Improvement Thread - youngin's better than you edition

>>2790709
>cherrypicking edition

>>2790715
>implying you haven't been cherrypicking autist improvements

>>2790709
>front portrait view
>cropped bust shot

You could tell they have no clue how the neck is attacked to the torso and just winged it by attempting to cover up important landmarks but despite that it is painfully evident they used whatever means possible to cover up their lack of fundamentals.

Not to mention face is slightly skewed, no improvement.

>>2790724
>attacked

Fugging phone

>>2790724
neck attachment is fine you dork

>>2790729
post your work.

>>2790729
actually you're right I just drew over it

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>>2790736
dec 2016

>>2790740
>dat thumb
>obligatory borning frontal view portrait
>no expression
>blank thousand yard stare

All the superficial gimmecky rendering and bright lens flare-esque tricks will not save them.

>>2790738

Stiff as a board, figure is out of proportion, hand is fucked beyond belief. How could anyone spend so much time coloring and not notice all those glaring mistakes?

>>2790746
kekkroni, she's still better than almost this entire board and 5 generations later of /ic/ residents

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>>2790744
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>2790749
wew

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18 yr old

>>2790758
>hiding hands

>>2790736
>>2790738
neat, work on your anatomy thou

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14 at the time

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>>2790762
19 now

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is an improvement like this (pic related) possible in such short amount of time?

>>2790752
this is unbelievable to me, he was literally at 0 skill level a year ago
he probably studied nothing but nights and armor all this time

>>2790767
you won't fool me, Artgerm has been drawing for a looong time

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>>2790709
im turning 19 soon
neuroplastickity gon get me boys

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>>2790784
most recent thing i've posted here

>>2790785
>kick in soon

how dare you, you have another 6/7 years left

>>2790740
tfw I actually prefer the left one a little

>>2790709
whats with that fucking signature

>>2790767
That is normal progress, what are you even talking about?

>>2790743
Who dis

>>2790778

who is this? i can't read it cause the res is so low.

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>>2790767
nore like

>>2790940
*more

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Browsing this kind of thread just reminds me I didn't do anything valuable this year...

>>2791419
Me too, but that was kind of my goal.

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>>2790764

living proof that nice rendering and shit taste still make a shitty painting.

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Am I a youngin?

>>2791472
Make your strongest composition and you might get some judgement on that.

>>2790752
when knightposting has good results for once

I think I'm actively getting worse.

>>2790764
i saw your stuff in the level up group and you received a lot of praise already. although you have quite an eye for detail and this piece must have taken you forever, i really don't like how you rendered some parts of the piece. ie; the torso of the guy that's squatting. otherwise, of course you improved. and a lot.

>>2792016
the level up group?

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I'm still shit and haven't improved as much as I've wanted. Gonna have to work harder in 2017.

>>2792082
Don't wait, work harder now.

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Before, 2010

>>2792162
2015

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>>2792165

>>2790724
Some sad person is this insecure and can't be happy for someone improving

>>2790746
please stop its depressing watching an adult be this jealous

>>2790746
I would love, LOVE, to see your masterpieces. Go on anon, we are ALL waiting.

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>>2792171
Here, now fuck off. Stop defending shitty artists just because they employed some lens flare and hyper saturation on their mediocre pieces.

>>2791472
your brushstrokes keep triggering me, absolute beginner rendering techniques

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>>2792196

>>2792196
oh shit! anon delivers!??! :O

>>2792295
polishing turds all year long. gg.

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mario progression

>>2792298
his smile and enthusiasm: gone

>>2790879
Le vomit palette man.

>>2792298
blog?

>>2792082
are you human bean from the discord?

>one year...

Thanks for make me fell a garbage, OP.

>>2792295
I cant even tell which one is better

>>2790715

Does it only count as cherrypicking if you pick your worst early ones and your best current ones?

My progress image has dozens from when I started to where I am now and I basically picked my favorite drawing for every month, because why would I measure my progress by my least favorite drawings?

>>2790744
>the nose is wrong
>the nose is still wrong
kek

>>2790767
To what level I can get in one year for pic on the left?

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>>2791419

>>2790767
i prefer the left

>>2792090
definitely, I currently have lots of free time so I'm trying to get at least 6 hours in a day.
>>2792432
yeah.

>>2790744
Fucking tumblr nose, but I really like the overall style. Do you have a blog or something?

>no progress at all in the year of our Lord of 2016

Do I quit, guys? Despite drawing 3~5 hours a day with almost religious zeal, I think I may have regressed in this year.

>>2793894
What's your routine? Post your work anon.

>>2792162
>dragonslayer_mecha
>aq inspired mech for mechquest
God how I miss the times where I could play those games for hours on end

>>2790785
love the face, blog?

>>2790879
The great Brazilian painter, JuanRia

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1 year of tower girls

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I guess the progress I've made is ok.
Now I have a good foot hold on what to do next and how to get there.

>>2793894
Mindless grinding is exactly that, mindless.

>>2792298
That's some good progress.

>>2792196
>Head looks like a fucking box
>No expression
>Stiff as cardboard
>What the fuck happened to his left hand
>His face is seriously fucked
>What the fuck is the background
>Hand is holding the gun incorrectly
>His head is looks like it was put into a hydraulic press sideways

All the superficial gimmecky rendering and bright lens flare-esque tricks will not save them.

>>2794491
you...know that's an early Mullins piece right? I swear you faggots will make fun of anything.

>>2794379
the last one certainly better than that abomination on a third example
But the first picture (Blaid?) still better by the style

>>2794379
PS:
Also quit giving men a fucking feminine hips and asses. It shows that you mostly draw females.

>>2794506
kek

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6 years.
supposedly the girl who made this was 18 at the time of the after image. meaning she was 12 in the before version

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>>2794699
Talent will do that.

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Mine.

Remember guys, we should all work hard and keep going!

>>2794717
how many hours do you do per day?

>>2794722
On normal days of the week around 12 hours, sometimes more than that. A lot less in the weekends.

>>2790785
Doing very well! Good improvement, Some stuff I think you should work on. Values, grouping them, and giving form with them. I recommend doing cast and sculpture studies, and applying them. Helped me a lot!
>>2791472
Doing well too! Just work on your values as well!
>>2792298
Keep going!!! Let Mario 2017 be even better!

>>2794737
have you gotten any injuries? i want to do that too, but I already tried once (although with only 5-10 minute breaks every 2 hours) and immediately got faint signs of tendonitis on my elbow

>>2794755
Ehmm when I started out I had a very shitty 8 year old bamboo with terrible pressure sensitivity, having to press hard and work on a very tiny surface gave me carpal tunnel syndrome ( I also didn't take enough breaks ).

I bought an intuos pro L later because of the big surface. I get pains occasionally still but it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be.
Try using your whole arm to draw when you can, it helps a lot! Also check with a doctor if you have the possibility, I went to one at the local gym, they can give you more direct exercises that help with the problem! Maybe it has something to do with your grip, or the way you move your arm when you draw.

>>2794717
>>2794744
>>2794774
please stop being a fucking faggot dude. you're on ic not on a hugbox discord server.

>>2794808
Since when is it bad to encourage people?

>>2794934
there are ways and ways. yours/their is the way of faggotry. just fucking stop please.

>>2794934
>encourage

More like coddle, and sugarcoat. If you are looking for "encouragement" there's countless of other sites that will and are designed to cater to your special snowflake needs.

>>2794717
Great improvement for two years.

At this stage, I think you would benefit from experimenting more with color. Your colors are all presented very matter-of-factly. You could definitely be more playful. Look for color palettes and lighting setups, either from art or from film, and try to learn from those, especially highly stylized ones (it's simply a matter of toning them down for realism sometimes). You can also look up a few gimmicks, like blending complementaries in your shadows or your underpaint.

Center 2016 pic is fine, but bunny girl portrait is an example of why your colors bug me. The figure itself is fine, but plants in the background are a super saturated green, flowers are saturated red, it doesn't blend well (especially with nothing else in the image having those similar hues or chroma) and looks too close to painting with numbers. Same problem with the bathroom picture, everything looks like it has too much its "own" color and nothing else.

>>2792298
wtf are you disdain for plebs

>>2790773
As an archer I am so fucking triggered by these drawings


you spend hours perfecting your art technique yet you won't spend 10 minutes understanding how archery works

reeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>2794980
>self describing as an archer
nerd. is this one better?

>>2794509
It's mainly better by style because I was essentially working from nothing and making something, so I had to pay more attention to aesthetics. It's actually a totally flat picture devoid of any sort of form. This is the main reason I never received the help I needed because I was so good at concealing my own weaknesses.

>>2794514
I didn't know my hips were feminine.
I never really paid much attention to that before. Thanks for the heads up.

At least I'm half way to where I want to be.

>>2795001
how could you not know man? go to /fit/ or something and look at hundreds of naked dudes if you have to, shit's all kind of fucked up . if you're going for a mutant from fallout that's okay I guess but from the looks of it you just don't understand anatomy.

>>2795008
You're probably right.

I need to go back and look at the skeleton/spine again from a 3-D model. I've realized all kinds of stuff from just drawing and rotating various parts of the body that I'd never receive from photographs/books.

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>>2795008
Wow, just accounting for the dimensions of the bones themselves it really is all kinds of fucked up.

>>2795015
just try drawing a naked human body quickly from many different angles, if you get better at visualizing the full shape the proportions will come a lot more second nature. going in to all that detail you have with the lighting and musculature is backwards.

>>2795020
Thanks for telling me this.
I had no idea how to train my eye to watch for proportions. I mainly do stuff like that as a fleeting exercise in form.

>>2794955
Yeah you're right! I have mostly been playing it very safe with colors since I've mostly practiced values. I will practice them a lot more the way you told me.

I never knew I had the mistake in the bunnygirl painting. I had people give me critique on it that didn't make any sense, but now I know. From now on this is something I will think a lot more about. The bathroom painting however, I just followed the colors in the ref(except for the window because there was an overexposure there).

Thanks a lot anon. This was something I really needed!

>>2790750
>>2794717
very nice improvement anon

>>2792196
How many fucking times are you going to post this shit

>>2794996
Not him but no that is not better, save for being less horrifically bad.
>using 4 finger draw with 3 finger glove
>Other end of arrow is just floating out there, no shelf not shooting off knuckle
>Drawing hand just sort of out there, no anchor point or anything
>Where is that hand? Unless it's way out in front/away from her body that string should be touching her boob
>stance and form also shit, bow hand has wrist fucking bent
>Bracer/armguard on fucking backwards with the laces facing the string
>String arm elbow out in front or some shit? Should be up and back. Shit anatomy/perspective

Also her bow looks stupid is the top lomb significantly shorter? String looks fucking retarded too, how is it that far back without the bow being particularly bent? Way too fucking loose.

>>2792295
you got worse bro

These threads are always good motivation.

>>2795287
These critiques are all totally valid.

That being said, the artist likely has never shot a bow/ doesn't understand the mechanics behind it.

This is a prime example of why it is important to draw what you know! :)

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Creeping along.
Fuck.

>>2790767
Neck length is still about the same.

>>2790709
>hurf durf unfinished schlock
>hurf durf unfinished schlock
It's still the most basic subject possible
>>2790724
this anon is a dick but has a point. There is some improvement though, but when you cherrypick your best, and it's an unfinished portrait, it's clear you're trying to cover up for something.

>>2790724

You have no idea what you're even talking about lmao

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My progress, I started at 16 from 2011 but I just wished I hadn't messed around for those first couple years but now I'm working most every single day.

>>2795867
study some gesture, your characters are stiff. try to draw full figures

otherwise you're in a good spot

I feel a little demoralized now. How do you do it bros?

>>2795254
This is the only thing that anon posts? They do 1 good painting and suddenly they're some kind of ultimate master of the canvas?

>>2795951
Hey dude what do you work on, as your routine? you've inspired me a bit.

>>2791472
Man, I love that frog. Do you have it in bigger version?

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>>2792166
I feel my eyes trying to escape when I look at that mess

>>2792298
G RAN D DA D

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>>2796683

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>>2793995
kill yourself

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Long ass image dump am sorry.
All of this is within a years span from today
I made another post in an improvement thread but really fucked up the dates. Starts off with me being 17, now I'm 18.

These are all in order. My drawings are just absolute trash when I feel like shit. It's not a case where when I reference, my work is a lot better, because some of the worse shit in there is referenced. I tried not to include any studies.

I'm realizing now that if I want to improve I need to take better care of myself. Drawing used to be an escape to create characters and stories. But now I just use it to evaluate how much of a piece of shit I am.

Got a really long fucking ways to go orz

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couple of years

>>2796998
What's your process? You're in a good spot and I might be mistaken but I get the feeling that you just let the drawings happen, most of these are mugshots or sort of sketches that you decided to work on further. If that's the case you might want to spend more time in the planning phase, it's going to make the final painting look a lot better

>>2790738
woaa, I really like it!

Still... I think there's much room to improve left.
What I've noticed is:

1) the eyes: I think it would look better if they were a little smaller
2) the nose: is a bit too small and undefined in my opinion.

But yeah... These points are just my opinion.

3) the expression: she has no expression somehow. And this looks kinda derpy, to be honestly. Blank stare.

4) the torso:
her boobs face to the front but the rest of the body doesn't. Sure, gives a nice view boob-wise but looks creepy when you look at the full body. I think you should practice torso anatomy in general.


Nice work though, keep it up. :)

>>2790744
the tumblr nose makes her look like a duck-human.

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February 2016
One of my firsts digital drawings ever

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>>2797271
Desember 2016

>>2796155
I just draw whenever I can, be it in a sketchbook or digital. So it's almost everyday, though there's been breaks between. If you feel as if your not doing enough you're on the right track, I've found that even the best artist I've met personally feel that same way so I guess so long as you have the thirst for it you'll git gud.

>>2791541
Knightposting is a thing?
Fucking hell, I should visit this board more often. I have opened like 5 threads so far and each of them have made me laugh out loud.

Why is it that all the 7 year old prodigies only draw hyper rendered frontal portraits?

I never visited this board but I'm watching Bob Ross and got interested. You guys are fucking weird. Everyone seems down more down than people on other boards, also you spend twelve hours a day fucking painting and get injuries? What the fuck, relax guys. A year isn't even that long, there's plenty of time to practice and you can't practice if you fuck your hands up. And do you do anything else? You shouldn't be doing anything for that long

>>2797424
Normies get out

>>2797212
>Tumblr nose
Reeeeeee

>>2797430
I don't see it.

>>2797430
Where?

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>>2797430
I don't think you understand what a tumblr nose is

Tumblr noses are unnecessarily red noses. This is done by artists to avoid having the render all the subtle value changes that make the nose look like it's actually protuding from the face.

It also refers to the triangular bright red noses in more cartoony drawings, but it's fundamentally about red noses on people who are not drunk

>>2797463

Is that loish?

>>2797463
Nah, red noses were originally just a caricature of how translucent skin was. Tumblr noses are racially ambiguous noses mean to not offend anybody because people do not want to impose their values of the ideal nose on marginalized races, typical SJW crap, they can either be red or not.

>>2797470
it's both, to be honest.

>>2797470
this

>>2797471
are you fucking retarded? he just said they can be red or not.

>>2797470

How is this >>2797212 racially ambigious?

>>2797470
The definition has changed now?

Tumblr nose has always been red (or otherwise darkly toned) noses that don't fit the context of the character, used as a crutch to add personality and depth to the drawing.

>>2797477
Looks kinda Asian to me

>>2797250
You got it exactly right, I've never really planned anything out before, it's always just a sketch I happen to like and I keep pushing it until I don't like it anymore. I want to be more ambitious and start painting fuller scenes. Will spend more time planning, so thanks anon.

>>2797470
Or maybe people just like how they look? Why are we even giving a crap about how tumblr draws. As long as I don't have to see it, I'm good.

>>2797488
glad to help! even if you really like a sketch it's always a good idea to repeat the same idea so you can push it further and further without committing to a full painting. it also makes the rendering phase a lot less painful because you don't have mistakes constantly emerging while you work

>>2797473

>they can be red or they can not be red, either way it's a tumblr nose.
His wording implies that the color does not matter

Tumblr noses can have two definitions

1) Red noses for no purpose
2) racially ambiguous gigantic noses for no purpose

and the two definitions are not - obviously - mutually exclusive.

>it can or cannot be a certain way

is not a definition. It's literally the opposite. Definitions are either inclusive "they are commonly red" or exclusive "they are commonly not skin toned".

"sheep can either be white or not"
While technically correct, is non descriptive sentence that when used in fact highlights the fact that the color of the sheep does not change the fact that it's a sheep.

>>2797499
>>2797473

premature posting. Meant to conclude that my point is that there isn't just one definition of the word. The definition of tumblr nose isn't "big ambigous noses that may or may not be red", but rather it's the two separate definitions highlighted above

>>2797496
Ah that's constantly a problem for me. I'm seeing now that sketches need to have little errors or else it really does fuck you up later. I figured that it's alright because you can always fix things later, but that's just a waste of time and effort.

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>>2797503

>>2797509
yeah it's always better to spend more time in the planning stage

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people keep telling me the previous version looks better. is it really more of a regression?

>>2797582
First picture have more character to it, so maybe that's why.

>>2797582
I'm not a trained artist, but there's two reasons why I like the original better.
A. It's sloppier and less defined in certain places, which makes the bad anatomy not stand out as much
B. It has more character, which another Anon already talked about.

Do some Loomis, get those proportions down.

>>2797582

Sadly, yes, I have to agree. There's a lot more character overall to the one on the left and it's a lot better when it comes to structure, placement of the features and proportion. The one on the right is uncanny valley territory whereas the one on the left does not suffer from this.

>>2797584
>>2797586
>>2797588
fuck, thanks

>>2797582
The left side has better values, construction, block-in, and anatomy-wise it's just way more accurate, plus you have the interest of the grimy textures. The right side has much better rendering, but otherwise it's just a polished turd. It has no hard edges to contrast the soft ones, no juicy dark blocks of shadows, no construction whatsoever and it has gained the sterile and over-rendered look of most beginner digital painters.

So fundamentally the left is better in every way but the rendering.The right side is better in terms of technical skill / rendering, but that's literally the only thing you got right with it.

Make sense? Study your fundamentals again and stop jumping ahead to rendering before you have checked proportions, values, perspective and composition. Obviously you were paying much more attention to them and must have dropped off in your studies (never stop studying a subject once you start, it's use it or lose it) or just got lazy or too focused in on the cool new tricks you learned to make it look shiny and kewl. Keep that shit up and you'll be a turd polisher.

>>2797582
The previous picture has a more interesting lighting set up, but the new one is better display of ability

>>2797582
Drawing-wise there isn't much improvement, and the reason why the new one lacks character is that it's too "licked". Too much careful blending going on.

Usually this is an issue of traditional painters, but I guess it also affects digital artists. Try to leave the brush strokes alone so that the painting looks more organic, don't blend everything indiscriminately.

The second painting has less value depth and the light source is too diffuse so it doesn't look nearly as dramatic.

The first one is much better composed because you're drawn from the light on the scarf, up to the neck and hair, and to the eyes. The eyes are in a dark spot so the whites stand out and you look at 'em.

In the second picture there's no real focus point, since there's no meaningful value transition around the eyes.

The fact that the face is the second painting is uniformly rendered makes it less interesting. Wonder why those amazing Chinese painters are found unappealing by many? That's why. If you look at great painters like Sargent you'll see that they'll render very carefully what you need to look at, and simplify things that are not as important. This is how actual eyes work, so it benefits you in terms of realism.

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>>2797611
>they'll render very carefully what you need to look at, and simplify things that are not as important. This is how actual eyes work

Yes. Also if you look up "gurney journey automated selectivity" there's some cool stuff generated from eye-tracking software that illustrates anons point (where people look the longest/the most is more detailed, places they ignored are blurred).

pic related

>>2797551
>I was just pretending xddd

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>>2797603
>>2797611
thanks for the detailed feedback i appreciate it. i see where i went wrong now. i'm going to focus on construction and anatomy next year.

also, when i posted pic related earlier, people also said the old one was better. idk anymore

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God, I'm going to kill myself. I don't have any art talent. I think that I have no future in webcomics.....

>>2790767
No, I'm living proof of this. Drawing is fucking impossible and I'm worse than a kindergartener with a crayon when it comes to drawing

>>2797637
Don't worry Anon. That's personal preference, I like both. Read the book "Alla Prima" by Richard Schmid, I think it can help you a lot in this regard even if it's mostly about traditional art.

>>2797637
hey whats your blog if you have one. pretty good.

>>2797632
not at all what that image implies you disgusting troglodyte.

>>2797644
blog?

>>2792316
Kek, otherwise nice work!

>>2796696
Gabe?

>>2797644
Is this a meme?

>>2797707
Anon, this guy >>2797644 literally drew fucking stick figures and yet he went ahead and studied realism. Draw from life, read a and make lots of figure drawing studies because your fundamentals are weak. You won't make it if you do

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self posting, currently 19

>>2797212
youre going to make it senpai

>>2797992
digusting color themes

>>2798086
You're digusting

>>2798090
Ur nasty and a bitch.

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>>2797992
I like your work!

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>>2795143
A lot of "normal" photos don't have a lot of subtleties. Photos don't necessarily translate well to drawing, and we prefer to exaggerate some things in them to make them more interesting (a classic example would be to push distance fog, there tends to be a lot more fog in paintings than photographs because distance is otherwise harder to convey).

The same is true for colors. I find trying to accurately copy colors from a photograph serves as a good base, but if the lighting was too bland and neutral, at some point I'm better off pushing it into a certain direction.

Thankfully this can be done (cheaply) with filters and curves, along with masking and painting (decide on a palette, then cool or warm certain areas of your painting). The more advanced way to do it would be to plan this shit out in advance, but drawing out subtle colors from a bland ref is kinda like drawing from imagination, you'll have a hard time doing it unless you already have some practice with stylizing your colors.

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>>2798092
U r

>>2791472
>>2796198
seconding the dope frog request

>>2794940
>>2794939
edgy teenagers unhappy because mommy never loved them

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Started out in June. My gap half-year is ending next month, then university will hurt my art gains.
>tfw bought into the stem meme

oh well, h-happy new year /ic/.

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4 months ago

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>>2798365
2 days ago
self portrait by mirror

>>2798195
you should either stop assuming or projecting.

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tfw Better than anyone in here.

>>2798498
post your work then

>>2798367
Your forms have improved a lot! I feel like you might want to work on what the form themselves are (mouth creases, nose bridge and brow/keystone areas are weird, as well as the ear), but the way you shade your forms comes out a lot clearer. Now you just need to study more of the anatomy itself.

Also, don't shade the hair in tiny strands, start with big masses just like for skin (or anything else). Look at how other artists do rough sketches of hair, then selectively add detail onto that (in most important areas, like the outlines and light-shadow transitions)

>>2798498
wow, such standards, kek.
having art that is better than shit, doesn't make your art good, anon.

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2016 was the first year of "wow i need to get better at this art shit".

>>2798498
Everyone is better than any artist when you don't post your work.

>>2797582
More contrast, looks more like actual brushstrokes vs. flat digital brushstrokes, better definition etc.

>>2798765
Nice improvement! Designwise though I think the middle looked best. Simple but distinct.

So what causes the biggest jump in improvement in a shorter amount of time?

Drawing from life a lot? Drawing a lot in general? Using references and correcting your mistakes?

What worked for you guys.

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My Improvement over 1 year.

All these young people trigger me.
I'm 26 and I just started from 0 a year ago.

Should I just give up on my childhood dream of knowing how to draw? I feel sometimes it's just me trying to overcome mid 20's what to do with my life syndrome.

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improved at copying
2015 (17y/o) and rushed 2016(18y/o)

>>2790744
classic example of someone who listened to /ic/ about what to study
if you wanna do anime, study good anime artists

>>2799865
lol

>>2794717
Please stop, leave /ic/ and never come back.

>>2799845
do you have a blog? These are both really appealing.

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>>2799865
>listened to /ic/
>drew tumblr nose

no.

>>2799893
got nothing, sorry!!

>>2797272

dammit this is adorable!!!

>people being mad at other people's improvements
Explain.

>>2790752

Yup that's what you get for hardwork.

>>2790709
>painted from memory
>painted over a picture

I see no improvement

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>>2800113

>>2800113
Nice line work ish but it looks flat especially around the legs

>>2790730
You post yours, fucking retard.

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>>2790709
What happened to that signature?

>>2800114
defiantly should work on proportions

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I didn't have any good works in early 2016, so posting best work from late 2015


The 2016 pic is still a pic I'm working on, but it's ALMOST DONE and I think it looks awesome.

I still bash myself tad too much

>>2797582
Yeah, sorry... first one has better construction, more variation in texture, better values, more fluid brush strokes, more character. The second one has some very odd subtle construction errors and same-texture-everywhere feeling that makes it look very uncanny valley.

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>>2800407
>I think it looks awesome.

>>2800837
post your work.

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>>2797212
girl version

>>2800847
>reactionary "OH YEAH!?"
>implying you have to draw well to know something looks like junk

Not him btw

>>2800407
>that much progress in a year
Family, you clearly don't bash yourself enough

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>>2800981

something recent.

>>2800983

Holy shit, stop drawing and go do porn or something. I have never seen someone move as slow as you, I really do hope you are a hobbyist.

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Do people really get motivated from seeing others get better?

A successful, skilled artist showing off a picture from their kid years and one now that they have 20+ years of drawing on their back just looks offensively condescending to me.

And then everyone goes like "omg such development I can do it too". How do you even reach that conclusion? The guy who posted that didn't do it to motivate you, he did it for the ego strokes. At best, to patronizingly admit that he was once as awful as you are now. It means nothing. And then you go and stroke their ego anyways.

Am I the only who sees this? It's one of the most pathetic things about this board and art in general.

>>2801172
That makes no sense, just think about it.

Successful and skilled artists wouldn't need to post a before and after picture to be praised, they will always have lots of fans praising their work everyday.

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>>2800981
eyyy, you're a bottoms kinda guy. I like you.

>>2801196
Some people just can't get enough ego strokes.

But in case they aren't that person, then it's the other reason and they're just being patronizing under the guise of motivation to feel good about themselves.

>>2801134
>I really do hope you are a hobbyist.

I actually am, drawing is one of my favorite hobbies ;^).

>>2801172
the point of progress posts is to redpill the tinfoil who think talent actually exists.

it's not for anyone else really

>>2801172
so what if the person is proud of what they achieved? is it bad to be proud and get an ego for your hard work?

>>2801259
How exactly does this disprove the existence of talent? Some progress pictures show no progress at all, some show staggering progress in very little time. No talent, talent. Simple.

>>2801265
>achieved
>hard work

These memes need to end.

>>2801274
>No talent, talent. Simple.

No not so simple. One person could have just drawn mindlessly for fun and made no real effort to identify their weaknesses, find artists without their problems, analyzed their work for solutions, etc.

>>2801289
This. it's a weird thing where the quality of the progress is indicative of the intention.

shitty progress:
>d-did i do good, papa?

good progress:
>hard work really does pays off

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>>2792298
>>2792316
Holy shit my sides you fuck i needed them
but in all seriousness your art is great dude keep going and see how better you get

>>2797992
Pretty nice work.

Website?

>>2801492
samefagging kek

>>2801590
kek XD

>>2795578
>This is a prime example of why it is important to think about what you're drawing before you draw it

Fixd

I like the picture, though; it's a lady shooting a bow and, despite everything else, it conveys it's message.

>>2790740
>15 y.o
i wanna die

>>2790724
You're mostly right. I Don't see why people are "calling you out". I to have achieved a higher anatomical understanding than her and I would point out the same flaws as this anon did. She is only 17 though so It's a good start. I bet in 3 years time she will understand the complexities enough to break them down and make her own out of it. She is in the beginning process of learning how planes , materials and lights are working together. Hope she draws from imagination aswell. Refference is good and all but it's pretty awesome to have such an adequate understanding of the subject that you no longer need to rely on refference. The next level would be to have such a big library that you could sit in isolation, without being able to see the seasons go by yet still be able to draw them with realistic accuracy. To understand and break down everything we see and percieve in vision. To be able to draw a persons past through the lines of his face today. I am on this path myself. Seems like anon here is to. You hatin or do you just not believe it to be true? Try and change your perspective a bit guys.

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>>2800407
>I think it looks awesome.

The first rule of the Dunning Kruger Club:
You don't know you are in the Dunning Kruger Club.

>>2800918
>>2800837
this is the very reason why /ic/ is such a bitter shithole of failed artists, who try to keep others to the standards they can't acieve on their own.

There is being honest and there is being a dick. "You can do better" is useless comment, since it can apply to basically everything. In real life you don't even have to be perfect, you just need to be good enough.

I don't ask you to pat everybody on the head and give everyone participation awards. just ignoring mediocre artist is enough punishment.

"Critiques" like "you suck" are not the way to break someone's overconfidence in their skill. You just say that to deliberately make someone's day worse and you are proud of it for some reason.

>>2801927
are you a fucking retard? They actually thought it looks awesome and you would rather keep them in that believe than correcting them? Giving them the opportunity to self-reflect is way less cruel than saying everything is good and keeping them in delusion.

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This year I swear I'm going to study for once.

>>2801927
I'm all against "you suck" type of comment, but it's really hard to sympathize with someone that think their own work, which is still beginner level, awesome.

>>2797272
Love your style, anon!

>>2801933
At least your taste in girls improved dramatically

>>2801931
You are human garbage, waste of resources, please kill yourself.

Here - i hope i gave you opportunity to self-reflect on quality your life and kept you from the illusion, that anybody cares about you and your shitty opinion.

See how charitable i am? Ahh, it feelss good to help others improve!

>>2801935
But It IS awesome - for someone, who few months earlier was able to draw only stickmans and knew nothing about anatomy. Or do whatever thing he thought he was not able to do before.

If you can't relate and you always felt your pictures are shit, then i can only feel sorry for you. Is that why you can't allow anyone to feel good about their progress? Because you had to bear feeling like shit comparing yourself to everyone else, and now other people need to go through the same shit?

Are we really beliving they actually think they're objectively awesome in comparison to professionals? Because if so, then i'm afraid it's a lost cause and some random nameless asshole telling them they're shit is not going to burst their bubble.

And - finally - if they REALLY think at this point - yep, that's it. I'm a drawgod, the long lost son of Loomis and Bob Ross, i can draw everything now - isn't it good that they decide to leave the competition? They're your rivals on the market you know. Good for you you're already better! You don't have to worry about them.

>>2790764
Nice rendering
overdesigned
Devil meme Cry feel

The artist is gay for sure.

I won't lie guys, this thread is making me laugh a lot. LOL

I just started for real. It's great to read your critic.

Especially about the "he is hinding the hands" one. I cracked up on this one. LOL

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>>2801969
that gif sure is a hidden message to go kys. You need to see a doctor.

>But It IS awesome - for someone, who few months earlier was able to draw only stickmans and knew nothing about anatomy

nice backpeddling. They didnt say awesome progress.

>isn' t it good that they decide to leave the competition? They're your rivals on the market you know. Good for you you're already better! You don't have to worry about them.

Nice help you are faggot. This is exactly what I was talking about, you would rather see them embarrassed and shattered when trying to get work than help them out. Steel isnt forged on a lukewarm flame.

>>2790764
This idiot entered the level-up contest and cheated. He was reported and can't enter hahahahaha

>>2790894
https://www.artstation.com/artist/fransvanswam some of his work

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I found a painting of mine from 2015 and I started doing a paintover. Left is current, right is 2015

>>2791472
yeea you're Asian. haha

>>2792298
I really like the second one, you have a blog or something?