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Last thread: >>2567426 >>2567426

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, do you know the mahou kotobas that turn it all upside down?

>Fresh off the boat? Get back on the boat and read THIS:
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

>/ic/s (new) sticky:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfDTpLLVl5bWUGWguswKpPFml533luI8-NBd1EGYHnA/edit
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/
>Pose Practice
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”
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Besides books of fundamentals Is there anything that assumes you know that and actually explain and or teach the aesthetics of manga/anime and isn't simply just books of anime drawings and character turnarounds?

I've been trying to make a new personal style hybridizing anime with my western style for a comic.

Past that anyone come by the Heroes & Heroines Japanese Character design book?
I like the series variety in it.
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>>2574535
>posting your own art as the OP
bad form
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>>2574636
Is that your fox?
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>>2574715
this tbqhfam. I like the text tho.
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>>2574762
especially since there was a pretty decent amount of art to be picked from the thread
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>>2574761
Yea, le ole hybrid style I mentioned.

>>2574767
I think it should be a small collage "9 square?" of a few of the pieces in the last thread would be better, it would actually show a variety of styles.
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>>2574535
>fucking tripfag posts his own shitty image as OP
Why am I not surprised
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>>2574769
sure, or 3 pieces side by side. hell just picking one at random would be better
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>>2574636
>Past that anyone come by the Heroes & Heroines Japanese Character design book?

I have it, and its no more than 2 pages of promo art per game for a variety of games and anime. You can get more on the net.

Btw, there are many on the lists that would get bashed on /ic/ and maybe even in the /beg/ thread.
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>>2574535
There are a lot of issues with this image not counting using your own art as the OP. There's nothing wrong with simplifying things, but if you're going to do it, it needs to look clean and intentional.
There is very little value structure/ variation here and material identification is completely absent. Meaning there isn't much to tell us about forms and the hair doesn't look like hair and the skin doesn't look like skin. If you fill a new layer with black and set the mode to saturation, you'll see what I mean.
Also, the hair's value range is about the same as the skin. Value organization helps sell differences in materials. Except for the "headband" everything in the image falls between 10% gray to 40% gray value wise. This is why your drawing looks washed out. Try to think about your darkest darks and your lightest lights. How material behaves when you shine light on it is important, too. Subsurface scattering is an example
Then there's the anatomy. It seems like you're not certain about how the body is put together, so you hide it by obscuring major forms in shadow. The "keystone" part of the nose and it's relation to the eye socket is a big offender here. Turning arms and torsos into blobs does not solve the issue. Try to keep a mid line so features don't skew towards one side of the face/ torso.
Gathering reference and learning how to control your edges (lost, soft, hard) can help with this. Using dolls as reference might help since the features are already exaggerated and the forms are easier to see.

Hope this critique was helpful.
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>>2574845
woa, so you create a new thread with your own art and you get a super good crit in return? what a sweet deal.
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>>2574842
> I have it

Cmon anon don't be like that bless me with a pdf/link or something it's literally one of the last books I have to get besides Masters of Anatomy and Tactics Ogre in the style department, so please i don't care what /ic/ thinks and thanks I appreciate it.
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I'm trying to plan out my colors and composition
any feedback/ideas would be awesome
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>>2574881
Haha, I typed you like a paragraph then the box turned red right when I his backspace and deleted it all. Shucks.
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>>2574886
aw
i-its the thought that counts i guess
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>>2574857
Don't get it seriously. Take this sample.
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>>2574895

So basically it's just character sheets and promo art?
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>>2574902
Yes. Only that. 2-3 pages per IP, everything that you can find on the internet.

I got it because it was cheap and I had all the books I wanted, but I do not recommend.
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>>2573790
Had a pokebowl for lunch today.
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>>2574974
Blog friend? She's my new waifu, and I'd like to see more from her creator.
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>>2574974
I enjoy your style but I dont enjoy your edge
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>>2574981
Blog is here >>2552678

>>2574983
I'm trying to draw from imagination more and with some kind of purpose. I dug deep and all I got was making lunch look gross... I'm open to other suggestions...
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>>2574989
Ha, seems I'm already following you. Haven't opened tumblr in a while, not much fun.
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>>2574974
I'm legitimately grossed out by you tableguy 11/10
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>>2574989
You're going to cringe when you look back at your art a few years later. Do yourself a favor and drop the edge.
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>>2574881
thats enough for tonight
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ayy

are we moving to the other alt/thread then or what?

>>2574845
thx for the feedback!
desu senpai hands are still blobs
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>>2574636
You can't teach anime. It's a word that refers to a specific region than any style. It's better to study different professional artists and adapt that into your own work. Some good books would be Capcom Design Works, SF25, Robot, Pixiv Almanac, and the Ys art book. I'll also suggest Akira Club just because Otomo's art is godlike.
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>>2575109
use this one

remember to put the subject in next time for ctrl+f
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>>2575127
Now anon spare me the stickler lecture.

Pic related, I'm looking for something that may go into detail with specific details.

I've been doing the bit of taking parts of styles to change and create my own for 2 years now.

I have a few of those and thanks for your suggestions.
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Would appreciate any comments about proportions/perspective on the figure.
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>>2575477
can you explain and defend what you're doing there with that grid?

Lol you're using grid to place hips/shoulders, and you're using 2 points in the horizon that make a huge distorsion because both of them are so close/your figure is outside the area between those dots that is keep things without distorsion

just read the principles behidn perspective distorsion and you will get it

use the grid to understand where is the floor, not to rely on them all the paralels of your figure, that's horrible
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>>2575535
not that guy but jesus christ you are smug for the level of skill youre displaying.
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>>2575477
Andrew Loomis pg. 30 - 49 are all about this and studying it will probably net you a lot of information

http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Loomis%20Figure%20Draw.pdf

Right feet feels a bit too smaller compared to the left one, and also a bit weird as the entire body is quite 3 dimensional and the right leg feels very flat

I see that you're trying to go for a dynamic pose, you could push that a bit further as well
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>>2574535
>>2575535
Uncanney valley.
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Finally finished a difficult term and doing something fun. been looking at it too long tho. any quick comments?
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How does this look except for the left arm?
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>>2575749
woah friend, resize next time
its alright, but the gesture overall is pretty weak and the right arm looks like its just stuck on there. the head and neck look really awkward too, like you kept brushing over the same area because you couldnt figure out exactly how that section works. i recommend looking at some refs and just trying it again, but quicker
no need to spend a long time on something like this
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>>2575602
>>2575773
What this guy said, try to amp up the gesture a bit
Also redlined it a bit, I hope its al right, I'm quite tired so I'm not sure if I did it proper

Perhaps you're rushing a bit too fast, try to get the gesture right first, then the proportions, then try to build ontop of the basic shapes such as cylinders, boxes ect.

20% of work is 80% of the product, so take your time to figure out how the shapes are build
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>>2575749
ment for
>>2575787
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>>2575787
what a shit redline
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>>2575791
It ain't bad but it's not the best I've ever seen
at least it's someone better with proportions than the one who drew it so they'd be improving noticeably
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>>2575787
your arms are too long.
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Prelim sketch for the Character Design Contest thing. Needs another pass but thought I'd come for feedback before I started
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>>2575817
that head perspective
there's no way it's fitting on that neck
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>>2575817
>punk Sailor Moon
Redesign contest?

Right upper arm needs to connect to shoulder
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>>2575824
fair. might push the head down a bit to better fit on neck. some of the perspective issues may also be caused by the squash/stretch of the face.

>>2575836
yeah, thats the prompt this month
also her right or viewer's right?
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>>2575773
Fuck my bad, dunno why I didn't think of that.

Yeah I agree, I guess starting over is best to try to get the gesture better.

>>2575787
Thank you, that helped me see why this was looking wrong to me. I'm going to try doing a new gesture and I'll post again when I get some progress. Thank you
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>>2575838
Her's, this is what I meant
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>>2575749
Try to practice doing smooth lines.
Ctrl+Z if you must.
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>>2575535
Maybe you should stop polishing this turd and start over with a stronger drawing. That way you can focus on making the structure accurate instead of blindly rendering. It's not looking good and you're still making the same mistakes mentioned before.
Also, do yourself a favor and deflate that ego otherwise you'll keep making mediocre deviantart tier work. Self critique is the best tool for improvement, but it doesn't work if you think you're hot shit
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>>2575862
Alright, thank you anon
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>>2574535
>Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”

Already off to a great start
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what im currently working on, OC named Maki.
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>>2575908
well, can't complain after doing OP drama, won't make excuses :'/, but don't get confused, I'm not smug

dat critique of mine might not be too soft, the point is that it's his mistakes are not related with lazyness/lack of focus/skill, the problem there is relying on a completly wrong interpretation of foundations
he should guess the vanishing points of this guy's critique >>2575905

I didn't plan to keep working on it, the point was to make a pic quickly because I need a workflow with more confidence, and yep, there are a lot of mistakes, it hurts to see it today

>>2575035
great thumb, legs fall short on your wip, better shape/shadows at the thumbnail on that skirt/legs

>>2574974
gj kek
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>>2576098
the girl weapon looks like ocming from the elbow
the direction/vanishing points of the arm/weapon doesn't match the articulation
cross eyes, reaction kill it mostly
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>>2576098
Could you explain why you post in both threads?
When it belong to nowhere? There's no point trying things that are so ambitious and complex when your fundamentals are so lacking.
Do you realize you don't even know how to draw a line? This line quality is so bad that the only excuse would be a muscular degenerative illness.
But it's not enough, you have to put this with absence of taste for colors, your complete obliviousness for perspective, grotesque anatomy, in a completely retarded package.
There's a reason people don't reply to you. They don't want to lose their time on somebody who, given is current output, seem hopeless. Not because you're bad, mind you; because you do everything in such a retarded manner that it seem impossible to imagine that you can understand any helpful advice.
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Having a short attention span is suffering
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OC sketch. Critique is much appreciated.

I need some newer brushes for blocking (not this pic). I may just suck, but I feel like the brushes provided in Manga Studio 5 are a bit lacking for actually coloring.
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>>2576179
jesus christ you said a lot of unessecary stuff.

>>2576098
-wobbly lines in almost every area of the drawing
-right-girls tighs are horrid looking sausages. you don't seem to know the anatomy of the area
>left-girs face is a catastrophe. study the structure of the head and face, look up refs when it comes to difficult angles.
-BG is a complete afterthought and it doesn't even fit with the rest of the image

all in all i do like what you attempted with the girl on the right. but you didn't have any ideas for the rest of the drawing it seems.

>>2575477
that proportion grid is wrong. remember that different head sizes result in different proportions.
you're like 4-5 heads tall. the head is almost as big as the torso. both the arms and the legs are way too long for this kind of setup.
study the proportions other artists use, as well as real life proportions.
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>>2575535
you should at least sketch the second eye, then you may have realized that the eye doesn't fit with the nose at all. all in all the semi realism isn't working out. it just looks like a big head. some features really need repositioning and the eyes probably should be a bit bigger.

in terms of value you didn't listen to the other anons advice at all. it still looks very washed out.
you don't need to make the shadows darker, that wasn't the point.
notice that even the dark materials in your drawing are at very light percentages.

i didn't check it with an eyedropper, but when comparing the skin with the supposedly WHITE dress and the dark sleeves, i doubt that they cover a wide range of value.
the lights aren't light and the darks aren't dark. everything is just washed out.

try to pick up on the idea of local value.
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>>2576201
I think the rendering is fine if you clean it up, you can get a lot more out of your stuff if you focus a bit more on line weight

No I am not Helgeson
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>>2574974
Burrito for lunch today. These never quite turn out as I imagine them. The burrito stomachache was supposed to be like a chestburster, and she was going to fart on the elevator.

>>2575031
This was the last one - any suggestions on new pursuits?
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>>2576201
neat. your back muscles could need some deeper studies.
the neck kinda just fuses with the shoulders in that middle drawing. maybe try to define the traps more.

other than that it looks just lik ea human with a chickenhead. not bad, but nothing standout either imo. very humanoid looking. you could try a longer neck and see how that looks. you could get more expressive using the neck. or use the posture to emphasize the non-humanoid side. just some things to consider.

>>2576226
>these never quite turn out as I imagine them.
tablefag you'd be a lot better if you just took your studies seriously. you never ever do them accurately enough.

>This was the last one - any suggestions on new pursuits?
fundies.
>implying you'd ever do them properly
then something with ink i guess
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>>2575535
It needs cuter proportions if you want to paint an anime character in a more realistic style. Also the image needs more contrast.
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>>2576220
i sketched it, but at the end lost that layer, this is not how it is on the final artwork, might use it to re adjust it

in terms of value, I didn't really wanted to push hair from skin, dress already makes contrast to brighter/darker, so all contrast are made on features

I failed to be subtle tho, it needs sighly more contrast with temperature/saturation and value, not saying otherwise

sketch wip wasn't related with your post
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>>2576247
damn that's sakimi, i'll have to rework it
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>>2576234
>studies
>fundies
I know what you mean - I'm not mature/disciplined enough to do them correctly. If I'm not at the right skill level then nothing sticks, and I just waste time.

>ink
I'll do some ink throwback on the weekends
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>>2576251
you just gotta measure it out. it's not as difficult as you might believe. it just takes time.

>>2576249
nah it just doesn't look right. it's also because the hair doesn't follow the proper head structure. it makes the forehead bulge out. you really need to study the head and face in general.

>in terms of value, I didn't really wanted to push hair from skin,
why?
there is no contrast, no range. just look at the hair, it is only minimally darker than the skin. tone differences of 10-15% are for details and barely add to the range. you need more range.

this doesn't mean more range in the skin (actually too much range in the skin will make it look bad), you need more range IN GENERAL.
you need variations across the entire image, otherwise it'll all flatten out.
it'd be fine if you use lines to support the drawing but alas, you don't.

colorpick pic related and see if you can guess the values right.
colorpick any of your favorite drawings and see how the value varies from area to area. and they probably go much more into the middle values than you do.
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>>2576249
another example for values.
notice how the hair is darker than the skin, which results in a fair and brighter skin. it's the difference that makes us perceive light or dark, not the fixed value.
if you want bright skin, you need something dark to make it so. same in reverse.

you need to push your values more, same with saturation. again, push for range.
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>>2575535
Wow. After all the hate this one got, I just wanted to say I think it's nice. Pale-pastel pallet with enough realistic aspects to color the potential characters, and far enough from anime to make it believable, each girl with their own unique characteristics. The hair and accessories look nice. Very bold with the flat planes. I think it's pretty solid for what it is. I mean, I think it's creepy, but I think it's solid. Strong technical ability.
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holy shit man, kill me

>>2576271
>>2576293
gonna do other drawing with those palettes to actually practice that, thx for caring
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Octololi.
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>>2576402
And Merlin also.
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>>2576293
Is it me or are her hips very out of place?
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>>2576405
h-doujin when?
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>>2576406
nah not just you, there's definitely something wrong with those legs and hips
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>>2576271
I like how they hid the lips.
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>>2576226
>...and then she f... oh wait.
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>>2576226
Draw porn already, we can all see you want to, no-one cares except perhaps your parents
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>>2576600
when hanging upside down the boobs would leave no crease/hang over in the direction of the lower body, they would be flopping "up" towards the shoulders
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>>2576377
Why does Rem have 0 breast
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tripfag - the thread, seriously now

>>2576629
clearly they don't know the source material
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>>2576640
As far as I am concerned Rem has big breast in both the light novel and in the anime.
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>>2576234

Yeah I was trying to go for mainly humanoid but I could define it be a bit more, add that gyroscopic Balance to the neck or something to make the character interesting. That's kind of what I was speaking of with rendering, but I guess lines could make the difference, in that the neck is more just beefy/fluffy, same for the chest. Thanks for the critique.

>>2576222

I'm so bad at dealing with line weight it's ridiculous. Generally I would just one over and make what I want to be thick, thick, but I got tired.
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I'm going to draw rem as well.
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more shibari
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>>2576201
hey I really like this. I want to see more of this character!

>>2576222
woaaaaa nice guitar and line weight!! and everything else of course but those two got my attention first.
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>>2574535
Whatya think?


Rate?
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Random Catgirl sketch. I had near no time to art today. She's a bit too disinterested. I think I may toss some expressions together later to practice. My faces always feel really flat.

>>2577531

Thanks friend.

>>2577528

Nice Shibari anon. My only real thing I can point out is she has a super thin stomach region/obliques. That may just be me misunderstanding the perspective though.

>>2577544

There's quite a few issues anon. Namely your form and pose is incredibly off. She's leaning on her side, but her legs imply she's at an angle. It kind of feels like you made everything from the upper half in one way and didn't know what the bottom half of her was suppose to be doing. Values are funky as well. Also I don't know what res you were working in but this image is awful blurry. Maybe that's just the brush but it's a bit off.
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It's surprisingly nice training to go back drawing just like on paper, without using the countless Photoshop tools. Makes you think more right away about stuffs like size relation that you can't fix by transforming.
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>>2577653
neat but messy
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Any comment on this wip?
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>>2577942
lineweight is what bothers me the most, you really need to work on that.
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>>2577992
herm, that's true, I always had that in the back of my mind but never really bothered.
What do you recommend to get better on that? exercises, resources?
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>>2577998
The best way is usually to study other works you like that do it well, and apply their methods.

For this kind of style consider making the outline of each characters thicker, and thinner lines for the "inside". Also, instead of keeping everything in black put them in color darker than the one you applied of the side, will give more volume.
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>>2578006
>"inside"

please define
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>>2577998
you only need to be methodical
use a thing line weight for everything
then paintover all foreground shapes
then paintover midground with sightly less line weight
that's it, you have everything thin and you can add contrast where you need it, to make things readable
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Thanks both.

>>2578006
>Also, instead of keeping everything in black put them in color darker than the one you applied of the side, will give more volume.

Yeah, I was planning to color part of the lines in the end.

>>2578012
Well that makes sense, I'll try.

I'm surprised there seem to be no ref on line weight. I remember when I was young I heard an american inker talk about how he dealt with curves and specific forms with his line. It's not just a question of distance from the picture plane and relative importance, the line variation is also fairly important. I guess we have to learn the hard way.
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>>2578019
countless pro works are way better than some tutorial for this kind of stuffs.
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>>2577544
colors are ok, needs some value. most of your issues are with anatomy. her body from the breasts down is escaping from the side, and it would look better if she was standing upright instead of trying to force her legs to be folded, you dont know how the legs are supposed to work that way and you can tell you were guessing. her stomache is bulging in a way that doesnt make sense with how flat you drew her belly button. also try to avoid using those textury pencil type brushes for line work, i understand the appeal but its just making your work look messy
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>>2577638
the profile shot is really uncomfortable. she feels like a fish with how far back her eye is drawn, and how wide it is being viewed from the side. from that angle try to make it more narrow and dont try to make the iris a perfect circle since its being viewed from the side. also her nose doesnt feel flat enough for a cat, too pointy i think.

>>2577942
really cute, love whats going on.
i'd say take another shot at the panda bear, he looks too boxy and doesnt look as appealing as you drew the other bears.

>>2577528
her torso feels like a smashed tin can. theres so much weight and substance to her thighs and boobs its making her tiny flat torso even more noticeable. also her butt needs some major reworking.
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>>2578019
I can't really recommend specific resources either, but most good inkers take lighting into consideration, making lines thicker in areas of shadow and thinner towards the light source.

That said, also avoid having many thick lines meet. When two lines are very close to each other or intersect it often looks better if they have different line weights.
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>>2578097
Thanks.
>i'd say take another shot at the panda bear
I know, there's something I miss about their 3D shape, it always sucks. I'll give it proper attention.

>>2578181
Thanks for the good tips!
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>>2577528

>>2577638
>>2578097
ah thanks, how about now?
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Trying to improve my anatomy, found out the biggest problem was the skeleton, so tried to draw a new one, need to rearrange some muscles to get the correct bony landmarks, but what you think so far?
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>>2578416
do the same for the face i'd say
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>>2578416
the study is alright, but the proportions are weird, big head, giant/long torso, buff arm, thin hand/wrist
short legs
keep in mind my suggestion is stylized
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>>2578434
Appreciated, proportions (thick limbs) and shoulders flying off the ribcage is generally things I struggle with.
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>>2578434

Yeah she is a bit buff in the original but I feel you made the head size too realistic. I think the leg length/head size and waist size was better before , just my preference though.
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>>2576226
>last one
I lied, I can't stop here is one more >>2578469

>>2576485
>parents
Parents probably not... But wife might not approve
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>>2578554
Well marriage is all about giving, tell her to give you this one satisfaction

ask her to pose for you as well

now I want a gf that poses for me thank you
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>>2578562

i used to pose for my artist ex. i miss the after session sex.
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>>2578564

that's sorta hot
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>>2575713
This

Ramram and remrem are not supposed to be uncanny you fucking white male
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>>2578713
tried to fix that thx to proper cc
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>>2574535
>>>2578713
>tried to fix that thx to proper cc
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update on this pic thats takin me forever.... still workin on a few parts
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>>2578777
Those colors are bad, they look like you applied some cheap filter over your colors. You haven't really fixed the uncanny valley effect, not the total uncuteness of their head shapes.

Honestly, you didn't plan a lot, you should scrap it entirely and start by building everything properly, sketch and colors. Don't waste more time on this.
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>>2578554
I'm stuck in a weird phase - I just have to let it pass, please bear with me.

At least I am drawing regularly, and no refs this time...
>11am coffee shits
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>>2578777
It became a lot better over the course of days but I think you should wrap it up and start on a new piece
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>>2578666
It was hot and I still get bothered thinking about it... until I remember that I am avoiding him on crimson daggers.
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>>2578777
it's too saturated. way too much pink everywhere with not enough to balance it. the skin is too pink overall as well.
values are a bit better, but still not really great.
use more whites and blacks. push more. hair and skin are still too closein value as well.
also again, don't have TOO much range in the skin (compared to other areas), it'll look plastic. the skin has subsurface scattering which is supposed to soften everything a bit.
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monkey princess with bananas wip
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>>2579108
Stop adding realism to cartoon/anime face, it looks bad.
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>>2578842
Taking forever indeed but I'm still watching you senpai.

May I ask why is that thing at the other end of the chain so big though? From my perspective there's no way that troll or whatever it is will manage to lift it.
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>>2579108
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>>2579322
ignore the other anon, i think the style looks fine.
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>>2579322
ignore that anon,
>>2579337, this style looks creepy
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>>2579108
>extremely sharp blocky nose
>tons of cheek pudge
anyway, it looks like shit
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>>2579322
The face is already better than >>2579108 for sure, removing the details under the eyes made her much cuter.

I think you can still improve the face though. First, give it a bit highlight on the eye to make her feel more alive. Then blending the face skin would give her a much smoother and cuter look.
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>>2579259
thx anon

its supposed to be a concrete block as a mace. i was thinking that he would use momentum to swing it around as opposed to a straight lift... but yeah, its pretty huge so i might take it down a little when i papercraft it.
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>>2578870
blog?
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>>2578870
I broke the cycle with a gyrocycle... Also trying some new shit with the layers
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>>2580316
You need to lurk more m8 - blog is here >>2552678
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>>2580379
try to keep everything with the same aproach, the wheel and the ground lack line art
you might want to try using line art layers on different modes so it adds up to the color blocks, keeping the original black lineart above, you can erase interior parts and leave the darker outlines to order distance in overlayed stuff, it's quick and adds a lot

also don't get over excited with color dodge kek
the speed reads really well tho

>>2579402
might blend it more, but I can't be happy with photoshop blurring finger tool, it just moves things :/
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>>2580404
>line art
You caught me - I was having trouble drawing the tire treads with the right perspective, and I tried to block in the BG, but I got too lazy.

>layers
Ah I JUST figured out the line art erase trick when I was drawing the lewd faces. It's quite handy, I'll continue exploring
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>>2578777
dude just move on. it's better to start over with new knowledge than to continue polishing a turd.

>>2577942
add more line weight. things closer that you want to add focus too should be thicker. further and less focus thinner. instead of a dark black maybe a dark brown would look nice as well. watch tangents etc. looking cute though
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>>2580411
Why are you one ot those niggers that start something with an extreme perspective and hard surface yet does not put VPs?

fucking reeee
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>>2580426
Jim kung gi doesn't use VPs :^)
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>>2580426
I'm going to be honest here, I've never drawn any VPs... I only vaguely know what they are from middle school art class. They are so boring... I just remember general foreshortening rules and throw down a billion ellipses.

As some other anon pointed out, I'm lacking fundamentals.
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>>2580438
brush up on them man.
I also lack when it comes to technical stuff like perspective but remember that once you get this down it'll help your freehand drawing as well.
you don't need to be scott robertson but you should figure out how it goes
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>>2580438
Honestly, what bothers me the most with you is your lines chicken scratching my eyes.
Third place would be your colors.

Git gud mang.

>>2580431
does he look like Jim kung gi? stop being this retarded please.
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>>2580380
>implying that its inappropriate or novice to ask for a blog link

pull your head out of your ass anon
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>>2580444
I have many weak fundamentals, I feel like I'm just going around spinning plates working on the weakest one. My biggest offenders are usually faces and color / values - I guess perspective needs some touch up.

>>2580448
>chicken scratching
Sorry about that, I was going to ink it later this week, but then I started to test some colors, and I forgot.

>Git gud mang
This goes without saying

>>2580912
I already posted my blog in this thread, I try to quote my last posts so that anons can roll back and find it. Also I can't tell if I've been had by the blog trolls... posting your blog too much puts you under scrutiny
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anything to mention?
any tip to turn the "blocky" hair into hair?
mostly finished for now, not know what to do

sorry for posting so many updates, my cat doesn't love me and I seek aproval
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>>2581005
Tip top stuff. Just finish it. that crown tho.
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Quick update on this, I'm not going to be able to draw digitally for a while...

>>2578097
The panda is better now, right?

>>2580418
I did try quickly to draw over the lines but it just didn't work.I'll have to entirely redo the lines with a bigger brush I think.

Are there some digital tricks to deal with cases of line work thats either too thick or too thin? Maybe some morphological filter that helps?

Second question, are there some nice brush parameters that work well for linework/'inking'? Brush tip, dynamic of the brush variation... ?
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Very early rough sketch but any feedback would be appreciated
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>>2580979
>I already posted my blog in this thread
i dont see your tumbl anywhere in this thread tableguy... if you mean you posted it in past alt art threads then i wouldnt know.
i was genuinely interested in seeing more of your work, so i hope you can put your cynicism at ease
>>
>>2581628

hi firez

Eyes shouldn't be that far apart unless she's looking past the horse.
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>>2575817
almost done
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>>2581664

Thank you anon.
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working on some of my OCs, any advise highly welcomed. Using Manga Studio.
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>>2581221
My new phone wallpaper
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>>2581869
I really like this but I think the mouth looks stupid on the edge of the jaw like that
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>>2581005
Is her ear supposed to be that big?
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>>2581957
Thanks a lot (but it's so unfinished!)
Are you the same guy who liked the mecha-bear war thing?
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>>2581913
Had to work more on her face before going to bed
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>>2580379
Just not my day today - copied some shit off Pinterest

>>2581648
Ah sorry m8, I usually try to be pretty friendly around here.
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>>2582020
use references and don't copy them, you're fallin on ic memes
you'll do better
btw, make her eye sigh do eye contact with the horse
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>>2582020
I'm gonna assume that there's a good reason the horse has a pigeon face (also it has a good reason to lower its ear like a sad puppy).

Show the right hand of the girl, either on top of the head or scratching it below the jawline.
The body of the girl seem to be a big blubby mess, give her a skeleton.

>>2582200
is this bait, or are you looking for the bag thread?
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>>2582145
all good homie
>>
How do i avoid resolution loss with tumblr posts?
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>>2582242
no good.
face has the typical problems eyes don't have the same angle as the rest of the face. study the eyes within the eye socket and how that entire area is structured including the upper area with the nose and eyebrows.
head has no good structure. don't think that just because the hair is hiding it that you can neglect the cranium.
ears have the same issue as the cranium: you don't have to draw them, but you have to know it by feel.
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>>2582176
>>2582210
Thanks. I'm using references, it's just that the creature design in the movies is not of my liking, Going by the book it's supposed to be a horse with dragon-like features. The girl (Luna), her likeness is probably not there yet, I want to get a proper expression and placemente first

>>2582176
>>2582242
I think I like them both more before the warp tool adjustment, in the 2nd one I think her nose is a bit too straight, a slight curve inward would match better her current style. However feel free to ignore these observations as they may be quite subjective.
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Would this be ok to post here?

Just finished this icon commission for a person on youtube. I really enjoyed drawing it and loved the way it came out!
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>>2582478
furfag, go to hell. we don't like your ilk here.
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>>2582512
Wow. Such hate
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>>2582478
Well, it exist. That's as far as a compliment you can get. Not because is bad or anything, but there is no detail or something. Is just a cartoony icon with not much to criticize.
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How the FUCK do I draw good action poses and exaggerated movements? It's the one thing I have a lot of trouble with. I can't make any of my shit look interesting at all because I'm awful at drawing things coming forward/going away, and other related shit.

Picture related but not mine.
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>>2582949

>action poses and exaggerated movements

Do gestures everyday.

One key factor in making a pose dynamic is the center of gravity. Basically the figure is off balance because it's throwing its weight in a different direction and it has to catch itself. It's not a pose that one can hold.

Watch videos of people running and playing sports. Animation is a good choice for ref too, so check out sakugabooru.

Here's something to inspire you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dI5b8Q82Vw
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>>2582971
Just spent the last half hour trying to do decent gestures of people from various sporting videos. Everything looks like SHIT.
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>>2583058

Post them brah
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>>2583284
the perspective is fucked
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>>2583284
your drawing is shit
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>>2583284
they're hard because you polished a lot a bad drawing, very flat, that doesn't like look right in terms of persp at all.

it's not horrible right. besides the flatness, your colors are mediocre. textures are not very good. it looks quite drab, try to make things look shinier.

loomis loomis loomis, go to beg
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>Use a picture I really like as a reference
>Imitate it with gesture
>The gesture always looks fucking retarded but the finished image looks fine
This is a problem I seem to have. I do gestures but never finish anything because I hate how the gestures look. I get the feeling that things would look fine if I actually spent time pushing it past a gesture, but.
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>>2583520
post image(s) bruh. maybe be a case of poor evaluation from your part.
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>>2581005
Only thing that i would bother mentionion is that its monochromatic and thus the colors are a bit boring
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>>2583310
nice feedback
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>>2580426
fuck vanishing points, or perspective lines for that matter, my drawings are better now when I eyeball it
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>>2583058
>gesture drawings
>from sporting videos
YOU ARE A GENIUS
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>>2583537
>my drawings are better now when I eyeball it
you're either very good or very bad.
post work.
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>check /ic/ (new) sticky
>Krenz is memeartist
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