How do we save /ic/? All the major artists are leaving this board

>>2737869
With more Loomis.

>>2737869
There's nothing we can do to save /ic/.
It's been particularly bad for over a year, and shitposting was almost constant up until a few months ago. Now a lot of the shitposting seems to have died down, as I assume a lot of the older users have gotten sick of it and left, and most of the new posters seem to be tumblrcunts or people asking for blogs rather than giving criticism

There's really just one group to blame, and that's the mods. /ic/ is such a small board that it's very easy to disrupts with shitposting, particularly when you take into considering that we're dealing with something as personal as art. Most people who post here can take harsh criticism and the occasional shitposting, but when the mods allow a handful of individual shitposters to spam threads, samefag and harass specific artists without consequences, then people will eventually get fed up and the community will die.

All it would take to save /ic/ is one mod or janitor to take an active role in combating serial shitposters, but that seems to be too much to ask.

Eventually artists with half a clue get tired of helping the never ending stream of clueless noobs with the same problems. Around the same time they also get tired of sharing their own studies, because studies are not interesting to look at, and uploading them is a waste of time.

>artists like Keppok were bullied so hard she stopped drawing 6 months ago

I'm sorry but this is funny as fuck. Bullying make someone want to stop being an artist?

>>2737969
I fail to see who that's funny. A very talented artist got so much hate from people over and over and over he didn't want to draw anymore.

>>2737979
He was weak and pathetic if he genuinely stopped investing in his craft because someone said mean things about him. Fucking pathetic.

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>>2737869
We stop focusing on circlejerking and actually git gud at art and share advice

>>2737982
It's a sedentary, isolated craft practiced by yourself. It's not a craft that attracts the most thick-skinned.

>>2737869
>artists attack other artists
I sincerely, sincerely doubt that the shitposters are contributers.

>>2737993
>I sincerely, sincerely doubt that the shitposters are contributers.

You're wrong. Might I also remind you the worst shitposters on the board are also the ones that are helpful. Don't be naive in the whole humble meme.

>>2737988
Only works if those artists have the same objectives I believe. Some want to do comics, others want to do porn. You can never trust the ones that want to do porn.

>>2737869
> All the major artists are leaving this board and with them we lose advice and knowledge

no worries OP, I'm still here.

>"major artists" = namefags

there are plenty of good artists here that stay anonymous

>>2737997
Helpful how?

Loomis isn't even that great of a book, all the decent stuff is in the artbook thread.

And if we're going "worst shitposters", I fail to see how throwing a tantrum over black people, politics, generally falseflagging, repeatedly telling peeps to kys or ur not gonna make it the like helps ANYONE become a better artist.

You sound desperate to justify your own behaviour. This board is a mess. Anonymity was a mistake.

>>2738013
>Loomis isn't even that great of a book
It is though.
>all the decent stuff is in the artbook thread
people were able to get good before anything 'new' and exciting was added to an artbook thread. The problem here is too much information being a bad thing. I see that thread as a scam to suck idiots into collecting things they'll never utilize.
>I fail to see how throwing a tantrum over black people, politics
This line just screams you hate the /pol/ posters and the rest of the things mentioned are normal 4chan behavior. Something on your mind, anon?
>You sound desperate to justify your own behaviour.
I'm just telling you the honest truth. Don't be surprised the mentioned "major artists" are the ones shitposting the hardest.

>>2738027
Your rhetoric leaves something to be desired, not worth engaging with.

Good thing about anonymity is that you can just leave threads where morons think they have a right to an opinion, like this:

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>>2738030

I'll just take it I was right about the 'something on your mind' and move on. It's not healthy to keep past conversations on your mind, anon.

>>2737869
do you have any archived advice from doxy?
in desperate need

>>2737869
Fuck you and your shitposting bullshit. I'd put good money on you actually being an autistic troll, who'd have no other reason to namedrop
>Doxy and InCase, people like Simon, BBC and Kyle
than to seek some verification of you being some epic troll. Fuck off. You still can't draw. Why are you still here?

I agree with >>2737893 in that there are no mods that give a fuck about this board. This board is slow enough that one fuckwit can post enough to drown out useful posts in noise. Stupid shit (like the OP) will stick around and get (you)s until mods start doing their fucking jobs.

/ic/ hasn't taught me anything, it's the good and skilled artists that have taken the time to teach me through here that have helped me. /ic/ is pretty worthless, you might get lucky though and get a badass artist giving you a critique or a paint over, but chances are you won't. I learned talking directly with artists you admire that like you back are the best teachers, not random people.

>>2738255
I'm just here because I'm kinda lonely and have nowhere else to go.

>>2738261
I know how you feel, making artist friendos isn't very hard though. Even if they're really good, chances are they'll be really nice people that will give you pointers when they have spare time

>>2738261
Or you can just go to CA. Or you can fap. Time spent doing those things will ultimately be more productive than being on /ic/ kek

>>2738261
Same reason I'm here anon.

>>2738255
Are you retarded? If someone from /ic/ helped you, then /ic/ helped you. You can't go around excluding the people who helped you on /ic/ and say /ic/ never gave you anything.

>>2738281
/ic/ never gave me anything

>>2737869
>How do we save /ic/?

By getting off /ic/ and draw

>>2737869
Lose anonymity. That's it. Whoever bullies gets banned.

Who cares about Keppok? If he was really bullied into quitting art then he is a giant faggot

>>2738481
>said the anon that's afraid to post their art because they'll get bullied

>>2737869
Has anyone else noticed that all artwork, from little kid notebook doodles to Renaissance masterpieces, all get jumped on by /ic/?

But, if it at all involves an anime girl, it's a beautiful and majestic piece of art. No, I'm totally serious, here, anime-styled art, especially if it features a young, generic big-eyed skinny girl, is completely immune to criticism on this website.

I feel like the obsessive and arrogant weeb culture on 4chan makes this site sub-par. But I still like it.

Problem is, nobody else is as honest as /ic/, and even though I post on this site, for every one crit, I get two or three (you)s saying "your art sucks, kys, kek."

>And artists like Keppok were bullied so hard she stopped drawing 6 months ago.
Don't know who that is, but this reminds me of Bagbosse. I liked his stuff, there was a novelty to his style. It reminded me of the illustrations in Roald Dahl books.

>>2737969
>>2737982
>>2738481
Well, aren't you an edgy one. What, your parents didn't hug you enough?

>>2738493
>Problem is, nobody else is as honest as /ic/, and even though I post on this site, for every one crit, I get two or three (you)s saying "your art sucks, kys, kek."

I'd like to second this. Anytime I'm looking for real advice I get this.

/ic/ is a stepping stone for beginners to get access to resources and simple regurgitated pointers. A lot of our meme answers aren't necessarily wrong.

As soon as you become competent the 'critique' offered here is mostly just venom though. Once you hit that point posting here is basically a waste of time, I wouldn't be surprised if competent artists still lurked though.

>>2738676
>/ic/ is a stepping stone for beginners to get access to resources and simple regurgitated pointers.
In my case, basically THIS
it might be a shit board for whatever reason that I don't really know, but if /ic/ didn't exist I may have never decided to actually get good, or at least I wouldn't be able to do it properly so without all the resourced and tips I see on here

I have no idea who Keppok is but if you quit on art because your feelings got hurt then go the fuck away you little fag.

In case you were wondering, InCase posts on /aco/ all the time.

Wasn't Keppok a racist /pol/ bitch?

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>>2738762
>>>/tumblr/

Keppok was a racist cunt. Her quitting art just shows how weak she really is.

We need an ID system.

>racist /pol/ female artist
>get excited
>weeaboo bullshit

sigh. send her to the gas chambers.

Thanks for shitting up the thread and proving why we need to save /ic/. Bunch of vocals assholes who attack other artists.

>>2738803
Ah I remember the last time you idiots argued over on /qa/. Remember how I stuffed the ballots and people got angry that they stayed up overnight just so the mods can favor them? Twas hilarious.

>>2738979
There's nowhere to go.

Unless you're fine with just tossing your beginner work into the infinite swirling vortex of mayhem and shilling that is conceptart.org

>>2737869
You don't. It's always going to be a shithole.

Just do whatever you guys can individually to be on the kind of behaviour you'd like to see and ignore everything else. Learn to critique like a professional, obtain a well-rounded knowledge of the fundamentals, practice daily. Help those who want it and ignore those who don't, there's no helping them or the parrots.

Be the change you want to see, /ic/. The attitude you all choose is what lurkers and newbies see. Set a good example and the rest will follow or they can go suck a dick.

>>2738991
what about permanoobs.org, started by a guy who got cucked by conceptart.org and is trying to emulate its golden age