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(Reposting from a post as a thread) >Let's say a guy

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>Let's say a guy is an amateur in drawing
>He has savings for one year
>Decides to quit his job
>He gathers resources and prints them, buys books that he'll need
>He cuts off internet to his pc
>He starts drawing
>~10h a day each day

In that year his schedule would be to get up at 10am, workout in his home gym for 2h (including shower and breakfast), then draw from 12am to 12pm with one hour in between for sleep and eating (food would be made).

That guy is around thirty years old.

Would he become at least employable and good enough to switch his career to illustrating / animating or CA depending on what he chooses?

Thoughts?
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>>2707084
Muh dick!
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>>2707084
You can't binge train in drawing. You only risk becoming a psychopath. And you still need feedback.
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>>2707105
You think becoming psychopathic would be detrimental for the quality of work you'd be able to produce? I'm speaking strictly about getting better.
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>>2707084

Maybe, maybe not. People want to deny it, but talent exists. If you have talent and you're great at learning on your own, you could probably learn really quickly and absorb a lot of info and make huge progress in a year. Maybe enough to hit a REALLY base level for being employable.

But what if you're a slow learner and you can only absorb so much info. in one day? Those 10 hours won't mean much if you can only absorb about 2 hours' worth of the info.
What if you're the kind of person who needs external feedback but you're just struggling on your own?
What if you're the kind of person who can learn much better with an instructor but instead you just have your books and printed resources?

There are people who make it studying like that on their own, but they have talent, and they're wired for learning that way. If you aren't so lucky, you may find you've wasted a lot of time for less than great results.
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>>2707131
Interesting, that means trying it out for a couple of days as a test would either prove that it's feasible, or save a lot of time. Great input.
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You will get better, but in order get employable you need the necessary knowledge to exactly know WHAT to train and HOW.
If you're really a complete amateur you'll obviously lack that knowledge. What you need then would be a mentor, who really has the time and passion to spend at least a day per week with you, troughout the year.
Additionally you should know for what kind of job you want to train. A simple "just git gud" is not focused enough to get employable. You should know what specialisation, what tools and maybe have a bunch of companies ready where you plan to apply.

I would say a year is not enough. I personally needed a year to kill all the common amateur errors I made and to build a solid foundation. Another year was needed to find out what I actually wanted to do/be.
last but not least, you may risk a burnout and will lose the joy in art. Obviously people are differently wired so this might not be the case for you, but only you will know that.
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>>2707151
A mentor one day a week. That's a lot better than books, would just have to save a bit more to pay him. And know exactly were I'd want to specialise. That's harder because at the start you're not exactly sure. This will eat up some time.
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>>2707084
mate
do you understand the concept of burnout? or repetitive strain injury?
becoming an art hermit is not how to improve. cutting off your internet is especially a bad idea. to improve, you need an actual desire to do so. the internet is a major source of inspiration and feedback, so unless you have an irl art rival, don't consider it. if it's such a major source of distraction then just turn your fucking computer off and draw at a desk for a few hours
going back to burnout, drawing for ~10 hours a day for a year with the ultimate goal of, what, a concept art job that you're not even guaranteed to make a livable wage with? i know you're probably thinking about this because you'd prefer to have an art related job, but your plan is going to make you fucking hate it. you'll only start going through the motions of your studies and barely improve

on a slightly less angry note, i'd say studies are more of a quality over quantity thing. really, just try to make time for them, and make them count. decide beforehand while you're at work what you can improve on. even when you're not drawing, observe how things work. make a mental note of them and study them later
it'll take longer than your plan, but you'll actually get results instead of, say, carpal tunnel release surgery
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>>2707084
Not even remotely realistic. You still need to network, get in touch with clients, make art friends and get followers. Plus it takes time to get the ball rolling to the point where you can consistently go ten hours a day. In the beginning its hard to even do 3 or 4.
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>>2707084
Maybe, but not if you're starting from nothing. Practice next to whatever job you have now for at least 1 year, preferably 2. By that time you should've moved past the beginner stage enough that you can focus properly, rather than meander.

Also, seriously, take a look at the number of art jobs out there with whatever resources you have. If you can, look into what they pay. Passion is great and all, but passion doesn't pay the bill. Anyone sane doesn't leave a job until they have another lined up, barring extenuating circumstances.

Basically, don't be an idiot. Take your time with this. Around 30 still means you have 40 years left at least, probably 50 or more. If you want to change direction to art, do it now. But don't bet everything on it yet.
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>>2707177
Good stuff to think about, especially about health. I just want to change my career so much that i'd do anything. Would gettting one day off in a week to socialise make a difference? How can you burn out if you get better every single week?
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>>2707188
>How can you burn out if you get better every single week?
improvement doesn't really work like that. while technically you will be getting better, it'll take a while to notice it. also, when you've made a significant improvement, sometimes you wont know where to go next. course, if you don't know what you need to improve on then you wont improve at all. i'm not sure if that made sense, but being temporarily blinded by some sort of art "high" is an issue i have frequently

i'm not sure how much free time you have each day, but aside from your usual routine, eating, ect. try spending half of it drawing, and the other half for collecting references, finding inspiration (doesn't have to be art) and socializing. i'm dead serious about the quality>quantity thing

also i'm some random fuck on the internet so take my advice with a grain of salt. i haven't been in your position before so i'm mostly talking out of my ass here and making educated guesses
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>>2707084
He should go through vocational training instead and do the more complicated stuff on the side or after it.

Even as an adult, you need 2-3 years to drastically change jobs like that. And this is for entry level stuff even if you have done preparations.
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>>2707224
Oh, and just to make it clear, I mean 2-3 years of fulltime training under teachers. You will clock at least 8 hours every day in school.
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So the consensus seems to be to take it slow, for the time being at least. When all fundamentals gonna be in place and one actually knows what niche is most attractive, only then try something like that.

Quite interesting, my own opinion was that one could "brute force" and git gud in a short period of time by properly applying himself.
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