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Why are the visual arts so undervalued when compared to music

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Why are the visual arts so undervalued when compared to music and writing? It's always been so strange to me that abstract artists and the like are praised just as much if not *more* as artists that have spent countless hours to actually learning how to create art.

Like, why is it that visual art that's objectively bad (for example that one piece where the canvas is just completely blue with a few white spots here and there) can be called visual art and not trash.

You wouldn't praise a guy that couldn't play the piano for shit as you would praise Mozart, even if they were doing it under the blanket of 'free expression', so why praise abstract artists?
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Value is subjective.

Next question.
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>>2892875
//thread
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>>2892874
Because music is entertainment that can be enjoyed over and over for hundreds of hours, alone or with company.
Writing provides hours of entertainment and creates entire worlds for people to immerse themselves in.

A picture you look at for a couple of seconds or minutes, unless it's porn.
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>>2892874
Art simply isn't as relevant today as it was in the past. Artists at one point in time were major celebrities and household names. In the fine art world the 20th century saw the rejection of a lot of art history and ideas that had been built up for centuries, which led to valuing originality of an idea over things like execution. This also alienated a lot of the public from appreciating art since it was no longer being valued by more measurable criteria.

The closest you get now is that people enjoy the entertainment industry so the artists that work on film and games are still appreciated, but it's not the individuals who get the praise.

Music on the other hand is something that is easy to appreciate and has continued to be developed in new interesting directions. It's also possible to listen to music while doing other activities, while looking at art requires you to focus entirely on it.
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>>2892874
Modern art is only a front used by organized criminals for money laundering. Why would anyone else pay millions for literal, and I mean literal, shit on canvas?
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>>2892971
Art buying was and is way too speculative to be a reliable way to make or launder money.
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Your wrong that anime you posted probably cost a lot.
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>>2892875
>nigger asks why something is a certain way
>nigger king answer with BECAUSE YES

Holy shit how many blood cells do you transfer to your brain on a daily basis? 2?
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>>2892975
>implying the artist isn't in on it
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>>2892874
Is it me or even then it is easier to make a living out of art commisions than trying to break into music?

People speak of devaluation but is not that what happened to music once piracy/streaming became a thing?
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>>2892874
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Undervalued as in how?

Bad art is accepted or held in the same regard as good art? That goes for literally any creative work. There is an uncountable mass of shitty music and writing out there that's loved by people both in and out of their respective crafts. Ever turned on the radio? Ever read a Dan Brown novel? And if you're talking about soulless, "trying painfully hard to find deep meaning" stuff, there's avant-garde music and literary fiction. They're not as notorious as abstract art (because they're much more complex to the unknowledgeable listener/reader and than abstract is to the unknowledgeable viewer), but 99% of musicians will tell you avant-garde music is shit and 99% of writers will tell you literary fiction is shit. It's no different from how artists view abstract art.

If that wasn't your point, I don't know why you brought up the music/writing comparison with abstract art.
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>>2892874
I'm afraid that fine arts and the rest of visual arts are not useful unless employed for some sort of "purpose." Concept artists make designs, and convey the idea to the rest of a pipeline. Graphic designers create eye-catching logos and designs using advertisement science, and I could continue. People who "just wanna get good" will not improve fast until they figure out what they actually want to do.
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>>2892874
When art is done well enough people forget a human made it, in the case of music you have a constant physical or audio reminder of human interference.

Just like you don't care for the craftsmanship of your chair or ads.
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>>2892874
Visual art both reflects and controls society's flow. That's not even considering the fact that you're looking at something right now that's been designed by an artist. There are probably a hundred artists/designers' names that could be attributed to creating the things in your room right now.

Advertisements and graphic design are more overt movements, but the "finer" arts (painting, sculpture etc.) work further behind the scenes.
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It's not about the piece, it's about the identity of the artist, or they're ability to like project or sell their idea to you. Kant said art is good when it can produce a "quickening" in the mind. Anything that provokes playing with thoughts/emotions can be considered art. And while many abstract pieces are overrated, they're still worth respect. Even if you can replicate it, it just isn't the same now is it?
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