>tell classmate their anatomy is a bit off in a critique session

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>tell classmate their anatomy is a bit off in a critique session
>'it's my style!'

I know your feel, bro.

>>2912618
>trying to help your competition
N G M I

>Brony kid draws nothing but flat tentacles at the border of the page

>you sure draw a lot of tentacles..

>its my style

??????????????????

>>2912618
>he fell for the art school meme

>>2912668
Not necessarily. I'm double majoring in CS and Graphic Design.

Though I feel like I've learned more about art from the internet than my Graphic Design classes

>entered college as a fine arts major
>one year of ITS MUH STYLEEE!!! later
>switch majors to chemistry
>now a junior in geochem, still draw a lot and ok at it
>want to get a minor in digital art to help round out my degree

Dare I enter the world of 'muh style' and 'muh OC donut steel' again?

>>2912674
Do it. If for no other reason than to feel smug about your skills

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today I will remind them (and tomorrow, too)

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>tell a peer their anatomy is a bit off in a critique
>'Post your art'

>>2912618
>Why did i go to art school?
Because you're legit retard who cant' even pick good art school?

>>2912691
Draw don't tell.

>>2912695
this is generally a good rule since as you said, you're their peer and not their teacher, and it didn't sound like they asked for your help.

>>2912706
>in a critique session
>didn't ask for help

>>2912727
oh you didn't specify that it was a deliberate critique session

>>2912636
>what is a critique
You must be from /ic/

>>2912728
I did. It was in the OP

>>2912735
wait, are you saying you go to art class and your peers haven't seen your art? or are you criticizing people that ask you to post your art on /ic/? sorry I'm tired. nvm.

>>2912706
>>2912695
why do you even upload your pic here if you dont wont your mistakes to be poonted out?

>>2912739
I don't I was confused by what he said and then I got it. people only say post your work when the criticism is trite stupid or mean, like calling a frazetta painting "shit" and saying nothing else would be a good example.

>>2912742
>people only say post your work when the criticism is trite stupid or mean

Oh, this is not how it works around here.

>>2912744
literally link me to a post where someone has said "post your work", I'm done arguing about this dumb shit.

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>>2912737
ho lee fuk

A 'critique session' in art school is when EVERYONE pins their art up on the wall for EVERYONE to see and you say what you like and don't like about each piece.

BTW here's a still life for you fags saying won't post my own work

No, it's not perfect but at least I accept criticism without going 'muh style'

>>2912686
when was this chart made, seems like it would be outdated by now

>>2912751
I miss critique sessions, my still life class was awesome. None of us were afraid to hold back and we all took concrit well, improving together as the semester went on. The best way to improve is taking critiques around other artists, you can bounce off each other's ideas/techniques/vibe.
Then figure drawing happened.
>the anatomy of the shoulder looks really off, it's kind of short so the whole arm looks off
>THATS JUST HOW I DRAW SHOULDERS
>yeah but you're drawing it wrong
Everyone treated me like fucking Hitler and I eventually left the art program all together. If you don't want to improve and you can't take criticism I don't understand why someone would go into art

>>2912814
>If you don't want to improve and you can't take criticism I don't understand why someone would go into art
That's probably exactly why some people go into it though. If you hate getting criticized then art might be appealing since people are told as kids that there is no wrong way of doing things, so they want that creative freedom to do whatever they want and have it be right.

>>2912814
For real, that's why I come to /ic/

Most other art forums are a hugbox and no one really digs into your piece. I'm trying to fucking learn, tell me what I did wrong so I can fix it.

Fucking grow a pair people. Of course you suck, you're learning. You suck until you git gud and then you tell people how much they suck so that they can git gud. This is how learning happens

New drinking game, take a shot every time:
-oh I wanna work for marvel!
-well I'm working on my own manga
-I'm going into video game design!

Two shot if the person who said it sucks, and double shooters if they end up flunking out

> teacher tells me good looking characters are the easiest to draw
> also ugly characters have a "soul" thanks to their ugliness unlike them

>>2912843
I mean your teacher was right? People are taught to draw generic figures and pretty faces. You can pretty much follow a formula for it. And when something is a bit too ideal looking it tends to lose humanity. Just look at how sterile Loomis' illustrations were. He did these perfect faces and it's in this lifeless uncanny valley.

>>2912618
You made me flashback to my foundations classes my freshman year of college
>"oooooh I really like you're style"
>"interesting color choices for this realistic still life we're supposed to be painting"
>"I like how you chose to give him an elongated torso and giant eyes"

IN FOUNDATIONS COURSES. Style should not exist when you're learning things like basic proportion or color theory.

>>2912846
It's the other way around for me, I can't draw beautiful women that well, but monstrosities and old people come easy to me.

>>2912847
Also, I will never forget when I had a girl try to call me out for somehow cheating because I had no "guidelines". We were all in the same room together the entire 2 hours, drawing the same still life, in complete view of everyone else. She was actually fucking mad at me. That was years ago and I still rage thinking about it.

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>>2912846
Good looking goes way beyond lifeless loomis tier.

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I like how all of you guys are very strict with the learning process of fundamentals. It makes me feel like we shouldn't listen to ourselves or other art peers, only pay attention to books, profesionals, or very experienced people. Just cover your ears when normies try to teach you something. It's all about the hard work and enjoying the process, wich applies to every area of knowledge, not only arts.

Getting critiques and failing is the best way to learn, no question asked. I love you /ic/.

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>>2912880
I love you too, m8. We're all going to make it.

>>2912751
I was asking a rhetorical question there. but alright I'll give you some criticism, it looks really flat, the interior of the glass doesnt make sense, you should be able to see ridges on the inside that match the side we're looking at, it would look better overall without the swoopy black thing in the back. the belt of the watch is probably the strongest but I'd suggest varying up the line thickness. look up some lineweight tutorials. that is all.

>>2912672
how many years will you be in college for that?

>>2912751
the watch band is dope-tier

>>2912662
hahahahhaha wat

>>2912618
How did Drew become a meme?

>>2912636
>not sabotaging the competition
ftfy

>>2912618
>Be terrible at art
>Can't go to an art school
>Settle for local classes
>Ask for critique
>"I really like it"/"you're doing great"

Why is every class I have ever been to a massive fucking hug box?

>>2913408
Because they're not serious about art like you.

>>2912691
me on the left

>>2912851
XD
>inb4 >XD

I always liked challenges as a kid because I knew they make me better, so I tend to avoid guidelines which brought me the same kind of shit

the worst part?

we didn't have actual art teacher, but just an music teacher which knew jack shit about drawing and she would put us to copy painting from books by numbers, like we were playing some kind of song note by note. And she would get mad when I tried to actually learn something, by breaking down the painting in elements and layers.

>>2912839
whats wrong with having a dream/end goal? If anything i'd only take a shot if their work is scrubby like really bad symbol drawing or super shitty anatomy

>>2913408
can't you just go like

>"if you could change something about this drawing what would it be/if you could fix something..."

i mean yeah normie hugboxes are dumb but sometimes you need to give them a hint.

>>2913499
>XD
ngmi

>>2913499
>reddit spacing
>XD
Don't even lurk moar. Just go away.

>>2913708
I MIGHT not make it, but I'll DEFINITELY not make it if I don't try
>>2913760
>been here for +2 years
>I go on reddit just when googling a subject and it comes up in the search, don't even know how their interface works
>what is spacing for better clarity

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>>2912686

I believe this chart.
But I believe going to art school will land connections that would otherwise be impossible to obtain.

I don't want to do into so much debt for just a chance, you know?

>>2912739
>Not having a friend that's already made it to critique your mistakes.

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>>2913809
>+2 years
Lmao what a fucking faggot

>>2913930
>some people browsing 4chan are younger than it
really makes you think

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>>2913930
>tfw 2007 newfag.
>10 years later, still a newfag

>>2913930
>Started browsing at the end of 2014
just because in those years that's what the most predominent anons were, that doesn't mean all of them where from the same source

before starting to lurk 4chan I was mainly a mangafox and memecenter guy

>>2914173
Okay this is bait, nice 1 anon.

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>>2914173

>>2912880
Honestly some of the best advice I've gotten from /ic/ was just to look at some of the social realists like Ilya Repin and practice recreating them over and over again.
The beautiful thing about the history of art is that we can improve simply by looking at those who've come before us.

>>2913221
Some black people discovered it, called it "blinking white guy", and it spread like wild fire.

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>>2912846
>I mean your teacher was right?
Look at this fucking passive-aggressive uptalking reply written like a teenager at her phone, you can almost smell the ugly vagina behind the screen trying to grasp at straws and give her own abhorrence any redeemable quality.

No, ugly people are not harder to draw than pretty people. The prettier, the smoother. The smoother, the less you have to work with to confer realism/volume. With ugly people you can just delineate everything and not worry about a damn thing.

I think what your Tumblr-filled coconut is TRYING to spew is that more detailed people are harder to draw than flat-faced anime girls. But that's because you're thinking with symbols.
One's gotta think with symbols when reality is too ugly to face even when you're brushing your teeth.

>>2914787
that's fucking hilarious

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>someone asks for advice on a picture
>point out something that is wrong with it
>THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GOING FOR IT'S MEANT TO BE THAT WAY I MADE IT RETARDED ON PURPOSE

Don't fuckin ask me for advice if all you want is for me to tell you it's perfect you fucking, fuuuuuuucking cuunts.

>>2912846
>drawing ugly people is harder than drawing pretty people
t. deviantart

>>2912846
>>2914973
I think both might be true for different people.

It's hard for people who follow a formula that doesn't allow for much changes to be made without it just not working on the page. The formula is what an ideal person should look like either in reality or cartoon/anime so they can't stray too far without being outside their comfort zone and can't capture a likeness

As for people who draw ugly or disturbing looking people, because ugly people aren't ideal you can fuck up more, not use an exact formula and get away with it. When you draw the ideal you haven't trained up your eye to recognise things like symmetry or perfect proportion.

Basically you know you are good at art if you can capture both the ugly and the pretty.

>>2913832
I pursued cc art degree solely because I thought uni would provide me worthwhile connections, but honestly the internet and interacting with the local community is just as valuable and a lot cheaper. I've made more valuable connections drawing in coffee shops than college, honestly,

>>2915002
This is the wisest answer on such topic...

>>2915321
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Didn't Da Vinci used to get excited when ever he got the chance to draw ugly people because he was bored with drawing pretty people? I think anon's teacher had a point

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>>2915404
That's not totally wrong but only works if you limit "good looking" to doll like pretty faces. And even then it depends.

And with 2D you can do so much more than that while having it looks good, you're more limited in real life.
Depends also what fits in "ugly". It's all too vague and there are no simple yes/no answer for any of that.

Also, using one guy, no matter how skilled, as reference for this kind of stuffs isn't really the best, maybe he had a fetish for ugly people or something.

>>2915759
I wasn't necessarally saying one is ALWAYS more difficult than the other. Just thought it was immature that anon wouldn't even entertain the idea that ugly people are difficult to render.

>>2915797
Difficult =/= harder to draw than good looking

>>2915805
>In the entire universe of possibilities, there's absolutely no case in which an ugly person would be harder to render than a pretty person

This kind of black and white thinking is a symptom of autism, anon.

>>2913643
I have before. Every single time I get something like what this guy gets:
>>2912847
>>"I like how you chose to give him an elongated torso and giant eyes"
Additionally
"You're doing fine. No need to worry"
"I love your style! Don't lose your uniqueness"
"You did your best that is all that matters!"

At this point I'm looking into hiring someone to teach me how to draw on a one on one basis because books and websites have been useless to me. I'm at such a basic stage I can't even get through loomis books.

>>2915821
I never talked about absolute but majority dumbass.