Why do all artists feel the need to be political? Is there something

>>2741645
>Why do all artists feel the need to be political?
It's not just artists. People in general want to spout their opinions online. Right now it's easy to hop on the anti-Trump bandwagon too to get easy likes and praise.

>Also, what do you think about Simon Stålenhag's work?
He's very good. I don't really relate to the 80's nostalgia stuff he does because I didn't grow up then, but I can appreciate what he's doing. I like that he is doing his own thing and his art isn't just ripping off somebody else or following current trends.

>>2741645
Pop culture has always influenced art.

Even Michealangelo painted the faces of influential figures into his work. It just happens. Actual political leaning comes with the times, it's been pretty left for the past century when the dadaist movement and popart made nonconformity hip.

>Simon Stålenhag's
S'okay. I've always liked matte paintings though, and his work is pretty reminiscent of that.

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>>2741649
It looks like Jakub Rozalski is ripping off his whole theme of big robots in the background with little people in the foreground.

>>2741651
>>>2741645 (OP) (You)
>Pop culture has always influenced art.
You nailed it; I think this is the biggest part.

>>2741652
It's a pretty common theme though. Also Jakub rips off a ton of stuff, if you search you might find that thing where somebody tracked down his refs and found he was plagiarizing artworks and photos in almost every single on of his images.

>>2741645
I love that guy. His art's amazing. It makes sense that he would hate Trump because his artwork is all about a Dystopian future, I'm sure corrupt leaders are something he thinks about a lot.

>>2741757
>thinks about corrupt leaders
>wants a Clinton presidency

so ready for people to move on from mechs. so boring from overexposure.

>>2741652

He is a poor man's Stålenhag. And that's that.

>>2741645

Artists are generally more sensitive and introspective than the average guy. And the left is all about feeling and sensitivity.

Simon's work is alo very political

>>2741795
>Artists are generally more sensitive and introspective than the average guy
citation needed

>>2741797

Stereotypes exist for a reason, they're largely true.
Creating art is inherently a introspective activity.

>>2741645

I firmly believe that art should detach itself from the individuals political views and ideas. Art itself should represent itself if the artist does a good enough job and it shouldn't leave a bad taste in a viewers mouth if the artist isn't their ideal type of person. It shows what's wrong with the viewer rather than the artist if it does.

inb4 so do you like hitlers paintings???? yes I do they're very nice i would hang them up on my wall for sure/10

>>2741645
I wonder what it is about artists that seems to make the majority lean left liberal (at least this appears to be the general case in the West) and whether the trend is the same across the world like in places such as Russia, China and Japan.

This. I don't consider all political art trash, but well lots of it. Also its painfully cringy to see the artists i know from net whine about trump, and read how "they're feeling mentally ill because elections"

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MILES JHONSTON IS A FUCKING KEK

who can draw pretty nicely, what a shame

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It's pretty obvious. It all stems from the artist as misunderstood non-conformist meme that originated in the late 18th/early 19th century. Not that being left-leaning is even remotely non-conformist in 2016, but that doesn't stop leftists from thinking they're being rebellious.

All your favorite artists are left-leaning, many vehemently so. Spectrum's art director made a post on their page about how diversity and illegal immigration as soon as Trump was elected. I know a handful of artists in various parts of the industry who lean to the right and the consensus is to just avoid talking about politics with other artists and on social media. There's literally nothing you can gain from it.

My opinion: Artists now are normal people who learn to draw, like any other normie they are exposed to the brainwashing liberal marxist media and so they become c u c k s like any other person.

>>2741652
>Tfw your name is jakub rozalski and you don't want to be mistaken with him in the future
Guess it wont matter that much since ill never gonna make it anyway

>>2741766
Kek

>>2741895
hnngg muh dick!

>>2741895
What do you mean?

>>2741955
Kek. That's brutal. I'm glad I have an obscure german name.

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CRINGE

>>2742062
>that many favorites
WAKE ME UP

>>2741645
>>2741843
I'm sure there are plenty of non-political and right-leaning artists. It's just that they aren't as loud and hysterical as the leftist scum.

>>2742062
The original comic is about as bad, it's in character.

>>2741898
Everyone is susceptible to propaganda, and bullshit isn't only liberal or for normies.

For example, 4chan is a hugbox and circle jerk for political ideas. Anyone who differs in opinion gets called a cuck by everyone, therefore people don't really have to confront that opinion.

>>2741895
>23 years old
holy shit

>>2742078
Yeah, their reputation would probably be hurt if they were vocal about leaning right politically.

>>2742110
>4chan
>hugbox

Dissenting opinions get the most attention, so more people see them than they would on shitholes like Reddit or Facebook.

>Is there something about art that makes those who pursue it lean more towards the left?

Right wingers in general are stupid and uncreative. Simple as that.

That's the reason they're uncommon in academia as well as media. They don't have the mental capacity required.

But of course, it's all a jew conspiracy and your average /pol/tard is actually the unrecognized cream of the crop.

>>2743572
You sound like an assblasted faggot

>>2741645
It has nothing to do with art. No one is autistic enough to shitpost all over twitter about how how they're happy Trump won. No one with a brain at least. Why the fuck would I want to post about politics online with my real identity and piss a bunch of people off, potential employers too?
There's no repercussions for being a liberal. Of course you're going to see a lot of that shit on the internet. The rest of us just don't bring the topic up because no one wants to be pestered by all the liberal manchildren.

>>2743572

"Right wingers" aren't the problem, it's the radicals (IE /pol/tards) who give the rest a bad name. Exactly the same as the extreme left with all their SJW nonsense.

Moderate rightists are fine, the thing with moderate rightists is that they're not shoving their ideology in your fucking face at every opportunity, much like most of the moderate left (though I'd argue the moderate left is a lot more smug).

As for representation in academia, many academics are appallingly cliquey and it's easy as hell to destroy your career by saying something controversial, so most don't. The pendulum is in the left right now, but it swings around.

>>2743622
Why did you dignify this fuckwit with a response?

>>2741645
I don't feel the need to be political. What art community? Fuck off.

Also, what do you think about Simon Stålenhag's work?

Who?

>>2743622
Comparing /pol/tards with SJW is not even fair. It sounds nice, but when we consider that SJWS and even normal leftists are rioting on the streets right now or encouraging it, it's not even much of a comparison. /pol/tards mostly just meme. Right wingers, including /pol/ and alt-right, don't make posts on social media for others to unfriend them if they have different opinion either. SJWs and university socialists get people fired over a person's political views and jokes.

>>2741645
left wingers are autistic.

I'm impressed with this board. Maybe all artists aren't liberal cock-sucking nu-males after all.

>>2743646
>but when we consider that SJWS and even normal leftists are rioting on the streets right now or encouraging it, it's not even much of a comparison

I guarantee you if clinton had won you'd have had /pol/-tier retards doing the same shit. Even so that's a digression and unsubstantiated opinion, maybe they'd have been entirely civil (but Trump had been priming people to lose their shit over a 'rigged election' long before the election happened). In drawing the comparison I don't disagree that being an SJW is currently more socially acceptable than being a /pol/tard. I still think they're two sides of the same coin.

Also, there have been some manifestly /pol/ tier nonsense going on in public since Trump got elected. I literally read the other day that some Trump supporters were shouting "KEK! KEK! KEK!" at a guy in a bar because he didn't want to talk about politics. Someone spray painted a swastika and KKK on a fucking elementary school a stone's throw from where I live.

>>2743664

>kek

That's the autocorrect, I don't meme hard enough that I realized that's a thing. You know what word I meant.

>>2743572
>That's the reason they're uncommon in academia as well as media.

Lolwut.

Have you even been to a college?

If yes:

Have you ever stepped foot outside of the fine and performing arts departments? Left and Right leaning politics are pretty balanced in my experience. But I only go to one of the largest universities in the US.

Your political beliefs are articulations your big five personality traits not things you actually decide. You don't have free will.

Artists tend to be high in openness, creativity and agreeableness. That is both why they are suited to being artists and what makes them more likely to align with the left.

They are low in conscientiousness, and orderliness which are conservative traits. This also gives truth to the disorderly existance many of us live in. Your big five traits are malleable in some respects and fixed in others.

Conservatives and liberals, authoritarians and libertarians need each other. Liberals start businesses, conservatives run them and all that shit.

>>2743673
>Artists tend to be high in openness, creativity and agreeableness.

This explains why 97.23% of /ic/ are shit artists.

>>2743677
Kek

>>2741645
Artists think that people want to hear their opinion about ever trivial thing because someone like a picture they made.

>>2743677

Kek... but we also tend to be high in narcissism as a subcategory.

There are many outliers and weird admixtures. but in general I'd suspect if you don't fit the open, agreeable lefty profile you might be pretty alienated in the profession. Or maybe have to go hardmode undercover.

As a politically incorrect autist, I'm going to be fucking lynched.

>>2743684

I wish I could be like a friend of mine. He works at a big company as a producer. He has a kind of indie rock style and a warm personality and is somewhat effeminate in some respects so everyone assumes he is this huge leftie feminist guy. In reality he is the worst pussy hound I've ever met and the kind of locker room talk we do is way worse than Trump's pussy grabbing comment. Basically the people at his work would think he is literally Hitler if they knew. But he loves the whole two face undercover thing. I think he is a high functioning sociopath or something.

>>2743691

Thats interesting man. Psycopaths are highly charming but usually disagreeable and abrasive though. One of my best friends is a psychopath his whole life has been rising to the top of social hierarchies, destroying them and moving on.

Is he driven by power? Impulsive, fearless, danger seeking, doesn't care about animals? He's got that high sexual promiscuity and charm.

Struggling to be anything but honest and always telegraphing yourself is a disadvantage for sure.

>>2743697

Well sort of. He always wants to be the center of attention. Talks like a machine gun so you have to cut him off if you ever want to say your piece. Diagnosed with adult ADHD. Conquer women for the validation. Thrives on it. But he is also really kind and loyal, as long as you don't cross him. If you make him angry his eyes turn black and it's like he's possed by a demon. He likes animals as far as I know and he doesn't enjoy things that are physically dangerous but he loves the thrill of being a conman and a social manipulator. He's more of a technical artist rather than being highly skilled at painting and drawing. Anyway, this is super off topic but since you asked...

>>2743705

Thanks man, yeah sounds like he is not especially high in psychopathic traits, but may have a few, he is high in narcissism (makes sense as it often goes hand in hand with ADHD). I'll leave it at that.

>>2741645
I avoid getting political in public (including the internet) as much as possible; not only for self-preservation, but my general feeling is that politics is a game of appearances that involves no real power and that should be avoided as much as possible.