2965669


Sug my benis fampai :D :D :D

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>>2965669
>Its a /ic/ tries to shit on one of the most talented genius in the history of art itself

Its like those post-modern kids self-proclaimed atheists thinking their 20 years of mindless living + muh internet is superior to thousand of years of theology and study by brilliant masters who dedicated their lives to enlightenment with God

fucking pathetic but sure fun as fuck to read

>>2965693
>>Thinking that Bouguereau was good or even relevant artist.

After "Orestes pursued by the furies" (one of his only decent paintings and even then its not like he reinvented the wheel here) tanked his career became nothing but softcore porn because it sold. Bouguereau is like the least important French artist ever. He was forgotten immediately after his death because he only painted what sold as opposed to actually having his own standards. He's only famous because people don't strive for the level of technical skill he achieved. That being said no matter how much you polish a turd its still feces.

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>>2965693
Let's be honest, as good Bouguereau is, the op is far from one of his better works

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>>2965700
Sure, why don't you show me what a real painting looks like then?

>>2965672

I don't get why this board sucks RJ's dick so hard.

He's definitely skilled but he seems to be everyone's go-to no matter what the context.

>>2965700

What kind of art pretentious faggots like you "like" ?

>>2965672
>some vidya-like fantasy manchild gay bullshit
why am I not surprised?

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>>2965693
>he fails to recognize irony and sardonic shitposting
>he fails to realize 99% of theology is social engineering
>he fails to see through the disgusting veil of the semitic religions and how a reasonable person would become atheist if that's all they knew
>autism speaks

you're retarded as fuck if you think there's a personal god and an eternal hell, and that all of this is contingent on accepting a desert heeb as le 1 n only path to god

>>2965669
digital art always has that tacky lisa frank feel even when the technique is solid as in >>2965672

>>2965693
>bouguereau
>the most talented genius in the history of art itself
holy fucking shit dude

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>>2965672
>Implying he didn't used layers
>That forced light transition between the face and the rest
>The shit painting overall specially below the demon ( ??? ) hands

>>2965693
>>2965708
Bouguereau doesn't even hold a candle to Mucha

>>2965709
name better digital artists
you literally can't

>>2965669

Bouguerau is one of the shittiest, most pleb artist you could have chosen and has 0 taste. The only worse thing you could have posted would be maybe some Warhol shit.

t. not even digitalfag

>>2965727
he still is better than any digital painter. like, literally

>>2965708
>>2965712

No no. You don't get the point. Its not about what I Iike this is historical information. You can literally read it on his wikipedia page. Of his two most notable works one was a riff on that beat to death Birth of Venus shit that people have been painting since Botticelli (who got it pretty right the first time) and some study of a Bohemian girl who's article is literally one paragraph. Bouguereau was only admired by the academics at the time (people who only knew how to keep painting the same old shit the same old way. The reason why they had an entire salon of venuses).

>>2965706
At least when he was doing this shit he wasnt trying to sell porn. Have you ever looked at "Three Nymphs and a Satyr" you dont need to know anything about art to know that its just a sex piece. There is nothing in the compposition that references a higher meaning. Its just that you were only allowed to sell porn if you disguised it as a Mythological or Historical painting.

>>2965729

Disagree, as much as I hate digitalfaggotry, lots of guys at least have some sound ideas/concepts and Bouguerau doesn't have that.

And OP could have made the thread properly, he could have used some pre-raphaelite or symbolism.

>>2965712

If you like realist paintings you could try Singer Sargent (although Sargent paints in a less finished style). Madame X doesn't hold much in the way of the pictorial meaning but the scandal and the subsequent discussion about the roles of figures in art was much more substantive and beneficial for art history than any of the circle jerks going around in Bouguereau's camp.

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>>2965730
>Three Nymphs and a Satyr
>sex piece
I don't see what you mean

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>>2965716
>Life and existence all happened because some asteroid out a nowhere collided on earth on some explosions and shit and then thousand of years later between explosions, glacial era and volcanic eruptions life developed to the point where everything works in the most balanced way by nature and we became sentient creatures capable of producing art and changing the universe around us

Atheists rather believe in some astronomic possibility that every atom of their body is nothing more than hitting the jackpot on lottery of existence than accepting that there must be a higher being which transcends time, space and mater who created him

Read the bible at least, read some books, spend a year studying God, then you talk me again, I was a atheist once but then I studied

You probably are some boy who grew up on a catholic family and after life frustrated you because it fucking happens with everybody, you put the blame on God and became another salty ignorant cunt whos existence contributes in nothing to the universe

>>2965737
That is unbelievably tasteless. They couldnt have picked like any other of his paintings. A Holbein? An Ingres would have suited their needs just fine but Christ.

Bouguereau is Sylvester Stalone's favorite painter. Is that not a red flag for people?

>>2965669
>stupid looking face
>hair and skin is completely dry even though she is in water
>hands grabbing invisible rock behind her
>little to no seafoam with the amount of waves going on

low quality troll

>>2965737
Yooo theyre having their exhibition at the Salmagundi Club, totally gonna check it out. I was there 2 weeks ago for the annual watercolor competition. Living in NY rules.

>>2965722

What do you mean better?

>>2965738
If you believe in the words of the bible, torah, quran or any other religious text then I think that's pretty stupid. These books are all littered with mistakes, fear mongering and retarded philosophy. However there are nuggets of gold in all of them, so obviously there is knowledge to be gained from studying them. I don't understand why people on here have such a hard on for the bible though, I think maybe it's the result of a cultural backlash against society. The older generations revolted by abandoning religion but now since it's becoming more and more accepted the newer generation is embracing religion to revolt in their own way.

Anyway, you can believe in a higher power or "god" without ascribing to any individual religion. If you believe everything that's written in any religious text or identify with any one religion then you're retarded.

>>2965738
Nice projection you dumb faggot, I didn't grow up catholic and I'm not an atheist. I've read the bible and most of the works of the major Christian theologians, and no matter how much depth these people possessed personally, you can never get Christian doctrine itself around the fact that unification with the supreme being of the universe is obviously not contingent on a particular place and time in history without abandoning Christianity itself.

Also your argument for anthropocentrism sucks ass
>be the entirety of matter
>spread out across the universe in an immense variety of form
>some of this variety produces mind and intellect allowing for a material expression of the atmanic core of perception
>it's somehow a jackpot that this observing piece of matter perceives itself and precisely the atoms its composed of

>>2965732
My favorite realistic painter is Gerome, second Tedema, and then Parrish. I like Bouguereau a lot, like Waterhouse and the rest, but he did get kind of tacky towards the end.

But you have to give him props for technique. I always spend time in front of Satyr and Nymphs in the Metropolitan in NY, the colors are mind boggling and that painting alone is a masterwork of flesh rendering and lighting. You have to see it close up to appreciate it. I've spent hours in front of that painting, and will spend more in the future.

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contributing more with some solid digital art off of this very website

>>2965752
>The older generations revolted by abandoning religion but now since it's becoming more and more accepted the newer generation is embracing religion to revolt in their own way.

this. neo-trads are nothing more than the newest incarnation of FUCK YOU DAD

>>2965730
Pull the stick out of your ass, you pretentious faggot.

Crap, Satyr and Nymphs is back in Williamsburg, it was on loan to the Met. I'll have to make a pilgrimage, the museum where it is has some great paintings.

>>2965766
I spend every wednesday at the met and Idk the Bouguereaus are good but I dont really appreciate feats of technical skill so much. (I am not trying to downplay his skill as artist I understand and really do appreciate how truly masterful he was in the exectution of his paintings)

I'd much rather look at the works of Ingres who was just as good if not a better draftsman and think about how devastatingly impactful his work would be on later artists. Its not that Bouguereau was a bad painter its just that he didn't do much to push art out of the realm of being a craft which I believe should be the goal of any fine artist.
Ingres took chances (like giving La Odelisque five extra vertabrae) while still retaining not only a high level of finish and a very apparent mastery of his work. More importantly the stuff he submitted to the salon (this is to differentiate commissioned works like portraits and what not which we can both agree are a necessary part of putting food on the table for an artist in this time) was meant to lead others by example while Bouguereau's work feels like he was wasting his skills on trying to collect shekels.

>>2965773
Phew. You showed me with your well thought out and insightful discussion of art history.

>>2965766
Actually went today and stumbled upon El Grecos "Christ carrying the Cross" and almost shit myself. Then saw that they had St Jerome right next to it and let go of my bowels. Upon seeing the Rembrandt in the same room I wondered to myself if I was actually dead. Theres also that crazy Ingres in the next room like wtf how much money did Robert Lehmen have. (spoiler a shit ton)

>>2965752
>Accepting religion is the hipster way to revolt to your parents

Atheists rather believe in this, than simply accepting the existence of a higher being

They literally believe all religions, Christianity included, are nothing more than social engineering

wonderful

>>2965669
This art is, in fact, digital.
The analog original isn't, but since this is being reproduced digitally and you consider it good, it means digital art is therefore good.

>>2965669
you fucking baiting jackass. you do realize that digital art is just a medium? that's literally it.

>>2965832
Wtf I love digital now

>>2965669
Look at her hands. Fine artists are so terrible at drawing anything that isn't directly in front of them that he subconsciously even copied the corners of the fucking desk the model was leaning on.

>>2965669
The artist forgot to put sand on the bottom of her feet

>>2965832

>Bouguereau is digital art
>because you're looking at it throu' a phone
>and phones are digital
>even performance art is digital
>Rothko is digital
>Beethoven is also electronic music :^)
>Beethoven is also house music when you're inside a house
>Or trap if you have a ding-a-ling and put panties on
>And post-rock is actually reggae because anyone who listens to post-rock is also a stoner
>and since it was posted on an art community, it means that bouguereau is also communal art
>Anything posted in this board is Communist art
>/ic/ confirmed communist board
>every board on 4chan is
>since every website has 4chan content on it, every website is communist
>the whole internet is communist
>internet is available in most of the civilized world
>communism conquered the world
>finally

YES WE DID IT COMRADE, WE FINALLY DESTROYED WESTERN IMPERIALISTIC CAPITALISM

>>2965669
She can not have gotten that close to the water without getting wet.

She is as dry as a bone.

wtf I hate Bougie now

>>2966065
But you have to pay for internets.

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>>2965722
Ruan is a great digital artist but painting as a medium has so much to offer that isn't utilized well in his work. Where is a statement or an inch of personality in a meticulously rendered animu face?
A good artist should be able to make a few rough, bold strokes and get his idea across, not an hour of rendering on seven different layers. It's the type of resolve you get when you have a lot of different influences on your growth as an artist.
At least that's what I think.

>>2966099
and the samsung and apple products. >>2966065

>>2966104
this just looks unfinished tho...

and again im pretty sure craig mullins is just game design or visual design artist. Not a artist like Ruan Jia.

>>2966104
there's a lot more to ruan jias painting than just rendering though, but then again he works on GIANT resolutions and you can't appreciate his insane brushwork without looking at his pictures in full resolution

Did they even use greenscreens back then??

>>2966053
hahaha holy shit
he didn't even justify it with making her grip some rock formations or something

>>2966136
His brushwork isn't meant to be appreciated in full resolution. He paints that way because it looks good when downsized, not because it looks good in full res. A lot of his brushwork is very scribbly and messy and it only starts coming together when resized.

>>2966104
Ruan Jia is an excellent painter and draftsman, but his subject matter is the same generic wow fantasy shit

this particular painting is a nice break from his usual stuff

>>2966152
This particular Ruanjia painting called "craig_mullins"?

>>2965700
And yet your art or anyone else's on this board will never be as good.

Also, I like Bouguereau, as do many others. Art is subjective, technical skill is not.

>>2965716
The most brilliant minds of the Middle Ages were devout Christians, many theologians were basically philosophers. To disregard all of them because of their belief in God is both retarded and childish.

>>2965669
Digital art isn't Real Art

/Thread

>>2966132
>not an artist like Ruan Jia
I think it's actually the opposite. Both are concept artists and illustrators, but Mullins' work has much more narrative and therefore isn't bound to the project they were made for.
You could hang them in a gallery and people would still come.

>>2966136
Well that just proves my criticism, really.
Good brushwork isn't about putting a ton of detail where people don't even notice it, it's about being deliberate and economical with your decision-making.

Look at Rembrandt's or Sargent's paintings, they look perfect from distance, but up close you can see how rough the individual strokes are. It's like a little joke only people who are into painting can appreciate, it reminds you of the process behind it and how it's just an illusion.

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>>2965700
Huh..

>>2965693
>projecting so hard

>>2966152
>but his subject matter is the same generic
And what about "subject matter" of Old Masters lmao? Portraits of rich famous/poor ugly people, church commissions and biblical fanart? Or maybe epic BALLERINAS and nude lolis?

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>>2966065
this

>>2966239
>Comparing biblical stuff which survived through the ages with manchild bullshit which will die in less than 100years

brainlets

>>2965832
>>2966065
>paint something with tablet
>print it
>now have digital art made traditional

WOAH....

>>2965832

>ACKSHUALLY

thanks captain pedantic, got any more technically correct statements that are obviously not what everyone means?

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>>2966450

>I know kung fu

>>2966447
>survived through the ages
Because it's most famous fantasy book. It's same manchild bullshit.

>>2966191
>The most brilliant minds of the Middle Ages were devout Christians
definitely false, Europe was not close to hegemony at this point

>To disregard all of them because of their belief in God
To not have any reading comprehension is both retarded and childish

you still haven't told me how it makes sense that the only path to God would be through one person in an arbitrary place at an arbitrary time, but keep flinging shit. I'm sure your sanctimony is backed up by boundless philosophical depth

>>2968026
awful

>>2965672
lmao

>>2965796
I'm so jelly of firstworlders

When I travelled to hueland just seeing one of Monet's bridges and that one with the girls on a boat made me shit myself. Saw a Bouguereau and a Rembrandt, also some Rodins at Argentina, and felt like a little boy getting his new game boy with pokemon red.

If there's a reason I want to live off from this it's to travel and see your galleries.

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>>2965730
Wikipedia information is hardly what was relevant in this own time. What's known now isn't necessarily why he was admired. That goes for almost all artists. When people talk about artists in documentaries, lectures, and especially a short wikipedia article, they will mention a few examples to help them support their point.

Most information on artists are too inaccurate or limited to say whatever you read on wikipedia is the scope of historical information on Bouguereau.

Nothing inherently wrong with doing something that has been done before. Titian painted a Venus in the sea, and so did the ancients.

>>2968077
The funny thing is, this guy is closer to the skill level of the old masters than you will ever be to his skill level.

>>2965732
Sargent is even a whole lot less an intellectual than Bouguereau and a lot more empty.

>>2968077
What is wrong with it?

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why does this woman look like that one uncomfortable stock photo guy.

>>2968501
You underestimate how skillful the old masters were

Just thinking about the shitty equipment, light, pigments they had, the limited knowledge they had wouildn't let you have such an opinion

>>2965669
kek. is bouguereau considered an "old master" by kids these days?

also, there's literally no difference between digital and physical media when you're viewing it as pixels on a screen.

>>2965669
is this bait?
that painting is awful
legit glorified figure drawing. This is a model laying on a stand in front of a painter, not a woman at the beach...

>>2968501
salty af
i'm sorry one of your fave meme artists produces shitty, disposable work

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>>2965669

>bitch doesn't look like she's been touched by one drop of water
>especially her hair, look at it
>the wave doesn't look right for that portion of the beach at all
>magnificent

>>2965714
>some random ass woman posing on a beach naked for no reason
why am I not surprised?

>>2965669

>>2968930

>the mental illness required to come up with that

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>>2968930
this should be on the sticky instead of the pipe man

>>2968503
notice how my comment makes no reference to Sargent's inherent value as a person or painter only to the value of one of his paintings ability to bring about a sort of event or topic of discussion which is the only thing that matters.

ART ONLY HAS VALUE IN CONTEXT.

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>>2965738
>"numbers are big and scary so god be real"
Tell me, faggot, why is God any more likely than big numbers?
I mean, fucking hell, the fact that you've "studied philosophy" and not come out a proper human being, solipsistic at the least, more than likely into secular Buddhism on some level, is a personal failure let alone being a christfag.

>>2968930
didn't even know I had this fetish.

>>2965669
It looks as if she is sitting in front of a wallpaper.

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>>2965719
>Bouguereau doesn't even hold a candle to Mucha
>Not studying both

Its like you guys dont want to be like your uncle Kyle or something

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>>2965669
>random naked woman on a beach

>>2965672
>vidya trash

>>2965768
>political memes

>>2966104
>generic gladiator with generic stance in a generic roman theme

>>2968026
>random roman fuccboi getting raped by supernatural trannies

>>2968930
>....

>>2972064
>banal weebshit

It's really sad to see modern and contemporary artists wasting their skill and talent on really superficial themes, themes that are basically mockery. They have no faith and love in anything, they're unwilling to sacrifice themselves for greater good. For them, art is nothing but a cheap satire no more valuable than Louis CK's latest stand up comedy about interracial relationship.

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>They have no faith and love in anything, they're unwilling to sacrifice themselves for greater good.

Spooky af, m8.

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>>2972078
Stirnerfags are incapable of creating valuable art because they're dead inside.

>>2966858
Using the words "desert heeb" already highlight your childishness, as does your repeating my point (like schoolchildren going "no you stink!", very mature of you).

I simply stated that the greatest minds of the Middle Ages (obviously talking about Europe, but my point still stands) were devout Christians, and Muslims if you want to include a large part of the Mediterranean world.

To disregard that fact because of your narrow-minded 21st century view is certainly childish.

>>2969100
So Sargent's canvas has value because it relates to some trivial materialist context? Seems completely in line with the bulk of Sargent's works, actually. Little snippets of the life of socialites.

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>>2965669
I like Shal.E a lot, it's just the style man.

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>>2972338
the fuck is wrong with her eyes

she has the glassed over eyes of a dead fish at shoprite

>>2966132
That's finished for me, some things are better left this way.

>>2965669
It's because digital art is too perfect, what makes paintings on canvas or paper, board etc so good is the imperfections, every tiny unintended stroke or line that happens to be there adds character and mirrors more what we see irl. Irl we see so much information at once and seeing digital art, everything is too controlled. There are not enough little odd things , unpredictable variations. Digital art is best for graphic design type work or 2d animation. This is also why 3d tends to look crappier, it tries to be realistic in a medium that is too perfect, when our world is a mess really full of perfections and things out of place.

>>2972464
>digital art, everything is too controlled
Only as controlled as the artist wants it to be. Nothing stopping them from leaving in imperfections or even adding in imperfections in the finishing stage.

What you're criticizing is the inability of artists to accept imperfections in their work because the medium allows them to eliminate it all. Where as a traditional medium it equates to lost money or having to start over which is often times not an option.

>>2968930
hahahahahahaah

>>2965768
That's not digital art, it's either oilpaint or airbrush.

>>2972472
Not really. Digital art has problem where rounded strokes have a doughy look and sharper ones look *too* sharp. Things have to be perfect or very close to look right. Traditional art as the benefit of having texture, whether by the medium, surface, or both which allows for more flexibility with imperfections

>>2965669
why do we like Booger-oo but hate the rest of academists again?

>>2966104
Everything doesn't have to have meaning. At its most abstract the painting is just colored smears of goo made up and aranged to give the illusion of form and depth. Any meaning given to it is one that is placed onto it ,not to say that a painting can have no meaning or that its meaning can not be of any value, but it would be up to those who chose to give said art meaning. If ruan jia chooses to have his art be nothing more that a "meaningless picture" so be it.If you don't like his art make your own instead and provide something of value instead of whining all day like a bitter child you cunt. (ps, post your work)

>>2968026
This is confusing my sexuality a bit, but I really like it nonetheless.

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>>2972658
Stop shilling your own shit, this is a thread for good artists.

>>2972658

Those legs are still shit brah, you didnt do anything with the pointers people gave you.

>>2968877
Let's see your work, if it's so bad. It's not one of his best, but it shows a level of technique in oil that few reach.

And, most if not all of the masters posed artists in the studio as reference for paintings. Some worked on site, like Gerome, but Alma Tadema was painting ancient Rome in a studio in London. It would be literally impossible to pose a model for this, without photography.

But what really counts - who's work is hanging in museums? Yours, or his?

>>2972694
>who's work is hanging in museums
You say that like that shit actually matters or puts food on the table. So many of the masters and even more modern masters don't make insane profit from their work. I would rather make 4-10k a month drawing fetish porn that never gets into a museum than be struggling to survive so that some rando millionaire can later make tons of money off my work after I am long gone.

>>2972820
>I would rather make 4-10k a month drawing fetish porn
that's so common and easy to achieve, too!

>>2972820
Ah, another fake metric, to avoid my point. Whatever, kid - you keep hating art, I'm sure it will take you far. If money is all you care about, why are you here? Art, the kind you're doing, doesn't care about technique, after all.

Besides, it's always fun to laugh at kids who are so arrogant, they think they're better than a master artist. Always funny!

>>2972820
mental health is important. I hope you get the help you need soon.

>>2972869
Easier to achieve than making money with fine art. Fine art is a fucking dead end with almost no career opportunities and a very good chance all the money being made will happen after you die.

>>2972895
I wasn't the person you were talking to jackass. I didn't say I was better than a master or that porn artists are better than masters. I said being in a museum is not a metric worth pursuing. Do what makes you happy and what makes you money. Believe it or not but people who are dirt poor aren't happy.

>>2972944
I actually care about my mental health enough to pursue art that makes money instead of making me want to kill myself. The alternative is to pursue fine art worthy of a museum while working at a burger joint. I'd rather be drawing all day everyday to produce things that give me some free time on the side to pursue my real passions.

>>2973057
That's like saying 'I would rather play in college basketball than the NFL'

Pointless

>>2972263
I mean thats all important art though.

>>2966151
his brushwork only looks good when resized because while it looks messy and scribbly it's still very deliberate and controlled
>>2966202
>Well that just proves my criticism, really.
Not really
>Good brushwork isn't about putting a ton of detail where people don't even notice it, it's about being deliberate and economical with your decision-making.
that's exactly what ruan is doing though, the detail is carefully selected to fit the composition, and the rendering isn't actually rendering, it's all solid brushwork, the only difference here is that ruans painting are massive

>Look at Rembrandt's or Sargent's paintings, they look perfect from distance, but up close you can see how rough the individual strokes are. It's like a little joke only people who are into painting can appreciate, it reminds you of the process behind it and how it's just an illusion.
yes, that's exactly how ruans painting work too, again they're just way bigger, if they were traditional they would simply be the same thing except really massive

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>>2965669
I still prefer OP's but this one is definitely painting tier

>>2973074
I'm sure Sakimi is crying herself to sleep every night because she isn't in a museum and only making a measly 700k on Patreon. I'm sure semi-popular porn artists are just SO disappoiinted in their lives only making 4-8k a month.

You're example is shit. College players don't make money, NFL does. In your example you seem to imply museum = NFL but it's all the fame with none of the money until you fucking die. Starting to think you might just be some rich guy mad artists don't want to pursue paths that make YOU money.

>>2973575
I don't get how Guts didn't want to tap dat.

>>2973649
ikr!

>>2972658
Why is it so good and so bad at the same time?

>>2965740
>That is unbelievably tasteless. They couldnt have picked like any other of his paintings

Untrue. The guy who is the ceo saw that painting as the first work from Boug and fell in love with him immediately. You'd know this if you'd read his writings.

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>not posting this