I am having a hard time learning how to construct heads and the

>>2653670
My favorite - and one that a lot of people here like - is Figure Drawing: Design and Invention by Michael Hampton. A pdf of it turns up in a google search.

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totally totally totally forget all these guidelines people draw, it's a fashion trend, it ruins sketches.

When you're drawing compare distances to each other aloud in your head, really try to make mental notes of where things are in comparison to one another.

Then try this at a life class or sketching people in cafes.

You can train yourself to judge distances by being acutely aware.

>>2653678
Can someone verify this? I hate the idea of learning with those stupid guidelines. Cartoony shit like that is an eyesore to me.

>>2653683
well buy a Rembrandt sketch book or Lucien Freud sketch book

they didn't leave cross hairs all over the page.

Look at the cover of the book, the n of Lucian is bit to the left of the last s of sketchbook's, and both make a line with the tail of the b in book,

see? by describing where these things are in our head, it helps to make notes of how to draw them as we see them

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>>2653693

>>2653678
>>2653693
>>2653695

but these construction techniques are not really for life drawing, they're for drawing from imagination and creating convincing proportions and perspective.

>>2653678
kill
yourself
stop trying to push your fucking garbage

>>2653726
Not him but why don't you try to make a convincing argument instead of just being insulting?

>>2653730
Go ahead and draw a human figure in an interesting pose from imagination without using any construction.

I'll be fucking waiting.

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>>2653758

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I just deleted my long post to what I was going to tell you because I am, quite frankly, tired of bestowing sensible knowledge that gets you anons here to think and then threads (like this one) go on a tiraid of how I'm right and you're wrong when you've been given very valuable advice in the very first post.

So yeah, I'll tell you what you want to hear

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Totally anon, you're right. What was that guy thinking?

>>2653778
Oh and just for the record I don't agree with >>2653678 completely but he is not all that wrong.

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>it needs a sphere round its head

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>>2653678
fucking horrible advice, end your life

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>>2653726
see
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>>2653699
>someone who doesn't know what construction is

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People that put construction lines are apeing Dreamworks factory designers

it's like when a solo musician counts "a 1 and a two and a 3 and a 4" before they play

it's unnecessary, but it's also ugly

>>2653677
any trusted links? because when i googled all were pretty much suspicious links

>>2653846
never mind found it facepalm

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>>2653838

yep. constructing the figure out of simple forms is always about imitating 20th century animators

>>2653866
That's not animation, fucktard.

Sycra's pointy chin videos is the one to go. He and his friends are very successful and well known in the industry. gives a lot of great advices.

>>2653695
>>2653800
lazy, flat as fuck, and out of alignment. These doodles are not worthy of being held up as examples of any sort of ideal, I don't care who drew them.

>>2653880
>shit talks Freud and Rembrandt
>I click on images
>mfw you're right

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>>2653866
>he figure out of simple forms is always about imitating 20th century animato

It's where it's coming from

you have to do a line all across the eyes, then a line all down the nose then a round circle

it's a poorer sketch for it

>>2653871
wow, what are you some kind of art history professor?

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>>2653670
Work through Steve Huston's book, OP. Then build on top of it with Michael Hampton's book. Then check out the Loomis books for information on how to place multiple figures in a scene and deal with composition. Then start memorizing muscle names and where they go whatnot.

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>>2653880
>lazy, flat as fuck, and out of alignment. These doodles are not worthy of being held up as examples of any sort of ideal, I don't care who drew them

It's why this place is so resolutely rubbish

These posts don't like art but they post here all the time.


art is about emotion, you like measuring things with a ruler so you can hurt people.

>>2653890
also check out the Reilly Method. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RmHOvmPJjE

Obviously the constructions learned in these books and in the Reilly method are not used for every drawing you do. You internalize them over time. Fall back on them if you need to.

>>2653678
That's all great for just drawing what you see, but guide lines come in handy when drawing more complex figures and poses from imagination.

>>2653992
Imagination is what you recall from drawing refs.

>>2653896
Is this that scene from Resident Evil 4?

>>2653800
>tfw when Rembrandt invented the >:3 face

>>2653800
>>2653880
Can't you tell it's a fucking ink? Of course you can't put down construction lines when working with ink, same goes for the old masters' silverpoint sketches, their construction work has been lost (aside from da vinci, who did construction thumbnails before the actual painting) because graphite doesn't last centuries.

You should do both methods, because both train different skills.

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>>2653871

>>2653670
>>2653678
>>2653885
I am a naturally skilled drawer and sculpter. In fact, in the 3rd grade i was able to accuratly draw a womans or mans figure at just about any position just like you are doing now. But not the same way. I was able to pic up a pencil and from memory just draw. I'm not bashing you techniques at drawing, but I have never understood why people need to use underlining to draw simple stuff. I was always able to draw what I see just how I see it, shading aswell. My technique is to look at what u want to draw, and imagine it 2D or flat, then draw it as you see it, also for shading, just add shadows and dark areas just how you see it. And then once you draw it once, u can draw it anytime without needing the object. Basically I am able to copy what I see and draw it how I see it.

>>2654131
The only thing you've said is that the way you and I draw things is different. Just let it go at that. If it works for you, good on you, but that doesn't mean it will work as well for someone else.

>>2654131
I can't tell if you're a troll or a genuine retard.

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>>2654131
fuck off

>>2654131
>I'm a god

kek

>>2654200
I am a naturally skilled drawer and sculpter. In fact, in the 3rd grade i was able to accuratly draw a womans or mans figure at just about any position just like you are doing now. But not the same way. I was able to pic up a pencil and from memory just draw. I'm not bashing you techniques at drawing, but I have never understood why people need to use underlining to draw simple stuff. I was always able to draw what I see just how I see it, shading aswell. My technique is to look at what u want to draw, and imagine it 2D or flat, then draw it as you see it, also for shading, just add shadows and dark areas just how you see it. And then once you draw it once, u can draw it anytime without needing the object. Basically I am able to copy what I see and draw it how I see it.

>>2654211
Is this a hot new copypasta?

>>2654213
great, /ic/ memes aren't cancerous enough already, we need to add more wood to the fire

>>2654221
he's right. great /ic/ memes still aren't cancerous enough. we need to add more wood to the fire!

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>>2654239
fine.

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>>2654131

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>>2654239
flash your spark.

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You obviously need more >>>/vilppu/.

pic related.

>>2654289
Regarding your Dynamik Wrinkles und Drapery. I don't need it.

I am a naturally skilled drawer and sculpter. In fact, in the 3rd grade i was able to accuratly draw a womans or mans figure at just about any position just like you are doing now. But not the same way. I was able to pic up a pencil and from memory just draw. I'm not bashing you techniques at drawing, but I have never understood why people need to use underlining to draw simple stuff. I was always able to draw what I see just how I see it, shading aswell. My technique is to look at what u want to draw, and imagine it 2D or flat, then draw it as you see it, also for shading, just add shadows and dark areas just how you see it. And then once you draw it once, u can draw it anytime without needing the object. Basically I am able to copy what I see and draw it how I see it.

Thank you for trying tho.

>>2654289
I actually think dynamik wrinkles und drapery is a pretty rad meme, everything else /ic/ has come up with is trash though

>>2653678
>unplesant

Dropped.

>>2653678
this hurts to look at

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>>2654498
Hello there friend. I would like to take just a moment of your time and talk to you about my personal friend, and lord and savior, Andrew Loomis.

>>2653678
Excellent advice

>>2654131
Are you Kim Jung Gi?

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>>2655065
DID HE MENTION BOXES!?

>>2654373
post examples or kill yourself.

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>>2654569
>thks

>>2654641

saved

>art is about emotion, wat iz quality
>you should train yourself to see AND NOTHING ELSE PEASANT, HUMAN CAMERAS ARE ALL THE RAGE
>what matters in art is having sketches that look baller so I can impress my non-artist friends, definitely. it's not like sketches are an early stage to something later and more finished or anything

God this board is fucking retarded. Please, like 90% of you, go kill yourselves.

op here
thank you for the suggestions. I am going to look over them later when I am off work. specifically these ones first:
>>2653677
>>2653901
>>2653890

>>2653871
L0L

>>2653778
Good to know that you realized that I'm right and you're a fucking idiot

>>2656388

I'm never wrong you stupid kid.

>>2653693
Did you know that back in the day artists used to engrave their construction lines on the surfaces and THEN draw the final lines on top of them? That way, you couldn't see them and only see the final lines.

>>2656425
That's interesting. I can't quite imagine it.

I read about how the artist would make a sketch that was agreed on, then make tiny holes along the lines and put charcoal through the holes to the canvas as a stencil.

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>>2653670
the top of the ears are sort of level with the eyes. The nose is in between the eyes, and then the lips underneath.

>>2656393
You've admitted that I was right so that means that you're wrong, kiddo.
checkmate

>>2656615

I put a like this

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that separates reality from your fantasy as is my posting style

checkmate alt-right

>>2653853
C-Can you send link Tried to search through book thread couldnt find anything.

This thread makes me believe in le /ic/ boogeyman who spreads false knowledge around trying to make newfags stall.

>>2656834
shhh, you'll redpill too many people.

>>2656630
You're retarded

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Kill yourself you fucking moron

>>2653800
loomis

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>>2656908

(you)

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first

>>2656834
Read the sticky bitch

>>2656940
I am a naturally skilled drawer and sculpter. In fact, in the 3rd grade i was able to accuratly draw a womans or mans figure at just about any position just like you are doing now. But not the same way. I was able to pic up a pencil and from memory just draw. I'm not bashing you techniques at drawing, but I have never understood why people need to use underlining to draw simple stuff. I was always able to draw what I see just how I see it, shading aswell. My technique is to look at what u want to draw, and imagine it 2D or flat, then draw it as you see it, also for shading, just add shadows and dark areas just how you see it. And then once you draw it once, u can draw it anytime without needing the object. Basically I am able to copy what I see and draw it how I see it.