I want to find out how skilled /ic/ actually is I want the best

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>>2619839

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When people ask me to show them my work, this is all I have to flash them.

Your problem is that you're asking for people who think they're good enough. That just doesn't work.

>>2619865
i remember you

>>2619909
wasn't it nosefag when "he" made the "intermediate thread"?

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I'm not the best on here, but I'm ok. I basically never post my work, but I do give crits pretty often.

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This is one of the better drawings I've done.

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Also porn, not because it's good, but because I can't post it anywhere but here.

>>2620034

That's pretty great tbqh.

>>2619839
You're not going to find the best by making this thread, you're going to find mediocre artists with massive egos. Most professional artists are above 4chan brag threads.

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>>2619839
usually give crits haven't posted my work in more than a year though.

>>2620037
>>2620037

U said fookin wut m8

>>2620044
dude

fucking

blog

now

please

>>2620044
that's beautiful, anon

>>2619849
>
i swear to god someone flattenned this image.

>>2620022
damn...

>>2620044
bloggg

>>2620044
wait is this actually traditional? Then it's even better. What did you use for the linework? Whatever I've used seems to smudge after applying watercolors.

>>2620065
>>2620168
What is reverse image search

http://worshippedthemoon.tumblr.com/

>>2620044
tight. shading makes it look flat though

>>2620172
That is clearly not the artist's blog
This is: http://echoes-of-freckles.tumblr.com/post/147921509826/the-oldest-house-the-truest-home-personal-piece

>>2620033
You got a blog?
>Undead oy vey on the right

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>>2620044
>keep finding artists I follow or love actually browse /ic/

>>2620022
jesus christ this is amazing but add more depth man it looks like a flattened land scape, unless that was what you were going for bro then nvm

>>2620208
>more depth man it l

can't be done, it's flawed.

it's over painted so there are bumps underneath which means no matter how deep I get the paint the lumps break the affect

leave as is, a curiosity

>>2619909
nigga is falseflagging

Hey, turns out people who give crits here are pretty good!

>>2620208
>>2620127
lol samefag
you're awful, stop trying to convince people you're not

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Does this doodle make me good?

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this is the best ever made honestly.

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Whatever

>>2620127
>>2620208
>>2620209

such shitty samefagging.
know how i can tell?
because your samefagging is just as bad as your art.

>>2620035
there is a porn thread m8

>>2620280

This is isanely good, I love it, please post more if you have!

>>2620280
bad
>>2620271
bad
>>2620270
bad
>>2620165
bad
>>2620044
not bad
>>2620035
bad
>>2620034
not bad, but not good
>>2620033
not bad
>>2620024
bad
>>2620022
very bad
>>2619865
meme
>>2619849
i can see anything wrong with this, blog please.

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>>2620286
ok
>>2620287
whatever

>>2619839
Didn't you know? Illastrat is the best artist on /ic/

>>2620288

Love this one as well, just followed your blog, you're awesome!

>>2620292
W-what?..

>>2620292
Oh, I forgot I had that on tmblr

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I haven't drawn for a long time, and until a few days ago I never drew anything hentai/girl related. Critique this fairy girl please?

Hey guyz, how do I into comissions? Like right now?

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>>2619839
wip

>>2620300
You hid the face.
Really?
Btw, how much does that garbage costs?

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I am the best oil painter on dey board...and I am black

>>2620288
>I want the best people

cant you read the OP?

Who would be considered the best draftsman on the board who supposedly is black?

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>>2620306
I did, but didn't care.

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>>2620308
its just cus, you know, you will never get gud if you think you already gotten gun. when you not gud.

>>2620311
Alright! Fine! I suck horse cocks! Give me a break goddammit.

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>>2620314
truth is the only way you'll make it to the top anon.
>pic related
>its the top.
you will make it if you kill the ego.

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Subject matter is kinda boring but technique wise I think it's decent

>>2620287
post ur art :^)

>>2620396
blog?

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i have a few things i do better than anyone, and a few things i have trouble with.

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It is truly depressing to realize that you're better than the majority on /ic/ after starting off as a complete beginner, sometimes I wonder why do I even bother coming back since Simon has clearly left you faggots for good since none of you never took his advice.

>>2620443
damn. sorry anon. it must be hard being the best. you don't have to post your work i know you're upset just treat yourself today. go to the park maybe find a nice hole in the wall restaurant. today's YOUR day anon.

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>>2619839
A painting of mine

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just did this while waiting for the bus

>>2620365
Thats fantastic!!

oh it another big boys thread!

>>2620466
illastrat-tier

>>2620470
I wonder how animators/clean-up crew work on animatics as fluid and already clean as this. Seems more difficult to do when it's already expressive and all entirely in the storyboarder's style, than in a rough simplified manner.

lel, I wont post anything. suck it.

>>2620499
pretty please with sugar ontop ?

Surprisingly good stuff in this thread. And yet none of the real good artists have posted ( i keep close tabs on all good artists who visit /ic/)

>>2620287
You're being too obvious, he mixes it up a little for maximum annoyance

>>2620532
Names?

>>2620547
There are none.

>>2620470
Can you tell me how you made this, this is really nice

>>2620556
Like THIS
*grabs dick*

>>2620558
are you gonna suck his dick too after grabbing it?

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>>2620558
N-nevermind, I'm good

>>2620265
>>2620283
nice try but why do you bother?

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>>2619839

hey friends

>>2620300
jmgn please stop posting your trash

>>2620632
Get out of here with your las shit and stay in your containment thread.

>>2620564
You too, nigreo.

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>>2620044
You are God, sir. After viewing your blog I now have a favorite artist.

I mean just fucking look at that.

>>2620608

like this a lot

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Oil on gold leaf

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REEEEEE

>>2620633
holy shit you're retarded

>>2620437
I like that style. I am working on a banquet style still life that I will post in a sec. I like what you did with the background.

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>>2619839
This is my study of Leonid Afremov style with lamp posts being the light source.

>>2621025
posting to this thread? really?

>>2620044
nice power level

>>2620317
This gif arouses my human condition

>>2620437

Heyy, that's some good shit mane

Not every day you see a new, non-cancerous style

I like

>>2621038

Not bad, but hard to tell with a bad quality camera

>>2620365
Fooled me at first glance. Good job

idk man. i post like 10% of what i practice or spend actually drawing on a daily basis but judge for youself yaow12.tumblr.com

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on that endless quest to get better

>>2621824
Wow, your blog is one big inspiration thread, thanks m8.

>>2622590
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>>2620287
>i can see anything wrong with this, blog please.

you fell for the meme

>>2620220
That's one person.

>>2622606
So are you ;^)

>>2620470
Don't lie cunt that's BahiJD's genga for Space Dandy.

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Couldn't scan this in unfortunately because some landwhale was using the apartment computer to watch Jerry Springer and my scanner hasn't come in yet.

>>2622625
OP said
> the best people
not
> the baka gaijin desu ka

>>2622626
kek'd

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i'll give it a try.

>>2622686
I love it but I don't like how sparse the shading is. There should definitely be a thicker shade under the hinge of the jaw, and the area between the cheek and the jaw doesn't make sense because there's no shadow and no volume as a consequence. There should be occlusion shadows there because the shapes are converging inwards. Maybe a heavier line would fix it.

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Doesn't matter because my work is still amateur fucking garbage anyway but whatever.

>>2622761
OP said the best. Not your fucking muddy valued garbage.

Kill yourself.

>>2622766
Flash your work

>>2622774
>Defending shitty work

Kek. Never gonna make it.

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I'm a long time ic poster, posted most often from 2008 - 2011

>>2622776
cunts like you are the reason no one here is gonna make it familia
you dont bother to criticize anything properly and instead just shit on someone because you are in a bad mood
please get off the internet when you are on your period desu

>>2622776
>Not putting your word where your money is
Ngmi

>>2622786
>>2622785
>Actually like muddy garbage

FUCKING KEK.

>>2620897
Saved

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I never left you

>>2622794
sick

>>2622794
Fuck off with your amazing work.

>>2622794
op said the BEST not this uninspired generic shit

http://doodlezbd.tumblr.com/
this guy
also vetyr

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get silled

>>2620443
i bet yr so good my dude.

>>2620460
lololol

I miss catbib.

>>2623235
Same

>>2620044
Why do you browse this shithole?

>>2622788
it has nothing to do with his drawing
it could be weebshit for all i care
you are just behaving like a spastic retard and its not helping anyone

>>2623597
>drawing

Pretty sure that's a painting retard.

>liking muddy valued garbage

L M A O

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Please provide feedback

>>2620487
That isn't a story board. It's the uncolored animation

>>2622806
lol
THis is literally the best one in this thread. it's mostly beginners strongly affected by dunning kruger effect

>>2623618
Meh

>>2622794
damn.

>>2620024
This is dope, senpai. Ignore the haters.

>>2623645
just meh?
feedback, please

>>2623660
I think the trees are okay, the little birds on top are shit (lack of detail, a simple V is 5 year old worthy). Also clouds are m'kay maybe go a little too far. Work on the ground and straight lines, colors are m'kay Also it seems a little too flat (lack of shadows)

>>2623660
/ic/ is the wrong place to expect feedback anon,people here would rather let out their bad mood on other artists than criticize and improve
i think you should move on to a better art forum where people actually talk about their improving their skills
btw i like the painting , i just dont have a lot of traditional painting experience, so i cant really give super helpful feedback either

>>2623669
What forum do you suggest ?

>>2623677
any forum that knows van gogh.

>>2623669
stop projecting.

>>2623679
lol. caught me.
i knew i could get a few negative reviews before someone said something.

>>2623618
Lovely impressionist windmill (I'm guessing Mondrian inspired?) but the background trees on the right are too lively and make them look closer than they should as well as distract the eye from the main focus. I'd just replace them with empty space but if you want to keep them I suggest a greyer, bluer colour.
Either keep up the good work!

>>2622776
This is the fucking problem with /ic/. There's too many beginners shitting on others for no reason

>>2623759
You are part of the problem.

>>2622761
Hey guys I'm >>2622761

I was wondering if I could get some feedback. I know my work is bad and all but I'd appreciate it.

>>2620365
Fucking 10/10 anon, bonus points for having the background be the same shade as peanut butter. And don't knock yourself over the subject matter being "uninteresting", I honestly think it's really cool when artists focus all their attention on what others would usually just gloss over.

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Her Garden

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R. Simonova

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The Restaurant

>>2622761
I like this a lot, keep going!

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How can you even pick your best?

>>2622794
man this really makes me want to get back to how I used to paint

fuck me if that shit doesnt take 10 years though,
I aint got no time for that.

>>2623873
Umm every artist knows which is their best work. They know how they went up and down and up and down with each work, gradually improving.

This work that you posted is very good but I doubt it's yours. Show us a plethora of equally good works, since you have so many you can't pick which one.

>>2622794
how large was the file that you worked?

>>2620305
Watching someone trying to have a conversation with you always reminds me of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTd4dkeEvFU

>>2623884
>Umm every artist knows which is their best work
lmao no

>>2623884
I have no idea which one is my best personally. I find it extremely hard to tell which pieces will be received well and which won't.

Basically I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>2623894
Then prove it. Show us equally good works because you can't decide which is your best.

Something tells me that work is not yours and you are not a real artist.

>>2623766
Finish something. Are sketchy work ups really your best work?

>>2623901
>y-you're not a real artist!

stop it

>>2623900
You must be able to decide which is your best regardless of other people's opinions or how well it is received. If you are an artist you would have strong opinions about the works you created.

Personally I don't care what others say about my work. I have strong opinions about my own works. I know which is my best, what represents the best in me, the works I spent 2 months on. You lack this dedication and attachment to your works, it seems.

>>2623904
Sure I will stop and conclude that work is NOT YOURs. You fail to provide more works of similar style. End of discussion.

>>2623906
I'm completely undedicated to my work once it's finished. I have a near obsession with it while I'm working on it, but grow bored of it quickly once it's finished and I've moved on to something new.

I never understood people clinging to their old pieces. Sure, I'll look back on my weak parts if I'm trying to improve something specific, but I often give my work away or pile it in a closet once it's done.

>>2623903
Yes, unfortunately.

>>2623915
Try finishing something. Quick studies are great (and super easy), but you'll never be able to create a refined final product if it's all you do.

>>2623766

It looks like you spent a lot of time on the composition, values and colours, and those are pretty decent.

I would recommend focusing on the following aspects:

- Brushwork.
Unfortunately it's bad. I know you want to be loose and sketchy, but in that case you have to be concious and purposeful about it. Make it look loose and random but think hard about where and how to place strokes. You add scratches and squiggles that seem purposeless or are unclear and break your work. Secondly, there are a few spots where you have added outlines (some buidlings and pipes). That doesn't look good. Either work in shapes/forms or work with outlines. Mixing both works only really well when it is done with some idea behind it, for example characters are in outlines but not the environment.

- Rendering materials.
Basically everything is rendered the same way, so it all looks like it is the same material. Even the clouds. Only in the second picture you have something like water, though it looks a bit strange since it seems to reflect light that has no apparent source. Rendering materials in a good way doesn't mean you have to use a load of different brushes, for clouds, gritty ground, shiny stuff etc. You can still use a basic round brush. But it means that you have to think about light scattering, translucency, specularity, reflections/fresnel, refraction, etc.

- Design.
There is just no design. Randomly placed chains, random floating pipes and a bunch of spiky rocks is not design. Not only do I have the feeling I have seen this stuff in every single game that has a level in some kind of hellish environment, you add nothing new. It is less than the bare minimum. Also the shape language is boring, because it is the same everywhere. It's an endless repetition of spiky towers, spiky ruins, spiky rocks and spiky rocks with spikes on them. Boring.

>>2623906
>>2623907
>projecting so much
Sometimes I forget there's actually insane people lurking this board

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>>2622794
I always dig your music suggestions dude.

>>2624020
This is insanely good advice, thanks. Do you have any advice for learning design? I want to be a concept artist and given how poor my design and form language is learning design is imperative.

Do you consider hand-sewing as art?

All I've been doing recently is making toys.

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>>2623884
But usually artists opinion differs greatly from viewers perspective.

If you doubt it, you don't follow draw thread or this board at all. Please summer, go away.

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>>2623907
Oh yeah, and this conversation you had with someone - guess what. Wasn't me.

Seems like I have only wip pic of this, I should take a proper one someday.

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ehm.... yeee, just gonna slip this one here..

>>2622794
please never leave. i mean, if you can you should, please be successful, but also please never leave.

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>>2622604

>>2622604
>not knowing the "blog please" meme

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>tfw I won't be making it so I'll just go down the Shad road and get enough porn money to fund my indie pixel shit game

>>2624313


It's all about visual storytelling. Composition, light, shape, colour, texture, etc. are all tools you use to express and support your idea. It doesn't matter if you're designing an object, like a gun, or a character, or an environment, you can apply the same techniques.

So, before you start, remind yourself that you are telling a story to some one else, and you want to tell that story as clearly and meaningful as possible.

Using your sketches as an example, here are some tips:

- It looks like a city environment has been demolished and overtaken by hellish demons or aliens. There are some ruins of skyscrapers here and there, but there's nothing that is easily recognizable as human. Something that expresses the terrifying destruction of human life and the total collapse of civilization. Maybe in the very first sketch the view of the big tower is from a half smashed bedroom or kitchen of a big appartment block, with charred human remains or objects scattered about.

- How did those hellish structures got there? Did they grow organically, or did they push out from the ground, or did they emerge from hell gates? It adds depth and realism to give some hints at how they are structured.

- In the other 2 sketches you show huge chains and pipes. Why are they there, what is their function? They are human constructs. Maybe make them look different if they were made by these hellish creatures, or, if the were indeed made by humans, make it look like those things were cannibalized from industrial sites and shipyards, etc. This too will create a story and add depth.

Basically, it is all about creating a story, thinking logically, and adding or removing elements to support and enhance it.

>>2624856
I'm framing this comment on my wall. Easily the most useful thing I've seen on /ic/.

>>2624468
Twas bait yes. Feel the chum

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Latest Commission, ran out of patience once I hit their price limit

>>2625061

cool sam youn rip off breh

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also did this for final

>>2624510
living the regrettable neet dream

>>2620201
Nick?

>>2625061
yeah that's just blatantly copied... garbage

>>2625061
and wait this is a commission? you actually CHARGED MONEY??? fraudster.

>>2625699
I mean I said it was an understudy, and the one paying for it was was aware. It's their money.

>>2625707
Low standards, your client and yourself.

>>2625709
Not gunna argue with a man giving me money. It's not like I frequent this. He said "finish that", I said "can do."

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>>2625720
>>2625707
>>2625061

Thought I recognized it from somewhere. Have some integrity man, don't do this shit. And especially don't post it.

>>2625723
Fair Enough, I hear you.

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>>2625072
>>2625696
>>2625699
>>2625709
>>2625723
Give faget a break, I wish someone would pay me shekels for something like that.

>>2625061
>>2625723
It's fine to steal ideas or get inspiration, looking at others art while doing your own, but this is too much of a blatant copy

>>2625730
Isn't that what an understudy is? copying a work to better grasp their methods?

>>2620443
simon? who?

>>2625736

But you shouldnt charge money for a blatant copy. Do studying in your own time.

>>2625745
Alright, sure. I can do that. Was only my second commission ever. Still new to this whole thing. I'll take my fault.

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>>2624902
another anon here and I am going to screen shot it, meanwhile look at this other screen shot I saved a while ago here, could be the same anon XD

>>2624020
>spiky towers, spiky ruins, spiky rocks and spiky rocks with spikes on them
kek

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A gouache painting I did a few days ago

>>2625727
Neat

>>2625971
I actually thought he had a douchey haircut from the thubnail

>>2625751
Why did you even post that piece in this thread if it's a blatant copy?

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is this good?

>>2620044
damn, I didn't expect any response, thank you all!

>>2620188
Yeah, this guy got it right!

>>2623271
Old habits die hard my friend

>>2620169
Sorry to disappoint, but all the watercolor textures I make, then scan and arrange behind a tight pencil drawing. When I did traditional watercolors, I would use a light table and put a sketch under a piece of watercolor paper and would paint on that, then work back in to it with pencil. It took a long time and was much less rewarding so a switched to a more familiar process

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>>2620044
>he goes through his idea development on his blog
This man has the Lord within him

>>2626263
umm... no...

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Quite an old one, but probably one of my best. Never had and formal training or anything but I think it's passable

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Sketch from the day but I do mostly characters now

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>>2623888
6000 across
>>2624293
Aw sweet, hi Pedro!
>>2624467
I'll try. I'm a school bus driver right now, only doing personal work. Shit's tough. I really should try and critique more but I mostly come here to unwind my brain. I do post a ton in inspiration threads dumping all my saved old master paintings.

I suggest leaving here once you're starting to get traction with your progress after a few years. This place can be toxic to the point of being detrimental to your progress and everyone is talking out of their ass. Don't get me wrong, there's still lots of great advice and threads on here, but the shitpost to helpful post ratio is bad.

>>2628837
I feel it depends on your confidence, not only in your skills but also on being able to critique your own work

After a certain point you start to appreciate certain critics and disregard the rest as bullshit. Obviously if you're on a bad day you won't disregard anything and take it to heart

In my case I don't think anyone can be harsher with my work than I am. On the other hand I do traditional so I don't get comments like digital/concept/anime/porn/fantasy do so maybe this entire post is pointless

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>>2628837
you're a bus driver with work this amazing? guess ill be fucking homeless lmao

>>2628501
Draw something from imagination.

>>2628837
i want to be like you but i get the vibe that you don't want me to be like you

>>2620022
what a fucking mess

>>2620365
not to be a troll but even though you acomplashed the task of copying really well i don't see any design descisions at all and the brush marks look really horrid like you were really struglling to put the right marks down.. i can be tottaly wrong of course but i don't think iam.

tldr: it's not schmid yet anon keep pushing.

>>2620466
from lifE? if so pretty good needs some structure and perspective work but i would be impressed other wise color harmonys are good.

>>2620608
this is really good biggest issue is the perspective and composition overall. which are tuff subjects

>>2621038
best oil painting in this thread by far.

>>2622794
i don't recognize this anon who are you?

>>2626263

Source/link to blog, no jokes.

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Gonna be doing prints for the first time. Hope it looks interesting adleast.

>>2623618
Delicious to look at.

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This was a birthday gift for my best friend, we moved down to Barcelona from Sweden in January and its a summerize of 4 of our 7 months here. A4 and shit camera..
I have more on instagram as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pczepKAsnKg
Breakdance is an art right? Check me out ;)

>>2620298
animation worthy

>>2620044
this is shit. not art.

>>2630801
Lol ;3

>>2620308
one on the left is exactly my gf so I like this

>>2625763

I didn't write that post, but I agree with it.

A note, though.

Visual design is more than 'My character is a nerd, so I need to give him glasses'. Visual communication, as the name suggests, is a two-way street. The artist has to have something to tell the viewer, but the viewer must be able to decipher and understand it. I think that ' reading an image' is a pretty good description. Someone looks at an image, 'reading' the characters, environment, colours, textures, lighting, composition, etc. and, adding everything together gets an accurate understanding of what the artist wanted to express.

An example: When looking at the character Hanzo I'd say that the dragon tattoo and tea flask are really very nice story touches, but they are not things that can be understood by viewers without knowledge of the backstory. The flask comes close, as the design looks appropriately old, but because it is shiny and metallic, with a modern belt attachment, it does not communicate so well. It is too similar to his slick, high-tech gear. To really drive home the message that Hanzo deeply cares for honour and tradition, I would have changed this tea flask for a more obvious old design, worn and patina'd, with old belt clasp, slighly dented after having been hit once or twice.

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>>2619839

>>2629904
pootis

>>2623884
>Umm
fucking die

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Not the best , but i am trying to be better and better each day

>>2620165
Beautiful and comfy. Id live there, if I could.

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Portrait artist mostly. Working on my anatomy fundamentals at the moment

>>2633742

Thank you.

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robut

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took a few hours

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here is a self-portrait I gone and did

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>>2633829
took five minutes.

>>2633979
Is that a cut on your neck? Were you dying while painting that self portrait ?
Are you ded?

>>2620365
Do you have a blog?

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i think this might be the best on my computer

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>>2634470
maybe this one idk

Man of /lit/ters here. I would like to try and develop some sort of appreciation for visual art (not that this thread, or indeed this board, is the place to do it), because so many of the poets whom I most admire had a great affinity with the plastic arts, as they were called back then. When I read a good poem or listen to a good piece of music, I have a reaction which is almost (or, sometimes, actually) physical; but when I see a painting, even one which I like, the most I can do is think that it's neat and then move on shortly after. It may be that my visual sensibility is simply underdeveloped, but I feel somewhat guilty about not really appreciating such a huge part of culture. I came to this thread to see what walking, talking 4channers are actually doing, and while I'm mostly unimpressed, I was still wondering if any of you are trying to become academic artists in the old sense, or are at all interested in the hierarchy of genres, etc. If any of you are interested in the more philosophical/aesthetical study of art, if you could point me to a resource that you think could help me develop an appreciation for serious art, I would greatly appreciate it. I especially wouldn't mind a resource that includes some explanation of academic technique, since I feel that if I have some basic knowledge of the creative process, appreciation would be easier. Of course, I can speak decent English, and so I have some idea of how literature is made, and I have some musical knowledge, so I have a vague idea of how music is made, but I have no knowledge of how art is made, and so cannot appreciate it. Sorry for the blog post, but I didn't want to make a new thread if I don't have to.

I'm also interested in being proactive in this regard, so if anyone would like to show me a piece they're proud of for me to write a poem to, I would be glad to have a concrete and original piece of inspiration on which to base a technical exercise. Don't expect anything very good, though.

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Obv not the best on here, but I do enjoy painting

(acrylic, uh 8x20 I think?)

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>>2634560

this is my best work, are you inspired to write a poem yet?

>>2634560
For God's sake why is everyone from /lit/ so God damn pretenscious? Not even /sci/ is this insecure about their intelligence.

You can't get be taught how to like visual art. You grow to like/dislike certain types of visual art through life experience and shifting of tastes as you age. You probably think that physical paintings on a wall are boring for the same reason most people do: you've been spoiled by higher tech mediums your whole life like animation and video games. If you think that fine art has a higher cultural value than these mediums or something then try locking away your cell phone, TV, computer and Internet router and then go to an art gallery after a month or so.

>>2620365
You're a magician. That's not a compliment.

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>>2634588

I realize this is almost certainly a joke but, as nothing comes up on reverse image search, this may actually be your work, so if you're serious that you'd like me to attempt a poem about Adam Lanza with a circlet of roses, just let me know. I, too, have noticed that Lanza had quite a striking face, so I'm entertaining here the slim possibility that you just wanted to paint him after seeing that face everywhere. But basically, no, I'm not terribly inspired, because I consider something like this good for a startled laugh, but not so good for poetry (or at least, for the very melodramatic poetry that I prefer).

>>2634596

I write just the way I think on here, so any defects are purely natural. I thought artists were supposed to be champions of authenticity or something! But anyway, i would be very sad if there's no way to be taught how to love art the same way that you can be taught (or more accurately, teach yourself) how to love music or literature. But don't get me wrong: I'm as much of a luddite as you are, and am always trying to cut down on Internet time, except when gathering useful info on Wikipedia or whatever. I haven't played video games in several years, and hardly watch TV or movies. I also love going to art galleries; it's just that I don't feel that I do it for the right reasons, since I like the IDEA of looking at art or of being an art lover better than the actual art I'm seeing, which really isn't the way it is for me with music or literature. For example, I'm interested by this painting by Burne-Jones, but only because of the intellectual (or 'poetic') mystery behind it, or, in regards to the actual visuals, because I'm reminded of pretty women or of the the grandeur of Athens. I don't feel I appreciate the art IN ITSELF, the way that I, at moments, can with poetry or music. It doesn't send a shiver down my spine, even though I can say I like it. But if this is simply an innate fault of mine which learning can't fix, I understand.

>>2634623
Not inspiring enough? Well, now you've gone and made me sad. :(

It's for an Adam Lanza Sim Date game I'm making.

>>2634637

Well, Anon, that's still too many layers of irony for me, so I will continue to refrain from putting any effort into writing anything. Have you got anything else from that game?

>>2634640
Yes, but I doubt more paintings of the Manza would be grounded enough for you, so I'm going to refrain from putting any effort into posting more.

>>2634653

Quite the contrary, my good man: The Manza is rather TOO grounded for me; my tastes are more transcendental. You'll understand that writing a tasteful poem about a mass shooter in drag is a rather great task and, I'll concede, perhaps too great for an utter novitiate like myself.

>>2633980
holy shit didn't expect a response let alone that, thanks anon

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A message came up saying I was banned for spamming when I post three times a month at most? Was that supposed to be a joke?

>>2620558
it;s not his, it's from bahijd's tumblr, a well known animator

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I was told in another thread is better than 90% of /ic/ but I'm pretty floored by some of this thread...regardless, this is the best thing I did about five years ago, since then I haven't drawn much, but I scanned a bunch of drawings from back then yesterday

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and 1 more

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>>2619839
Nothing special, just made this a few minutes ago, made it like this on purpose.

>>2628911
nah , just need social skills and learn how to market yourself and u can be half as good as he is or less and still do much better then that

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latest thing ie done , definitely not one of the best around here but i thought i would shit post a bit

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even tho , my stuff is pretty random

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3rd one , im kind of an art slut i guess

What's the point of coming into a 'post your best work to date' thread, and openly admitting the piece of shit your posting only took a minute or two and you don't even really draw? Like who the fuck cares? Go to the beginner thread or some shit.

>>2620443
you can't be that good if you look up to someone like teal

>>2635286
>>2635284
>>2635281
I guess you deserve my (you), its really nice stuff, I wish I was as good as you! I'll make it happen.

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turns out redirecting all your art to managing a dumb doodle page and drawfagging for /vg/ for 3 years without actually making good art takes a toll on your skills and renders everything you do flat and generic

who knew?

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>>2620298

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>>2634623
>be taught how to love art
wanting to "love art" because you're in love with the idea of loving the arts is silly. its the reason why the other guy called you pretentious.

as for your issue: i think most modern people would have a hard time being impressed by the image you posted.
people from centuries ago were able to genuinely appreciate that because photography didn't exist and pieces like that were enough to get your imagination going. nowadays you'll need more than that.

at least here on /ic/, most people think of art as a craft. what they appreciate is technique and execution. maybe if you focus more on those parts you'll become able to appreciate art as the craft it is.

>>2620298
Torso and pelvis are around 4 heads tall. Yours is 3.

>>2635712
ye you will , keep at it and all make it, just dont deviate into the internet hot shit ,fan art all day bs , I'm not very good but guess that was just an important point to make for anyone going the self taught route , gl anon

>>2620280
iluvya

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Well I tried

>>2635734

Well then, perhaps I just have the wrong standards. I prefer Romantic conceptions of art as something that transports you to another realm and metamorphoses you, etc. Of art as something more than craft. Still, do you know of any book on technique which comes from or includes the philosophical/aesthetic perspective?

>>2624293
not how u hold a bow but nice

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>>2635824
Here you go anon, I fixed it for you.

>>2625763
>it would be unfortunate if his eyes were covered in hair
>one of his eyes is covered by hair

>>2633979
one work without crazy brushstrokes? I am impressed

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>>2635834
we artist are actually very grounded in the world we live, which is why we can appreciate beauty in meaningless stuff

>something that transports you to another realm and metamorphoses
is, as you said, a romantic idea of artists created by non-artists because of how ''unsocial'' we tend to be, when in reality we just want to be left alone with our craft and not be interrupted

the abstract artists are helping this romantic idea grow, and they are usually looked down over here because their end game is different than ours but share the same title with us, which in the end creates false ideas about us. You might be more interested in abstract art, in which case you didn't find the right place to be discuss in.

>I like the IDEA of looking at art or of being an art lover better than the actual art I'm seeing, [...] I don't feel I appreciate the art IN ITSELF, the way that I, at moments, can with poetry or music. It doesn't send a shiver down my spine, even though I can say I like it. But if this is simply an innate fault of mine which learning can't fix, I understand.
I like you can put into words what you feel and think and I can say you definality can be taught to love art, since I too was attracted into it by an simple idea, which, in time, I turned it in a way of living. You need to ask yourself why you want to get into visual art (you are looking for art which can ''transports you to another realm and metamorphoses'', right? In my case it was the desire to be able to show others what I have in my mind) and then search for artists which do that thing though their art.

think of art as of writing and reading, when you were still learning to read you couldn't see no enjoyment in reading, but maybe the idea of being able to read was attracting you (or you just did it because you were forced to XD)

>>2635895
>you couldn't see no enjoyment
damn my first language and it's double negation which still work as a negation

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I will share my art on kik.

>>2623761
Stop trying to defend your shitty behavior. You're part of the problem as well.

>>2620024
This is oddly cute

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>>2634623
>Adam Lanza
>striking face

Indeed. It's almost like his face was a morphed digital image. But why would the Government need to invent someone's face?

>>2622761
They look good man. Remind me of Steve Purcell's stuff. Would look better without the figures in them, You should go to a better forum like artposse or something, or maybe find a environment concept artist email critique

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Probably not my best, but it's all I could find on my phone.

>>2620443
Who's Simon? And I know you feel, literally everyone just memes and doesn't draw, or does draw but doesn't practise right.

>>2622626
im dying

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I used to be more active here, but I still come by often to see how's shitposting going,