Alternative Art/Stylization General

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>>2606771
friendly reminder that you're all not going to make it.

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>"No rules, just tools"

Not true.

Unless you can draw entirely from imagination, your work is invalid 2bh.

Any retard can trace or use references.

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WIP

I need to design some tattoos for his back. Basically, the idea is that he used to be a slave fighting in these gladiator-like pits, and like in Russia, each tattoo represents your sins. So one tattoo for each person he's killed in the pits basically.

Any ideas?

>>2606796
All artists use reference unless they've been pros for over a decade, and even then, they'll rely on reference from time to time. Shut up and get back to drawing.

>>2606802
all artists use reference. Pros for over decades use reference. Artists in their 80s use reference.

There are a few that don't, but they are by far the minority. So don't even bother being all "but xxxx doesn't use ref!"The fact remains that reference, even if they are live models as in leyendecker's case, is an artists best friend.

>>2606800
I think you've thought about this, but something that stacks up and together forms a nice pattern. How about a skull to which you add a snakes-cale for each person? How about just feathers? Tears? Knives? Columns with horizontal stripes?

>>2606809
That's what I said. But someone is bound to bring up Kim. Or those artists who draw the same thing over a million times without reference.

Anyone who draws knows that drawing without ref look meh, and has tons of errors looks bland, etc... Drawing using ref, looks friggin boss as fuck, and makes you feel proud of your own work.

The only people who try to push that who, "you suck if you use ref" are the same people who push "you'll never make it" and typically don't draw. If those people spent half as much time drawing as they spent shitposting, they'd have seen a noticeable improvement in their work already.

>>2606810
It's for a comic, so whatever it is, it needs to form a nice silhouette that's easy to draw during fight scenes. I know that one thing is key, the centerpiece of the tattoo will be something larger than the rest, and symbolic of the person who taught him how to fight. I thought that the idea that he was forced to kill people dear to him, like friends and such, during his years in the pits would make an interesting character trait. One thing is having your father figure die, another is being forced to kill your father figure in a brutal death match. And I'm interested in the sort of character you can write from that.

I think each tattoo should more or less be different, in a way representing the person he's killed or the fight itself. But they should all form part of a larger piece. I think more than anything, I need to think of what sort of figure I'm gonna have for the silhouette, and what the centerpiece will be, since those will be the most eyecatching. Everything else will stem from there.

>>2606771

who us the artist of the middle picture?

>>2606809
Some don't need references anymore because they have been studying from ref/life so much that now those references are in their head

>>2606796
You dare question Vilppu?

>>2606857
Stop taking his words out of context nigga

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>>2606838
If I'm not wrong, Zeen Chin.

>>2606870
No chance in hell, it was just someone inspired by the thread here >>2602036.

>>2606905

it is funny how someone inspired by that thread didn't post that file in the thread. So don't talk out of your ass.

But yeah, it is probably some asian doing asian style.

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Took a crack at fixing the resolution.

>>2606915
>But yeah
Glad we agree. And I'll do whatever the fuck I want, Mom. When's dinner?

>>2606838
either andrae or poon or godshot

>>2606927

you got links for those artists? Also it isn't john poon

>>2606925
I think its just erek from the discord

>>2606942
http://andrae0.tumblr.com/
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=59879
http://tooosssaway.tumblr.com/

>>2606838
>>2606771

Just wait for OP to come back and see the thread.

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>tfw you cant ink a picture because of stomach cramps and blowing fire out your ass

just fucking kill me now

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>>2607125

>>2607125
>>2607127
ur gonna make it

>>2607087
>...and then she farts!

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Karcana Cataphracts use a local bird, while not outwardly impressive, has been selectively breed for its blood curdling call.

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Drawing up a self-portrait

>>2607385
Even if it's the style your going for, the head is a little big too big
Anyway I love it, what's your blog ?

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>>2607387
Understood, made a few other adjustments as well now that I was able to refresh my eyes a bit. Better?
And thank you, I post mainly at thdark.tumblr.com

>>2607385

A chibi version of a adult isn't typically drawn as being shorter, just with different proportions. The dangling legs make you look like a big toddler or a midget rather than a stylized version of yourself. I'm assuming you weren't actually born with dwarfism

>>2607335
man, I missed your work.

>>2607385
>>2607408
>Dreamcast noice!

are you using manga studio vector layers?

>>2607419
I kind of went that route because I thought it looked amusing, like I was a big toddler/man-child or something.
>>2607425
Using Paint Tool SAI, crayon brush.

>>2606821
it could be just a snake, drawing the silhouette of the snake, depending on the design, might be easy to draw for fight scenes

you could make the snake half just outline, and the other half with scales and eyes and everything draw, with each scale being a person he killed, and for each dear person he killed it could be an eye. That means, he could end up with more than 2 eyes, it might make a interesting design.

>>2607335
Good to see you again, used to seeing you around 2014. Keep posting your work.

>>2607457
Hmm, that sounds interesting. I'll look into that. Thanks a bunch anon.

>>2606921
Are you that retarded?

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>>2607518
Are you ever civil? I assume you're this same enjoyable character from the last thread:
>>2606445
>>2606484

I'll bite.

Pic related is the high resolution comp. I was avoiding it because of theft issues I've run into in the past.

It is less baked then the headshot as mid-painting session I decided on just minimizing my work with this and moving on from it.

I came to that conclusion because clearly it's not portfolio worthy and no one offered any constructive comments or critiques to say otherwise.

I swear /IC/ was always bad, but I don't remember it being this level of useless and dickish.

Guess I'll go back to lurking reference and study threads while I work on getting gewd.

>>2607615
Are you complaining about lack of criticisms when you posted a garbage-tier resolution image that really doesn't help at all should one choose to critique you?

>>2607385
>>2607408
Shit man, how did you get lines that neat? is it photoshop?

>>2607449
>SAI, crayon brush
Fucking HOW

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>>2606944
Definitely not me.

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>>2607422
>>2607488
thank you thank you

A man with no wings
Strapped things onto me
and I had never heard before
the firing of a gun
and the screaming
of other birds and men

>>2606870
>>2607720
Any tutorials on how i can paint like this?

>>2607790
It's more of a trial and error rather than a linear path anon.

Sometimes I do greyscale + multiply. Sometimes I do it straight to color. depends on my mood.

>>2607802
I see. I wish I could shadow under Zeen Chin, I really like how he paints

>>2607805
Zeen chin's approach, I think, is more or less just him painting over the image after layout's been done.

>>2607810
ok, ill give it go

>>2607750
luv dis

glad you chose this one. best out of all of them

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trying to tackle multiple characters in one scene again

>>2607615
> I assume you're this same enjoyable character from the last thread
No, but I'm really amazed too at your awesomeness too you know.

>>2607385
Very cool, I mostly agree with the proportions crit though.

>>2607750
beginner thread.

>>2607822
looks promising, the pelvis area looks kinda fucked.

>>2607750
It's coming out nicely.

>>2607841
>>2607820

thanks ya'll <3


>>2607833
and crits? srsly tho lemme know i want to know before i finish

>>2607819
yo man im on mobile but theres a whole thread on zeen's tactics rn. really interestin stuff in that thread

>>2607750
Cute!

>>2607907
>beginner thread.
means:
>line quality
>anatomy
>perspective
colors are decent, the shading barely makes sense.
have you seen the bird's feet? use a ref.
Also, with that level of stylization, it's a bad idea to make the pokebird more "realistic". It's just awkward there.

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>>2607419
Went and adjusted the legs after getting some sleep, definitely saw what you were saying.
>>2607658
Paint Tool SAI, I just spent most of my time doing lineart.
>>2607661
I have multiple sizes/versions where I mess with the settings of the brushes, just try to get something that works.
>>2607833
Hopefully this looks better.

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>>2607986
thanks, ill look into those issues

>>2607385

blog? deviant? tumblr?

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trying to channel Kobayashi into mechanical designs

>>2608060

Thumb looks pretty neat, you just need to work on your linework and accuracy

>>2608060

got link?

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>>2607656
If you're done nitpicking an already resolved issue, there's a high resolution posted now.

>Garbage-tier
Implying the image I posted was like the image on the right and not just a slightly blurred version of the picture on the left.

>>2608060
I dig it, getting specifically a Maschinen Krieger vibe.
The roughness of the linework works well in some areas, but not so much in others. Some refining would do it well, at least in my opinion.
>>2608055
thdark.tumblr.com
thdark.deviantart.com

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>>2608060

I would work on the silhouette and try to make the design a little more "exciting".

>>2608368
some serious taiyo matsumoto vibes from your works. i dig. check out his manga no. 5

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pose practice, stomach still feels like its made of concrete

>>2608503
Andrae pls notice me

also pls make an illustration or anything finished

>>2608503
Your style is really attractive and the colors are great. keep it up man

>>2608503
teach me

>>2608537
flash me

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Things that could have been done better?

>>2608554
The tights shouldn't be facing us

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>>2608538

>>2608503

Why do you never update on social media?

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>>2608492
>>2608554

>>2608521
I can't finish anything. My laptop crashes when drawing in high res.

>>2608615
too tedious

>>2608677
I like everything but the eyes. They just look.. off or out of place.

>>2608632
>light source
>shadow underneath it

>>2608679
just flipped horizontaly and fixed after a heart attack thx

>>2608676
I think the arms look short on your top redlines. Also can you provide the hampton version for those? I'd love to see how it's constructed. Also what do those little arrows mean?

>>2608685
magic.

>>2608676
Wow, i didn't know you hang out here. I wish we could be friends but I'm to embarrassed with my bad art.

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>>2608765

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>>2608368
>>2608300
Changed some stuff, added things. Tried to refine some grubby parts.

>>2608676
>>2608554
Probably should have been less gestural. I really fucked up the legs.
Next time I'll start with foot placement.

>>2608676
>Hey its "you"
> I feel ashamed confronting my bad art with yours
Are you trying to tell me that this guy is considered above average? with all the obviously superior people that post here regularly just to be ignored completely?
Fucking retarded.

>>2608912
I think that the humanoid little hand looks out of place. Apart that, cool shit man

>>2609024
lurk more

>>2609035
I'm here since 2007 buddy

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Critique would be welcomed

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More work on this thing. blocking out color for background shit, blah blah. nothing particularly special.

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>>2609293
for the guy in the last thread, I decided to show a bit of my construction method.
forgive me that I don't have a million lines for gridding, I just find that method hard to keep track of compared to this one. I build out planes for the shapes to rest in, then expand outward from their to get to depth.

>>2609302
>for the guy in the last thread, I decided to show a bit of my construction method.
hey you! well that's great
>forgive me that I don't have a million lines for gridding
it takes some time getting used to it frankly.
it helps to put them in different colors though (blue left VP, red right VP, or anything that works for you)
Why don't you make the lines thinner and with a ruler?

For the bg, you should draw it clear, not blurry, and then add some directional motion blur later.

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now with colours

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how do i properly set up the construction for a scene like this? is it necessary to overdo it?

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I drew some stuff on notecards, mainly as exercises in preventing shaky hand syndrome

Used a pen so literally zero line weight unfortunately, feel free to critique and shit on them.

1/3

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Some anons said that I should post this here. I know that something is wrong but I don't know what, maybe the whole structure of the face?

>>2609722
It looks too much like assigned male.

>>2609722
Flip it. Does it look like you wanted it to be? Figure out what is the problem and start practicing on getting better at what's troubling you.
>maybe the whole structure of the face
Yes.

>>2609722
from the thumbnail the most obvious issue is you have the light source mirrored in her eyes. her left eye shows light from the left side, her right eye shows light from the right side...together, these make her eye reflections look like where she's looking. So, she has this derp look going on. The other issue is the spacing of the eyes, and the lack of facial contour. Her left eye is at her temple, and her eyebrows have no ridge separation to her eyes. Not sure about the anime design, but her ear is very low in contrast to her eyes.

>>2609103

it works as a sketch. Looks solid, nothing seems off but you need to do more finished work if you want people to deconstruct where you are lacking. For example people can't critique on your clothing, anatomy, hands, feet in current stage. They are only indications of them but they aren't defined.

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thoughts?? had a lot of trouble with arm holding the thing. on the right is my basic plan for colors, crits good there too but anatomy thoughts pls?

>>2609595
even with that view you managed to crop feet, wtf man

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>>2604381
n-no.. you're lying!

>>2609319
uhhh... there's no motion blur, that's just a block out to pretty up later. I'm just building up the painting so all the crucial pieces are in place.
I slammed out the space section in at an angle cuz it gave a consistency for me to follow. Alot of stuff in the background is slanted at that angle anyway, so it's not really a big deal.

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>>2608765
pls blog
anon pls i must have it give it to me

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Should I use hiragana or stick with english?
Which one has more comedic affect

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Last week's stuff, what are my problems?

>>2609952
naked-oats.tumblr

>>2609972

I've heard of sameface, but never samenose..

>>2609954
hiragana

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Think I'm calling this done.

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Critique would be appreciated, trying to see if there's anything that other people think I should correct or change before I get into the final lineart and coloring.

>>2610050
thats neat i really like it

>>2610050
qt my dude. do u have a blog.

>>2610086
>not following thdrk
hello new m8.

Who is that asian on the op-pic? I need his blog!

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How can I make this less monstrous?

>>2609972
Your hands are good but really big

>>2610166
They're looking at the spectator like they were superior

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>>2609547
I like some of your older mechs since they have a little more color and personality.

>>2610166
Give these poor girls some joints jesus christ their arms are paper towel tubes

>>2606771
Can we remove the part in the op that emphasizes anime so much and bring the focus closer to general alternative stylization. I always want to post here but its a weeb hugbox

>>2606796
most artists use some sort of reference for things that they draw, and using references correctly is what makes you draw better, you fuck face

>>2610215
The title of the thread is "alt art / stylization" and plenty of people constantly post western stylized art. If your autism prevents you from posting here because you read the word "anime" somewhere in the OP, then I doubt anyone wants you here anyway.

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>>2606781

>>2609903

right leg looks pretty messed up to me. calf too big thigh too small. google 'herky jump' or 'hurdler jump' for pics of people with leg bent away from the camera you'll see

>>2610097
>>2610086
Not the same anon but-
I googled it and can't find it pls help me out desu ;_;

>>2610030
Yup, same construction used so I guess they all turn out the same, thanks for saying something

>>2610181
I've heard that before, maybe if I intentionally make them small it'll even out, thanks

>>2610242
they spelled it wrong it's thdark not thdrk

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>>2609930
uploaded the wrong crop. sorry
thought i had some free time today to settle down and draw, ended up spending my entire night trying to fix my dead phone... very sad

>>2610360
feet again... they need to be like 3 times bigger

>>2610078
get reference for the hands.

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Are my evees cute or retarded? Am I really off on the perspective? :(

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>>2610360
bigger feet, and sexy feet
left leg should be furter ahead as it's straight and likely the same lenght as the right one, make a grid to check

make it so the hair deforms when the arm contacts it, like it's actually touching

a sardine between fruits is not

personaly, to make it memerizing, I would draw her left straight and up, holding a bottle of sunscreen cream upside down and dropping all it over her chest, the back girl would have splashed cream over her face, so it's fkin lewd :D

crossed legs would add bonus points

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>>2610360

>>2610630
the cranium of that girl is fuckin huge man

>>2610368
>>2610630
>>2610641
Thanks very much. the sunscreen thing is 2lewd4me, but I'll try to put in the crossed legs and swap the feet

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>>2610728
forgot my pic

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I just finished this- how can I make it more appealing?

>>2606796
Your statement has absolutely nothing to do with that statement, you utter retard.

>>2607822
>starts detailing the smug face before anything else
I like your priorities

>>2609595
Dude you really, REALLY need to work on rendering volumes. Every single one of your pieces looks very flat in a lot of areas. Look at that leg, man, does that look like it has any 3-dimensionality to you?

>>2610836
t. just read loomis

>>2610836
Replied to an early version by accident, but what I said still stands.

>>2610838
Epic response my man. Are you saying I'm wrong?

>>2610842
I'm saying you just read loomis and think you're qualified to give your shitty advice to someone much better than you

>m-muh 3D

fuck off

>>2610840
I'm only applying the local values so far, haven't properly shaped out the forms yet, but if it applies to my previous pieces I'll try to keep it in mind too. Is it not enough of a value range?

Thanks for the feedback, by the way.

>>2610849
>I'm wrong because the mistakes he's continuously making are basic as fuck
>m-muh
What are fucking retard you are. Nice pointless space in your post, by the way. I bet your shit is flat as a fucking pancake.

>>2610856
>le flat is bad xD
Didn't even finish Loomis I see

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>>2610855
some random suggestions.
keep in mind when value grouping to make the some areas stand out and to separate areas from another. squint to see how the values are perceived.
this time you also have the opportunity to play with shadows, maybe even strong ones if it's the midday sun (pic somewhat related). you can also add umbrellas and other props to help with the composition.
there may be room for improvement as long as you don't overdo it.

as for what the other anon said: he's right. your form is still weak and your pieces still often look flat. but that's a fundies thing. you need to study and sketch more if you want to get better here.

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Working on something I'm going to turn into a webcomic/possible youtube animated series. waddaya guys think?

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eye straining colors. aye.

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random lamia

>>2611119
What was your wordpress again?

>>2610872
> 51463807_p0.jpg
>this work was deleted
UGH

>>2608503
blog?

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Another one now with a bit of implied background

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>>2610734
going better, now you really should group values, while picking a determined light source that actually casts shadows

>>2610775
don't be lazy with airbrush, that's almost pillowshading

you might want to use coloured lines, use a 75% dark in lighting layer mode so it just will make darker the color blocks behind it, will read better, atm it's pretty messy.

Line weight do not help make it readable.
Anatomy and forms are correct but it's done weirdly, feels traced

>>2611332
really nice, loving the face

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what the fuck do i do, the pose looks awkward and im already putting the base colours in he lp

>>2611356
The head is incredibly big

>>2611332
The neck is a lil bit too long, and the shoulders aren't wide enough

>>2610641
prefer the original was more cute

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>>2611361
expand your canvas. it looks like youre trying to cram her figure in that box and it looks off because of it.

imo it helps to sketch out the entire figure and THEN crop. do so on a canvas way larger than you need to (in ratio to the sketch, not necessarily large dimensions).

id work on this more but ive got commissions ive been putting off. maybe ill clean the lines later.

>>2611356
the face is in a different direction than the head as a whole is facing

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>>2611356

imagine that she doesnt look like a burn victim and that i dont fucking suck at painting.

i didnt do much better but what i think people are getting at is that the head doesnt seem like it's sitting on the neck. that plus her head is massive. rendering is great as always but id work on that anatomy,

actually just ignore my shit

>>2611410
why are you redlining people

>>2611332
>>2611328
>>2611119
>>2611288
Cool shit
>>2611361
I'm trying to polish a turd too, I feel you.
normally I would just give up and do something new, this shit feels like a steer block and I can't stop thinking about fixing it

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>>2611410
>>2611356
she has an alien head.

>>2611356
>>2611410
Looks strange, but the rendering is really good. I don't think you should actually fix it, maybe I'm biased because I like strange stuff, but it have its own charm as it is

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>>2611455
yup just cutted it

lately I fall on alien heads :/

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anything look janky?

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>>2607790
dont know if this counts as well, but i really wish aswell. maybe doing a study would work. idk maybe we should put it to practice?

>>2611563
its still really fukcing big

>>2611332
B-blog?

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This one is a comparative...

>>2611777
I'm no expert on torsos but at first glance it seems as if there is not enough bend on the tummy if you want her ass to be out like that. And her back is big in this angle.

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making a ship actually look big is way harder than I ever expected. I've long since stopped over-designing shit so now I'm having to remember how to just spew detail to make this actually look big :/

>>2611824
the larger something is the more naturalistic it will appear and the further away from each other your perspective vanishing points will be.

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so i'm working on line confidence thanks to some /ic/ bro's guidance

feels like i have to relearn everything but ok

>>2611852

It's not line confidence if you're spamming ctrl+z every 7 seconds.

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Got inspired to do some more spaghetti western-y, steampunk designs.

>>2611853
ok let's call it "avoid chicken scratching"

>>2611855


That's fine, but that still doesn't dismiss the fact that you avoid chicken scratching with relying heavily on your keyboard shortcut. In the end all you're doing is building muscle memory by drawing moes all the time that you'll fool yourself into thinking you've cured chicken scratching when all you really have done is built up a neurological pattern of doing the same thing over and over that your confidence to do that one thing helps you avoid petting your lines for that one specific subject matter.

If you're cool with that then that's totally ok. But you'll quickly come to the realization of how fucked you are if you attempt to draw anything else with line confidence. You build confidence with your line by practicing basic warm-ups and form. Doing that you can do anything with confidence, digital or not.

>>2611853
Gosh I hate that. Just draw a line. Usually the first is ok. If you want to learn real line confidence, go with a pen >>2611854
and paper.

>>2611854
I'm liking his design quite a bit. Reminds me of a robotic badass version of Mr. Monopoly.

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I'd like to be better than I am. Could someone help me out?

>>2611901
see >>2611855
>>2611863

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>>2610625
I still need to clean up the line art a bit, but can anyone tell me if this looks okay or not please? I'm especially worried about the paw and clothing angles.

>>2611920
Have you ever considered the following:

-Bleach down the throat
-Shotgun to the dome
-Razor cuts straight down your neck

>>2611923
Careful with all those edges, m8
>>2611820
I see what you mean. Not enough visual info to show the bend

>>2611398
little lazy to the leave the lsu logo letters all janky you think? it's also really high up close to the collar and crammed just for the sake of making it visible. blow up the letters some and do the typeface right even if parts of the letters are hidden.

>>2611777
I am not an expert but her torso looks like it's bent at a 90 degree angle. did you use a reference pic?

also did you intend for her thighs and hips to be twice the size of her torso? she basically has alien proportions as it stands

>>2611920
Dude you're clearly lacking in anatomy so what you've drawn is nothing but blobby shit that doesn't make sense and doesn't look good. Go back to studying your fundies

>>2611943

you do realize you're in aasg?

>study anatomy
and that it's a fucking eevee which does not exist?

>>2611923
>>2611943

what merited this god damn y'all are rude as fuck. it's not even furshit they are just drawing a pokemon with clothes on

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>>2611939
I hear you. Toning down stuff now.
Here's the ref
>>2611951
Welcome to /ic/
Anon does have a point on studying anatomy/fundies. Stylized work is just an exaggeration of what's real.

>>2611951
samefag detected or you're fucking stupid.

>>2611952

I see how you would have made the line of the top of the model's back no longer visible to account for the extra height given by your girl being on her fingertips and not the flat of her palms. hm. if you get down on the floor and do it yourself, holding torso upright as possible like that you'll feel in your spine how unnatural a position it is for a person to hold on her fingertips. so it's difficult to judge. maybe a more advanced anon than me will be able to say

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hamakaze and ushio

>>2611920
I love it. Cutest thing I've seen in a long time, can't wait to see it finished.

>>2610050
cute. :3
post photos please. i find you very attractive

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OC, named Maki. Feed back welcomed

>>2610050
Do you use clip studio paint's perspective ruler or something? What's the trick to draw such proper in perspective lines?

>>2612056

looks like a character from 90's

>>2612060
Thanks, I prefer the 90s style anime.

>>2611244
Long time lurker here.

Work on your arms / shoulders. Your girls always look like birds with frail arms. Have you studied Hampton yet?

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>>2611804
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nice,ok not today

>>2611804
vk.com imnotpops
try google mb

>>2612056
Those fingers on her left hand look absolutely haram, in fact the whole left arm looks bad because you didn't even try to do foreshortening.

Everything kinda looks like those absolutely horrible "Learn how to draw manga" books from the late 90's.

Sorry to say this fampai, but you need to go back to the basics :(.

>>2611805
Know how some people have appealing aspects of their art but some glaring flaws, then they try to fix said flaw but in the process lose all the appealing aspects of their original drawing style? This is one of those examples.
The left has it's flaws but there is something appealing about the line work and shading/grey coloring. The right looks more traditional anime style but it lost the good shit from the old style.
Find a balance and try mixing the two.

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>>2612096
who drew this??

also, here's a quick sketch ii did, i haven't used photoshop in a while ;_;

>>2612096
just tell us the name, we know to google

>>2611901
draw using less opaque lines and try using less strokes in general. instead try to be more clear in what you're trying to draw. practice practice practice.
horrible gesture with that neck btw.

>>2612099
>>2612138
dumb ass

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>>2612096
>>2612099
>>2611332
How artists who don't study anatomy draw cute and simple like this? Some kind of talent? What the secret?

>>2612217
If you draw enough bodies, you are gonna improve. Just because they don't sit and a room and draw and dissect corpses, it doesn't mean they don't study anatomy.

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>>2612244
>it doesn't mean they don't study anatomy.
I know that Pops doesn't study anatomy because he's фaгит.

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>>2611920
>>2611943
>>2611951
Don't be a jerk. aasg =/= I don't study
>fucking eevee which doesn't exist
that doesn't mean it would have a blob for a broken wonky skeleton
>what are rabbits what are pomeranians what are other small mammals
You need to work on getting the body right before you add a jacket.

>>2611951
Grow a thick skin and a brain or gtfo. You wouldn't be getting this shit if you weren't being such a little bitch on top of being retarded.

The fact that you think you don't need anatomical knowledge/fundies because it's aasg and that things from imagination don't have underlying fundamentals just shows how incredibly retarded you are. Seriously do the world a huge favor and kys.

>>2612162
Thank you. Necks do give me a bunch of trouble.

>>2612217
Cute referenses

>>2610050
is that merc_wip's face on the screen

>>2612217
>What the secret?
Draw a lot and copy a lot

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Any advice for this piece?

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>>2612579
the perspective underneath of the hat, along the front of the head, seems out of whack. it looks weird because it's on a different angle to the lines surrounding it (the building behind it and also the mouth).
if the hat looked more visibly crooked on the head it would work, but the rest of it looks perfectly centered so it's confusing to look at.

also in the final version, will the smoke only be going behind the flag, and not in front?

nice idea btw. liking the color choices. would love to see it with some colored lines as well.

>>2612613
>also in the final version, will the smoke only be going behind the flag, and not in front?
you mean the pseudo-transparency? I'm not sure, it's an "accident" due to painting with a not fully opaque brush; in principle flags can be partly transparent, but I guess it would be better if it was opaque?

Thanks for the cap tip!

Is the linework not insufferable? It's a bit shitty because it's a scan, but I'm hesitating to continue like that for the next illustrations.

Sorry I forgot to resize btw...

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while we're on the topic of perspective, do you guys know of any decent tutorials on fish-eye perspective?

>>2612579
Have the bear stand straight up instead of that angle which creates an unpleasant tangent with the building and makes the flag the primary focal point instead of the secondary

>>2612283
its all in the wrist!

arm, and shoulder.

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Little drawing that came out nice

>>2611783
Cute hamakaze bro

>>2612217
They've studied anatomy so much that they know how to bend it to their advantage.

>>2613018
crazy good stuff. looks like how my depression and anxiety feel.

>>2613020
thank you!

>>2613018
Nice filter.

>>2611244
babuhands

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destroy my crappy hand Anons

>>2613050
mouth placed too high to be aesthetically pleasing.

love the hat. it has real weight to it.

hand looks like it's digging in real good. hope to see variant with blood running down her arm.

overall impression: study basic forms. few anatomical landmarks are placed correctly.

>>2612067
he hasn't studied anything

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Is studying anime all you need to do to switch to that style?

>>2613060
it seems clear that he or she has at least studied anime faces.

>>2613046
it looks like that photoshop filer?

>>2613062
I've never studied anime and I can draw animu, you just need fundies, to get close to a style you just need a collage of anime styles you fucking want to take inspiration from (not copying)

this is also the proccedure to do anatomy properly, or draw seriously anything else

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oops i forgot the pic the first time

can someone tell me if anything in this looks wrong and if there's anything i can add?

anatomy isn't that big a deal because i'm going to be 3d modelling it anyway.

>inb4 feet and hands
i have to go borrow someone's shoes as a ref before i do the feet and i haven't worked out whether i want to do something with the hands yet

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rough colour

>>2613106
>I've never studied anime and I can draw animu
Post some animu

>>2613062
Don't listen to that other anon, study anime and really work on super clean gestures. Weebshit is dependent on pretty, elegant lines- copy stuff you like and absorb the styles the best you can til it sticks.

>>2613319
>I, for one, welcome our smug, non-giant loli overlords

Are those Mantine and a Kingdra in the background? Typical Johto baby.

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I went mad with colors, does it make sense?

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Opinions? Criticism? Suggestions?

>>2613441
no.
too dark
too reddish

>>2606800
Tattoos are cool and all, but you have a serious case of muscle constipation drawing. Stop learning from western superhero comics and pick up Proko or Hampton before it's no longer treatable.

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why is it that cell shading is appealing to do but in the end its not anything impressive? Not to sound pretentious but after this piece I can only feel like I have a hunger to change how I draw entirely, more realistically in search of something I suppose. I think it has a 'cool' vibe or whatever but really shouldn't all art be beautiful? Am I crazy? Is drawing this stuff meaningless?

>>2613540
maybe you wouldn't hunger to do better if you actually cell shaded better
look at that shoulder its flat as a pancake, this ugly girl has no bones

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>>2613540
-stronger drawing will help with cel shading.
-good range/spread of value helps as well.
-shadow shapes are also a big help.
you failed at all three, so yeah.
with those three factors alone you can get a fairly wholistic coloring. if you then just paint or airbrush a little more, you'll get even better results.

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thoughts?

>>2613848
i like the last pose and the skinny jeans. the shoes rock, really good, everything else is a little off, but i see its just a quick sketch out! i wanna see more fleshed out versions of Nolt!

>>2613446
the nose mouth is kinda uhh... different. bad foreshortening on the right arm, legs\feet are not there ore hes doing a dance? the perspective is nice, it looks like he's actually standing on the square! do some more work, it looks like you spent 5 minutes on the thing!!!

>>2613441
>>2613454
he is right, but if it was just lighting on that layer, maybe some saturation or someshit... might look good. As, a first paint over the colors are not base for samus, also the right eye is kinda big and outa perspective, but so is the right, still looks fuckin awesome!

>>2613121
it feels like the legs are to small or the torso is to long, but that could just be me! looks pretty good other than that, maybe the shoulders are to close to the body?

>>2612890
i like the foreshortening on the left arm, good shit, reminds me of old batman comics!

>>2612320
good sketch, finish it! heads i lil bit too big for the body, unless thats what you are going for? doesn't really take away from the sketch.

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>>2613888
Oh thanks. This is how it looks now.
I guess I should explain that kid is standing on water and the reflection supposed to be a reflection of a different kid looking down (towards the viewer) and a monster behind him. I just assume it's kind of hard to see because it's just a sketch yet

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>>2606771
i think this is the right place to post this?

I have been trying to get back into art after a few year absence, this is me just trying to draw and shit. I'm not really sure if i should finish it, its still a pretty early W.I.P!

sorry for the shitty phone pic.

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w-what if there was a college au where juri was really shy and anxious and chunners was a really dominant & popular girl a-and instead of hating each other they kinda secretly like had crushes on each other
j-just for laughs ha ha

>>2613848
really good imo, love the angularity, gettin mad jsr/motorcity/ronald wimberly/daisuke nakayama vibes along with a few other artists i can feel in your work, it's a very pleasing combination yet still very original/unique

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>>2613913
sorry resize and cropped off the top for now.

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>>2613885
Yeah i see where you are coming. Also here i have more.

>>2613933
I can see where you made the those connections. Thank you!

>>2613933
oh shit, apologies, that sketch got fucked by jpg compression >:c

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I think it came out ok

>>2613947
it looks like nolt! nice consistency!

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Made a demon man beast.

I really want to get away from using linework to create form in my art an depend more on the rendering process and lighting to actually bring about form. I really like the way some artist like Ovopack render and this obviously comes from much mileage, and studies, but what's a good way towards this goal? Should I try rendering from roughs and reference more, and just do studies? This is probably more a /beg/ question than anything so I apologize.

Also should I stop using MS5 and instead use Photoshop for this? MS5 is less taxing on my CPU, but I find it's really only more beneficial for its stabilization and rendering doesn't ever really come out as nice. (also quick commands on PS don't work for me)

>>2613991

That's really hard to read.

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>>2613898
thanks, was going for a silver age look.

warm up drawing that I like.

i changed the sleeves and did the shoes (which are too small to detail unfortunately)

>>2613895
fixed them

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>>2614222
fuck i forgot the picture again

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drew some anime figures (thanks wonfest) to get a better sense of 3d (and proportions) in anime style
the only one I like here is the top right

new thread >>2614246
>>2614226
I like the girl in the chair.

>>2613952
was gonna ask you for your blog etc but then twitter stepped in and recommended one of your posts, spooky

>>2613991
i think its hard to read because your line weight is sporadic, like when the legs meet the bat and the arm its kinda hard to make things out

>>2612320
This is great

>>2611398
lsu? another LA drawer here? yippee

>>2612699
grid