DRAW THREAD

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A more advanced version of a piece posted in the last thread.

I'm feeling like the composition isn't working well. Any idea how to fix that blandness?

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some practice for the night. still working on it.

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>>2930801
and fussing around with this too.

>>2930729
Maybe try upping the contrast between the lights and darks? That's usually a free way to try and make it more dynamic.

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did a self portrait. trying to parse what my next step is. I think this level of exactness isn't really doing it for me. I want to work looser, and do measurements dynamically, as opposed to freehanding it or measuring and doing a drawing on top of the measurements. I'd rather do a good drawing everytime than a great drawing half the time.

>>2930727
Is the IRC server of any use? I dropped by the channel, but it was quiet.

>>2930924
>level of exactness
brian, buddy, we both know accuracy has never been in your wheelhouse.

that being said this drawing is lacking your usual flair.

>>2930924

why do you exist still?

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More thumbnails... Gonna piecemeal this comp together in ps beforr I draw it out.

Can't decide if its gonna be ink or charcoal.

>>2930803

I really like the lighting in this but something about the composition feels weird.

Also, why is this thread so dead compared to the beginner one?

>>2930729
>>2930869
Do you ever get that feeling of Deja Vu?

>>2930846

Gross

>>2930727
Thanks for using my wip OP

>>2930951
Nice forms, looks meaty

>>2930989
What's gross about it? Are you racist or sexist?

>>2930846
this would be acceptable painted on the lesser-seen wall of an asian cultural center in the LA area.

I really want to like your stuff, park. you seem like a great guy who works hard. but your paintings are either so far lver my head that they wrap around below my feet, or they are just plain bad. either way, consistently inaccessible imho.

>>2930951
Don't snakes usually have scales?

>>2931081
they also have eyes. im gonna keep them fleshy in the final, cause scales be tedious and theyre not actually snakes.

>>2930727
Why don't you link the previous thread tho?

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Birds for a animation project that I'm working on

>>2931182
Sorry I forgot. I just pasted the last thread's coment and It wasn't there either.

Here it is if you want it:
>>2916650

You're welcome.

>>2930980
What do you mean?

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a lil study from last night

>>2931212
very good, i would perhaps make sure you are treating the the darkest mid-tones correctly, right now they're very photographic, which has it's charm, but surely in a study you're studying the girl and not a photo, non?

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Still working on this, I finally want to get done with the house and pour all over the gardens and foliage

>>2931070

Neither, i'm artist and so i hate bad art.

>>2930846
still going eh?
i like this a lot more than the stuff you were doing a few years ago. it really is something, sorry i can't give you any solid criticism, i can only see things i like about it really. perhaps maybe it's a bit too reminiscent of les demoiselles d’avignon, but even there i think that's pretty much a positive thing.

>>2931277
Thank you so much! You understand what a good painting is. I am hugely influenced by Picasso's paintings.

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>>2930727
any feedback design wise?

>>2931212
I like your abstraction.
Blog?

Why do legs exist

>>2931240
this image is so bad.

i'm so sorry you wasted all that time detailing when there is no perspective at all.

perspective is the most important fundamental.

>>2931283
his arm is too high, study anatomy

>>2931384
>>2931387
Go back to the beginner thread.

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first layer of some rocks by the sea, it's a location I've done before

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>>2931402
This, which is from last year, I think I've improved with tone, and just applying paint, but I find it challenging to get the colours I want.

Finding a balance between the colour that you're seeing and choosing the colour that would make it more interesting is difficult.

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>>2931400
oh look, another faggot who thinks his shitty opinion counts more than a professional artist

>>2931384
it looks fine. god.

>>2931414
>>2931400

you are a cunt. stay bad.

>>2931458
nut up or shut up and post your work beetch

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>>2931240
Feels a little too contrasty and the colours a bit muddy.

>>2931387
>his arm is too high, study anatomy
say whaaaaat

>>2931384
I know it is wonky at someplaces but I'll fix that later

>>2931533
Thanks for the paintover. A lot of these areas were still from the inital color sketch, that's why they're not spot on. I will get to these one at a time.
I see what you mean with contrasting, I really wanted to separate fore- and background. There are trees supposed behind the camera that cast shadows on the foreground parts and bit of the gardens, but maybe I went a bit overboard.
We'll see

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Do you guys think I should finish this? is it worth it?
I've been dragging it for weeks now.
is it too confusing?

imma try and give some crits on here after dinner

>>2931387
????

>>2931289
its barcode

>>2931648
It's could work, but needs better values to read clearly. Maybe look at some movie posters and things and see how they arrange it so even the thumbnail reads well.

>>2931658
rofl he already copied Charizard

>>2931658
I agree,but I think I'm in too deep to fix all that.rather start fresh.appreciate it man
>>2931661
and also this.not happy at all.Believe it or not it "happened",wasn't meant to look like charizard obviously lol

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>>2931212
>>2931663
fuck off with the studies.

>>2931283
>think!
would you hold your pipe with your right hand and the wand with your left hand?
you better start doing research and get an inspiration board going.
in what year could this character have lived in?
where? the powers he possesses?

>>2930729
the "empty" space underneath the table is too great.
you could easily crop this.
Make the candle light harder so that the characters face pops out.
push the old dude more towards the right(middle of the window.)

>>2931719
You could stand to do a few studies there friend.

>>2931196
wow this is really cool.

that being said aside from mine, most of this thread is COMPLETE SHIT

I have about 1 year left and I will be coming back here to do nothing but make you faggots jealous.

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Beginnings of a self portrait

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>>2931781
and a quick 2 hour portrait of a model

>>2931783
>2 hour
>quick

>>2931783
Bootiful shading. But 2 hours isn't quick anon

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>>2930729
I Keep working on it slowly

>>2931719
Thank you, I just moved the dude a bit to the left, but I removed the candle, It was confusing
and maybe I turn off the other 2 to avoid many light sources
Also, What's wrong with doing studies?

>>2931781
This is cool, you should leave it like that

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sketch from the other day

>>2931786
>>2931801
2 hours is pretty quick. Especially when art test require you to do a good job in about that time for busts and such.

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Tried to go for tribalistic but somewhat mixed with modern/futuristic designs. Writing it now it does seem kinda weird, but it sounded better in my head with a scenario and all I guess. bottom one was kinda random, right is geometry centric. And hopefully you can guess what the left one represents.

>>2931981
looks good man, but the lighting on the ass and lower back seems inconsistent with the lighting on the legs. Either make it a more clear spotlight, or light the legs lit as well.

>>2931786
>>2931801
I guess more realistically it was about an hour and 20 minutes what with model breaks and stuff.
It feels quick to me though- in one portrait class I'm in, we draw for 30 minutes, break for 10, and draw for 30 again for 6 hours, and the poses last 3 different class sessions.

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>>2931212
Love this, hot lips
>>2931384
Are you stupid or just ignorant?>>2931408
I like your old one much better, kinetically interesting. Theyre both good tho.
>>2931783
I think that if you work faster you will find that you also work better. Also increase that value range! You clearly have an aptitude.
>>2932046
Fuuuuuuuuuck these are great. Always love your work man.

Gonna ink this tomorrow. Would love crit in the meantime.

>>2932521
You like >>2931408

The best?

Funny, a lot of people say they liked that one, I sold it. Feels a bit flat to me but I guess strong colours and a sense of force goes a long way.

>>2932521
this is stupid

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Been good weather for plein, thought I'd share some WIPs

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>>2932761

>>2932761
>>2932763
you aren't handling the paint well. it all looks like it's running together. maybe don't thin it down so much?

>>2932767
It's just the first layer so I drown my brush in turpentine, not point in laying the paint on fat early anyway

>>2932761
>>2932763
these look cool in an abstract-ish way. I'm curious to see how you'll be tightening them up!

>>2932772
spoopy

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some of anatomy...

>>2932772
nice, reminds me of the snake in Secret of Kells

I think the character is trash but that's just stylistic preference

>>2932858
thanks dude! I was actually struggling a lot to make the character fit into the scene/not look like trash, do you have any tips?

>>2932682
Lol thanks for your contribution

>>2932772
fix your perspective. it's broken as fuck

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I'm trying to get into digital and have been looking at a couple of ctrl paint videos.
Any opinions about the sketch before I try my hand at rendering?

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le wip

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is the eye far enough to the right compared to the nostril?I have the feeling its too far to the elft or maybe not big enough?

>>2931783
thats a 10 min sketch, dont lie anon

>>2931783
>2 hours

jesus anon don't go too fast now or we will never be able to catch up

>>2932920
Open it and the reference in photoshop and lay them above each other at ~50% opacity.

>>2932948
them?

>>2932955
It looks like you've used a image as reference. So if you have, take it and open it in photoshop (or gimp). Then open the drawing in the program as another layer and set it at a lower opacity so that you can see the other image through it. Makes it very easy to see where you fucked up

>>2932920
Cant tell. I think youve wisely concealed them both with shadow so as not to necessitate such a high degree of precision in your symmetry.

Also I commend you on doing portraits of AIDS patients. very charitable.

>>2932975
this is obviously a life drawing. this guy has posted like five times in this thread. pay attention anon

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Roast my egg.

>>2932907
Nah, it looks pretty great.

>>2932911
Very messy. Use big brushes first to carve out the major planes, then get into details and texture. Look at Sargent's or Layendecker's paintings.
Make sure you can draw well, that's the foundation.

>>2932989
I'd rather fry it
(also I don't think the cast shadow would be that saturated, even on a white surface)

>>2932995
Will fix it, thanks senpai.

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>>2932907
Progress update before going to bed.

I am really new to this and are a bit scared that I might be going at it all wrong. So if there are any obvious newbie mistakes that I should be aware of, please scream at me before I fuck it up completely tomorrow.

>>2932977
i didnt but it is a life drawing.
>>2932976
lol
its supposed to be myself.
still the position of that eye occupies me.

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sketch
sorry for quality, bad light

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Pieced this together for a couple of different photo refs. Decided not to copy one 1:1 this time.

General feedback welcome.
I had trouble with the eyes, still dont like em. Any tipps?

>>2933217
face looks pretty good but the neck is massively wide and the shirt and shoulders completely flat

>>2933217
i agree with>>2933224
The face is lovely but the neck/shoulders feel very wrong.

>>2933132
what did you learn? how will you apply this knowledge to a bigger project?

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Can anyone at artcenter confirm if this is the kind of autistic shit it takes to get good?

Tried copying some shit from the fzd demos. I don't think feng is actually making sure everything is coplanar. But then again he's probably practiced this too.

>>2931648
comp is confusing as hell, the foreground and far background have the exact same value range/color scheme so there is no illusion of distance. The perspective on the city is all over the place.

the individual elements (save the city) are all well done, but they dont fit together in a cohesive way. get rid of that bird.

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>>2932521
Thanks. Your sketch looks pretty dope too, if inked well this thing could look pretty damn good. One thing I didn't really get was the head though. is it a snake with its mouth open or something ?

>>2933351
the orange one is now my wifhusbando

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This is taking a long time. Why did I think ballpoint was a good idea? Hopefully it will turn out to be worth it.

>>2933351
Its supposed to be a surreal sort of skull suggestive of a mushroom cloud, with a crown of swords and spears. Its a class assignment and I'm trying to shove as much symbolism in it as I can

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I'm trying to paint a fan art of Bird Person and Squanchy. I know I can nail the details and shit but I tend to lose sight of the overall composition and value structure. Any tips or tricks? Going for a generic movie poster illustration vibe. I've kept the colors to a minimum because that's another thing I tend to fuck up. I'll bring up the saturation on parts I want to focus on later and make a really strong rim lighty-thingy-colorwashy-shit later on...

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>>2933392

Oh and yes, I'm using a 3D-base as it gets asked some times when I post something up here... Here's my sketch and 3D block in...

>>2933395
Why is your block in so much better?

>>2933399

I dunno man. That's why I'm here... You tell me.

>>2933402
I think that you over refined too early.

Things that are better in your first comp: value ranges, specifically in the bear and wings and the fog around the bottom.

The bear is 10x more ferocious looking, its kinda cartoony in your current stage.

The arms looked better framing bird person.

Just my opinion.

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>>2933408

Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond man! Are you talking about my messy sketch or my shitty 3d block-in though?

I was going to try and bring my final image closer to my initial sketch in the end. I might even bring squanchy's (the bear thingy) hand back down so it hugs one of bird persons wings or something. I don't like tangents but I also thought it kind of worked for the composition. I haven't really went into designing squanchy's "ferocity" yet. Just referencing some hairless cats and bodybuilders. He's going to be super hairy, drooly and ferocious in the end. I promise...

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Can I get some tips on drawing beards? They're hard as fuck.

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>>2933379
Trucking. Input welcome!

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it turned out flat as fuck

>>2933487

I like his expression and you've got the shapes real nice. Just look at some beards and draw from that! Don't go crazy with detail though as it might rape your whole piece. Just have some strands going out from the silhouette and imply some hairs on his face. U good.

>>2933512

I like your style. Just continue. Maybe take a proper scan of your piece so we can anons can give a proper crit...

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Jungle study

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>>2933392
For detailed areas, you should focus putting the details mostly in the lit areas.
It is too easy to lose the shadows when you start fiddling around in that area.

I tried painting over to demonstrate how you could approach it. I think it looks better when you follow the 3D model for the shading.

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>>2933528
fucked. resize

>>2933530

Thanks man! I get your point. I'm going to try and keep the shadow areas clear in my final render.

I usually end up wasting time on shadow areas so I'll definitely look at your overpaint. .. Gonna try and keep that shit fucking painterly and dark etc.

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>>2933537
KEK

>>2933538

What?


I'm >>2933537 Btw...

>>2933531

Oh and also. I'd like to have some kiddy sitting on the lawn there to add interest. Just have some kid in a white costume sitting on the lawn and you'll get all my internets and what ever you kids like nowadays...

>>2933487
saved

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>>2933531
>>2933546

Something like this would just add to your scene. Doesn't need to be a fucking gay bunny or anything. Just something of interest or something. You get me? I like your little tree anyways. Don't know what you're using it for though...

>>2933568
Gotchu senpai.

>>2933224
>>2933263
Thank you! Looking at it a day later, the eyes seem pretty fine now, too.

Will the give the neck some love and onto the next one.

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rough idea

>>2933751
>it's
>I'm
A-Arong is an atrocious name.

>>2933530
>>2933528
>>2933421
>>2933487
>>2933512
>>2933351
>>2933217
>>2933132
>>2932911
>>2932920
>>2932800

all shit


>>2933111

keep it up you're gonna get gud

>>2932761
>>2932763

luv ur stuff

>>2933959
Get out of here.
Your taste is shit and you don't seem to have anything of value to say.

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I guess I'll come back to this later when I'm more skilled.

>>2933547
>>2933521
thanks anons

>>2933111
I think you need to use more hard edges when you're rendering. Your base sketch was really neat, but your overuse of smooth brushes are making some of the forms look blobby, so you might want to be more careful about your brushstrokes as well. Also, there's going to be a lot of reflected light from each of the surfaces so keep that in mind especially for the hips and shoulder joints.

>>2933995

ahh thats alright. i can have an opinion and you don't have to like it either.

also my taste is not shit it's actually pretty damn good. i know right form wrong unlike a lot of the shit hawks here.

(you)

>>2934110
Not that guy, but when you say you love someone's work who is clearly very bad (no offense) then we have a fairly objective way to judge your taste.

>>2934116


and you know good from bad dick breath?

i bet you do faggot

>>2933959
Honestly I am happy to be grouped with those other drawings. Your taste is arbitrary crap.

>>2934116
I have a theory that you can tell when somebody starts shitposting when they pick posts ambiguously that include bad and decent drawings and call them shit, and then do the same when they praise other things. It's how tripfags are so effective at riling up threads. I would have fallen for the same guy too if he didn't take so long to reply to the other guy who called him out.

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I think the skull doesn't fit much in the rest of the image, but anyway, I don't want to keep working on this.

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clothes studies

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>>2934110
Those paintings only had a couple hours spent on them, so they're just compositional maps for tone and colour more than anything, there's very little rendering as of yet.

But if you think they're really bad then say why exactly, that is the point of these threads.

>>2934229
was for
>>2934116

>>2934228
Blog? These are beautiful

>>2934228
good


>>2934198

this is shit

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>>2934087
I just saw your post so I'll post where I am at the moment.
I've continued to overuse smooth brushes and it all just feels "off", I suppose. I was thinking about just finishing all the basic shapes (which pretty much is where I am) and then try and give it a bit more character.
Not that I really know how, though. I'm pretty much just "fake it 'til you make it" right now, and I feel that it will blow up in my face.

And the casting shadow is a placeholder so I can get a sense of where the ground is and the direction of the main light source. I'm going to redo it from scratch later.

>>2934116
;_;

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>>2930727

>>2934279
good.

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>>2934279
Looks really nice. But that's a very flat nose, and the right foot is too high compared to the left and it looks mirrored.

>>2933959
>>2934267
>>2934295
(you)

>>2934233
yaow12.tumblr.com

>>2934300
lmao....

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>>2930727
Field museum sketches
1 of 2

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>>2934528
2 of 2

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>>2930727
stoody

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another procrastination study :p

>>2934615
this is really good except for those 2 shadows, those edges are too hard

>>2934644
The nose looks like it's pointing at the viewer directly but she's obviously looking to the side slightly. The chin also looks misaligned (a bit too far to the right)

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>pls help

>>2934198
Looks pretty cool
You seem to be getting the general idea with rendering the simpler forms. The head looks great too.

Maybe next time spend a little more time planning, but it seems like you know where you screwed up for the most part.

>>2934855
study crab. study machine, combine. also study perspective.

>>2934889
Thank you, where do you think my perspective needs to be improved? I was making up the forms as I went so I knew there would be lots of mistakes.

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unfinished skull painting if anyone has any tips to do values more clearly im all ears.

>>2934919
i really really like this, dude. in terms of values, i guess if you want to keep the skull with the super stylized rendering you've got there, i would knock back the values in the bg so that there's more contrast, making the skull stand out more.

>>2934919
Render lots and lots of basic forms then tackle more complex ones. I learned lighting in /beg/ through critiques so I recommend it. Also it's easier to first learn values in black and white before trying color. Steve Houston's Laws of Light is very good.

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Still slowly fussing with this. I plan on tweaking the ram's legs to make them look less distorted, maybe add more people to fill out the scene. Other than that I dunno I hope this will all come together in the final stages as I'm not really feeling it yet.

>>2934965
I'm loving the foreground, anon. The head of the ram seems a little small/the body and base of the neck are kinda bulky. Also, the forelegs look far apart, I believe ram knees are also more inward facing. Honestly you could just move the foreleg on the viewer's right to the left, and that would also make it not look like it's on the verge of falling. Do you have a blog or anything where I can see more of your stuff?

Also I'm curious, do you guys draw base sketches and paint over them on the same layer, or do you multiply a layer on top of a sketch, merge later when you're satisfied, and render from then on?

>>2934965

Darn, this is wonderful. Please show me more of your work. How did you learn to paint so well?

>>2934965
ppl seem awfuly calm in the presence of giant ram that obviously had been attacked by humans b4 (arrows in its nose) also front left hoof looks wierd positioned like that on the edge of this rock

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>>2933903
yeah according to comic book greats like Joe Kurbert its better to write the story first, then draw otherwise both suffer, how true in my example./

a quickie tonight

>>2935088

Gee almost like they don't notice the weird mystical beast. But that couldn't be the case, no way. No such thing as invisible giant animals.

>arrows

do those look like arrows to you?

>>2934965

How did you set up your perspective for this? I think i figured out that your horizon is very low but where were your vps? i'm sorry i'm genuinely trying to learn this because this piece is very impressive and someday i'd like to be able to do something like it. your perspective looks great and spot-on but when i try to overlay the diagonals in ps i don't get any conclusive vps.

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>>2934228
more

>>2935449

Your figures are pretty nice
but the faces irk me to hell and back. You also tend to draw the head out of proportion, the one on the left is too small and the other two too big.

>>2935453
maybe the one on the left is a lanky cunt and the one on the right is a midget how bow dah

>>2935454

that's not quite how it works brah

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Had some fun doing this. Maybe I'll add some color later

Could somebody please explain how to use color palettes to me? Is it mostly to keep your color values in check and do I have to keep opposites and complimentaries in it?

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Please IC

I really like where this is going

but I'm burning out because I can't figure out skin tone, and how to finish this

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>>2935652
Take a look at paintings and photos of people with overcast lighting and make sure the values check out, anon. I see a few issues with the facial structure, but that'll be an easy fix if you measure the proportions in perspective.

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I need some feedback about the style and anything wrong you see in the drawing... I just want to know what to improve since I don't go to art classes or anything

>>2935660
Looks pretty generic babby's first style.
Study loomis/anatomy and you will inevitably create your own unique style.

>>2935660
don't listen to the other guy. I like it! The lines are very clean and certain parts show a lot of strength with that linework. Yes Loomis will give you the greatest fundamentals of anatomy, but the most important thing is to enjoy what you draw. I can tell from piece that you clearly enjoyed drawing it so please continue with your art.
Remember to resize thou for next time.

>>2934615
Looks kinda flat in some areas but I'm digging those juicy colors in the shadow.

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Eh, done. Gotta go sleep

>>2935660
Really digging the stylization of the flowers and especially the eyes! I'm such a sucker for bottom lashes being emphassized.

I think everything works with the exception of the hands and left-side arm. The right-hand hand cuts really awkwardly at the wrist while the left arm just looks awkward the way you've got it diagrammed like that. Jus drawing the full arm would've made it look better, imo.

>>2935827
oh shit, this is really pretty

>>2935827
Bit improvement from before. The foreground feels a bit dark though, even for being in shadow. Also the clouds look very unfinished compared to the rest. Is there a reason to top is cropped off awkwardly like that? Otherwise it looks nice though.

>>2935890
Thanks anon

>>2935893
Hm, yeah I tried making the foreground brighter but it just didn't feel right to me. Guess I have to look into values and color theory again. Also, usually I'm a sucker for rendering clouds but this time I tried to convey as much as possible with very less rendering and keep the focus off the sky. But now that you mentioned it I should have done a bit more, at least better work with edges maybe.
Well, that's why I post here, to live and learn.

>>2935974
Ignore what he said about the foreground being too dark it's fine

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Posting wip before going to bed.
Feel free to critique, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Progress is being made. Really fudged that front sword tho. :(

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R8

>>2936284
Beautiful render, far hand is far too small.

>>2934965
love the colors and values you usually use, but god damn is your stuff boring.
both the subject matter and the compositions you usually use.
I liked the centaur you did a while back but even the design of that was quite boring.
might just be a taste thing but personally i'd read into design and composition a bit more
great work tho keep it up

>>2936218
Reminds me of The Evil Within.

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>>2936218
i like your shading, especially on the fabric. all ballpoint?
>>2935521
cool sketches, got insta or some shit?

thoughts on the reptile?

>>2936352
Yeah one black one blue and one red. Takes forever but for some reason I get better results than with broad strokes.

Really glad you decided to ink this. What kind of pens are you using?

>>2936356
Variety of Microns mostly. and faber's Black Pitt SB

>>2936352
https://www.instagram.com/jordi_milian/

>>2936332
off the top of your head what would you change about it to make it more appealing to you?

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>>2936392
if it were my piece i wouldnt start it to begin with. subject matter is very boring imo.
19th century town with a huge ram with spikes impaled on its head, not very interesting.
i guess it just comes down to personal taste, and this piece and many others of yours dont tickle my fancy.
i'd recommend looking at pieces by accomplished illustrators for say magic or whatever and see what they're doing, maybe even take a bit of inspiration from how Riot handles league splashes in terms of bending perspective and in doing so creating a more interesting and dynamic comp.
what i'd like to see you do personally is do more pieces akin to the crow beast you did, idk if that's its actual title but w/e
keep up the good work

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>>2936407
I've gotta say the illustration you posted is obviously masterful but the composition is more confusing than it is "dynamic". Maybe that's what the artist was going for, to put you in the midst of a chaotic battle, but imho I prefer the clean, straightforward and readable composition of the anon you replied to. 0.02.

>>2936392
Not him, but your lamp is lighter than everything else in the picture. My eyes keep involuntarily shifting to it. Since it seems to be morning, it should be okay to make the light dim.
Also, if I were you, I'd add some kind of demonic glow (maybe even with an afterimage/trail to indicate just finished motion) to his eyes.

>>2935827
noice, I expect an animu character to pop up like in phoenix wright, another code or sakura wars or something

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I'm not liking this anymore

>>2936485
leave it at linework, looks like cool ink sketch. this does indeed look worse. like it took some life out of those drawings.

Followed you btw, drop more sketch-like things there!

>>2931070
lol, oppression denied.
>>2931243

>>2932761
this one is magical, bro. The palette works really really well, the sky and rock interaction is very nice also with the light on the rock. I'm listening to steve roach - reflections in suspension tho, so my judgement of aesthetics might be compromised. But I saved this picture.

>>2932774
>>2933959
>>2936502

Is this a new irony meme on /ic/ or maybe, are those from brian ? in that case I would understand.

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starting fresh,just a wip

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>>2931402
rather hard to work with a style that you're not used to, have to remind myself not to blend in places cause that would ruin the congruity of the piece.

not quite happy with the forefront rock, seems a bit vague.

>>2936736
consider closing the gap on the bottom. it would make the crack look more like a window, and help the composition aswell

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drew a house cause its warm outside. im going to figure drawing later today

>>2936525
>are those from brian
nope

>>2936525
I meant it
>>2936502

>>2936737
Which one is the forefront? I'm thrown off by the exceptional congruity of this piece.

>>2936908
Funny that it was warm because it looks like snow on the roof.

>>2936672
This is awesome. Finish the fruit tho!!

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Just some fun imagination sketches I did the other day

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>>2930727
My recent shit. Crit pls.

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>>2936950
Right hand has changed since.

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>>2936951
Work in Progress.
Only dog is done(ish)

>>2936941
Uyeno come back to permanoobs

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>>2935660
same person here.
So what about this one? I know the proportions are messed up but I like drawing hands and heads bigger. Do you think it's a "unique" style?
I just really need opinions :')

>>2936986
>mediocre to low quality anime
Yeah real unique bud you're the next rembrandt

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>>2936938
Do you think I should make the big rock more distinct from it's surrounding? I'm happy with the left of the picture but the main rock just seems a little dull.

It's not my normal style, I usually try to be more or less representational, but there's no harm in trying out different styles, though like I said you have to remind yourself to stay consistent.

I do feel like the colors are a little...babyish, though.

>>2936986
it's nice but I wouldn't say it's unique by any means. art styles like yours are a dime a dozen over on tumblr.

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WIP
Just a Monkey with no purpose

>>2937077
>>2937073
These are fucking great. Traditional? Blog?

>>2937316
Your monkey has the facial structure of a cartoon cow. Nice render tho!

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>>2937318

hello thank you for your kind words. i do not have a blog and yes my art is done by hand (drawing pens) traditional. here is 1 more

>>2937350
Saved that one. Are you a pro or are these just for fun?

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>>2937354

these are for fun and i am pleased you like them here is 1 more

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wip

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figure drawing from tonight

>>2937417
cute

>>2937417
brian follow me back on instagram baka

>>2937417
if you're not going to spend the time on background stuff then just suggest it, don't scribble it in. similar kinda deal with the face, don't draw a cartoon face on the figure just for the sake of having a face, just do some general tones if it'll fit with the rest of it better.

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>>2936485
you need a more "fantasy" pallete of colors
try this

>>2937417
We will never escape anime eyes Brian. Like your piece.

>>2937575
i specifically go to figure drawing when this model says she'll be there. same reason I like drawing Catt. White girls that look like anime characters.

>>2936312
Thanks.

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please, some lighting help? i don't know how to deal with directional light/showing form through light. thanks!

>>2937632
Honestly the drawing in this is a bigger issue than the lighting. THe boobs are tiny and bolted onto the ribcage in an awful way, one arm and hand is huge while the other is tiny and stunted, the pelvis makes little sense, and the femurs are really long. Lighting you just need to decide the direction then simplify the forms in your mind and paint the values based on the planes.

>>2937642
thanks for the critique! you're right about the anatomy, i should've paid more attention (and really i'd be the first to admit that i don't know how to draw boobs lol). will try to fix

can you please elaborate on the lighting stuff? i know that much but whenever i try it fucks up...

>>2937443
>if you're not going to spend the time on background stuff then just suggest it
thats what i did tho

>>2937663
suggest it with something other than hurried scribbles then

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>>2930727
help

>>2936423
why do you draw so big?

>>2935827
m8... those shadows dont make sense. you have 3 different types of shadows. on the top you have a shadow point up, on the bottom you have a shadow point down. and then theres the forground shadow. wtf

>>2935827
How do I get as good as you? This looks like employable work for VNs. I've always wanted to do BGs, but I have no idea how to get the ball rolling.

>>2935827
This looks really nice, anon. It looks like a prospective animation background.

How did you do the detailing on the roof tiles and brick work? A pattern then warped around to fit the perspective?

>>2937073
>>2937077
I still think the blue background mess is a negative to these. It's not so much the idea, it's just the colour choice makes everything chaotic and causes it to be very hard to look at. Personally I think it actually ruins the pictures.

>>2937368
I-is that you "static dota 2 doll porn women" drawer? Are you expanding?

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Photo-study

>>2937780
Also, How do I simplify all those leaves and trees around?
Does anyone have a tutorial or something?

>>2936436
>>2937753
>>2937756
Yeah, it is an commissioned background for a Visual Novel. And I painted the textures like the bricks and then warped them, spot on anon.

>>2937752
The shadow pointing upand those other ones on the house are right since me base was a quick 3D light render. And the bottom which I suppose you mean is not a shadow being casted by one of the pillars but by one of trees. Also the hill is rising up towards the house which distorts the shadow. At least I thought it would look that way but if it's mistaken and mangles with the perspective then I guess I fucked up on this one.
Nevermind.

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>>2930727
Haven't painted anything digitally in 2 years. Wanted to give it a go last night so I painted this up.

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>>2937632
finished~ tried to fix a little, didn't quite get it...

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>>2937810
jesus christ... the file soze im sorry :D
Here is a smaller version

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>>2936502
Thanks, though it will probably look different when I'm done with it, I'd done a much smaller study in preparation (10x12"), this painting I'm working on is the biggest I've attempted outdoors so far, 20 x 24", four times the size.

You think the rock is maybe a little cold though? There's a lot of green moss and ruddy tones on it I'd like to introduce,but I know it can get fussy if you break up a plane too much with detail, and the appeal of this boulder is how bold it's planes are.

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>>2937829
And this is the real life rock, I exaggerated it's height and tilt a little. Like I said I'm working plein air, not photos, so you have to time it right for when you want to work again, so I have a lot of different pieces on the go.

>>2936525
naw, haven't seen him around for a while

>>2937810
>Haven't painted anything digitally in 2 years
yup its showing

>>2937855
What would you say is wrong with it? I know that the brushwork sucks, I dont know how to render properly in ps, but i thought I did a decent job with the values and drawing.

>>2937866
it has nothing to do with photoshop just saying.

>>2937879
thanks for being so vague, very helpful

>>Look up this, Scott Robertson does this shit amazingly good https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesign

>>2937810
There's a lot of basic drawing errors here. The features are misaligned and not in perspective well.

Otherwise I think just controlling some contrasts better will help. You have too many hard edges in places where they can be softer such as around the lips, at the terminators etc.

>>2937829
you are thinking too much about local color. find the brightest spot of your painting and base all your midtones and darks around that one spot.

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>>2937834
>>2938302
i feel like i didnt explain that well... light isn't just light. Some light is stronger than other light. Depending on how bright the light source is, thats how dark the area you are painting should be.

If light sources go from 1%-100% a painting with a 100% light source would be very dark to create the illusion of a very bright light, and if it's 1% you'd probably be fine doing closer to local colors since the illusion of the light source would be very slight.

here's an example of a still life I did where I used that. Everything got painted and mixed darker because the light source was like 30% brightness.

I didn't handle it as well as I would now this was a painting from february, but think of if you're painting a white plate, and it has a reflection of the white light source on it. You have to make the plate much much darker to make the reflection noticable. You can't just paint the whole thing white, even if locally that's what the colors are.

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How this? what good? what bad? manman need know

>>2938310
You found the answer? That's great. I was wondering from when you were streaming.

>>2938325
maybe push him to the left a little bit and add some stuff to the background, like a rack with weapons on it or a doorway or something?

>>2938325
Too much contrast. You are going from pure white to pure black, and you are both overexposing areas and underexposing areas. Try to work more in the middle values and only compress the value range in one or the other of light/shadows.

>>2938403
check the proportions, as the arms are incredible stubby and small especially with that massive head

>>2938327
Thanks for the idea man definitely will do something like this

>>2938370
so have either mostly highlighted areas (pure white) and then work down to the middle of the range of values or have mostly dark areas and then work upwards to the middle. Thanks for the help

>>2938284
Yeah I can see that. Kind screwed up there.thanks!

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quick plein air landscape, 16"x20"

>>2938604
Brian right? I'd recommend using larger brushes rather than a one-size-fits-all approach, it took me awhile to get comfortable with large brushes but it makes for more uniform tone, which is appealing, and saves time.

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And done.

I probably went overboard with the smoke, but at least it hides some of me being shit.

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Might be more suited for the beginner thread because I don't paint much but some goober.
Looking for critiques because I'm feeling pretty stale recently.

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first time doing 3D shit

cannot into colors, halp.

>>2939413
>zbrush is 3D shit

i wanna see you use maya and cry yourself to sleep afterwards, that is 3D shit.
zbrush is a comfy sculpting program, basically like drawing in 2D. if you are good at that, you will be good at zbrush famalam

>>2939428
they produce the same 3D shit? What does it matter if it is maya or zbrush? Anyways, colors, what do.

>>2939413
anatomy.

>>2938901
I don't necessarily see anything "wrong" with this that I could critique, but it's unfinished looking, so if I were you I would put more time into it and think about a goal.
If you are just doing a portrait of some kind of fantasy/scifi creature, I say render it out a bit more and call it finished, because overall it looks pretty good. One thing I thought of though could be its positioning. Maybe tilt/rotate the whole character counter-clockwise just a bit and give it a neat but subtle background.

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Thoughts on composition?

>>2938627
what i really need to work on is my smaller brushwork. I have a hard time bridging the gap between finer details and larger areas. like where the tiny branches meet the sky. it's hard to be that accurate. i guess thats why people buy those maul sticks.

>>2937740
Why do you think so small?

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critique before I continue. Red lines would be great if it's not too much to ask.

>>2939531
Well for one it's off center

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rate my drawing
(by the time i realised i was so off center it was already too late)

>>2939599
Waves aren't usually so sharp when rough

>>2939531
What inspired you to do this piece? I like the way it's presented.

>>2939466
The bow's angle feels a bit off as well as the strong vertical kind of messes with the composition. Feels like the flow is broken.

>>2939608
im not sure how i should draw waves, thats kinda a placeholder, clouds too

>>2939609
Contest for a mmo I play.

>>2939594
I know :') sorryy

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New draw thread when?

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>>2939611
Thanks for the feedback I'm going to rework the fore ground figures then.

Thoughts about coloring so far?

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new painting

>>2939881
Nice, those "ugly" stereotyped brush marks that represent trees no longer look so ugly and stereotyped because they're now part of a composition and interact well with the house.

It still lacks something though, I believe it lacks (cool?) shadows on the ground or some sort of foreground. It needs that last step of depth

>>2939450
Thanks, I appreciate the advice!

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strange creature

is this still bumping idk

>>2939748
This is indecipherable. Clean it up.