Okay, so I've been practicing and studying loomis, 3D construction,

>>2698891
that picture there is pretty much a perfect explanation though

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>>2698895
Doesn't help me draw shit like this

>>2698896
just copy the reference? there's also a eye in side profile in the top left box, it should help you, just copy everything you see in the drawing. and study other sources or references.

>>2698907
This
I don't understand your problem OP
All you have to do is copy the eyes over and over until you get it and can do it without the reference

>>2698891
Try looking at marble sculptures. That way the eyes have no eyelashes and there's less confusion with the iris and stuff (though some have hollowed out the pupil to make it dark). Sculpture also will have clear forms and the white local colour means less is hidden in shadow and the forms are very clear.

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>>2698891
OP, your problem isn't drawing the eye, it's drawing everything around the eye. The underside of the brow, the nose, the cheek bone. Connecting the feature to the planes of the face.

DESU, best way to learn this is to sit in front of a mirror with various lighting setups and do 30 minutes studies from different angles. Sight-sizing a decently sculpted cast would also help if you have access.

Seriously, don't think about drawing the eye, just focus on getting the shadows/ subtle value shifts of all the planes around the eye correct. Then you just chuck an almond shape in the right place and you're gtg.

>>2699201
Another example of what I'm talking about. I drew the black squares/rhombuses underneath the brow by the nose first, then the grey 'rhombuses' underneath the eye that connect to the cheek and begin to wrap up around the brow (can't redline cuz i'm on my phone). At that point, I had the cylinder/hole form really clear and it was easy to throw in a few more shadows to represent the eyes. Pupils generally go in last, otherwise it's too easy to make them too big/small.

This is a really simplified/sketchy example, but you're describing a struggle I had. Those diagrams help for understanding construction, an important component, but neglect to tell you "IRL you just gotta copy the fuckin shadow shapes m8"

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>>2699216
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>>2698896
the eye is a sphere, nestled into the brow and cheek bones. the lids follow the curve of the sphere. I don't see why you can't apply that to this picture?

>>2699216
>>2699201
That actually makes sense, thanks. Are there any good lessons somewhere about the values of the eye/brow/nose? Or do I have to wing it over and over
>>2699227
Like I get how to construct an eye, it's the values that seem to be constantly changing from ref to ref, so I don't have a solid foundation of how the light and shadow works. The "anatomy" of the eye basically

>>2699432
>have to wing it over and over
Yeah that's basically how it works. Don't just "wing" it though, observe for shadow shapes, and compare over and over to see which ones are darker than others.

It's tedious and frustrating when you don't get it right. Welcome to drawing. If you keep it up, it will get easier.

>>2699201
Sorry but I was so caught off guard by the desu filter that I kek'd. But good advice though.