DRAW THREAD: "CANDY GIRL" BY NEW EDITION

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Posted the old version in the last thread, I added some more stuff and did the lineart, still have to add the camp stuff and fix some things with the sword.

>>2842151
How do you come up with your palettes?

>>2842268
your mom helps me

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don't know where else to post this. study done on a nsfw pic.

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>>2842449
ref

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painted this for a girl i want to like me

>>2842151
Nice, anywhere you post? I'm curious to see more

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I want to paint some simple landscape.

>>2842540
just use some ref, you won't have to copy them, just use them to know what things look like

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>>2842118

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>>2842572
Yea, I just want to practice colors and backgrounds because they often are too saturated and shit. I hope this time I'll make it right.

>>2842571
I'm not really sure why you continue to post. I've seen your pieces on here for probably around a year and it's the same two figures with the same issues every time. Anons have pointed them out to you time and time again, yet you just continue to draw the same two woman with perhaps slight variations away from the DotA theme.

What is it you're after or expecting? I'm genuinely perplexed.

>>2842633
I expect actual critique, not some idiot blabbing about subject matter

>>2842571
muddy tones, stiff figures, and plastic shading

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>>2842585
Updato

>>2842665
go watch some bob ross videos to learn about how to paint clouds

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What do you think? Also first time posting on /ic/. I didn't know this place exists.

>>2842675
I think you need to not avoid hands/feet/head and work on your comparison measuring.

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>>2842679
Some ancient male statues has really big body and small head.

This is another drawing.

>>2842681
annnnddddd? what they fuck does that have to do with what I just told you? the arm looks deformed and not in a correct prospective way
you also manages to fuck up on the Judith study

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>>2842685
Is it really that bad ;_; i just start drawing actually.

>>2842692
it's not, but ic thinks they have to tear everything apart instead of giving actual advice

>>2842648
But you've been given critiques over and over again and you haven't even attempted to apply any of them. People have echoed my sentiments in previous threads and "babbling about subject matter" is completely relevant, as you've been told to leave your comfort zone of two lifeless, ill proportioned women, staring abjectly at the observer multiple times.

The poses are always the same and always incredibley stiff, you pillow shade with no defined source of light which makes every picture flat, the women always have the same expressionless face. Draw something else.

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>>2842118
there will be more fur and details of course, but is there anything wrong with anatomy or perspective?

>>2842796
yeah holy shit her right arm
it shriveled up

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Woke up and did a color study uwaah
>>2842151
This is pretty sick, man.

>>2842815
nice job anon! if you can really see colors this well, then i envy you.

>>2842815
How do I get on your studying level?
How long did this take you too?
What was your longest study?

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WIP (I think) Oil paint study of a leg on cardboard. Im pretty new to oil paints so id appreciate all sorts of comments.
I know i need to make the lower part look a bit more finished...

>>2842859
out of proportion, learn how to draw first

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reposting from old thread

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>>2842118
forgot i hadn't finish this one
any feedback?

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>>2842815
Seconding this >>2842854

Finally jumped into digital this Jan and just realised how long it takes me to render. This took 5-6 hrs, most of which was blending. Maybe watching speed paintings fucked up my expectations or I'm just getting adjusted to the tablet.

Also did you move from doing greyscale to colour works/studies or doing them at the same time? I know values>colour but would it be useful/counter-productive to do them at the same time?

Cheers.

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dumping two, been doing these for now.
1/2

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>>2842934
2/2

>>2842935
>>2842934
Fucking noice, love that spooky vibe

>>2842827
Thanks bud, I think properly identifying the temperature of the light and exaggerating hues is working out for me, it's fun at least.
>>2842854
About an hour and a half, maybe closer to two, I don't know what my record is but I remember taking a long time on still lives and shit when I first started. I also don't know what my level is but have some questions you want answers to and then get to work.
>>2842899
You can do them at the same time yeah, learn how you want to learn. In my opinion if you want to accelerate in either or it's best to keep them separate in the sense that you should do a single study intent on learning about value/form and then do another single study on color and it's can of worms. You'll save yourself the frustration of trying to juggle a hundred things AND learn at the same time.

Also I don't know exactly how you work but it's really important to make a rigid distinction between your block-in stage and your rendering stage. Break everything down into major and minor shapes and then flesh them out once you've placed them all in the right spot.

>>2842151
Seconding blog request, this looks great to me
These type of paintings (or whatever it is, maybe not exactly a painting since it has lineart?) are pretty much what I want to get good at. But a few times I read you should get good at drawing first then try to paint, I've never even colored anything, but not even sure that is true

>>2842965
Ruan Jia sucked at drawing but was great at painting. So you can go for it if you want.

>>2842963
Do you draw before you block in or just get to blocking in?

>>2842970
Usually just go straight into blocking in with shapes, yeah. Technically still drawing at least according to Richard Schmid but if I want to practice painting I wouldn't do any line work.

If you really want to hone your sense of proportion and all that it's probably best to draw everything out but I'm lazy and just like diving in.

>>2842934
this one is a bit too dark. maybe bring up the values so its a little more readable.

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How do I make this more interesting?

>>2842997
Give me something to focus on, a story. I wander the whole thing wondering why I should care about tents.

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abstract painting for a friend

>>2843000
I think this tells more about your attention span.

>>2843000
Yeah completely agree with this. Theres nothing interesting going on here
>>2843015
No, I don't know why youd even say this. If you dont have anything interesting to say, dont say it

>>2842997
Just need to make the lighting and perspective work. Tents look photobashed and out of place, there's no atmospheric light influencing the skyscrapers

>>2843020
The tents are clearly just more detailed than everything else, anon. Stop using buzzwords.

>>2842879
This looks good imo but are you going to add any background? Or more details to the character?

>>2843038
Do you think I should?

>>2842571
the same "demon women" bullshit over and over and over and over again. Porn star, bland faces/expressions, the "sexy" outfit you'd find in a spencers gifts, always thrown in some setting that makes them look super imposed. Multiple light sources. STIFF AS FUCK poses. Shit rendering to the point where you make hair look like tapered rolls of clay.

Like another anon said...

DRAW SOMETHING ELSE.

>>2843020
Well the idea was to make everything else look detailed too, but it looks like shit and I don't think I'll continue

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I drew this for the daily sketchathon

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Just handed this in for a class

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Stuff I did

>>2843198
Are you in art school?

>>2843411
A crappy fine arts school, planning on taking an illustration course once I graduate

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>>2843410

>>2843528
Nice, ref?
Really like the lighting and the way it's painterly.

>>2842460
Big mistakey, jakey jakey!.

>>2843009
Uhh, it certainly is abstract. Is it abstracted from a "ref" or "muh feels"!

>>2842997
Homeless rape pit

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I think the fire looks bad, but I don't know how to fix it. Maybe I should just remove it completely?

Other crit welcome

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>>2842796
>>2842800

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finished this. im better understanding coaxing the impression of light out of my paintings.

>>2844271
Does this way of painting work in digital? I would have to pick a new color every time though right?

>>2844271
work on your composition, and after the 50th time you should start trying to make your subject a little more interesting

>>2844275
im just gonna paint these apples while i've got them though. im working on another painting that is this composition but filling the canvas more. I really want to do a painting of cheese and bread. I like apples but my favorite food is cheese and bread.

>>2844274
I can't speak to that. Digital is the reverse of traditional painting. In digital since it is viewed on a screen that is lit the goal is to make the dark areas seem as dark as possible, and the light and color to not stand out too much.

That's why Ruan Jia's paintings work. for the most part they are dark and mid-tones, and the color and light are sparse and very vibrant.

I think personally if you did some studies of Rembrandt's work it would help with your digital paintings a lot because his paintings always have lighting similar to what digital painters today use. Sparse light, and mostly dark.

>>2844293
>I can't speak to that.
but i did anyway lol. take my advice with a grain of salt since im not a digital painter, i just look at it every once in a while and make observations of what works and what doesn't.

>>2844274
>pick a new color

what is using a palette and using a blendy brush?

>>2844317
Right, I completely forget about using a palette. I've never worked traditionally with paints so I often feel like I have an infinite palette. Also blendy brush? What's that?

>>2844334
>I've never worked traditionally with paints so I often feel like I have an infinite palette
You can still limit a palette in digital. Use swatches instead of the sliders and mix the colors yourself. For the most part color theory in traditional applies to color theory in digital.

>>2843798
It seems to me that the arms to head ratio is kind of off, it looks a bit like a fish eye perspective, I like the details though

>>2844457
How do I get as good as you

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warmup

>>2844202
that lighting is awful

>>2844464
Now render it.

>>2844464
You're not conceptualizing forms in 3D space correctly, leading to 'clipping'. It's a problem not only in this piece, but in practically all of them.

-Left girl's forearm clips into right girl's waist/pelvis
-Left girl's breast clips into right girl's ribcage/abdominals
-Both girls are drawn with their thighs and knees closed, but somehow right girl fits in between left girl's thighs.

Perspective is off too. Bed implies a certain eye level and station point, but all parts of both girls are drawn as if everything is the eye level. On both girls the calves are drawn as if they're at eye level, but the pelvis is drawn that way too, and the ribcages, and the heads, etc.

Right girl is looking over left girl's shoulder.

You need to start constructing from the ground up, rectangular prisms for everything. Draw them all so that they make sense in perspective, and the horizon stays consistent. Draw through the rectangles so that they don't clip into each other. I suggest learning blender or some other 3D program, making a basic manikin with box forms, build bones so that it's poseable, then duplicate and pose them as needed. Using these as refs will solve perspective and clipping problems, and is probably worth your time considering how samey your content is, and the problems you have.

Stop drawing women as plastic manikins. Flesh squashes, muscles flex, gravity exists, etc. You have several points of contact where you can show form changes from pressure: the thigh, the butt, and especially that one breast mentioned earlier. It's probably worth your time to pause simple lit porn and do studies - it looks like you learned to draw by copying airbrushed solo pinups.

>>2843798
If we're looking down on him, the fire should rise to use, not go "up" arbitrarily. We're looking at a fire from above not from the side.

Hands and forearms are super tiny.

>>2842576
Shading looks sloppy, try rendering around the shapes of the face a bit better.

>>2844464
this is so boring.

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Judging by most of the images, I'm thinking maybe I'm out of my depth posting here. Nevermind.

Typing this, I'm starting to think 'Whats the point posting these?', I can see where I need to improve. My images are mainly studies, no stylisation or whatever so theres nothing really to talk about. This is a jar. It took a few hours, maybe 90 minutes. I liked trying to draw the lighting and found that white (or no colour/shading) was just as valuable as dark when shading. The jar top is pretty awful, miss-shaped and all. The 'brush' strokes in the shadow should be blended i guess but I kinda like the look (though the separate parts of the shadow should be stroked in the same direction).

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>>2844618
These are caltrops. I can't seem to get the angles right on each spoke. They seem to look right when stood up but if they were to roll over, the upmost spoke would be pointed off center. It shouldn't do that. How do I draw it right? I guess I need to look at some toy jacks. (See what I mean about 'why post these'?).

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>>2844624
This is a badly drawn adventurer getting knocked over by a somewhat better drawn 'Mimic'. I'm actually quite pleased with this, despite its lack of quality, because its the first scene I've drawn and it didn't turn out too bad. I'd like to try adjusting perspective and avoid the 'side scrolling' kind of view this currently has.

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>>2844629
And finally one that might be easier to comment because it shows a bit more personality. I love this guys face. He's just some guy who donned a jumpsuit and stuck a few abrasive pads on his joints. He's starting to regret his decision to fight crime. He originally had a pad on his forehead, too, but I decided it looked like he had a specific intention for it, like he'd thought it through. He hasn't. So I got rid of the head pad.

Maybe I should come back with some actual finished pieces.

Feel free to draw over and repost these images to show me how to correct posture, lighting, ect.

Sorry if this has shit up your thread. I'm not native here.

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Need crits pls

>>2844642
muddy tones

>>2844646
But how do I fix that? Use a harder brush? Brighter colors? Please elaborate.

>>2844553
>>2844453
thanks both. I hardly ever draw/study males and I think it shows. Also it did cross my mind to draw the fire from above, but honestly I had no idea how to portray such a thing. More perspective practice probably.

>>2844648
I wouldn't use muddy to describe it. But it is kinda bland. There isn't much variation in saturation. And the sky draws attention because it is the most saturated. It is also has sharper marks than the ground. Ground marks are blurry. Post your reference image

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>>2844683

Yeah, I agree. I was zoomed out too much when I drew the grass, and I didn't notice it was blurry.

>>2842151
i love this but something about it annoys me and it's the giant swords in the background. i think it's lazy because i've seen a lot of people just scribble in ''t'' shaped stuff like crosses or swords in the background but it really doesn't make the picture look more interesting, they look out of place to be honest.

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>>2844462
being able to copy a picture isn't anything noteworthy :(

>>2844629

Not gonna lie, the subjects look like shit but the scene itself is set. You conveyed a little bit of depth in the window bars. The mimic has convincing detail on a relatively minimal form. You did what you wanted to do. The action is happening.

Now to the meat of the matter: For the love of god, anatomy and gesture drawing please. The adventurer looks like ass. The tongue looks like ass. The viewer can't see where the floor ends and the wall begins. Study the elements you want to emulate in the drawing and you'll bring everything else up to the quality of the mimic, and then everything altogether up to an even better quality.

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I finally made the clip studio brush exactly like my SAI brush.
However I also remembered how slow and tedious my own rendering style is.
Goodbye, strange creature

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its a mess

>>2844888
If it isn't noteworthy then why do you suck at copying ?

>>2845116
Looks kinda like a thylacine. Very nice face.

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Okay. I hope it's looking better now. I tried search for some timelapses about clouds, but most of them was shit. If anyone have any suggestion about it, please, tell me.

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>>2844202
>>2844498
>>2842800
>>2842800
>>2842800

>>2845362
up the contrast

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>>2844271
looks dope man continue to paint!

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A study with some LegoLegins characters, first time drawing without and form of lines.

Tell me how i do

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I think im getting better at those.
Dont mind the firewood

>>2845136
is this futuristic version of Minsc?

>>2845551
I've seen people draw like this and wonder how it comes out like this.
Is it a gestural approach or something?

>>2845609
to get that effect? yeah entirely. helps if you stand up

>>2845631
Is it a result of contours or are you just unable to do fine line work? I've done drawing standing up before and it's difficult to control the pencil. A lot of shoulder work.

>>2845631
And also, ofc, the big format. thats 100x70, it helps you.. loosen up i guess

>>2845635
yeah, its a different thing. taking time to adjust. and also what you see is my search of the right angles. you can see the right hand was all fucked up b4

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almost baked, gotta detail and texture, any serious feedback really appreciated

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>>2845362
>>2845415

>>2845653
she looks mangy... usually furry art is a bit more groomed.

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>>2845653
fur doesn't just go everywhere, they're divided into chunks and they're usually cohesive

>>2845662
>>2845656
right. thanks

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how's it coming along?

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>>2844888
about done with this.

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Drew some shit

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>>2845809

>>2844888
How much do you measure when drawing from ref. I've never been good at likenesses and making my drawing resemble the ref exactly. I'm not sure if I'm symbol drawing, not measuring enough, sucks.

>>2845138
lol did he hit a nerve and diss your whole body of work when he said that about copying? He never said it wasn't hard, dumbass

>>2845777
work on tightening up your edges

>>2845829
I mostly just eyeball it but once I have the basic shapes down I do a quick check, use different parts of the subject as a point of reference (forehead is the height of the nose, lips are as wide as two eyes together, etc.)

But even then I notice major differences between the reference and my piece, all the subtleties I missed add up.

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Critique?

>>2844271
have you tried using a wider brush for your background?

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Finished as quickly as I could, I have a lot of line uncertainty that I wish I knew how to better address

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Just finished this one tn

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How's my back anatomy?

>>2846522
Is that a self portrait

>>2846524
No, but I wish it was
Either one of them tbqh

>>2845645
Good work on picking a very dynamic angle. Think his heads to thin. Shall try to redline

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>>2846586
>>2845645
Hope this helps

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something i did for giggles
Jesus from "he will not divide us" stream
>inb4 weeb

>>2846807
This is *crosses arms* NIIICE
However I think the left arm and area of the chest near it are too far to the right, right now he has an unreal amount of back
Other anons can give you better advice probably

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Need a second opinion on the angle /perspective here before I start turd polishing

>>2846843
The left shoulder area needs to be foreshortened some more. Looks dislocated from the rest of his body as of now.

>>2842997
Please reduce the sharpness of the buildings in the distance. Also desaturate the trees a bit more and add some atmosphere (mist) to them.

>>2846848
Which left are we talking about here?

>>2846807
Get rid of that portion where the hair breaks up. It's creating a tangent with his non-existent trapezius

>>2846843
He looks too calm to be fighting.

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>>2845653
>>2845656
>>2845662

>>2846877
damn, cant believe i missed that, thanks for the support guys
>>2846837

>>2846627
>My point is that if it isn't noteworthy then why do you have a hard time doing it?

lol am I being trolled right now or are you really this autistic
Fine I'll spell it out for you

Not noteworthy =/= not hard

In the same sense that you manage to bust a nut 6 times in an hour to hentai, seems hard enough but it's nothing noteworthy and everyone just thinks you're a fuckn weirdo

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>>2842118
Crit plz

>>2846886
The fur on her ears and chest looks decent and follow a growth-pattern (sorry if that expression was a bit off, my English is bleh) but the rest of the fur looks like... someone tossed a bunch of shaved off hair all over her!

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>>2846899
Sry, low res here

>>2846905
Yeah, I can see it now. What about lighting, face and tail?

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>>2846848

I worked up a skeleton and the upper body actually seems fine, the hind deltoid could be a bit pushed back but rather it's the foot that's wrong. I'd appreciate any input or clarification.

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>>2846886
i fiddled with this. tried to do my best furry artist impression.

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did more to this. felt angry tonight. wanted to make something pretty.

>>2847271
Why were you angry

>>2847272
because women

>>2847102
to texture you don't need to fill all the space with the same texture

you can sugest it, work on the fur on some parts only, leave most of it without detial
don't dare use a shortcut-brush, looks horrible

>>2847271
edges are kinda bad

>>2847277
brian, the more you post, the more you become a lolcow.
>shitty artist
>will not take criticism
>dunning kruger to the fucking MAX
>thinks he is better than ruan jia
>now also added, is a r9k level faggot

beautiful. never stop giving

>>2847301
jokes on you i think im shit
>>2847296
neat

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forgot smaller rez, I fucked up on the yellow anons RIP

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still angry

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did more to this. trying to get better control of my brush.

>>2847494
you've literally been painting apples and pears for the last 5 months.

are you a fucking retard m8?

>>2847502
what've you been painting the last 5 months?

>>2847503
fucking 3dmodeling,animatioins,textures,landscapes.

you're a fucking drone who just does the same fucking dumb ass shit non stop. you're stuck in the mud like a broken wagon going no where you fucking nigger.

>>2847507
wow you're a regular renaissance man. where's your work in this thread?

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>>2847511

>>2847515
okay. you wanted my attention and you got it for a few seconds. congrats anon.

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been working on this for the last 2 weeks. non of you come close to my skills.

>>2847519
wow you have an attention span? impressive.

>>2847522
When was this meme born?
I've been a few months without into /ic/
It took me a long time to get that proko one.

>>2847494
Lovely still life, but that bakground is awful and very lazy

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>>2847364
The purple glow is nice, but color distracts you from keeping your values intact. Work in grayscale for a while.

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Pretty please, I want to be a smut artist, any tips on how to make cel shading work so it doesn't look so artificial and lifeless?
Is warm desatured light vs cool saturated shadows a good approach?

>>2848242
1 thats not how muscles work
2 your proportions are off
3 step outside actually look how shadows appear
4 this is not cell shading

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>>2848260
Thanks for the reply, but could you be a little more specific?
I know I suck at shading, but I dare to say I pay a lot of attention to correct proportion and muscle insertions, and honestly don't see a mistake.

>>2847494
you're getting better, almost saved this one.

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>>2848236
yeah I think you're right, I was going straight for form and fucked my values

>>2848280
he's 100% full of shit. just like most of /ic/.

this whole place is noobs trolling noobs trolling noobs.

>>2848280
nigger thats not how far back the muscle ribs go. you have that shitty lookin elbow bump facing the wrong way. the whole are is just not connected right. nothing in there looks right

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some char/costume designs

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>>2848280
nothing wrong here anon.looks good.

/ic hates good artists. don't get dragged into their stupidity.

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Eye studies. Having a hard time with colour

>>2848464
If the last one is serious, at least keep the belt and boots. If she took one step forward, the spanner would fall out and land on her toes.

>>2846807
Hands are really small compared to everything else

>>2847549
Only last week I think, was a thread about how many hours people grind or something can't remember. The guy who posted the cup did so as an example of how good he had become after 7 years iirc.

>>2847494
Looks cool, but look at those vertical lines on the opening of the big pot as well as on the cloth - never draw against the cross contour lines of the form. You'll break the illusion.

>>2848422
If by "rib muscles" you mean serratus, then it indeed does extend all the way back to scapula. The medial epicondyle surprisingly faces the medial direction.

>>2848467
Thanks.
With the mug, try to think of the mug as a character, think how resentful he is because he has to sit on a plain checkered cloth. He's kinda racist towards square patterns, because he had a rough childhood in the mug factory.
Make up a story like that and it will help you with feeling the form and giving it more life as well as make the process more fun.

>>2848479
last one isn't serious lol I just find it harder to draw female bodies so I wanted a nudey shot for reference when i draw her again later

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posted a wip of this a while ago, finished and delivered to the client today

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advice/critique?

>>2848554
At least attempt the feet. You can't hide them forever

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>>2848566
are you happy now?

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>>2848594
You're doing this for yourself, your own improvement, your own life. You're making yourself happy.
Anyways, this redline isn't for your drawing specifically, but it illustrates my point - draw the feet as a bunch of simple forms held together by the power of gesture.

Draw larger and don't rely on outlines too much. Outlines might be the finished product of your effort, but if it's also in your thought process, your drawing will turn out flat.

>>2847515
good artist copy
great artist steal

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it's been a long time

>>2848495
what i ment is that its not visible from that far in because the bigger muscle (latissumus dorsi) is hiding it...

>>2848550
Well? Was He happy? If thats him, he looks douchy enough to have his own portrair
and definately deserves what he got i mean how much did ya charge?

>>2848787
His dad was the one who commissioned me, but he was very happy with it. Got $175 for it. :)

>>2848841
shiet man, nice. Not the painting that is, but if you can get that for this, u gonna be great artist!
>kinda sarcastic, kinda not

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>Keep getting told to work on my proportion in my figures
>Thought doing that Andrew Loomis square and popping an X would take care of that.

I'm not sure what people mean when they say "work on proportion"

I don't even know how to train it.

Can somebody help me out on this? Pic related. Apparently the proportions are off, but I don't what's wrong with it. I need a red-line to really ascertain what people are talking about.

He's supposed to be 8 heads tall, and 3 heads wide.

>>2848944
Is proportion something I can take care of through careful measuring in perspective?

I always try and stay away from that because it takes away too much thought from my primary focus (the drawing itself), and it makes it even more rigid.

Is it just something that I need to take more into consideration?

>>2848944
It means you don't know how to foreshorten good enough.

>>2848946
>>2848944
Is it something I train through observational drawing? I've completely skipped that in favor of imaginative drawing.

Is proportion the retaining of dimensions in perspective? I'm not exactly sure how to go about doing that. I don't know how to make a cube completely even on all sides. I'm constantly having to feel that out and sort of mentally "eye-ball" it.

>>2848949
Is there a concrete, objective way of foreshortening?

I'm really sort of lost on that, and I'm almost "guessing" in the sense that I'm running both limbs parallel at extremes, and then I'm choosing an in-between mentally.

Do I just draw more people with foreshortened limbs to get better at this?

>>2848961
Perspective, perspective, perspective

Foreshortening is a direct result of perspective as applied to anatomy.

Find the horizon, find your Vanishing Point,start on one end and extend out.

It gets more complicated when the basic shape isn't level with the horizon, but it's fairly similar in application.

>>2845539
is this really yours/the same person who uploaded on surrender@20 the other day

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Repost, crit plz?

>>2849124
I like it, now what? I swear I've seen this post like 5 times now.

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5min thumbs mostly doin narrativr based stuff atm, usin chalky is so fun

>>2849130
now you critique it

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Are there any glaring perspective/form errors in this?

I'm not really concerned about gesture.

>>2849138
Well. Okay. I don't know why you think you need a crit, it looks fine if this is all you're trying to convey. Not sure why there are cracks if there would be one thing to ask.

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>>2849146
Sry was using paint, the torso thing might be the sketch, it's kinda hard to tell with so many lines

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>>2849163
I forgot to mention I moved the model around to make sure what I was drawing was accurate.

I'm using sketch-fab.

Here's a complete study sheet.

>>2849124
>horrible design
>bad palette/colour theory
>feels really unoriginal and stale
>no form
>no practice on how organic form and rigid edges flow
>insert loomismeme.jpg
>been reposting for a day and has no progress
>never gonna make it

>>2849219
I didn't change it, I reposted it cus I got no critique
>>no form
>>no practice on how organic form and rigid edges flow
Elaborate on these plz

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>>2849229
It's really flat and has no solid understanding of structure, instead of a squid arm it looks more like a piece of purple lettuce, try practicing better values and lighting and better lineweight to achieve nicer form

>>2849282
Aye, lad, I'm not the guy you're responding to, but could you help me understand ambient occlusion or point me to resources? Do I need AO in every single thing I make no matter what?

>>2849282
I get what you mean, I have a lot of problems with that, is there something good from the process that I should keep?

>>2848759
i REALLY like your work. Blog?

>>2844618

when seethrough glass has a shadow.

>>2849296
Not really, AO is great if you're going for a dif way to achieve the form like Nurzhan Bekk which would be a good ref to look at, I think he has a gumroad. But overall I think it's mostly observing 3d renders w an AO pass in maya/3ds max and just really checking where the all the mids/shads/highs show its contours

>>2849297
No start over, it's something I learned as a concept artist is to just don't be afraid to just scrap it and start fresh, you'll waste time beating a dead horse so I suggest move on and observe other artists and do some studies that you aim you in the direction of the artist you wanna b familio

>>2849310
Thank you so much, anon, I was very confused. Thanks again, like, a lot, dude.

>>2849314
that will aim you*

>>2849318
you're welcome anon, godspeed

>>2849314
How do you know when you're beating a dead horse though?

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figure drawing from tonight

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Discovered this site today, would love feedback. Looking to become a games concept artist soon...

>>2849339
She looks like a cutie.

>>2849325
You'll learn that with time but for now you gotta take time away from the drawing and or flip it alot and come back, if it looks bad and you've spent too much time on it then you've been beating it down. Also perspective from other artists are a good indicator throughout the process to be let known that you're beating it down

>>2849300
ty anon yaow12.tumblr.com

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I can't for the life of me draw foreshortened limbs, a redline would be much appreciated

>>2849435
Literally just look at refs where they do this pose and draw the outline.
Instant foreshortening.

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>>2849435
Gomen, rotated it

>>2849437
I'm finding that difficult too, guess I'll just have to keep working at it until it looks right

>>2849439
Anyways, the issue with this one is that the forearm looks flat because you showed too much of the bicep. The bicep gets covered up by the forearm since the forearm when bent is in front.

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>>2849442
Good advice, thank you

>>2844553
>>2844664
I disagree with other guy; I think the fire being in a totally flat perspective looks really cool given the medieval subject; a nod to early medieval art. Like something out of the book of Kells or the Liber Scivias. I would even play the stylization of that up, if you take it that way when rendering.

Does anyone know of any good resources on shape theory or maybe just eye construction/facial gesture in general? I'm trying to make eyes for a cute things, and I'm just having the most frustrating time in capturing the energy of the character in their eyes. I can use a ref or look at how some artist I like do it and get it down, but I want to give myself a good general idea on eye construction. The farther I attempt to stylize the less and less I'm able to achieve what I want. If I had a good point for what I'm shooting for it would probably be Disney level gesture with faces.

I don't have anything to currently post, but I'll say I know my stuff in general, I just want to get better at tackling general expressions and facial gesture and I feel weaker than I should when I approach it from imagination/memory.

>>2849439
Anon >>2849442 told you how to fix this particular drawing, but the real mistake is much more general.
You're at the stage where studying anatomy can be even harmful for your learning process. Symbol drawing all the muscles can give you the impression that your anatomy is correct, while all it does is distract you from the fundamentals of perspective, form and gesture.
Learn those before you start applying them to something specific.

>>2848776
Pic related. Faggot.

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>>2849781
whoops

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r8

>>2849817
Your technique is splendid, but your composition is weak -
The way you blurred the flowers and the light areas suggests that the main focal point is elsewhere.
My eyes spent quite a while running about the painting looking for something to focus on, until eventually becoming tired and leaving the painting.
Definitely not the effect you want to instill into your viewers.

>>2849310
>>2849296
>>2849318

Ambient occlusion is the cornerstone of reality, its what pushes objects back and forwards. You need to learn how light interacts with an object in space (form). It has many structures AO is just one of them. You got direct light (light family), core shadows, shadow family, bounce light, ambient occlusion, atmospheric lighting etc...

You HAVE to learn them all if you want a result like

>>2849282

>>2842724
If this won't wake him up to reality NOTHING ever will. It's probably his ego that is the problem. Listen to this gentleman right here and accept where you are right now anon. No one gives a shit anyway. Ultimately you are walking this path alone. If you can't even be honest with yourself you're not cut out for this...

>>2848467
So since you can't figure out yourself what is wrong with his anatomy it's considered flawless? It is far from flawless. You just pointed out that the both of you need to go study anatomy now. This is not how anatomy or shading works. People point out these flaws because they obviously see them not to make themselfes feel better in a narcissistic way. You are not helping. You are just sugarcoating this poor fellow.

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Tried to do something isometric. Does it look okay?

>>2849918
Looks okay desu.

>>2849918

Angles are inconsistent in front and back of truck. Use a ruler.

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Some doodles before I go to bed, night /ic/.

>>2849299
yaow12.tumblr.com

>>2849388
im retarded

>>2849124
Looks too cute for an alien boss creature, look at some bioluminescent squids and take some reference.

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>>2849919
>>2849938

Thanks! I'll be sure to pay attention to the angles as a whole in the next piece I do like this.

Here's another one for some input. Does this cat looks like it fits into the perspective of this scene? I'm not too concerned about it being perfect, but passable.

Also, if anyone has experience drawing lots of cats, let me know if the general anatomy is right. I had to draw this custom angle from a few other different cat perspectives, so I'm not totally sure that it's right.

Thanks a bunch!

>>2850013
you need a better writing process. or at least a more critical and self-aware one. there's nothing clever about this image it screams "internet lulz".

>>2849918
this ones okay but it's just a concept it is kind of demanding elaboration.

>>2850074
>you need a better writing process.
you need to shut up.
there's ton of retards insulting trump with really childishly bad "political art", gay porn, the autist who's been drawing apples for the last X months, and so on, so let the guy draw a fucking cat if he wants.

>>2850112
Whoa whoa - it's okay. It's a perfectly reasonable critique. Though I may be one of the
>retards insulting trump with really childishly bad "political art"
since I've done that before too.

>>2850074
Thanks for the input! You're right; it could use some more elaboration. I'll add some environment & other figures to add to the context.

As for the cat:
> least a more critical and self-aware one
Could you elaborate, perhaps with an example?
> it screams "internet lulz"
Just so you know, I'm perfectly happy with that.

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wip

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did more to this

>>2850316
The proportions of the hands and legs are completely fucked in comparison to the head and torso.

>>2849370
Read the sticky. Get keys to drawing from the book thread and go through the book and then post again.

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finished this study of "Portrait of the Postman"

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>>2850383
It's interesting but the black face looks like you're trying to avoid painting the face altogether, and there is no way to work past that, then making something that has a semblance of a face. A black pit is not a substitute for one. Look up some abstract portraiture artists and be inspired. Jenny Saville, Lucian Freud, Marlene Dumas.

You can do better, Brian.

>>2850462
Were you raped by van Gogh!

>>2850524
No, it was Cezanne

>>2846347
Is this Demoman from TF2? Sweet rendition.

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practicing drapery

>>2850495
>the black face looks like you're trying to avoid painting the face altogether
thats because i am. I've got some ideas for how to make it more interesting. I think a background of different mixed whites and oranges could look nice. its gotta dry though

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Is learning light and shadow just as important as learning how to draw?

Is it the only true way to achieve the feeling of reality/form in a drawing?

I've noticed that in my art I always tank all of the depth I've created through construction when I render incorrectly.

I know the proportions on this are fucked (only ran a gesture, no perspective), but it's a good example of me making everything worse by bothering to shade while being ignorant as to how to really pull it off.

>>2850462
why dont you paint your actual postman instead,

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>>2850594
>Learning drapery from someone's watered down drapery
>Don't even know if that shit is correct

This is stupid.
Please don't do it again.
You're better off using sketch-fab (all of the folds are generated by 3D software, and you can ascertain certain aspects faster.)

https://sketchfab.com/models/deead583a6fb48c6aa43fea5f2936349

>>2850594
>>2850636
Here's some more:

https://sketchfab.com/aberrator2000/collections/armour-clothes

>>2850636
>>2850640
thanks
I'll do my best

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Anything I should work on, also where should I learn to render figures?

>>2850383
brian, do you actually have autism or something

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>>2850594
try something different

>>2850816
>>2850594
Here's another good one if you're not a fan of trying to learn through a picture

https://sketchfab.com/models/7941f1228aad4bc0bcf35e64661fb72e

>>2850750
why do you think i have autism?

>>2850030
I love that wisp of pubic hair. Blog?

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>>2850750
Why does everybody pick on Brian?

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made some edits to this in digital. I'd like to make this on the canvas if it's not too difficult

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did more to this

>>2852063
Podcast when

>>2852068
in a bit, mulling around what i want to talk about in my head

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Is there a point at which "a lot of detail" becomes "too much detail"? Is it even worth to spend a whole hour on a reflection at the end you will probably barely even see?

Also rate if you don't mind, I've been working on this on and off for a few months already.

>>2852086
No. It is worth the time. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, quality over quantity.

>>2852086
Save detail for attention to grab the viewer's eye. Your piece sucks because there is detail everywhere and it irritates the eyes. Where am I supposed to look? How is my eye guided from one area to another?
Real life is detailed, but we don't notice details until we focus or care about what we're looking at

>>2852089
More detail does not equal quality. Most often it's the opposite

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>>2852086
Pretty much what >>2852096 said.
Also, what resolution is that? I don't have enought RAM for something like that.

Mine is a drawing from an autistic friend that I'm painting over to practice my backgrounds.
Will reach his autism level one day.

>>2852086
my dude why are you working in such a low resolution?? a piece like that should be 7000 pixels wide AT LEAST

>>2852096
What if there is really nowhere to look? I mean, the pic is not supposed to have a "history", a focus or anything, it's just a landscape and you can look wherever you want like, like if it was a photograph of real life with all its details. Maybe I'm getting the idea wrong. Thanks for the response.

>>2852114
Looks nice. Your autistic friend will be happy probably.

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more thumbnails from the morning

>>2852096
Also one thing i remembered is that i still have to add some kind of scattering effect so the closer areas stand out more over the farther ones and it doesn't look all the same.

>>2849375
saved

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Doing a little cartoon for a valentimes card.

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>>2852266
Finished, it's quick and dirty but it'll be printed on brown card so it might look nice.

>>2845116
Really nice. Underrated.

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>>2850921
I don't post a lot of guys but here
http://butter7103.tumblr.com/

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rate

t. harry

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Going from realism to cute is hard.
How the fuck do pleats work

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someone make a new draw thread

>>2853182
Try lowering the eye level line to a bit less than the middle of the head.

Lower eyes look cuter.

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>Try and draw porn
>My dick is too hard to think about anything aside from how hard my dick is
>Same reason I can't read the text in the doujins I fap to

How do you guys get past this?

>>2853304
be like me and have low test or whatever the fuck it is so your sex drive is down to minimum levels despite being 20 y/o

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some stuff

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did more to this painting

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Study from an hour ago

>>2853614
I don't really like the composition, but I think the colors look nice. The flower in the vase looks pretty good.

>>2853866
Looks great non, loving the red tone of it.