Animation Thread

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This isn't so much animation as a test of a concept for a short I'm trying to get off the ground.

>>2858299
looks interesting so far. what 3d software did you make the eye with?

>>2858273
Well that's the coolest fucking thing I've seen today.

The OP is awesome, where is it from??

>>2858552
>>2858569
Couldn't find what movie it was from but it looks quite similar to the stuff by Alexander Petrov. Here's a movie of his that's done similarly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyfOWwWTtiU

>>2858374

Just after effects. 2D painted image projected onto a sphere.

Kind of a Psuedo-3D effect.

I'm trying to learn more about full 3D compositing, but the way After effects does it is so weird, integrating cinema 4d...

>>2858614
>>2858569
It's from Lincoln Vampire Hunter (2012)

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i want to learn rubber hose style animation, are there any tutorials or books that teach this style?

>>2859510
other than just studying the style, it's pretty much just like doing a flour sack animation but instead of a flour sack it's a balloon animal

Got an ipad pro as a cheap cintiq. Any app recommendations? I like fooling around with simple frame by frame for now.

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>>2859545
Idk if they're on ios too but the best android animation apps i've found are Flipaclip and RoughAnimator

>>2859840
Flipaclip is casual-tier at best.

I have it on my phone, so maybe I'm not getting the best experience but it can't compete with really any of the big software like ToonBoom.

tfw no friends and need voices for an animation. where do i find voice actors?

>>2861420
you try voice acting?

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WIP

comment/crit welcome

>>2861420
You don't need friends, just go to Newgrounds and make a post saying that you need a voice for your cartoon. (I think they have a collab forum or something?) Just give a little bit of a description and you'll get a couple people asking you if they can be in your cartoon. I asked a while back and got like 6-7 people wanting to help me out. Feel kinda bad cause I never finished the thing but oh well. So yeah, try posting on Newgrounds and you'll be sure to find willing voice actors and you'll get to be a part of an awesome yet autistic community.

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Posting the only piece of animation I've actually been proud of making

>>2861466
dont be lazy with the hair on the back of the characters head

>>2861466
it looks cool.

I think the hair moves nicely but the bottom part of the right collar doesn't look like its waving compared to the rest

>>2861471
needs more frames as it is coming in so that it reads better but very cute

>>2861528
>>2861529
thx anons

>>2859849
I started making gifs in photoshop and wanted to try something specialized, but could not make heads or tails of toonboom.

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>>2859545
Made pic related on my Ipad to try out an app called Folioscope. It's kinda hard to draw with your finger but I am assuming you have an Apple Pencil or whatever it's called.

>>2862182
pretty fuckin sweet

>>2861491
more than I did this month.
p good, make short scene next?

Why don't webms play on mobile anymore?

>>2859849
nigga what are you talking about, everyone here is casual tier at best

>>2863198
They do? Im on android and they work fine

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I found these tutorials. Maybe you'll find use for them, I dunno.

I think he's pretty good.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/8141123

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I animated this to go along with some music

Here's the YT link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMNqCf1gdsw

AMB stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL13sqei25Q

Kyuu has some really good animation tutorials for toon boom.

Unfortunately his youtube page is being dead.

>>2865270
Holy shit, im retarded.
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/user/ckami

>>2858552
>>2858273
literally me on the left

The pegbarians dude did another animation analysis. Figured I'd share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlrpo2nod64

>>2865479
their art fucking sucks. i'd be surprised if their videos are any good desu

>>2865479
Wow, that was very little information in a very long video.

>>2865800
Agreed. Breakdown videos are dime-a-dozen, and this one is especially forgettable.

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>>2861471
update

>>2865964
nice, keep going.

>>2865721
I'm not going to lie, I laughed at this and I've barely played the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594qtjmhOFE

The animation is pretty shitty but it could be worse.

>>2865721
>>2865800
>>2865813
>>2865974
>litereally every post in the animation threads is beginner tier except for that one guy
>all these pros suddenly show up
kek I agree that it isn't that informative aside from the basic info about easing in and out and arcs but you guys are just hating. Post work if these guys are so shit.

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plz don't hurt me

>>2866018
You can be the worst animator out there or not an animator at all, but you can still analyze and break down animation if you know a lot about it.

Do you think that all movie critics are expert film makers themselves?

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>>2861965
I can answer anything related to toonboom related if you need.

>>2866374
not him but do you know if theres a way to lock the alpha of a layer and then draw within that shape? it would be handy for adding shadows and stuff i imagine.

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>>2866391
The light table feature lets you change pencil line opacity so you can draw on color layer with stroke:


Albeit you would use the highlight/tone nodes to do this kind of lighting instead, and it will self cut into the drawing that you need (il make an example in a sec

>>2866404
Couldn't upload the webm of highlight/tone here due to size, this should work though:

https://webmshare.com/XzvVx

>>2866427
>https://webmshare.com/XzvVx
thanks this is perfect.

man it's going to take me a while to get used to this software it has weird ways of doing things

>>2866018
>>2865974 here,

To be honest yeah the animation isn't Richard Williams-tier and I just don't care for the calarts style but I was of course being a bit hyperbolic. The actual animation itself is perfectly competent and utilitarian for youtube (which is anti-animation to begin with).

>>2866440
Yea learning toonboom has been fucking ungodly, it felt so cumbersome after flash that I quit my first try into it.

However now that i'm proficient in it all the tools/settings make sense and it's lighting fast, something i can do in 2 weeks in tb would take 3 months or more in flash.

>>2866038
interesting, make more.

>>2866374
different anon, but do you know how to pan the camera?

Rogue One gave me a hard on for good cinematography

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>>2866447
>>2866452
Everything also has curves. So say you have a bunch of highlights on each part of the character. If you say want to turn off the lighting, you don't need to do them all one by one. You can bind all the controllers to one curve and that will let you use it as a switch to turn on/off the highlgiths/tones. You can also draw new highlight/tones frame by frame, and move the tone/highlights inside of the piece with a peg without changing the tone drawing if you need.

>>2866453
You make a camera and throw a peg on it, super simple. It also lets you change fov (can be real time change via curve as above with highlights), and you can make pseudo 3d stuff by moving it in foreground/background.

You move the camera on frames you want and keyframe the same way, then you can edit its path in 2d or 3d format.

Again too big of a webm to embed:

https://my.mixtape.moe/ojtzcm.webm

Anyone looking for an introduction to ToonBoom/Harmony shouldn't pass up this lecture by Adam Phillips (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/408967). I think I posted it towards the end of the last thread but it's basically OP material tbqph. It really shows why ToonBoom is the industry standard for digital hand drawn animation and deserves to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duza1C0kHYw

>>2866527
>Waterlollies

Whoops, meant to post the YuYu shake my head desu

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/310851

>>2863309
Yeah, but we're casuals using industry-standard software. Flipaclip is a novelty that I could see being useful for learning how timing and flow work but not much for actually creating past that.

Clip Stuid Paint has the best animation timeline of any traditional bitmap drawing software I'm aware of. While it's vastly inferior to ToonBoom it's also a very small fraction of the price-I would encourage anyone to give it a try.

It's a shame I can't give that honor to Krita with its "flash like" timeline and their absolutely fantastic frame selective onion skin but it's simply too unstable to count.

>>2866555
>Clip Stuid Paint

Sure wish it wasn't way too late to delete this post, but at least I get to laugh about it now

I'm working on some short videos and I want feedback.

here's the YT link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVcv3DE78X4

>>2867193
thats pretty dope, whatd you use to animate?

>>2867291
thank you! I'm using mixamo for automatic animation and rigging, I'm pretty lazy to make it by my own, I made the 3d model character and rendered the animation in maya, and post production with after effects :)

>tfw want to animate
>tfw no ideas

>>2858273

What's a good online animation course (preferably one with a focus on traditional animation)?

>>2867667
https://www.youtube.com/user/eubasaban

http://bitey.com/fx/ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKmo_ab0kY4)

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can you guess which movie its from?

>>2867667
All the courses I see always waste your time with bouncing ball exercises when you should simply be learning to draw if you are truly beginner. So I say you really need is the Preston Blair animation book. I've found John K's ramblings and cartoon theories to be a useful supplement to it though.

http://johnkcurriculum.blogspot.com/

All it really comes down to is drawing good poses. If you can't do that, no amount of inbetweening will ever make your animation look good.

>>2867705
tron legacy
also, blog?

>>2867722
yeah you got it!

sorry no blog

>>2867705
You're focusing too much on rotoscoping and not enough on making the movement fluid. That right arm in particular looks terrible.

>>2867746
I get that it looks wonky af I'm still a novice, but for me doing these helps me learn a lot. I didn't rotoscope though its an eyeball copy

Toonboom or TVpaint?

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Getting used to the Krita layout with some ol' ball bouncing and a different timing to what I normally do.
Gives it a different sence of character.

>>2867788
cut out/puppet animation = toonboom
frame by frame = tvpaint

excuse my use of the word, but please redpill me on going to school for animation, /ic/.
2D or 3D, doesn't matter, I just need some input.

Is it even worth it?
I've read so much shit online about how you shouldn't go to school for art, but I'm being pressured to go to school by friends/family who don't understand the industry.
Frankly I don't understand the industry either, so that's why I'm asking.

From my limited understanding though, animation careers seem to be generally pretty low-income, which is why the idea of going to school and landing myself 10k in debt, that I may or may not be able to pay off within ten years seems fucking retarded.

If the US wasn't so fucking stupid with it's educational system, this wouldn't even have to be a decision.

>>2867788
Try Krita, it's free...

>>2867803
>Not pirating

Come on

>>2867805
I've tried them all, dude. But, Krita has been the best example of a free animation software for a long time now. My other fav is TVPaint though.

>>2867802
Depends on what you want to do but generally 3d animation makes more $ because it's not just animation studios that hire you but actual game developers.

If you have a degree from an art school it is easier to get a job relatively speaking since you'll have a portfolio to go with said degree.

However there are plenty of animators (like myself) who never went to art schools, and just did our work online, made portfolios, got known (youtube or vimeo is great) and applied with that and got accepted. Being an animator isn't like doing construction engineering or medical work where the work you do could hurt someone if you arent taught properly, so you can get hired based on skill alone with a good portfolio.

>>2865964
Feels wayy to stagnant during that middle pose there. I liked the first one better

Here's something I animated in Toon Boom Studio last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z_w8G7PYOQ

Next episode is gonna be done in harmony with character builds instead of fbf

>>2869009

Make more :]

>>2858273
Hey guys i need help
The tvpaint program i downloaded is no longer working and i have no idea why
right as i open it stops working and gives the error of the same thing is there a way to fix this?

>>2867802
>US
You try applying for a grant? FAFSA gives 5k, 2.5k per semester, if youre eligible

>>2869753
Awesome work man!

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>>2869753
great job anon.

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a new shitty shit animation

>>2869753
Wow

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Trying to figure out how to better this rough. I was originally going to have gohan behind lil cell but that may obstruct the animation. Thoughts?

>>2869753
do you have a blog?

only crit is the second hit (with her left hand) should come forward a lot more

>>2870083
What is happening between the transition of lil cell into gohan?

>>2869753
so bro, how do you keep the proportions right, but more importantly, how do you plan out your secondary action. This is a little too good for us

>>2870108
slhoneart.tumblr

I'll look into that, the key may have been misplaced for that second hit.

>>2870695
I draw her outside of the animation (like doodles on post-it notes at work) so often that I don't need the model sheet in front of me.

For the secondary stuff I just act it out while consciously asking myself what am I doing naturally? It helps that I had an interest in boxing and know the anatomy of a punch.

>>2869759
>>2869903
>>2870069
Thanks.

>>2869511
C: > Users > [username] > AppData > Roaming
> tvp animation

Delete the TVP animation folder but beware it will reset everything. I find this works when it crashes on launch.

>>2858273
How long does it take to get to Japanese Animantor level?

I'd like to do a thing in flash but can't find a tutorial for it. If anyone would have any hint, I'd be really grateful.

To simplify things, let's say the screen starts with a prompt "Which clip would you like to watch?" and a text input box below. If the user puts in "1" and confirms, a clip plays on the screen. If the user puts in "2", another clip plays. If anything else is put in, nothing happens.

Does anyone know where to start? It doesn't have to be flash. Any tool will be good if it gets the job done.

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>>2866555
I just came here to say this, also it's amazingly easy to understand compared to other programs, specially if you already tried manga studio or sai before.

I figured out I need hotkeys for new cel layer, select previous layer and select next layer, which other hotkeys do you guys use?

>>2870939
Sounds like /g/ would be a better place to ask my man.

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an extreme shit attempt to animate tit physics

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Is anyone aware of a good torrent/download for Toon Boom Harmony? I found one for Harmony 12 by Llexandro, but after following the instructions, it crashes after I choose to "work offline."

I just want to test how it works on this computer. I'd use the trial they offer on the main website, but it ended as I switched to a new computer, and I asked for an extension through customer support about a month ago, and they still haven't replied.

>>2871598
I got mine from cgpeers. I remember it being a huge headache to install though, but it works.

>>2871608
I'm fine with terrible headaches if it works. Do you happen to have the link? Quick google search shows "cgpersia", is that it?

>>2871353
>tiddies


Nice

>>2871611
https://www.cgpeers.com/

>>2871632
Oh, private tracker. Darn, guess I'll have to wait until the 1st/15th. What's the registration process like?

>>2871598
>>2871611
>>2871632
Looking over the /ptg/ Private Tracker tutorial, it's saying if I just want one specific file, it might be better to just ask for it, rather than go through the whole process. If you happen to have that on hand, it would be extremely useful, otherwise I'll wait for registration.

>>2871598
The only working crack for 12 is on mac osX, there is no functioning crack for 12 on windows. The only thing there is on windows is run as date with varying results.

For those unaware there is now an animation/storytelling course up on Khan Academy by Pixiv with talks and lessons to work through.

>>2871785
I looked there and found tutorials from Pixar is that what you meant?

>>2871797
yes.

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Helloooo

I am currently looking for an animator who is good at capturing facial traits and applying them into a cartoon form. Particularly, I need the likeness of 5 people captured onto pineapples...

So like 5 pineapple people. WHOS IN?

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>>2871612
this is for you

>>2867750
what you mean eyeball copy?

if this isn't tracing then it's better than anon probably thought

>>2871815
How much are you paying?

>>2872391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

>>2872522
He looks at the video and copies it without tracing. Basically 'eyeballing' it.

I'm looking for a program to be able to draw over video frames with. Anything good out there, or is photoshop my best bet?

I'm trying to get into digital 2D animation. I'm aware of the difference between bitmap and vectors, but why would you go for bitmap (unless you want a more painterly look?) what are the advantages of bitmap vs vectors in animation?

>>2872871
Pretty sure most animation software will let you import video as a layer for rotoscoping. Personally think PS's animation tools are tedious to use.

>>2873191
See a lot of studios using a little of both if it's hand-drawn. As you say, usually comes down to just wanting more aesthetic variety in bitmap.

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>>2873223
Let's say I want something like pic related? I suppose it's possible in bot vectors and bitmap?

I'm just not for of the typical 'flash' animation look which in my head relates to vectors. Am I wrong?

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still tryin to figure out this whole animation thing.

>>2873254
doing good! tumblr? blog? youtube?

>>2872391
do you still post to youtube? I don't think I've seen your videos in awhile

>>2858273
Do we have a discord channel yet?

Here's one https://discord.gg/eRKSAJ4 Need some active people to share with

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bouncing ball from an animation babby

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>>2873358
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MAKE IT SLOW IN AND OUT OF THE TOP HOW DO PEOPLE EVEN GET THIS WRONG??

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>>2873368
you mean slow down at the top of its bounce? yeah, that time i tried copy/pasting the first frame to accomplish that, but it wasnt enough. this time i added some more frames with subtle movement here

thx 4 tough love

>>2873384
hm still looks fast. i swear the whole thing is slower before exporting

>>2873384
wat. stop trolling. you have to add consecutively more frames at the top, and less as it falls and bounces back up. Don't add the frames in evenly of there's no change in momentum.

its not nice to troll

>>2873386
yeah still too fast add more inbetween frames and check your export settings if it really does look different.

sorry bouncing ball errors really trigger me for some reason

>>2873387
well thats what i meant, when i said "added frames" i was just referring to the top of its bounce. not the up/down movement. pls dont mistake me being a bad babby animator for master trolling

>>2873390
thats ok. its the simplest thing there is so you have every right to be triggered

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i'll kidnap a thousand bouncing balls before i let this company die

Are there any good guides on animating in CSP? I like the UI/brush use and set up, it's easy and feels like PS, except for animation. It feels kind of awkward adding/moving around layers, inserting frames etc.

Was wondering if there's any clear tutorials because their user manual is meh.

>>2873407
I''d say exaggerate more. It's technically ok, but it doesn't appeal much.

Bigger bounce, more squash and stretch. Make it as exaggerated as possible, and then tone it down until it looks appealing to you.

>>2873240

https://vimeo.com/thespastudios/klaus-teaser

A little over a year old, but I think that project shows that things have come a long way from early New Grounds. Got a little bit of everything, but it is still hand-drawn animation.

>>2866374
I made and internship in an animation studio and the task they gave me a day was to organise all those nodes, never again

You guys might like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWtt3Tmnij4

>>2874350
Haha I was just about to post this too. Love that guys videos

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first animation evar, time to startt walkinn

>>2874357
her arms look a bit stiff. There seems to me no bend in the elbow when dragging back. Also the mid body area seems to twist too far out from the shoulders.

>>2862182
This one has the spark

>>2873985
Since I animate solo I just make it like that, then throw it in a group so its clean on the main timeline (and I can go up/down chains with hotkeys). But yeah if I was making these orderly for someone else that would be annoying as hell.

I would like to start learning animation to pass my next year entry exam in an animation school but I don't know where to start, what should I do ?

>>2874771
Does no one read the OP these days? But really, best start is to try animating.

Why are you getting into animation though? You want to animate CN toons?

>>2874772
I read the OP but there were some much links that I got lost haha
No I just love the world of animation, I don't really care about CN toons and stuff, I'm much more into movies

>Images lose quality when put into program
>Can't be transparent if low quality
>Images are quality pngs in paint but become shitty tiffs when actually loaded
>Even screenshotting the images keeps their apparent curse

fucc me up pham

>>2874357
First off, stop trying to make pretty drawings.
Drop the >it must be a naked anime girl
Do about 5 more walk cycles and then post the 6th.

what makes gobelins student films/work so good???? every single student work i've seen has been phenomenal, what do they teach in that school?

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>>2858273

>>2875976
add a hold frame after the impact

the fact you took this from a movie where actors acted the punch mean the one who receive the blow start moving too early.

>>2873302
doing a bigger project currently

since YouTube can't replace video
I only uploaded some half done animation to Vimeo

Any Belgium student that studied/are studying at La Cambre here ? I would like to ask some questions about the passing exam

>>2875976
last punch frames should be faster

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first time animating ever

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did this a while back

>>2875850
it should benoted how hard it is to get into gobelins in the first place, it's almost like a grad school really, many if not most of the students have either already done an arts degree, have industry experience or in many cases simply had to apply repeatedly for 2 or 3 years after school while attending ateliers etc, it's not very common to get in right out of highschool, so the people going in are already the cream of the crop.

>>2876143
Those speed lines make it kinda disorienting.
But still, it looks pretty slick.

>>2874357
man thats a pretty severe anterior pelvic tilt.
also that hair looks very weird, it shouldnt move like that.

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I'm new to /ic/ and was hoping for critique. I'm making a 2d game with some friends and they put me in charge of sprites and animation. Does anything about this look off or like it could be improved?

>>2876522
to add to this, I probably should have mentioned I have no idea what I'm doing. I know traditional art, but animation is totally new to me

>>2876522
she's so cute! the cycle itself is good, very bouncy and spirited! However, maybe try to add a little more bounce to her bangs? The way she's moving, I feel like they would be bouncing up and down more. Otherwise keep up the good work!

>>2876522
Tell your friends to suck your balls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXYoD7wfOs

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>>2873299
nice dubs~
I don't have a devoted art blog on tumblr, but I do post my art there => https://www.liliss.tumblr.com
If you don't want to have to sort through memes, you can find my art much more easily on my Patreon => https://www.patreon.com/liliss

thanks for asking!

>>2876522
blog?

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>Just want to learn animation
>Don't know if my drawing skills are sufficient enough to do so

This is where I'm at in a technical sense.

I just want to quit drawing and start animating, but I have no idea if I'm good enough to switch from that to something else.

Does animation teach artistic skills like perspective/foreshortening?

I feel very lost on how to achieve successful foreshortening aside from feeling everything out.

This is what I'm currently drawing like.

I have great difficulty achieving what I want to in my art because of my total lack of skill retaining design ideas once I get to actually drawing. Should I get over this hump, or should I go ahead and start animating/drawing?

I don't know how to attractively warp perspective for a viewer.

>>2877086
I have a strong feeling that I'm just not ready to totally drop drawing in perspective.

There are so many questions that I have to ask myself that I've yet to even think of. Until I can make a good, convincing pose from imagination, I believe it's silly to try and animate such a thing.

Welp, this was totally useless. At least I've realized it's dumb to walk away when I'm no master. I'm glad I double clicked my own art.

>>2875976
add a pie

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>>2877086
You'll be there soon. Just don't twist bodies like that.

His legs can't be both turned to that side if his body is facing the opposite side.

>>2876884
Thanks! this is the kind of details I'm looking for. All my partners on this project mean well but they're just patronizing me by saying it looks amazing.

>>2876910
is a blog something I should have? I don't really have much of a portfolio yet worth showcasing.

>>2877262
>is a blog something I should have
It's up to you. It's just a meme to ask for a blog.

>>2877262
I would recommend it. It's always good to get your work out into the world as much as you can.
Also, I agree with this guy >>2876888 , you shouldn't give away your hard work for free, even if it is your friends. Have they promised you any kind of compensation for what you're doing?

>>2877431
Exposure after the idea guy of the group takes all the hypothetical money for themselves having done absolutely nothing along with everyone else on the 'team' I'm sure. Been there before.

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Super new to animation and video making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAxlDH4p4KY

Also I need a a drawing pad or something, I bet it's a lot faster than using my mouse lol.

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>>2877441
Shit like that makes me want to die. What's a good game without the art? Absolutely nothing, that's what. "Exposure" is never enough, even if the game does well and your work is seen by hundreds. You're still left without much to show for it.

Are you the anon that posted that video? What happened with you?

>>2877262
Also, dunno if it's intentional, but her running feels floaty, like she's only using her toes. You might wanna emphazise a little more the stepping frames

Heres my sad plug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbAysauGnMc

Any tutorials on like sound design and making it not sound like shit?

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a tiny thing i did for fun today. it's nothing really, but I thought you all may like it

>>2877431
the game is being made by a group of friends who have fulltime day jobs, all doing their role for free. None of us are really professionals. we all signed a form declaring that whatever we make for the game is our own though, in case we decide to back out.

>>2877088
lol poor guy. What do you have against snails anon?
>>2877454
Animation is meh but you're doing some interesting shit. It's cool.
>>2877593
Animation is newgrounds which isn't necessarily bad, probably good enough for making internet videos if that's your goal. Voice work is noice, better than what people usually do.
>>2877673
cute

>>2877454
>Using a mouse to animate
>Not just learning how to draw on paper first.

Waste of time.

>>2869753
wow that's better animated than most of the actual show.

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Can you guys name/link any animators/storyboard type artists you follow? It's usually helpful to me to look at their work both when I try stylizing and just when I need some inspiration.

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ball exercise

>>2869009
Super fuckin great
If you ever wanna collab with another Toonboom person I'd be down!
I just have to get harmony again

Old Animation I made
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/669268

>>2878451
It's too slow when coming close to the ground before the first bounce and too slow after just hitting the floor as well.

is paying for the basic version of toonboom worth it or should i torrent adobe animate or something?

>>2878040
imaishi
yamada naoko
kazumasa ishida

or check out sakugablog articles analyzing storyboards.

for styles look at the works and their staff from a-1 pictures, gainax and trigger.

>>2869009
i love this so much

Testing out some keyframes for a lipsync/animation test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Fjloi0PZw

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Pretty amazing what they are doing in flash

>>2882261
Considering how much I hate drawing in flash, this is amazing.

Animate's a bit better though.

>>2869009
was fun

voice are fine

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>>2882307

>>2865104
Like the colours anon, what program did you use?

>>2882307
blog?

somebody gib tutorial/references for hair blowing in the wind

>>2882261
wow what the fuck, No. They're trolling.

>>2883224
Ankama has always used flash for everything from games to their animated series.

>>2882261
what episode is this from?

>>2882378
TVPaint, for the whole thing

>>2865104
That looks really good! Awesome work anon!

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Working on this lipsync/acting animation.

>>2883264
he has to be using some esoteric moon wizard plugins to make flash do that kind of shit

>>2861466
You could make his faux mullet shorter, or make it blow over his ear

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>>2858273
Has anyone figure out how to scrub zoom? I have been meaning to set this shit on my Wacom pen, and the manuel is no help

What do you guys think about "style" in terms of appeal vs actual writing/humor.

Would simple style of animation like peppa pig be enough if there's an interesting story/characters or is it too basic and would only appeal to 5 year olds?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC8lKN1d-c8

>>2885338
You can tell a good story with even the most basic art and animation. However the stuff a lot of people wanna do is world building and visual storytelling, that is difficult to do without good art or animation. But if you're relying mostly on voice acting then you can probably get by if the actual content and performances are good. For example someone told a decent story here and they only used basic shapes to tell it. Or look at don hertzfeldt's (however you spell it) films. They are fairly simple in their animation but are very affective in conveying a mood and telling a story. If the focus isn't art you'll just have to think of a creative way to get around that an appeal to people in another way.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hEHosc8_zYs

>>2885344
Hnmmm, you've given me a lot to think about thanks

>>2885344
It's a shame people never watch his other stuff because of the shadow that rejected casts over it.

>>2885344
Well the design of the characters itself is simple but all of the other effects were done by hand with film tricks so it's not like there wasn't some advanced understanding of special effects.

>>2885344
>>2886476
I mean Don Herzfeldt.

>>2885338
Form should glorify content. Seeing a war epic conveyed through fingerpainting or a kids fanfiction in hyperrealistic digital would contrast and ultimately cause humor. This is also why a lot of webcomics are so easy to cringe at--the maker is unaware that the form isn't properly conveying the message, and the viewer knows this.

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>>2884470

Progress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQRZvUm31TI

>>2887071
It's kinda hard to notice the mouth movement to me, it doesn't' feel like hes really speaking. Maybe due to scratchy lines and not being able to really see the teeth/tongue seperation?

>>2886476
>>2886867
I'm trying to figure out a style of animation I could do on youtube that I could make in a week or two. Usually animation in real form takes me a month or more to put out just a minute off, and with that kind of lenght it's not really viable. But if style is dropped and simplified i'm thinking it's possible to do (sorta like explosm).

>>2858273
Egoraptor interviews yoh and hiroyuki.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8APtGhFys&t=301s

>>2888274
Holy fug I gotta watch this. Yoshinari is my hero

>>2887071
I really don't get inflection of his voice. no one would say that sentence like that in an normal kind of context. Like is this someone practicing an audition or something? Idk just doesn't feel like it makes a believable scene even from the start, there's nothing to go on.

is 3d ok to post here, or should i fuck off to a forum or something?

>>2889735
Post in /3
not here

>>2889735
3d animations are fine imo, just make sure its animated or somethin' ya know?

>>2889735
They're fine, a couple people posted in the past. You probably wont get any feedback on the 3D part of it (like modeling or textures) but the same principles of animation ought to apply even in 3D so people here should be able to help you out. (If they feel like it tho since 90% the stuff here just gets ignored)
>>2889737
/3/ is even slower than /ic/. It's pretty much a dead board.

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Do you own animation table?

How do you use pegbar on top or down?

>>2890955
Holy shit this is neat!

>>2890568
kek

>>2890955
excellent, blog?

>>2891004
>Disney animators all work on bottom pegs.

Makes me wonder, does Disney still do 2D animation at all nowadays?

As for your question, I once tried getting into animation but I got stopped because I just wasn't gud enough at drawing, I made my own light box and my own special pegbar out of a wooden strip and two dowels, that worked well with the cheap paper that I used, I used it on top most of the time for no particular reason.
I also used those special three-peg pegbars, because the school I went to had a special perforator for those, still worked the same for me.

I simply didn't work fast enough to really benefit from a bottom peg-bar orientation, so I guess it didn't matter, I would take a whole lot of time flipping through pages to determine whether the animated bits would flow well enough because I didn't have the experience to see right away whether a movement 'works'.

Don't bother too much with these kind of things, the important part is that you draw a lot.

>>2858273
Toniko is streamin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAwY8LQSTn0

>>2893339
its over

>>2877980
>waste of time
>posting about it to waste more time

>>2892738
>does Disney still do 2D animation at all nowadays?

Of course but not traditionally but cintiqs with toonboom

>>2893948
Toonboom is for gaylords and females. Tvpaint is god_mode.exe and manly af.

>>2894011
Pencil, paper and lightbox still tops any software.

>>2894011
this anon speaks the truth

>>2894011
>Toonboom is for gaylords and females

That's why Disney uses it

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>>2894069

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wow these threads have slowed down a lot

>>2894203
Did you make that? Really good stuff.

should i start by storyboarding a whole scene or should i try to do a short action and finish it

So I fucked up and posted it in a different thread.
>>2894472
Any critique welcome.

>>2867603
Same here, sometimes I'll end up asking people for ideas on drawthreads on /b/. Got simple stuff like a chicken flying or a cat swishing it's tail.

>>2867603
>>2894678
>tfw used to have lots of ideas before I started learning how to draw/animate
>tfw improving but get less ideas now
Idk what it is

>>2894693
The more you realize you don't know the more you fear trying new things and getting them wrong. That's what happened to me anyway, I struggle with it every day

>>2858273
Hey guys i need help with my tvpaint program i have no idea what the fuck is up with it it keeps crashing right as i open and i have no idea how to fix it
if anyone remembers me from an earlier thread then im sorry for being repetitive but i left the thread and didn't bother to check back on it if anyone actually answered me in that earlier thread on a seperate note thank you and thank you to the person to help me out again in advance

>>2894698
The realest shit. My old work was ambitious as hell, but horribly executed. Recent work is much stronger, but safer, and mundane.

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First walk cycle.
How do you guys keep your shit consistent? This is like juggling a dozen balls.

>>2895162
That's why you work with keyframes.
First, you find the 'extremes' of a movement, draw those out and then you add the extra frames inbetween to smooth it out.
Something like that.

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>>2894210
thanks

>>2882307
>>2882308
>>2889307
>>2859840
cool

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>>2895413

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>>2895415
this is very awkward, his torso is just sort of fixed in space while his limbs move independently, legs are especially bad.

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>>2895419
I tried to avoid comical flailing but the fall still feels a little too abrupt

>>2895425
Maybe have him reach forwards a frame or two after he starts to fall, it sort of looks like he did it intentionally since he falls so fast

>>2895413
Oh god I already love this character

>>2895413
Oh I didn't realize it was you, the dancing girl doesn't look anything like your other work. You're getting a lot better man I really love this one in particular >>2895425 Keep up the great work!

>>2895425
this is awesome. maybe have him pause for a second longer off balance before falling.
what program are you using for this?

>>2895948
He said he uses hanapen I think. The dev doesn't really work on it anymore and I don't know if it's available for download either. It's also only for macs, no windows version unfortunately.

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Dudes,
Any idea where I can get a fully "prepared" animation scene to test compositing?

What I mean is having all the keys/tweens labeled (or a time sheet for reference) and all the art already cleaned.

The theme doesn't matter, as long as it is well done, at around 12 FPS or above. A dynamic scene would be preferable, to really emphasize the transition between frames.

Being colored is a welcome bonus, but I will need the uncolored version too.

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Tfw made it.
I just got offered a job lads

>>2896917
Everyone gets offered jobs by idea guys who have no intention of paying, bud.

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>>2896921
It's from a real studio pal

>>2896917
>>2897071
Congrats anon! Anymore info you could give us like how you got the job, what kind of studio it is, what kind of animation you do, etc? Also any work you can post here?

>>2896917
Kudos to you man. Let's hope you'll avoid any burnout !

>>2896917
Really? where? Also, congrats anon!

>>2897100
Thanks, yeah I hope not too

>>2897078
I saw it advertised online and applied. Then I was given a week to do an animation test for them. It's hand drawn 2D

>>2897071
Lab Zero?

None of you are ever going to make it.

>>2897674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIi_-IvUSLc

>>2897674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5F6tMmC4hA

It hurts.

>>2894698
>>2894996
For sure, never be afraid to fail no matter how good you think you get other wise you will never get better

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Hey guys, idk if this belongs in the QTDDTOT thread but I feel like this one is appropriate, if not pls excuse me.

Toonboom Harmony VS TV Paint 11,

Which is better? Why or why not would you prefer one from another?

>>2897772
>ToonBoom
Better features such as:
- camera tools
-tweening tools
-compositing tools
-effects tools such as motion blur or glow
-somewhat easier to use UI
>some 3d features
>TV Paint
Mostly just better coloring and drawing tools.

If you're going for a mostly frame by frame traditional type of animation then Tv paint is probably better. If you wanna do more special effects stuff and tweening then toonboom would be better.

>>2897777
The only problem with tv paint is you can't upscale because is raster

Oi peeps
What are you all using for animation except photoshop?

Are there any good animation forums or communities out there? I'm getting kinda tired of these threads since they're 99% bullshit and only a handful of people actually animate.

>>2897964
r/animation has a discord server, its eh. And theres Newgrounds

I just jumped to a tablet and want to do hand-drawn but am completely lost in terms of software. What's the best option for something basic, intuitive, cheap (or easy to pirate) for Mac?

I have photoshop but I can't get my head around how to use it for animation

Who are some great western animators?

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>>2898383
give hanepen a shot https://mega.nz/#!ksMjTALK!IgLAGHqx-PGm-hhYd_pJLwaBNOsGyRg5EcL9Ses5uhc

>>2898383
Oh and torrent Clip Studio Paint EX.

>>2898383
>>2897952
TVPaint

>>2899242
thanks for the link. Unfortunately theres it wont let me make any new projects though. tried using the provided templates like the readme mentioned, but nothing seems to work

>>2899243
Can't find it for Mac

>>2899247
No TV Paint for Mac either...

Should I just give Flash a chance?

>>2899242
nooooooice

>>2899574
come on dude...
http://mac-torrents.com/clip-studio-paint-ex-1-5-4/

http://imgur.com/a/NDyVW

Here's a thing i did last month on paper. tried going with stepbystep animation.

Sorry for no link here, the .gif is a bit too heavy to upload directly on chan

>>2867679
Im poor but he is the person to learn from for this

>>2901176
That scared expression is great. Brilliant sense of character. Keep at it!

>>2899242
is hanepen compatible with sierra?

>>2901673
it should be but i keep running into the problem
>>2899545
mentioned

>>2901136
>you spin me round

>>2901886
idk if that's the same mega link that I got hanepen from, but mine is working in el capitan, are you using the .command file to launch hanepen to change to date to 2015?

>>2901673
Yes, all the gifs I posted here were made in hanepen on sierra.

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>>2899574

i've been having trouble finding .tors for Tv Paint 11, i've searched for em' but i'm coming short.

>>2903581

I'm having the same problem, i have a Mac aswell.

I have a bunch of TV Paint files i can't access since i use it at school. Can you convert TV Paint files into ToonBoom files?

>>2903581
there isn't one, nobody's cracked it yet, when you buy it they send you like a USB stick that has to be plugged and shit, it's a little too niche for anyone to really bother working on exploiting it.

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>>2904014

It's kinda like what Reason started doing with their software. It sucks but until some brave soul *or Cheng Liu* cracks TV Paint, Mac users won't be able to use it.

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>>2871353
whats your handle/name?

>>2904014
The usb security dongle is so annoying. I gave up and bought it so I have to use one, it hogs a whole usb port for no reason and I only have 2 on my mac so with the dongle + my tablet theres no free ports. I know I could use a extension thing but that adding even more crap to my setup.

tldr someone hurry up and crack it so I can stop using this damn dongle

I have a meeting with an agent from Nickelodeon in ten days.

Someone choose the bgm for my animation reel

>>2904617
How long is it? What kind of work do you have?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWHadiqAd2M

>>2904355

THIS

BASED CHENG LIUUUUUUU WHERE R UUUU