Progress Thread

>>2886147
who dis?

>>2886147
Good progression, but I don't like the dark palette. Feels too dirty.

>>2886148
That 2009 wow.

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My progress, still gotta a long way till I git gud

1/2

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>>2886192
2/2

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>>2886146

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started drawing again - gotta beat my fall 2015 ghost. I'm not sure how he was so motivated...

>>2886266
Your style is so different compared to back then. Have you stopped watching anime nowadays?

>>2886147
guy's got a good sense of humor, didn't know he started so recently

>>2886266
what happened between the last two years?

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Started drawing daily last October

>>2886286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLEdsI731J4

>>2886322
>FUCK YOU
I'm definitely gonna be seeing that last pic in my dreams tonight ;_;

>>2886271
>stopped watching anime nowadays
Now that you mention it, I haven't watched in a couple years

>>2886286
>>2886337
Heh maybe... I've been trying not to copy as much too, and it turns out my imagination is lacking so I don't draw as much.

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Here's mine, what's helped me out the most is that I talk to a great artist and he taught me everything I know about painting.

>>2886442
I want to believe.

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>>2886146

>>2886442
looks like he forgot to teach you about your edges fa malam. lots of mistakes like the distance between nose and mouth and how some values are kinda muddy.

>>2886472
I'm still learning, edges are really difficult for me at the moment.

>>2886442
how long did it take for you to make that 2017 picture

>>2886472
what is muddy values, I thought that only applied to colors.

>>2886495
about 11 hours, 2 hours for block in then the rest were from corrections and passovers with the help of others, it's my first digital painting taken to completion so I know I work really slow for now, but I'll speed up now that I have practice.

>>2886472
I looked at the jpg I posted and the full res and saw that the jpg is really blurry, I took a screencap of the painting and resized it for the thread, but the full res has sharp/differing edges. Thank you for the critique and will keep those things in mind for next time.

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Wish me luck anons
I'm not painting as much as I used to, hopefully on summer I'll get back to my old rhythm of work.

>>2886442
Do you still draw anime

>>2886442
Who is the artist teaching you?

>>2886498
Values can be muddy too. It just means that the local value of the object is ambiguous because the values are wrong like maybe the halftones are overstated or something. I don't really see it being the case in that image though, maybe a bit on the kerchief around the neck but otherwise it looks alright to me.

>>2886596
I make anime sketches sometimes when I'm relaxing.

>>2886665
Don't know if he'd like me mentioning his name here, but he's really generous and I'm grateful. He's really good, like Lin Ran tier and he's done paintovers and been a really good influence for me.

>>2886794
How did you get someone of that level to mentor you?

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Top is imagination, bottom is photostudy.

>>2886848
so every year you draw smaller?

>>2886820
V A L U E S !

>>2886850
Ye

>>2886820
I'm in your second 2015 phase, can you talk about how you broke through it?

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Pretty shit tier, but I never put much time into drawing so that's purely my own fault.

If I got to go back I'd draw more, and get out of the comfort zone way more often.

>>2886852
Are they bad or good?

>>2886857
Basically I did a lot of photo/grayscale studies and did studies of the old masters. Then imaginary sketching to apply what I had learned
Learn to take things step by step. In 2015, I had absolutely no understanding of how colors or values work (or form for that matter) and it wasn't something that I should've been attempting to do at that stage. I realized this and didn't touch color for 2 years, instead focusing on making my drawing/forms/values better.

Also, inhale the art of others (old masters, art that inspires you). Spend a good few hours just looking at paintings/whatever.

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both from imagination

>>2886913
>generic girl
>dead on front view
>imagination
2017 working in a coal mine?

>>2886869
The blue guy w/ his dick chopped of makes me really uncomfortable

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have you seen sakimichan?

>>2886814
I just struck up a conversation and asked him for help. i thought great artists were superhuman or something, but you can just talk with them normally.

>>2886594
nice progress, keep at it

>>2886913
dakota rose?

>>2887013
Mte, are they self portraits of how she imagines herself?

>>2887013
lol sort of. i made 2 studies of her photos before doing that piece.

>>2886913
I made this comment;
>>2886936
and I have no idea why I went full cunt. Sorry for that. It looks fine, and don't let dickheads like me discourage you. Keep at it.

>>2886946
>tfw 2005 is still better than you
12 years here I come,

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>>2887050
>tfw you know you will not even live 12 more years

>>2887052
Way to remind me about an anon that told me he was going to die in a month, but I told him he could make his dreams come true anyways. Now, that was months ago, I wonder if he's okay.

>>2887053
He's probably dead by now.

>>2887057
Yeah, probably. He had no chance anyways. Well, at least there's still you and me, anon.

>>2887049
don't worry friendo, i'm used getting much worse on this fucking board. your comment was hardly full cunt. i considered the "dead on front view" part. i do need to stop that

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I just hope my 2017 can be as productive as my 2016.

>>2887081
That improvement from 16 to 17. Wow.

>>2886193
can you post the pic on the right with the blue sky and the desert?
i saw once and i really liked it

>>2887084
Is this sarcasm? I don't see much of a difference lol

>>2886964
Thank you anon,I love you

>>2886148
>took 5 years to learn how to photobash

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Need to work more on color and form, real shit at those have more stuff from 2012 but cant find my sketch book from that time its all just as horrible. Started digital in 2014ish I believe cant find anything from that area hence the gap (switched to a new computer lost most everything) but was just doing studies in that time frame.

>>2888108
You wish lmao

>>2888164
F I V E Y E A R S
I
V
E

>>2888164
well. there *was* anatomy improvement

>>2888209
>>2888220
Yea didnt draw as much as I shoulda obvi from 2012-2015 just some studies from time to time no illustrations or anything big. Wasnt in the best place and was in college at that time and learning a billion diff things 3d modeling, 3d animation, rigging, unwrapping/texturing, motion graphics etc. Started to get back into regular drawing like late 2015-present when school was focusing down to studying just animation.

>>2886322
fuckin love your stuff and blog man, how do I learn to draw like that

Comment on my progress pls

>>2886193
Nice art but your calligraphy with Chinese characters is awful.

>digital art

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>>2888888
heh nice one

also sweet get

any one got tripfags one?

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i'm getting the proportions right er, progress right?

>>2888994
Wow anon that second one on the right is amazing! I guess doing a bad first one is okay as long as the second one turns out good.

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Those two are a year apart
introduced some discipline to the lines

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>>2888888
Godlike

>>2888963
Who?

>>2888256
Nigga, you can get to literally from start to your 2017 drawings within a FUCKING WEEK, you literally have been drawing as a retard

>>2889442
newfag

>>2887081

Teach me how to do environments senpai

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Here's my progress...

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dont bother replying if you're just gonna shit on the subject matter, senpai

>>2889627
>little cloud puffs coming from dick

why do hentai artists do this

>>2888994
damn anon, is this from practicing loomis? from when to when were these?

>>2889681
fuck off fag

>>2889681

You're a degenerate, bud.

>>2889505
>Find photo references
>Paint
That easy bro

>>2889681
disgusting fuck

>>2889725

you seem triggered

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>>2889681
>8 years

at least you're having fun with it right

>>2889725
>>2889739
>>2890083

all these closeted fags

>>2889725
>>2889739
>>2890083
ebin

>>2890094
eh, I didn't draw at all for 5 years during that period (last year of HS + college)

>>2886315
nice!!

>>2889682
its called the "dick whiff"
when you have a smelly dick the cloud puffs represent it being musky

>>2890632
gag

>>2886266
i did that same octopus study from that beg thread

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2014-2016. I feel my biggest mistake has been not having a focus or theme, really just knowing that I like drawing characters, but never grounding them in stories, situations, putting thought in design, etc. Took online classes in early 2016 which gave me an awakening - but still terrified of not having the skillset/mindset to "make it."

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i lost everything before 2015 to a harddrive failure, would've been nice to see longer progress

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I haven't improved. Motivation has been at an all time low.

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I plateaued for a pretty long time. I cared more about making a buck from furries than I did on actually improving.

>>2886869
Wha the FUGG?

>>2891115
wtf nice gains

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11 years of shit... maaaaaan... looking at this made me really depressive, I never realized just how little progress I made over the years. See kids, that's what drawing from imagination does to you. Don't do it!! Learn your fundamentals!!

Good thing I found a job somewhere far away from art.

>>2891391
you're really not as bad as you think you are

>>2891391
and to think Sakimichan started just one year before you. >>2886946

>>2891115
>may2015 to nov2016
spill it bro. what did you DO

>>2891437
I guess that's just the difference between someone who pursues their dreams and goals and someone just giving up and all.

I just treated it as my hobby for the last years... but now that I'm about to turn thirty I hate how bad I draw... so last September I started to put a lot more work and afford into it.

>>2891418
That's really kind of you thanks anon :<

>>2891391
It looks like your painting skills are improving steadily, you're able to convey atmosphere with it. Your a paint first kind of artist it seems.

You're real bottleneck though comes down to drawing. A lot of these are not drawn very well, and although it's gotten better, it's still lacking some basic things. Your characters have a tendency to look flat which seems to be from not being able to draw the forms well.

>>2891463
That's a really interesting observation. I kinda ditched the whole artwork painting thing last year since I really wanted to do comics. I guess I still have a lot to learn until I can find the right way to draw figures...

An artist I paid to critic my work (yeah I'm so desperate at time) pretty much said the same thing you just did. Maaaan I wish I had a bit talent in the fields that interest me. I worked a lot with Hampton and Loomis trying to get my character drawings more interesting.

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This is what i got so far, some day i'll do it again. I think i improve something, but not as much as i expected.

>>2886322
You are rgessing from 2015

>>2891171

Did you contribute artwork to the Lone Digger music video? I recognize the dogs from there.

>>2889681
Lotta pokemon kids mad

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Redid mine

8 years of slow but steady progress and I'm enjoying every moment of it.

>>2891635
Its cool to see how you retained and even enhanced your creepy aesthetic over the years.

>>2891635
Man you really have a unique style - good to see you kept it while getting better. I'm slow too... slow and steady. That's how we'll win... one day.

>>2891641
Thanks, trying to make it more tasteful creepy though.

>>2891642
one day...

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I need to practice more.
I should try and stomach looking through older art of mine to make a large progression chart like the others.

>>2891568
Nah it just seems to be a fanart

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>>2886146

Just recently started :)

>>2891662
Dude... I don't really see any progress here... make a chart, show us what you got

>>2891737
If you just started don't draw from imagination, read "drawing with the right side of the brain" and read and learn as much as you can right away.

>>2891745
Thanks, I will do this!

Is it bad to draw from imagination starting out?

>>2887081
>only paints women

>>2891635
Can you post a full sized version of the fox in the woods from 2016? That is a fucking dope.

>>2891753
>Is it bad to draw from imagination starting out?
Only if that's all you do. If you only draw from imagination then you're not learning anything new, it's best to draw stuff from ref and then try to draw it from imagination so you can understand what you're doing wrong.

>>2886869
Looks kinda like rebecca sugar's work

>>2886869
I guess that's one way to cover up anatomy issues.

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What is progress and how do I make it ?

>>2892042
>Steven Universe has been live since 2015
Really makes me think

>>2886146
does dot have a blog?

>>2892097
He gets mentioned a lot lately.

https://www.instagram.com/thorstendenk/
https://www.artstation.com/artist/thorsten

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>>2891773

Here you go, buddy.

>>2886442
Tbh this isn't a good comparison. Your second painting is from a reference. This doesn't show what you can do except for copying pictures. Post something from imagination instead.

>>2886266
fukken saved!
I've been looking for yet another real progress chart to keep me motivated.
Nice take on Sonichu, by the way.

>>2891568
It was just a scene redraw in my own style, I love that video.

>>2891391
You have done yourself a great disservice by not learning how to really see things and draw from reference. Fark, dude, I hope you get better, learning forms would be great for you right now. I recommend everything Huston teaches, anything Huston you can get your hands on.

>>2891391
shit, that's why i suck despite drawing for this long

>>2886148
I honestly prefer the first one. It might not be extremely good. But the other 2 are so generic it hurts.

>>2892466
How is the first one any less generic you contrarian moron? It's literally the same subject matter, theme and composition, just without the skill.

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Haven't painted in a while now.

>>2892477
>Haven't painted in a while now
how come?

>>2892479
Come on, don't take the bait

>>2892483
how is it bait?

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>>2892479
well I've been doing alot of non painting related work that's taking alot of my time (animu sweatshop related) and pixelart stuff that i've been doing on the side for a personal project.

screenshot is prolly the most recent stuff I made that I have to scrap because ... apparently upon further deliberation. I didn't really like it that much.

I'll prolly continue or redo the whole thing once some of my projects are finished.

>>2892214
yo what happened to your tumblr?

>>2892477
>>2892487
Those are so nice. Could you tell us what you did? Study books, life drawing, master copies, classes?

My 2006 looks like your 2006, but my 2015 is nowhere near your 2015, and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

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>>2892496
I only have book I religiously read and it's loomis figure drawing for all its worth. Painting is something I picked up along the way.

I generally just compare my stuff to some of my favorite artists like kuang hong (when I was younger) and joseph paton now.

I just draw short burst of stuff everyday to my sketchbook.

added a bit of snippet.

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Not really sure how to feel. I mean, the progress is there. But I don't really feel like a better artist.

Might be because back in 2013 I usually spent days on a drawing.
Today I want it finished in ~3 hours or I'll get bored and start drawing something else.

/blog

>>2892499
Thanks for the info! How do you keep from becoming derivative if you look closely at one artist at a time?

>>2892471
More interesting designs and penmanship (that's sadly ruined by that horrible colouring).
Sort of slightly reminds me of Katsuhiro Otomo.

The other two are just generic concept art nr39496

>>2892508
I guess things like that comes naturally if you draw long enough? I am really quite unsure on that one as I always see my stuff as generic trash and it always makes me feel upset about anything I try to do recently.

I think I maybe in a slump but I'm not really sure...

>>2892494

Nothing but due to me having to have to be more "presentable" I had to change the url from erkiasjad.tumblr.com to silverkontus.tumblr.com

>>2892440
Thank I'll look into it. And yes I now i messed up by never using references.

>>2892450
Yeah... maybe i should have gone to artschool at one point...

>>2891391
Dude your bad habits have reaaally kept you back. Good to see you improving nicely now though, you're definitely not bad.

>>2892531
That's really nice of you. I already started reading up on forms. But right now I'm still working through 'drawing with the right side if your brain" and 'a noble approach."

Beside that my husband has finally agreed that i can draw him! drawing from real life here i come!

So yeah... the past is bleak but I can't change that anymore... time to work on my art gains anyway!

>>2892513
Hope you get out of your slump. Wish I knew what to say, but I don't know the cure for art slumps either. Good luck

>>2886200
lol he got worse

>>2892513
If you're in a slump go back to the fundamentals. Draw from reality. Learn the real deal. You'll feel more confident and it will help you progress a lot faster.

So, been drawing all my life.

All from the magical land of imagination. So, I suck. I still love doing it.

I am also an engineer (cs) and also love programming. Also bad at it.

I know this is isn't /adv/, but pls help this lost 22 year old out.

>>2892630
That's actually what I'm doing for 5 months now. I think this is more of a work related stuff rather than an artistic struggle.

>>2892636
>pls help this lost 22 year old out
>...drawing all my life...All from the magical land of imagination. So, I suck.
Sounds like you already know your problem. At least if you are an engineer it means you have money, so you can afford to buy some proper art books/materials/tutorials. Might be worth buying a subscription to something like New Masters Academy or Watts Online to start off since it is guided.

>>2892640
just graduated so im fuck all in terms of money, im on a job hunt

also in the country where everyone and their grandmothers are engineers, so getting a job is like racing ussain bolt

but I see your point, once a little dough rolls in I'll do those

>>2892643
Well even if you are short on cash there is nothing stopping you from improving on your own. It's easy enough to find pdfs of books and torrents of videos. Pencil and paper is cheap. A used tablet and torrented software is cheap.

>>2892645
thank you senpai

>>2892643
>grandmas
>engineers

nice try

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We all gonna make it

>>2892740
Sublime

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>>2892501
could you post these two images please ? I really fucking love your work.

Especially the first one, i'm a sucker for pictures with loads of information in them, stuff that takes you hours to fully take in.

I believe you'll bounce back soon enough, i wish i had something more to say that would help you, unfortunately i'm a beginner myself

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>>2892898
Thanks a bunch, m8!

Yeah, I love easter eggs and shit like that, so I usually like to hide that kind of stuff in my drawings.

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>>2892898
And here's my parents old kitchen.

For somewhat personal reasons this image is actually pretty extraordinary.
Because this drawing is way to fucking good for my abilities at the time, as seen on the absolutely horrible shading. I genuinely have no idea how I were able to do it as well as I did.

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>>2893003
>>2893010
Thank you! the second is especially calming to me for some reason, go figure

mind posting your website so i can keep following your stuff ?

The Scraps section houses a lot of older stuff. For a while I was drawing on /f/lockdraw to get used to drawing on a tablet. Had some fun over there. Some of it is from 2015, some of it is from 2016. Very little of the scraps is from 2017.

The images in the main gallery are from this year.

http://hollymartins.deviantart.com/gallery/

I posted in another thread linking to an imgur account.

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>>2893053
Let me try that again, for some reason it flipped the image.

>>2892740
FUCK this picture is for ants

now the real challenge is corresponding the bunnies to the anons in this thread

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i did a lot of semi-abstract stuff mostly without a specific goal, looking back on it. i'm still working on realism (and anime). i think some of the classes i took in 2016 helped though, also i have been doing more detailed concept design.

>>2893178
>putting anime in parenthesis like you didn't mean it as your main thing

>>2893180
lol i didn't even put like 1% of the anime i actually drew in there

progress is a meme

>>2886869
Im absolutely in fucking love with your style. Keep it up! And definately draw more often!

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>>2893689
Thank you. Will do.

>>2886944
The idea is, is that he's shedding his own body to merge with a god.

>>2893037
I don't really have a site, sorry.

>>2892501
The spiderman drawing is great

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>>2886869
>>2893689
Every minute this guy spends on drawing is minute he does NOT bruttally killing some inoccent soul.
So I hope he keeps drawing.

>>2891171
Fuck you bitch id kill to be at your level.

>>2893756
Thank you!

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Trying to reach pro level in the next 3 years.

>>2894273
You fucking nig-nog. Have you been pulling some Fay Sho 25h/day bullshit?

>>2894273
You seem really familiar. Especially the first drawing on the top left. Where else have you posted your art?

>>2894279
No I draw 3 hours a day, but I make sure everything I do is deliberate.

>>2894282
Hmmm.

If you steal any of my future work I'll punch your mom in the boob.

>>2892477
wow!

>>2894289
Steal your work?
>>2894280
Uhhh... Tapastic?

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first attempt ;)

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>>2895243
second attempt

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>>2895244
third attempt

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>>2895245
and Fourth attempt

i think its good for a one week Progress what do you think? I want to draw realistic.

>>2892499
tumblr or insta?

>>2894280

Looks like Moe on sycraforums.

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>>2890775
it was a good octopus for studying - that was the pinnacle of my marker ambition

>>2892320
>Sonichu
ah that reminded me that I drew this too - /ic/ used to be so much fun

>>2893003
this is sick. very transmet

>>2886200
Anon, do you have eyes?

this thread looks extremely depressing
9 out of 10 times drawings are 100% copy paste from reference and the 1 out of 10 times of the drawings are from imagination which look extremely bad
most of y'all cant even draw, the ones that do look good barely have any sort of realism to it and are just basic cartoony bodies which you draw mainly cause you lack any real realism skill
y'all need to start git gud or drop drawing as a whole since you aint making anything worthwhile beside your cartoony-ish faces anyone can draw

>>2897839
Tell me more.

>>2897839
I enjoy drawing cartoony faces, they amuse me. I'm not a very deep person and I'd rather show a picture to someone that invokes laughter than a portrayal of beauty or communicate an argument

>>2897842
whatever you tell yourself to sleep at night buddy

>>2897839
I think it's selection bias. Good people often don't bother making these comparison images because they know that their work is good and stands on its own. Mediocre artists like putting these together because their work is bad but when they put it next to even shittier work they get pats on the back for improving.

>>2897844
funny thing is, the only thing they improved on is they stopped symbol drawing and use references for basic proportions, which can be done from like Day 1 of drawing

>>2897843
You are the one who seems to have trouble to sleep at night, friend.

>>2897849
i do, gives me only more reason that i should improve instead being "content" with mediocre drawings 8billion people on earth can alrdy draw

>>2897844
>>2897848

Good artists usually don't feel the need to put those less skilled than them down in such a pitiful, bitchy way either though. Below mediocre artists like to talk shit about those who are slightly better than them because they have insecurity issues and easily get jealous and spiteful.

>>2897852
Kek, you are that faggot from the other thread who is mad at people who have fun drawing. That explains a lot. I can already tell you, this mindset you have will not lead you to live a happy life and in the end, you won't improve much either. Being angry and jealous all the time is the very thing that will make YOU always stay mediocre, if you can even reach mediocrity at all and not give up earlier.

>>2897855
>>2897862
woa, much salt? your drawings are THAT bad?

>>2891391
take a figure drawing class for a year and you'll be pretty gud. It seems your problem is understanding the forms your drawing. Best way to improve is to draw from real life.
I had the best improvements with figure drawing because you passively train your eye to recognize forms in a space.
At least you heavely improved your paniting skills.

>>2897852
>>2897839
pretty bad edge

>>2897839
>y'all

>>2892042
you're doing fine
keep at it

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All of em from imagination, don't have many things that I'd consider finished.

>>2901950
>not including the 2017 pieces

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>>2901953
I honestly haven't done much for 2017 yet...

>>2899114
Thanks anon, I really appreciate it. This helps me to continue working.

>>2889399
That a neice torso

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Picked up drawing again after 5 years and have been drawing in my free time. Long way to go but it's /something/.

>>2902280
Stop with the edgy symbol drawing stylised bullshit

>>2902508
lol why should he stop

>>2902280
Are you trying to police another artist?

>>2902514
Because it's cancer, b0ss

>>2901959
Love your stuff

>>2901959
>all those muscle rins
I like you

>>2902508
I'm always looking to improve! Any particular areas?

>>2903138
Everything you fucking no talent unskilled worthless dogshit tumblrina symbol drawing piece of fucking shit

>>2903146
why are you still here Choob?

>>2903155
Who's choob?

>>2886442
Man I'd really love to meet some good digital artist to teach me, I go to an atelier but of course people are only into traditional stuff so they can't help me.

Where did you meet him, real life or online?

>>2902280
Blog?

>>2903138
Not them, but you're not really drawing forms, you're drawing stickers. It's not quite symbol drawing since you're obviously aware of it, but you're not going to improve or be able to draw anything more complicated than that if you don't practice drawing from reality. For example, in your "Surprise" middle drawing, you've drawn two pecs next to each other, and an abdomen, but you haven't done any work connecting those parts. More glaringly, the shoulder on the right of the image is only connected to the torso loosely, it's merely next to the pec, and the side of the body has been turned into a gray wipe-away, rather than actual anatomical drawing. It's why your drawings feel disconnected or plastic, and it's why the hand on the right of your final drawing seems to float above the shirt sleeve, rather than extend from within it.

TL;DR You've reached as far as you'll go if you don't back up and learn anatomy.

>>2903855
This is extremely helpful!! Thank you so much anon. I'm taking this to heart and will go practice real life. Thank you again! I very much appreciate it

>>2903730
What is this meme?

>>2903155
kek

>>2892487
Are you an animator?

>>2904023
For the animu one? Just storyboarding but I do pixel art animations from time to time although I'm a pretty bad one.

>>2892042
Why wouldn't you mix your 2d and 3d capacities instead of doing one or another ? Could be nice when doing full illustrations, having 3d skills can spare you some time depending on what you do

>>2887049
Rare post of someone apologizing on 4chan for being a jerk... You deserve a medal, man.

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Slowly getting there. I hope.

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reminder: study

>>2905131
getting where? looks like you're not going anyhere

>>2886869 I'm not saying it's 'good' but it's very interesting to look at.

>>2893703
DUH

>>2904110
youtube

>>2903155
top lole

>>2905131
Last one is on the right track for sure.
Don't listen to dickheads and keep up with the studies.

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>>2886146
What do you guys tend to do when you're stuck in a really long plateau?

The last half year of studies and different methods I've felt there's no progress whatsoever everytime I try to draw from imagination.

>>2905503
Are you semi-pro level?

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90% of my work is studies of photos or screenshots, is that ok?

>>2891171
Went from amazing to super amazing in my opinion

>>2905579
Focus less on painting and spend a lot of time on drawing and improving your draftsmanship and gesture, perspective/construction, and general anatomy (nothing too complex). You've delved into painting into wanting to making finished, perfect illustrations when your drawings just aren't solid and lack a sense of depth, form, and any real sense of story. Composition is getting there, but still not where you'd want it to be. I'd say with your studies, instead of painting of full portrait and calling it done, do 20 heads in a sketchbook or if you really do like painting; make it 20 small heads and paint them with a light, dark, and midtone gray (3-tone value scale).

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From 2015 I started studying game art so I had to ditch the weeb stuff.

>>2905514
I've been able to get a certain flux of commissions but no, nowhere near pro level

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I don't have enough to make a concrete progression pic, but this thread give me the idea to redraw a drawing I did 2 years ago

>>2905912
Ok, thanks a lot for that advice, I will take it to heart

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>>2905191
it looks like you combined the male and female leads of the fifth element.

>>2906129

your style is kind of cool, givin' me some loose pen vibes i like it. got a blog?

>>2905984
>weeb art
i admire your progress, gives me some serious nostalgia however through it your art still seems quite flat? it seems like you kept a bit of a copy paste feeling of flatness, just some advice maybe study form and color values, just from looking at your progress i can see that your eyeing off the colors rather than understanding the depth of them. that's not to say that i don't like your work, i love it, especially the space girl and your little character designs are cute. but maybe to improve draft your ideas more in your sketchbook [the toned goes really nicely] play around with them, get a feel for the environment etc. keep it up anon, i want to see your art in the draw threads.

>>2905579
is that lineless work i spot in 2017? got a soft spot for that shit, nice!

fullheartedly agree with what the other anon said but heres a quick tip, when painting digital environments/background elements, zoom the fuck out, like make the canvas tiny af and don't zoom in until you have what you need/adding tiny midgets. good luck anon, 3 years so far so good.

>>2903164
Online

>people are only into traditional stuff so they can't help me
that artist got me into studying traditionally as well as digitally. I'd like to have the cash to spare for an atelier kek. One of his recommendations for me was "draw 50 heads a day in your sketchbooks until you understand."

>>2905503
I learn as much as possible, when I know the big general things I tighten up the tiny things and constantly ask myself questions, too.

examples:
>understand form
>study planes of basic shapes
>study planes of face

>what values are in this black & white image?
>if I turned this colored image into black & white what value would this highly saturated light orange be?

Mindset is a big deal, if you think you're good, you're going to keep producing things of the same quality, if you think you're bad and need to study to get better then you're getting better.

>>2907141
Yeah but there is a lot of shit inside, I do a lot of different shit, that's not the style I always have. Please have a look https://captainmorgansalvador.tumblr.com/

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still got quite a ways to go but im proud of the progress I've made so far

>>2907148
Thanks anon, that's some good valid critique.
I should indeed push improving on depth/color/form.
I post in the alt thread sometimes (posted the space girl and the orange cat knight there too) if you like my work.

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Promised you fags I'd post some progress at some point.

>>2907524
is this a b8

>>2907771
where is it?

>>2907771

>lefttoright

So wait, left TO right? As in, left is before and right is after?

>>2907780
b8

>>2907783
Right to left. How'd I manage to fuck this up.

>>2907775
No, am I that bad?

>>2907866
Not that guy but the improvement isn't huge. You've cleaned the lines up and improved the background a bit, but the same mistakes are always present.

The issue is that characters are mostly flat, like they're squashed between two panes of glass. You need to build a believable 3D "skeleton" and vary your angles (like the camera being below, upwards, tilted, just experiment) so that things are more dynamic and have more interesting anatomy. If you can do this and build decent anatomy this way, the next focus is using shading, highlights and values to actually build 3D shapes. Yes, cartoonists often simplify shapes and only add basic shadows, but you don't have those skills yet. For now, you need to fully build the characters before you can deconstruct them later on. Use colour theory too, with cold shadows and warm highlights.

Finally and most importantly, vary those fucking lines. Shadows need thicker lines than highlights, and linework alone should be solid, and can show so much more. In fact, go look at quality comics and how they are built. Pay attention to everything and try to understand the rules. Often, comics have a really solid linework with shadows and all, then colours are added over the top of it. But here your linework is as bland as it gets.

So my recommendation would be to keep working on your fundamentals, but apply everything to the characters. Step out of your comfort zone, and get much more information from quality comic art, try to understand it, what makes it good and so on. It's always hard giving advice like this because you might have trouble understanding what I mean, or I might miss some important aspects as to what you're missing. Hope next time you can post some massive improvement. Oh and don't get discouraged you fucking faggot. Now go draw.

>>2886266
drawing stylized cartoon shit like this is the dream for me but it's so hard to give myself a practice routine for something that isn't realism
you guys know what i mean?
anyway i dig your art

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Took me way too long

>>2907524
I'm gonna be harsh here and say that I don't see any improvement. You've only improved at painting the exact same level of work.

It looks like you haven't studied how to draw/paint. You're drawing cartoons so maybe realism isn't so important to you. But wouldn't you want to take your work a step further?

Your paintings from 2015-17 look practically identical. So if you continue painting the same way now, you'll get better at refining your cartoons, but your work will stay at the same level. If you study the fundamentals of drawing/painting, your cartoons will improve so much. You'll be able to make them more real, grounded, your character design skills will be elevated.

>>2907907
>>2907940
Thanks for the critiques I've just started actually doing studies and taking a good hard look at the sticky
saved both of these for reference

>>2886266
did you actually draw before oct '13?

>>2907936
thanks - /ic/ isn't wrong when they post that meme pic of "learn to do this before you can do this" the realism helps a lot.

>>2908212
when i was in elementary school I drew. I was frozen at a 6th grade level until i picked it up again when I was 25, it's only arguably more advanced now...

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>>2886266

>tfw stagnated for years
>got worse

>>2891538
>>2891538
pretty creepy my dude

>>2895246
tangible improvement

>>2905579
You're outright copying things instead of analyzing things, you're severely lacking form and values. I'm not being harsh, this is honestly the advice I needed when I made paintings similar to yours, anon. You're doing okay for 3 years, but don't get comfortable because of my compliment, instead keep going hard to get better.

>>2904128
I was looking into that as well to be honest. Right now I just have a lack of confidence to mix the two. I've been checking some videos and tutorial on how to do it though to help build scenes.

>>2886266
what's the pink bar mean on the side?

>>2910004
pink = didn't keep accurate dates on my drawings so its an estimate, but these were all crappy studies
red = copy / study / traced whatever you want to call it
blue = combination of references or based on a pose i saw
green = from imagination

>>2908325
fuck i want that ahegao gif but i can't find it

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2014-2015

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2015-2016

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2016- some 2017

>>2910806
Solid

>>2891391
drawing from life is a bit over rated

i spent 4-5 years doing still lifes and did 2 years of figure drawing, and now when i paint without looking at things, i just blank out. i dont know what color things are supposed to be, i dont know how dark things are supposed to be. all my art skills are rooted in looking at a real thing and transferring it into a picture, and my pieces that are based on imagination has to rely on crutches like anime. my ability to convey realistic colors and lighting juat goes poof when i try to paint from imagination

>>2895246
You're just tracing feet instead of constructing the forms. You're not learning shit from these.

>>2889627
2016 is my fav. but i definitely see progress

>>2889681
this is really nice. not to sound cliche but blog?

>>2910806
Are any of these from imagination?

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>>2910616

>>2910804
What did you study during this time?

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im fully digital now

i trudged through all this gay traditional shit and now i have to relearn every thing in digital fuck this gay earth

>>2911547
>fuck this gay earth
lol

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lots of good critique in this thread, contributing so it doesn't die.
(1/2)

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(2/2)
I know this isn't great progress, but i honestly have issues with concentrating and finishing things. no bully pls. ;_;

>>2912799

Thread isn't meant to last much longer since it's beyond 300 posts and is nearly off the board catalog.

Started a new thread here: >>2913191

>>2911261
all of them excpet a few

>>2911282
not much study, feng zhu, scott robertson, matthias zamecki, few others