people that study or work in something not related to art,

>>2898049
sleep deprivation

>>2898059
do you work sleep deprivation or study it?

>>2898049

Nootropic stack and Drugs, (nicotine patches, Modafinil, and MAO inhibitors)

Electrical engineer here. I design circuits for radars that track space waste.

>>2898049
Med student here. I just mindlessly cram information.

>>2898049
Programmer here that doesn't program, I just manage people who program

>>2898049
Musician here, living from my parent's basement. Teaching guitar and songwriting to high school kids.

>>2898049
Have episodes of depression and severe anxiety and work as a nanny. I'm also an expert on living in poverty.

>>2898049
Just left highschool, neeting while studying art 10hs a day.

i'm on unemployment from the government and neeting

>>2898144
Same as me. I do still occasionally program on my own projects and some open source stuff.

>>2898130
I'm in healthcare so same. It's all those anatomy books that got me into drawing.

>>2898049
Sell drugs

Studying music. Planning on becoming a music teacher

>>2898373
Me too. I'm disappointed that everything I know about the pathophysiology of the liver won't help with anatomy.

mcbullshit while i study .

>>2898049
College student, will probably do CS.

>>2899014
I too wonder if this is okay. I hear the later years of CS give no more free time to do art.

>>2899017
I've heard people say that they had plenty of free time and I've heard others say that they were swamped. It's kind of a toss up, I hope I don't end up too busy. I was considering architecture before since it was at least semi art related but after I did some research it seems like an awful career path. At least with CS I'll hopefully have some free time when I land a job.

>>2898992
Don't say that, you can give skin varying shades of yellow depending on the function of their liver

>>2898049
Sell mattresses.
Its mostly minimum wage but sometimes I can sit on a cushy bed and draw when no ones around.
I'm hoping to quit and work full time freelancing soon though.

>>2899146
Does your boss hit on women?

>>2898049
Studying to get my Bachelor's in Psychology. My dream is to be an occupational therapist.

>>2899226
Could you help /ic/ with your abilities?

>>2899229
Once I'm licensed!

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I work at Wallmart for my 9-5.

Some day I'll be at a good enough level to live off porn commissions, someday.

>>2899283
I can just imagine anon saying this every single day as they work at wallmart. The despair really.

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>>2899287
It's an easy job and my coworkers/upper management are nice, but if somehow I couldn't draw for the rest of my life, I'd kill myself on the spot.

>>2899025
I have plenty of free time as programmer. Plus it's an uncreative job so you will be ready to draw when you get home
>low stress
>high pay
>effortlessly best artist at work amongst other engineers
>work from home too

>>2899398
What do you even do for work?

>>2899401
I'm this anon >>2898144 I've told this tale on /ic/ a few times before...

I went to school for CS, and thought I really liked coding. Turns out I hate coding and it bores the shit out of me. I started to finish my weekly deliverables in a couple hrs, so they gave me more work, but I kept finishing it faster and faster. After 4 yrs, I had too much work so they just gave me a team of coders to do my work for me. Now I just go to meetings.

Yesterday I worked from home and literally "phoned it in" - admittedly last week was a really shitty work week.

>>2898049
Commerce, major in Actuarial Studies

cabinetmaker,

threw my back out the other day so now i can't sit for long periods to draw, fucking sucks.

>>2899421
Then stand and draw at an easel, or lie in bed and draw in a sketchbook.

>>2899410
If you wouldn't mind telling another tale, what about coding made you hate it?

I've been learning since early February. I've been loving it, which is weird, since I usually suck ass at dealing with numbers and abstract concepts.

Is this just a phase? Will I break down once I get to the more advanced stuff?

Premed, Although I already have a degree in architecture

Yep, 23 and just hang around home. Studying and drawing. It's not bad. Better than working.

>>2898049
I work in a bakery and I decorate cakes. I'm also an anxiety expert!

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Started working this year as an english teacher (in a non-english speaking country)
I thought that i would have more spare time to practice my drawing skills if worked as a teacher.
Sad mistake

>>2899841
So what soaks up your time? Planning? Stress? Anxiety?

Computer Science, I haven't actually drawn since I started. This is the first time in a while I even visited this board. I'm too afraid of getting back into art only to realize I'm shit.

>>2899849
Embrace that you're shit and draw.

>>2899851
How do you guys handle the fact that you're never satisfied with your own work? I was better than pretty much anyone I've met and still felt like it was absolute crap. It's just one of those things that's hard to cope with since you can never actually create what you want.

>>2898309
What I'd give to be able to both draw and do music.

>>2899854
I still made something that I haven't before. There's an infinite amount of things to draw. I have so much more to do. Something to look forward to. Sometimes it comes out good and sometimes it doesn't, but it can always be improved if you spend the time.

>>2899844
Mainly planning classes and correcting homework, but i also have to fill in a bunch of useless papers that no one will read

>>2899857
I guess, but does your ability ever really come close to your perception? It's probably pointless to get hung up on but I feel like there isn't a single good artist that's actually happy with his own work.

>>2899862
No, it's actually different since I work and experiment on the canvas. It can surprise you when it's good and if it's bad then you know not to do that again. There are some works that are close to my perception but those only happen because my visual was very vivid. Generally I don't have a fully set idea and each stroke could lead to me seeing something different and potentially better. It's not pointless though. It's understandable that you will feel frustration and discouragement along the way. Sure we always aim for perfect, but it's fine to see when it doesn't work out. And although I may not be very good, but I'm definitely happy with my own work. It feels good to have created something from your own mind and with your own hands. It's the epitome of the self if I say so myself.

>>2899870
That's a good point. When I used to draw in made it very technical and got upset when I couldn't achieve what I wanted. Maybe it really took the fun out. I guess I'll try getting back into it and not take it too seriously since it's not my priority now anyway.

>>2899879
Yeah, good luck and have fun. Even if you aren't good, it's still relaxing to just doodle something and let your mind free onto the page.

>>2899410
How long were you in industry before that transition? I've always wanted to do something like embedded systems down the line so I don't burn out from the commercial shovelware I'll be coding when I start full time this year

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going to school for engineering

>>2899594
>what about coding made you hate it?
I've been coding for 18yrs (since middle school). I learned about good SWE practices in college saw that there was a lot to learn about AI, control algs, SWE, mostly robotics stuff. Excited, I picked up a firmware job right out of school to see what real world coding was all about. After 2 yrs of industry, I started to get bored writing the same drivers over and over, and once you learn the magic behind how OSs, apps, and embedded systems work it's not all that impressive.

Nobody is really solving new problems (stay in academia for this), they are just reimplementing the same shit. At a certain point, I found that given enough time I could code anything I wanted. I basically wasn't learning anything new.

>Is this just a phase? Will I break down once I get to the more advanced stuff?
Some people love learning about big SW systems, redesigning them to be better, and adding features. I found it contrived. I'm not sure what you mean by advanced... Programming is inherently quick to learn - it won't take you years to learn a code base or how an algorithm works.

>>2899959
>in industry before that transition
Been working for 6yrs at the same company. I'm unusual - most people move companies after 1-2 yrs (no matter what industry) after the honeymoon phase wears off.

>embedded systems
I do embedded systems. It was the closest I could get robotics which I thought I liked, but robotics is an engineering meme. Kids these days grow up doing robotics clubs thinking that they will be roboticists when they grow up, it's like the new pro baseball player false dream.

>>2898049

I draw at work, if i get a neat idea i draw on blank receipt paper when it gets slow.


NO EXCUSES

>>2903628
But you suck.

>>2898099

why would you just get on nicotine like that?

>>2899594
What resources have you been using to learn it? What language?

I'm asking out of curiosity of how you got to love it still as a beginner, since I'm planning to start teaching programming.

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I used to work as a math and chemistry tutor, figure drawing model, and stripper/porn. Now I am getting my engineering degree before joining the military.

>>2898120
a (you) because you're more usefull than 90% of anons here.

>>2899155
My boss is a woman. Why do you ask that? :0

Barista coffee monkey

I work as a bartender. I used to be an accountant.

>tfw make more in tips as a bartender than I was making as an accountant

>Graduated high school.
>Went to university as a Art major.
>Dropped out after two semesters.
>Now work at a construction site as a sheet metal worker.
>Make 35$ the hour, 70 hours a week.
>I'm only 19.

Am I happy? not really. The money is good for not even having a degree, but I don't get too much time to myself.

>>2905271

Why did you drop out of Art school?

>>2905273
I just couldn't handle it. the people, the work, the all nighters. Anxiety/depression got to me, stopped going to classes, spent all my time in my dorm, minimal social interaction at this point.

>>2905284
So, what do you want to do now, anon? Just ride the money train for a little bit and then try something new?

Software engineer student, hoping one day to work on artificial intelligence.
Don't have a lot of time to draw, but then again i'm a hobbyist, so i'll live

>>2905294
Yes, anon, hurry up and make our waifus real already.

>>2905289
yeah, work this year. Keep drawing. Hopefully decide on a different career and keep art as freelance hobby. Met a welder that makes 6 figures a year so I might go for that.

>>2898120
date me please

A custodian for a large store in the early morning. The entire job is muscle memory so I spend my time fantasizing about being good at something. Drawing now to maybe make it not as fictional.

>>2898049
studying biomed equipment, just something to do while i leech off my parents. I want to get paid animating cartoons and porn, but "im not good yet." But the free time is allowing me to study fundies

>>2898049
studying computer science right now, and it's killing me inside, I like programming but i thin i love drawing way better. im doing the barely minimun work at uni just so i don't get kicked out.

>>2903797
Any tips for bartending? What kind of face do you have to put on for people?

>>2898049
I'm currently in my foundation year for Computer Science at Anglia Ruskin University. I'm not too sure exactly what I want to do but I've considered going into academia or software engineering