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LAST ARTIST STANDING!

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Grand Prize
>You drew everyday for a long time, longer than anyone else. Congratulations. You are the best

Rules
>Update every day at: http://www.lavaflake.com/draw/
>The deadline for submissions is 23:59:59 GMT each day
>You should spend at least 30 minutes on each update
>Miss a day and you lose a token, FAQ is the first post.
>Miss another day within a month and you're eliminated.
>Progress updates are ok but they will be policed like other submissions
>Please wait until page 9 to start a new thread
>Please link to past thread
>Have fun.
>Please refrain from drawing sexual encounters with under age humans ;^)


Last thread >>2467449
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>>2471470
FAQ:
Something's broken, what do I do?

>The site is currently in the alpha phase of development and is being built around us as we compete so sometimes things go wrong. If you ever need any help send me a tweet @LavaFlake or shoot me an email [email protected].

What do we draw?

>Whatever you want. At this point there's no required topic so draw your heart out. Make sure you submit at least a half hour of work or you may get a low effort warning.

What's a low effort warning?

>The goal is to get people to draw every day by turning it into a competition. The low effort warning system is to prevent people from posting last minute, quick sketches when they're feeling lazy. If you receive a warning and it happens again within a month you'll be eliminated.

>This rule has been the cause of a lot of concern amongst newer artists so let me reiterate: this system is to police low effort content and has nothing to do with the quality of the work. New artists are more than welcome.

What happens if I'm eliminated?

>A new Last Artist Standing challenge starts every week. If you get eliminated then get it together and rejoin next week.

How can there be a new Last Artist Standing challenge every week?

>This is a way to let new artists join in and to allow re-entry for the eliminated. Every week a new challenge is started. If you joined on week 1 and make it to week 2 then your daily submission counts for both the first and second Last Artist Standing. If you get eliminated then you're eliminated from both challenges and you'll be able to rejoin next week.

Will I have an advantage if I join later in the week?

>The winner of a Last Artist Standing will be the artist with the longest streak. If you join on day 1 and last until day 85 then you'll have a streak of 85. If there's only one person left in the challenge when you're eliminated but they joined on Day 7 then they'll need to continue on for another week. If they're eliminated before then, you win.
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>>2471474
This is a list of anons who regularly stream, this list will be updated as we move forward, if you wish to be included please post you name/stream profile.

>STREAMERS
https://picarto.tv/aimai
https://picarto.tv/assqi
https://picarto.tv/Containercore
https://picarto.tv/CraniumOverLord
https://picarto.tv/dotesq
https://picarto.tv/EldritchSinner
https://picarto.tv/JMGNfunbox
https://picarto.tv/lavaflake
https://picarto.tv/LoomisAlter
https://picarto.tv/magicoreo
https://picarto.tv/nakedoats
https://picarto.tv/N4F
https://picarto.tv/radianart
https://picarto.tv/Tatara
https://picarto.tv/nuckles
https://picarto.tv/andrae
https://picarto.tv/lokkilokki
https://picarto.tv/Sorensen
https://picarto.tv/lonku
https://picarto.tv/UltraBondageFairy
https://picarto.tv/VitaminNeko
https://picarto.tv/the1banana
https://picarto.tv/Choob
twitch: professorsugoi
twitch: kiaraskuro
twitch: sketchonk


Las_streams@twitch (multistream for twitch)

Streamers, please let the thread know when you're streaming so people can join the fun.
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>>2471470
artist is Saucy btw
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SantiChasca is the worst streamer.
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https://picarto.tv/susipari

animating boobens.

>>2471479
pls add to streamers next thred pls
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This thread will be assblast
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>>2471493
I gotcha pham
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TIER LIST WHERE
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>tinypic
Punished ;^)
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iinaa what is this shit? It's literally just writing, sorry but you're Punished ;^)
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Official thread music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5F6tMmC4hA
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Note this is subject to change, anchor opinions of who should be moved and why. It is impossible for me to get everyone right alone. This should be a joint effort.

LAS POWER LEVELS

10.
anon313

9.
jmgn, naf

8.
drawfaggert, mathias

7.
mmrgl, choob, turrnip, poon, andrae, aimai

6.
lokki, kiaraskuro, rozzle, eddcer, magicoreo, tatara

5.
danielm, lolicare, leo516, pihori, dickbutt, grach, tripfag

4.
w, yotsuyu, louse, larrex, rednotdead, lampblak, pomeranianclips, abc123, alekiel, luci, craniumoverlord, mikerotch, kussimurra, susipari, moose, lordslump, coomi, kiaraskuro, waxnova, butts, echo, nile

3.
7, tom, alm0nde, santichasca, soroneir, sasori, saucy, asparagus, ghostshiv, nuckles, whizzard, lace, lampguitar, ptsd, ciuchiban, riften, missing, whatisthis, vine

2.
lonku, kirikae, loli, fluffable, pixel, eldrick, rad, jones, eyeseeuk, frog, jeremias, suzukacircuit, steak, candycone, crt, cacklepotato, miloyoyo, waterball, spritist, b34rhands, citrine, strelok, fruttislam, neverthere, aestro

1.
lavaflake, tekkyjskurt, loomis, skeletonjelly, runnerman1, cyan, jerrybreem, yossy, disgustedtroll, stella, bondagefairy, humanbean, the1banana, boygivingup, jp, fibinochi, gottagitgud, koryusss, icehockeyhair, zovcka, eldritchsinner, merio, webbeva, ryderjax, sadgondola, munch, ilbaffo, squidywiggy, iinaa, jasonwaterfalls, baddie, fliessbandmann, cath, marchingfish, conor, dataizm, orangejuice, elessarsindan, mintkat
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>updated tier list was a lie
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>>2471520
>LAS on suicide watch
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>>2471520
STAHP
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Please someone be my guide I can't do it I am lost as fuck
>>2471492
please no
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>>2471520
ALLLAHU ACKBARR
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>>2471520
you shouldn't of done this
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>>2471520
DELETE THIS
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>>2471520
>fell even more
y u do dis
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>>2471520
>stuck on 3 even though I stepped up my game
fuck
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>>2471520
did you order these by name as well?
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>>2471520
>>2471533
>you shouldn't of done this
>shouldn't of
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>2471538
Order of names are random
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How long would it take to reach this level of skill?
I want to be able to draw any pose at any angle from memory.
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>>2471520
DEL
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>>2471520

> anon313
> jmgn, naf, drawfaggert, mathias
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>>2471520
grach could be higher
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>>2471539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYPhXA2zHCU
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>>2471542
I don't know, but study anatomy, construction, and perspective.
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>yfw the list is inverted
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>>2471520
>5

the very definition of mediocrity
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>>2471520
>1

I saw it coming, but it still hurts.
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>>2471548
FUCK YOU AIMAI!
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>>2471520
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>2471542
You can never reach it unless you've been struck by lightning and/or are asian. Everybody else uses references and they lie when they say they don't.
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>>2471520
>1. again
wew lads
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>from 4 to 3 to 2
surprised I wasn't just shoved straight into 1 this time
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>>2471542
At least a few years.
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>>2471554
Lightning it is, then
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>>2471520

>1

I agree
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>>2471520
I don't understand how this is ranked what are you basing this on exactly? Are you looking for whether they do something correctly in the picture, whether it's something original or not, etc?
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>>2471520
I'm on two different tiers
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>>2471558
That's next time.

Also, as more artists are added it could be interesting to split the levels more, like 1-20.
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I also figured out who the shitposter(s) are. Should I post their names and expose them?
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>>2471520
>naf even higher
Come on now
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>>2471520
>on a tier above and with people twice my skill
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>>2471520
>grach on the same level as tripfag and danielm
thats it, you should just stop posting these
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>>2471566
I dare you to
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>>2471566
How do you know?
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>>2471558
AESTRO???
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>>2471576
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>>2471573
am danielm and i agree with that

>still hurts
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>>2471575
There's a surprising amount of info that gets revealed when you post, you know.
>>2471574
Working on it, brace yourselves
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People keep praising grach, but I don't see it. Maybe if he steps out of his very obvious comfort zone
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>>2471584
>There's a surprising amount of info that gets revealed when you post, you know.
Like what?
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>>2471520
So mint kat is the weakest LAS. I want to see him improve.
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>>2471588
your shitty taste, for example

>2016
>drawing anime
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>>2471563
he bases it on being a complete pleb
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>>2471520
yo, tatara should be at least 7
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>>2471565
>Also, as more artists are added it could be interesting to split the levels more, like 1-20.
>mfw I'll still be 1
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does anon313 ever post here? I wanna hear the man speak.
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>>2471470
But small boobs and skinny LITERALLY is perfect
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>>2471580
youre fine dude, just where you're supposed to be if im honest.
but grach should be moved a few tiers up at least, and tripfag should be moved to tier 1 based on his drawing skills (maybe tier 2 for his effort)
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>>2471566
>>2471584
>Working on it, brace yourselves
inb4 no delivery
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If Mood was still around he'd be a 12 on that list.
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>>2471565
post your name first faggot
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LAS SHITPOSTERS

Magicoreo, jmgn, drawfaggert, choob, turrnip, andrae, danielm, lolicare, dickbutt, tripfag, craniumoverlord, susipari, nile, 7, santichasca, saucy, loli, eldrick, suzukacircuit, lavaflake, loomis, jerrybreem, stella, humanbean, eldritchsinner, sadgondola

These people make up for 99% of shitposts. I have proof, and I will post it tomorrow morning.
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>>2471520
Andrae should be higher!!!!
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>>2471605
I'd say he's close to if not at anon313 tier. Better than Naf imo.
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>>2471520
>moving people up and down again

Alright fuck off. You're just doing this for (You)s now.

>>2471608
>everyone who ever visits the streams
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>>2471608
>not even on this list
today is just a sad day over all
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>>2471605
RIP

>>2471608
>my name isn't there and I make up 40% of the shitposts here
HAH you suck
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>>2471592
So it's basically more shitposting in this already cancerous thread
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>>2471605
he'd be 10 and the rest of us one tier lower
yes, there would be a tier 0
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>>2471610
so, 9.9?
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>>2471608
>not on the list
Thank god. I don't shitpost but I thought I might be suspicious since I do attend streams.
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>>2471617
>tier 0
JUST
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>>2471520
You destroyed the newborn thread you monster
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>>2471609

shut up oreo
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>>2471609
stap, oreo/stella/andrae.
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>>2471623
>>2471625
How did you know it was me?
Maybe I should stop using anime reaction pics :(
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>>2471608
>I'm on the list but I passionately hate shitposting and think it ruined LAS
>A notorious shitposter is not on the list.

This is shitposting right here.
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>>2471608
>suzukacircuit
Hol up, nigga, what?!
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>>2471629
name the notorious shit poster
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>>2471635
anon313

He is the power rank list fag afterall
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>>2471635
It's him. He hates himself.
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>>2471616
someone really should ask him kindly to stop posting these lists
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>>2471608
>names a bunch of random people
>misses a half dozen pervasive shitposters
shotgun approach if I ever
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>>2471608

forgot one :^)
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>>2471635
the person that made the list
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>>2471637
anon313 doesn't visit these threads you mongoloid
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>>2471520
Dickbutt here, Danielm is objectively better than me and deserves at least a 7.

>>2471608
Can confirm I shitpost quite often.
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no one escapes my gaze
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>>2471520
I don't know about you guys but I think steak does some pretty good art and should be moved up to at least tier 4
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>>2471573
this
if you can't differentiate the skill of those three users and put them at the same level, you haven't been even drawing for a long time
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>>2471647
andrae?
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>>2471647

i see you quirin
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>>2471637
christ, that would be a twist
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THEY'RE ALL SHITPOSTERS JOHNNY
ALL OF THEM
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>>2471649
Steak?
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>>2471650
grach is at least 7 and probably an 8
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>>2471520
>got moved down
That's fair
Mathias should absolutely be higher than jmgn though.
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I'm repeated on two different tiers what does it all mean
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>>2471658
Shut up grach
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>>2471647
you fucked up kid, I took a screenshot of the stream userlist before and after you posted the screenshot
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>>2471584
Jokes on you my IP gets reset every now and then.
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The shitposter list was merely a random selection of anons to find out who the real shitposters are. You all contributed to my witch hunt :)
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>>2471474

test post
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>>2471664
>what is incognito mode?
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>>2471666
D:
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>>2471608
>I have proof, and I will post it tomorrow morning.
what kind?
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>>2471661
Anon fucked up and you're on the one between them.
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>>2471671
nice try I counted the viewers
start sweating
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>900 more posts of this
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>>2471666
You've never heard of the secret shitpost club I take it
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>>2471676
JUST
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>>2471666
>Satan is behind the witch hunt
we're fucked
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>>2471676
It'll get better after the bump limit. It usually does.
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>>2471678
FUCK
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>>2471676
See you in the next thread.
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>>2471681
>le "it gets better after bump limit" meme
>le "wow shitposting is bad wow it offends me"
Kill yourself.
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>>2471520
>4
I'll try harder !!

>>2471608
untrue
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>>2471520
what are the biggest mistakes here?
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>>2471687
much better
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LAVA PLEASE BAN TINYPIC

I'm not even joking this is pure cancer.
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>>2471646
I actually don't agree with that, when it comes to environments your stuff is leagues above me, I haven't posted that many environment studies, but the ones that I did are definitely a lot weaker than yours. Thanks anyway f4m.
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Reminder to not punish something simply because the comment below was "This doesn't look like 30min."

PLEASE THINK BY YOURSELVES DON'T BE SHEEP.
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>>2471697
baa
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>>2471697
moo
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>>2471697
and the fox go's
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>>2471520
>grach
>5
Topkek. Looks like this list based on last submission
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>>2471681
I used to believe this but it's just a meme. Look at the last few posts on the old thread, literally just nonsensical fuck yous
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>>2471694
>This single image
>Not better than anything I've ever posted
I saved it in my 'cool art' folder and everything.
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>>2471697
The tribunal today had a lot of things that I have no idea why they aroused suspicion. Though there's also a lot of obvious <30 minutes.

>>2471710
Yeah, I think it definitely used to be that way, but even the post-limit portions of the threads have been declining in quality.
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>>2471710
>the last few posts on the old thread, literally just nonsensical fuck yous
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck that was on about, some random anon just started randomly swearing and dropping random names
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>>2471713
This is really delicious and makes me eager for summer hiking. Plz come back, deciduous leaves.
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How do I get less shit at gestures? I'm trying Vilppu's method, but it's not clicking with me.
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>>2471714
>have been declining in quality
Define quality? And please thread quality when it comes to LAS? I've been here since day 0 and it's always been that way and as far as I know there's no reason for anyone to complain about people having fun shitposting, chances are you've been one of them at more than onen occasion.

You people are so fucking hypocrite and unself-aware it's fucking ridiculous. WEW
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>>2471520
So on this list what would be the level where I can start taking commissions? :^)
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>>2471718
I'd say rewatch a bit of Vilppu and maybe Proko's gesture videos. Then just keep on grinding, my gestures looked a lot like yours and the best way to improve is to just grind. Remember not to focus too much on the contour as well.
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>>2471706
tier1 reporting in
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>>2471720
Honestly even level 1 can.

Source : am level 1 and have made money from my blog's art.
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>>2471720
8.
2 if you're drawing furry porn.
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>>2471720
4 here, I've taken several $60-80 commissions in the past. You have to do furry porn though.
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Ok guys I spent the last few minutes looking over literally some of the submissions, and I've made some changes to the levels. These are all subject to change depending on how I feel, and depending on what would get me the most (You)s.

LAS POWER LEVELS

(9)11.
Lava "Leslie's Snake" Flake

10.
jmgn, jmgn, jmgn

8.
drawhomosexule, maths, poontang, wizardbiscuit

Nein.
313nona, paf, jellybeans, bossy, beanman,

Dream team.
malaysia, turnMYnips, andray, aiPAPI, OJsimpson, LotrWeeb, kitkat

Flattening 4s.
lowkey, keyascrub, rozetta, eddcer, araara, disgustedelf, interstellar, BDSMtinkerbell

Fore.
UU, yotsuyu, loose, lairX, rednotfred, whitelamp, rastafariandips, dohrayme, alekiel, lilC, suzypeary, lose, LordLumps, coonie, stacksnova, bets, eco, style

Foxtrot 5.
8, tim, lamonde, santachastity, sonear, sassy, sauce, aspartan, ghostshit, mooseknuckle, wasted, lace, lampguitar, psp, coochban, windhelm, missingno, whatisthat, mine, nogginubermensch, mikeroach, kussimurra,

Sexy 7s.
bonkU, crikey, lola, fluffybill, picksel, elDick, raid, bones, seaeyeUS, toad, jeremiah, suzukiorbit, steak, candycock, hrt, tube, ficklepotatos, miloOno, mortarfall, sprits, b34rhands, citrus, strelok, fruttitutti, neverhere, maestro

Juan.
terryJskirt, skeletonjam, walkingwoman2, greenyblue, the2apples, givethatassup, jppeterson, fibbingnutsy, gottagofast, ohyusss, canada, polish, eldritchangelical, mario, weebbeater, ryderjax, sadgondola, brunch, lilraffo, squidlyniggly, iinaa, jasonsploosh, goodguy, feelsbadman, cathode, marchfishflaps, connor, daoism,

Fickle 5ths.
daNIELm, lolicars, olé516, phimosis, penisposterior, rachG, dubfag, MRglhf

0. missedtheloo

Thank you and all the best friends, I'll update in the next thread to make sure we can all still reply and shitpost about it love you
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>>2471674
I can accept that.
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>>2471719
this tbvh
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>>2471729
Literally who the fuck are all those people.
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>>2471729
kek we've hit a new low.
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>>2471608
I only constructivepost and helppost. I'm a good boy with good intentions.
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>>2471718
Looks like other than drawing the spine you're focusing too much on the contour. For instance sketch out the basic shape/position of the ribcage and pelvis, don't just make the whole torso one form, since they're pretty crucial to construction. Might also help to mark out the knee. Basically, focus more on construction in your gestures. How much time were these, 30 seconds? That's enough time for some really basic/quick construction.
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>>2471729
this is just a fucking pain to read through.
also it's worse than the other list
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>>2471729
what the flying fuck man
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>>2471729
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
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>>2471729
It's cute that you nicknamed everyone but I can't even figure out which one is me :(
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>>2471744
I'm schizo and even I found his post retarded.
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>>2471729
>all those play on names
Tier 1 for effort, kek
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>>2471729
>phimosis
>wizardbiscuit
>squidlyniggly
>santachastity
>penisposterior

Aight those ones are pretty good.

>>2471741
I think he might be trolling.
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>>2471729
witch one is loomis?
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>>2471729
>tfw not on the list
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>>2471751
Watch those homophones, brother.
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>>2471719
>>2471732
>there is no reason to complain about shitposting
LAS userbase everybody
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>>2471757
Where do you think you are?
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>jmgn's newest submission
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Does anyone here have issues with repetitive strain in their hand or wrist? I was trying to clean up my lines and improve my line economy, and it seems like I was tensing up too much for too long. I've had to ease off my drawing time to just over the 30 minutes a day.
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>>2471761
How long do you usually draw a day?
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>>2471760

did jmgn make that gif too :^)
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>>2471729

> canada, polish

Who the fuck are they?
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>>2471760
It's not anything out of the usual.
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Anyone streaming tonight?

>>2471729
Please turn cacklepotato into chucklespud.

>>2471751
Probably the guy right at the bottom. missedtheloo, missloo, loomis, etc. Should've named them Bridgman or something though.

>>2471757
There's a difference between complaining and saying that the threads have somehow declined in quality as if they weren't shitty spamfests at the start. Honestly it doesn't bother me because I don't lurk much anymore, but I do worry that the clearly worded and official looking opening posts will tempt interested people in but then all the shitposting will make them hide the thread.
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>>2471738

I'm sure you're the former but the latter is doubtful.
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>>2471769
piczel.tv/watch/VitaminNeko just started
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>>2471769
>chucklespud
I chucklespudded.
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>>2471772
Doesn't he usually use Picarto? What's going on?
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>>2471713
That was a photostudy though, no way I can do that from imagination, the credit here would go to the guy who made the original photo kek. Idk f4m, these lists seem so subjective, I can't really tell, it would be easier if all of us did a study of the same thing, we would be able to compare better that way, but I don't see everyone agreeing to do that.

>>2471729
>daNIELm

i-i dont get it
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>>2471765
no, I think that's by deelekgolo/wunkolo

>>2471768
maybe I'm just tired, but this one is over the top ridiculous for me and I can't stop staring at it and giggling
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>>2471775
Picarto is for fags
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>>2471775
I think some streamers are trying out piczel cause you can get people into multistreams without paying premium or something
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>>2471781
Oh, nice.
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>>2471764
I ramped up from 2 hours on average to a little under 6 a few weeks ago. Since then I've done between 3 and 6 hours, only slowing down in the last couple of days.
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the storm has calmed
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/las/ses are preparing for bed (◡ ‿ ◡ )
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>>2471781
I want to try out piczel too but I can't decide whether I want it for sfw or nsfw. Are there any good add on services that work with it like tip takers and alert bots?
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>>2471796
come in and ask the owner, he's in the chat
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How the fuck do I do coloring holf fuck it's making me mad trying to actually move from simple studies to an actual finished picture with colors. I know about shading and how lights and darks show depth and all that junk but I just can't figure out what brush to use for this that actually seems nice to look at why is this hard I'm not gonna fucking make it if I don't figure this shit out though.
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>>2471797
It lets you chat without an account?
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hard round brush, big strokes to block values, smaller to detail, when you get used to this go nuts and experiment with brushes.
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>>2471801
Yep, seems like the streamer can choose since the first piczel stream I was in wouldn't let me chat. But Neko is nice and doesn't exclude anons.
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>>2471801
I think it does, come and see for yourself
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>>2471803
Thanks, randomtip-kun.
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>>2471805
You're creeping me the fuck out but since someone normal answered I'll take a peek.
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>>2471643
>>2471647
>you people actually talk to each other outside of this thread
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>>2471808

discussion should be strictly in this thread. no discords, no skype, nothing. keep the thread alive.
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>>2471807
sorry lol, I wasn't sure if neko had the anon chat enabled and the quickest way for you to check would be to click the fucking link
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>>2471811
a discussion on Estonian goat waifus would surely enrich the board
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>>2471808
B-but you guys are my friends. Why attempt interacting with people in real life when there are people I have something in common with right here?
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>>2471811
Observe the post rate of this thread. Do you think it isn't alive? But I do agree that Skypes and IRCs shouldn't happen. Just streams.
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>>2471812
Yeah well maybe I would've been quicker to click it if it didn't sound like a trap...
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>>2471815
I'm not even in the competition anymore and I still lurk the thread to see how you're doing...
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>>2471816
if skypes are made, everyone should be invited so they have a chance to be in, if they don't want it's their fault

>flashbacks to highschool
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>>2471803
What do you mean by block values like when it's for a large part of an image?
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>>2471820
But I don't even use skype.

>if they don't want it's their fault
>flashbacks to highschool
I think this is a big part of why my friendships in high school all dwindled and died. Fuck you. ;_;
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>>2471769
I refuse to be associated with Indians!
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LAS was a mistake
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>>2471823
>tfw I'm a Chad

maybe a chat that is on a browser like discord, idk I don't want a chat like that either, just saying everyone should be invited
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>>2471815
hit too close
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>>2471830
>a chat that is on a browser
That is literally what we're doing right now.
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>>2471831
It's alright buddy, you're surrounded by friends here.
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>>2471833
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>>2471833
this ends up being slow though. Like if you're a stream you can have an actual conversation.
>>2471834
t-thanks anon
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>>2471828
you're mom was a mistake
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>>2471837
SantiChasca streaming was a mistake
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quiet time

https://picarto.tv/aimai
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>>2471838
kek
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>>2471836
Yeah, so we can just chat in the streams, there's usually someone streaming. Streamers should post when they start streaming more often though, the secret club mentality arose from us just following each other on Picarto and most people not posting when they start to stream.
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>>2471838
holy kek
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>>>2471515
i intend to deliver on this btw, but tomorrow cuz i need sleep
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>>2471821
group up values into manageable sets(usually shadow, midtone and highligh), the idea is going from simple to complex, sorry for being so vague, esl.
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>think I'm doing alright
>see I'm in the shit-tier category for LAS
>mfw they're right
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hey everybody! what do i draw for spaace?? :DDD
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>>2471847
your mom

Cus shes a planet
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>>2471847
An empty room.
>doing the obvious
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>>2471847
a space gun
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>>2471817
sorry again, but it seems you've got all your questions answered, so I'm glad I could help
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>>2471852
You were watching?? Either that or you're the owner guy. Still creepy but well meaning enough I guess...
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>>2471857
What's so creepy about telling you to go to the site?
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>>2471847
the inside of your cranium
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>>2471861
It's not the telling me to go there part, it's the watching my conversation part. It's not the worst thing but I give it half a wew lad. But we cool dude, it's fine.
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>>2471857
I was watching. I think I am a creep after all.
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>>2471839
>picarto
I shall watch this stream
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>>2471884
what a massive choob
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>>2471884
>streamers getting split

I want to start streaming but I don't know which site to use now fug
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>>2471891
Piczel has free dual stream but Picarto has far superior emotes. Choices, choices.
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>>2471608
i do shitpost a lot, but not in this thread. it's already bad as it is.
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>>2471897
>superior emotes
you mean those rainbow grill emotes? those are shit
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>>2471520
>5
tfw forever mediocre
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>>2471900
Google emotes are shittier.
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>>2471900
I hate emotes and I hate people that use emotes but man, I just can't stop using those ranbow grills.
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>this far into LAS
>Stella is still not my gf
SSSSSTEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLAAAAAAAAAAAA
PLEASE
NOTICE
ME
S T E L L A
T_______L
E_______L
L_______E
L_______T
A L L E T S
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>>2471907
SHE IS MINE
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>>2471907
>>2471910
less than 1 min after each other you are the same person stop trying to win the shitposter award
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>>2471903
join me in the eternal middle tier amigo
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>>2471900
she's cute tbf
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>>2471900
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>>2471910
SHE BELONGS TO ME
IM THE ONLY ONE THAT REALLY LOVES HER
>>2471914
This is serious. If I cant have her nobody can. Stella I will skin you alive if you dont be my gf this is your final warning stella be agoodgirlSTELLAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>2471919
go to bed
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>>2471919
this is the worst LAS meme, even worse than >>2471847 <-- that guy
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>>2471918
>>2471917
her face in the nfsw stream splash art was lewd af
anyone know who's the character designer / original artist tho?
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>>2471922
>>2471924
I
JUST
WANT
A
G
F

WHY CANT I HAVE A GF
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What if Stellafag was Stella all along?
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>>2471932
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT ITS ALL RUINED
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>>2471935
>>2471654
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>>2471935
No one would do this to themselves, people hate her specifically because of anons doing this
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>>2471940
She may not be the shitposter but she did do this to herself.
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>>2471936
Is Tsella Japanese Stella?

>>2471940
I feel bad for her, to be honest.
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>>2471946
I don't know why I thought that L was a T. Sorry.
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>>2471932
Hi it's me Stella. Fine. I'll be your girlfriend. Skype?
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>>2471949
Anon111
I can't wait to talk to you Stellaaaaaaaa ;)
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>>2471955
nigga what are you doing
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>>2471949
NO NOT HIM, LOVE ME
AND I KNOW YOU ARE FAKE
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>>2471958
HELP
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>>2471955
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>>2471955
JerryBreem?
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>>2471949
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>>2471963
no no no

>>2471955
SantiChasca?
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I'm not sure if there is a standard procedure but I'd love to get a critique or two. Currently at my wits end trying to figure out how to get better.

Louse
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>>2471949
>>2471949
>>2471949
>>2471949
>>2471949
>>2471949
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>>2471973
Do you need help with what to learn next or how to learn it?
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>>2471973
I like your fundie practice
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stella autist going all out today, what happened?
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I just want all of you guys to know that I fucking detest ever last one of you. Jerrybreem?HATE. Stella?HATE. Shantichasca?HATE. Lava? FUCKING HATE. If I could leave this godforsaken hell hole I would, but alas I'm stuck at LAS. At least I'll have some brief moments of joy as you fall one by one. The first will fall in 7 days, I have it planned out. ;^(
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>>2471985
Stellaposting became infectious. We need to stop it at all costs before it takes over the threads entirely.
Stella has to drop out of LAS. Its the only way.
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>>2471706
in all honesty, thats a colour study of a painting, its hard to make those look shit.
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>>2471986
I will rip your fucking eyelids off and watch you weep tears of blood

>>2471973
I only looked at your past couple of submissions and I'm a shitter so take this with a grain of salt, but how about doing more stuff from imagination, applying what you've been studying, unless you're already doing that

in which case go further beyond my nig
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>>2471981
I think both, I feel like I've been hitting a wall for months.
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is this some sort of circle-jerk community?


is this how people make friends these days?
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>>2471994
>being friends with any of these people
>even wanting that
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>>2471987
It's probably best to just ignore him. Let's stop talking about it now.
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>>2471994
>is this some sort of circle-jerk community?
Kind of.
>is this how people make friends these days?
Its how I met my girlfriend.
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>>2472001
>tfwnogf
>tfwnof
;^(
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>>2471994
Every art group eventually becomes a circle-jerk. Most of /ic/ are weebs and sensitive women below the age of 25. they don't take this shit seriously.
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>>2472000
>lets ignore him and he'll go away
That always works out well
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>>2471903
At least it's better than being 1. I'd give anything to be a five.
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>>2472003
>tfw not a weeb
>ttfw not a woman
>tfw still shit
I guess it's a partly good feel?
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>>2472003
jokes on you I'm a sensitive woman over the age of 25
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>>2472014
Will you be my gf?
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>>2472014
JerryBreem?
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>>2471993
Do you draw anything apart from what you're submitting? Do you do any painting at all?
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>>2472020
It's pretty much just what I am submitting.

Practically zero painting.
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>>2471520
>3
>could step my game up
>will keep submitting half finished traps and dickgirls
Maybe next week.
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>>2472025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5F6tMmC4hA
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>>2471520
Thanks for giving me a 4, thought id be placed lower 2bh
>>2471608
I dont shitpost
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>>2471586
But yeah, I need to stop being lazy soon :^(
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>>2472024
Here's a couple of suggestions then: do a few photo studies and apply the painting technique to your constructed figures. Try dressing them. Put figures into environments and make them do something. Leave anatomy alone for a bit.
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>>2472032
I'm looking forward to your comic, dude. I bet you're going to learn a lot doing it.
>>
/las/ses are sleeping (◡ ‿ ◡ )
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>>2471992
>>2472033
Thanks for the advice, I'll make sure to focus on these aspects
>>
man fuck the topic challanges
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>>2472043
dreaming sweet dreams about Stella (◡ ‿ ◡ )
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>>2472046
What's wrong with them?
>>
What's up with this ligameme meme going around?

Where did the idea that it affects art ability at all come from and do they realize it's actually a tendon?
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>>2472067
Studies have shown that it does improve accuracy of wrist movements requiring precision and therefore it goes a long way towards helping you draw.
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>>2472071
wew, good thing you can zoom in on shit and keep using your elbow/arm
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>>2472091
Think about all the time you waste doing that. Over the course of ten years thats like 1 extra year down the drain.
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>>2472091
This. Even without the benefit of technology there are people with legit disabilities making art and precision doesn't matter that much. Nothing Ashley Wood does looks precise and clean and people love his art. I don't know why people obsessively search for excuses not to do what they want to do. If you're looking that hard for a reason to say "oh guess I'll never be a grand master may as well not even try" you were going to fail from the start and your wrist isn't to blame for it.
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>>2471969
>>2471986
>>2471838

>Wake up
>See these posts

Time to go back to bed
>>
lasers are sleeping

(◡ ‿ ◡ )°oO(never gonna make it)
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>>2472025

Me too

I'm just gonna draw everyday
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>>2472106
santichasca?
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>>2471520
>oh hey im actually in this one
>mfw placed in the tier of absolute beginners
>mfw I've been drawing for a year and a half now
Whelp.

>>2471590
Thank you, anon. I'll make you proud. No where for me to go now but up.
>>
I don't feel like trudging through other threads, but has anyone here made their own nice commissions template for Tumblr or other image sharing sites? Did it make any impact on the amount of interest you got?

For anyone who commissions, does a nice commission post make you more liable to message the artist?
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>>2472106
Cheer up. Here's what you should do: pick a painting by your favorite artist, something not very complicated, preferably with a single character. Do a study of it, paying special attention to value scheme, color palette and rendering technique (remember to write a huge "after <artist's name>" on top of your study if you want to post it anywhere when you're done). Then invent your own piece with similar mood and subject matter. Try to finish it based on your study and what you've learned from it.
That should help you with your imaginative pieces. You're very brave for attempting them at all, many people are stuck doing studies forever. Everything's going to be alright, you just need to keep at it.
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>>2472142
The meme's not catching on, you should stop
>>2472149
I will do that thanks anon. It just feels like a huge leap of faith when your work looks like shit and the only indicative of hope is some posts saying "don't give up" in a taiwanese knitting board ;_;
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>>2472151
It's always a leap of faith when you're trying to achieve anything meaningful.
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>>2472161
Yeah, but there are paths that seem more clear; for instance one of my cousins plays the violonchelo in a pretty high level and she's been pretty much guided in all her learning process; visual art doesn't feel like a path it feels like a giant pool of liquid shit with the promise of gold at the bottom.
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>>2472164
that's one of the hardest parts of being self taught as well as learning art imo. Anyone can grind away and learn stuff, but it's really difficult to know what you have to learn or what you're problem areas are. You can't grind away when you don't know what to grind.
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>>2472169
; _ ;
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>>2472164
There are more ways and techniques of drawing and painting than there are ways of playing a single instrument, and not many people start practicing piano frustrated at their own lack of competence that prevents them from playing difficult piano concertos, not to mention composing piano concertos.
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>>2472173
I suppose you have some reason
>I used to play piano too but gave up
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>>2472175
No more giving up. Paint that study and imaginative thing. I'll crit them for you and help you stay on the right path.
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>>2472187
Thanks anon I don't deserve people like you
I won't disappoint
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>>2471602
Are you seriously implying that these two artists are on "the same level"
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>>2472009
>>2471994
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>>2472198
First of all I know that's you tripfag, LAS shows you were last logged in a few minutes ago and your last submission was from hours ago so you weren't there submitting. Secondly, yes.
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>>2472187
Here's what I'm doing atm
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>all this fucking shitposting
we could discuss art, give advice to eachother, ask about what technique did somebody use to made his submission, ask for help...
I'm getting fucking tired of these threads, I think I'm gonna just upload my stuff to LAS without reading this shit, like in the first weeks.
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>>2472212
nonono please help get the quality up again. Ignore shitposts, give and ask for critique.
If you leave the quality will go down even more
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>>2472214
We'll need more people for that
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>>2472218
I'm with you and I'm sure there's more people
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>>2472218
>>2472221
ye, you guys are not alone
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>>2472218
There's a plenty of us: we just need to establish a pattern at start. There's been more helpful content lately than ever. Shitposting and actual content can and have to coexist, as this is 4Chan. Don't give up on it.
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>>2472214
>>2472218
>>2472221
>>2472226
me as well. I critiqued about a dozen people last thread and I think if more people did it the threads would definitely be better. You guys think it would be realistic to critique almost every submission if we split it up?
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>>2472229
I agree that they have to coexist, I have laughed a lot with some of our memes myself. But holy shit, this thread is a train wreck.
>>
>>2472229
I agree. There must be a balance, but all lists, spam, stella posts, and "what do I draw today" posts should be ignored. If you do these kind of posts please stop
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>>2472231
Yes. I will start critiquing guys in level 1, they need it the most.

>>2472234
This. We crossed the line guys, time to go back to ye olde times of actual fun content.
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>>2472236
Good idea, I will start with them too
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Why care about other people's submissions, just keep going while pushing further in your art for w/e goal/career your trying to achieve.
Fuck what people think, they know absolutely nothing nor care and neither should you.
Don't be so "crabs in a bucket"
>>
>>2472239
Critiquing also helps you according to Clint Cearley. Seeing problems in other people helps seeing it in yourself.
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>>2471608
Dude wat I only posted one gondola
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>>2472164
>visual art doesn't feel like a path it feels like a giant pool of liquid shit with the promise of gold at the bottom.
lel
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>>2472045
Hey Louse, look for the warm undertones when you're painting skin.

>>2472211
Here's some thoughts on it, mainly for you to keep in mind when working on the next painting.
Everything in the composition points to the right, even though there's nothing there. You'd either have to introduce a major new element or move things around and flip them horizontally.
You should have figured out the general distribution of values before you started painting. I know you're messing with it right now, trying out stuff to make it look better, but you really should've known where the light and shadow are much earlier. Also, remember that light comes from a lightsource and that lightsource gives light.
There are issues with perspective and characters, but I don't feel like going into specifics or doing a paintover on this particular occasion. Maybe someone else does.
How many hours have you already put into this? Do you want to push it to some stage of final polish?
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>>2472234
I blame the nuke at the start of the thread

And stella autist's unchained autism

Lots of bits and pieces
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Looking for a strem to haunt.
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>>2472210
Not tripfag, but you are a complete retard lmaaooo
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>>2472268
Yeah I want to push it to the limit. But how there can be perspective issues? I used a perspective grid :(
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Did Loomis say to draw your own hand every day?
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>>2472273
Sure thing tripfag.
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>>2472271
I would stream but I'm listening to the most god awful music in the world and I'm not going to turn it off.
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>>2470991
Thanks! I appreciate the correction, it really helps to see where my understanding is lacking.

I really have a lot to learn when it comes to properly constructing things. I've been getting way too carried away with just trying out new stuff like inks.

Also, streaming:
https://picarto.tv/UltraBondageFairy
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>>2472290
Yep, I was about to critique you on construction. Think in 3d! It will help a lot.
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>>2472276
Foreground and the girl's legs don't work that well, and you might have messed something up a little when you started painting over the sketch. No sweat, it's not a big deal.
Well, in that case you may be in need of a paintover, but I don't feel up to the task at this very moment, and also I think that paintovers are kind of icky because usually there are many solutions to a single problem and you can never know another person's intent, and you shouldn't let another artist, even a much better artist, solve your pictures for you.
I'll try to give you some ideas how to make your picture better, but it's going to be later in the day, because I'm a little dead right now.

>>2472286
>implying I'd ever unmute a strem
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>>2472286

you can mute the streamed audio in obs tho?
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>>2472301
>>2472302
Shhhh...
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soo.. is anyone still streaming?
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>>2472343
yep, https://picarto.tv/UltraBondageFairy
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>>2472273
>>2472285

i dont care guys.
also, im always logged in browsing.
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>>2472345
>tfw no gpu so I can't even watch streams
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>>2472345
Streaming the Memories trilogy
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>>2472351
>tfw trying to watch it on 128kbps
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Good sources on perspective?
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>>2472353
if you do it for the sound I can understand
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>>2472356
up. down. left. right. behind. in front of. above, under
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>>2472359
??? ???
what
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>>2472356
Go outside and look at stuff
Stand up close to objects, stand far away, stand on a roof, lay down on the ground, tilt your head, etc.
That's what I did
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>>2472363
>stand on a roof
If I do that I'll probably jump after seeing my drawings
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>>2472046
agree
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>>2472198
this guy is tier one >>>>2471723 and its better than both of those.
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>>2472375
lol.
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>>2472381
whats funny, they both should be placed in tier one
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We had some fun shitposting last night huh
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>>2472212
I really tried to at the start, critiquing people and talking about stuff but it's like this place is full of kids that just found 4chan or something. I want to think it's just one person but it's probably not. I'm only here because I got namedropped a few times in a recent thread.

It's not even a case of filtering them out or ignoring the shitposting because they actively try to stop any other discussion in here, bullying people that mention their usernames for feedback.

>>2472235
Anyone tried reporting all the crap? Nothing ever seems to happen in /ic/ except for when people were literally spamming that fmmood blog request, and even then only half of them got deleted.
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>>2472375
>>2472381
I already mentioned I was surprised to not have been placed in tier one outright. It might be a good morale boost to work harder.
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>>2472387
Well yes, it's only three or four people shitposting. I know it because I was one of them.
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We should make a las discord desu
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>>2472397
Agree. This would also be a trap for shitposters to identify themselves
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>>2472399
We already know who most of them are because they brag about it in the streams.
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>>2472397
Why ask, just make it, post the link in one of the threads one day, and see how many suckers join it.
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I'll try streaming later today for the first time
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>>2471520
I'm 4! I can do better! I will be 10 by the end of the year, you mofos just wait!
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>>2472402
>for the first time
lets just brush that little incident under the rug, huh?
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>>2472400
We need to ban Lavaflake, his prolific shitposting is destroying the LAS threads.
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>>2472403
> believing this list has any merit
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>>2472402
kek, I look forward to this
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>>2472404
What are you talking about? 'o_o
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>>2472407
It has none! But I want to be good! Just watch! I'll draw and draw and draw more.
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>>2472387
You can't announce reports but I'm pretty sure at least one person has tried reporting a few of the really bad shitposting incidents. And I'm pretty sure at least one person agrees with your assessment that it's not nearly as effective as one would hope it to be.
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How do I improve at line weight? I have been applying that image explaining line weight but I can't get thicker lines in photoshop without them looking like I have parkinsons
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>>2471520
>larrex, craniumoverlord, nile, on the same level as abc 123, lordslump, susipari, coomi

how can anyone take this seriously
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>>2472428
We don't take it seriously, it's bait, move on.
Make LAS great again by ignoring shitposts.
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>>2472413
Someone who isn't myself would be happy to hear that they're not alone but disappointed that it's not effective.

>>2472417
After you know where you want the weighting, the rest of it is muscle memory and pen control. If you want to do it in one stroke with pressure set to brush size just do a lot of those line exercises until you're confident. You don't have to do it all in one stroke either, some people treat it the same as filing in a thin shape. I like using a non-hard brush personally with size/opacity and reinforcing areas. Might want to fiddle with your pressure sensitivity too if it's giving you too much feedback.
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>>2472428
Who are you implying are the worse ones?
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I'm gonna work on some still life today, /ic/. What's your plan for your submission today?
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>>2472572
wait until 23:30 then panic something out
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That's it, I fucking give up. I can't stream. I've tried everything I have found and nothing works.
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>>2472572
Death.
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>>2472599
I told you not to stream, didn't I?
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I've been really really wanting to make a llst of actual tiers but with complex explanations, examining every submission from every user and judging based on work ethic, technical skill, and creativity. This would of course take a long ass time so I was wondering if I could post as I go, one artist at a time until I complete it. I might just make a throwaway blog to keep myself anonymous and upload one evalluation every day accompanied by a couple of the artist's best submissions. Sort of like a featured artist but everyone who is still posting to LAS will get a turn.
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>>2472608
do it
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>>2472608
That would be lovely! I'm a first week though, and if anything, I'd love it if you waited a while to evaluate us greenhorns. We still haven't gotten to the point of demonstrating any range.
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>>2472608
Do it. We'll cheer for your ambition.
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>>2472143
I know this feel too anon
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>>2472608
seems like a cool idea
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>>2472599
SantiChasca?
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>>2472631
Yes. I fucking give up man, technology hates me.
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https://piczel.tv/watch/susipari

strem
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>>2472648
>No anon chat
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>>2472651
ooops, fixed!
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>>2472608
I prefer this

Go for it dude
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>>2472036
Thanks, man! Kinda excited about it myself, I just hope I'll be able to deliver in the end.
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>>2472608
cool idea
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>>2472352

>!BondageFog

How do you do that?
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What's the status of your comic, anon?
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>>2472666
only 4 rough pages so far, need to step it up
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>>2472665
probably a tripcode explorer, look it up
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>>2472666
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>>2472672
ur fuked eldritch
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>>2472608
But how good are you yourself?
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>>2472608
>>2472610
>>2472611
>>2472629
>>2472661
>>2472664
http://lasevaluations.tumblr.com/
I will start on the first tonight but just take a look at the metrics and give me some feedback. It was hastily put together.
>>2472676
Your skill doesn't matter as long as you have good taste anon, in that respect I'm pretty good.
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>>2472683
R-Rover? Have you returned from the dead?
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>>2472683
depending on how this is done, this may just be the weapon we need to finally kill the weak oners
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>>2472683
Good taste or not, if you don't have solid knowledge it doesn't really matter too much.
¨
I guess we'll see after the first couple of posts.
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>>2472608
>>2472683
I personally don't mind a review but I don't want you posting my work
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streaming
https://picarto.tv/nakedoats
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>>2472683
There's probably a fair bit not interested, and would only really slow you down. But up to you I suppose how you go about it.
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>>2472692
I thought it was a bad idea anyway so fair enough, it would require too many requests for permission to actually post the artwork
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>>2472683
Great, if that other list didn't give me enough of a reason to kill my self surely you will.
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All these lists

Why don't you nerds spend your time drawing and gitting gud instead?
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>>2472717
t. assblasted low skill """artist""" who didnt make it on the list
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>>2472718
I made the list ;)
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>>2472720
a-anon313 sempai??!?
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>>2472608

Please do this.
This sounds authentic and helpful for everyone and I honestly would appreciate you sacrificing the time to do so.
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>>2472666

5 pages written.
I am also technically incapable of actually drawing what i want to do, but fuck it, you've got to learn one day.
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>>2472666
2 roughs per day, I have no idea of what I'm doing but at least I'm practicing composition I hope.
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>>2472666
0 since that's too advanced for me
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>>2472572
I'm probably going to noodle one of my wips for a while.
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>>2472683

> 100+ are before me in the member list

awww man the tension is killing me
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>>2472683
>can only put in the bare minimum right now because I injured my hand
>now going to get graded on work ethic
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>>2472749
Didn't know that was allowed. I'd have posted this concept I have been working on instead of that shitty dragon bust commission I posted yesterday.

Anyway, progress, of that sketch from earlier. Anons, we really talk about irrelevant shit too much. Post your work and discuss instead you idiots. That's how we improve.
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>>2472753
You're not that idiot who sanded his fingers off, are you?
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>>2472783
>sanded his fingers off
No, but tell me more. I'm the idiot who was doing line control exercises for hours at a time with a super tense hand and wrist.
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>>2472666

Am inking the first 12 of 36, feels bretty gud
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>>2472791
Yesterday some drawfag on /v/ said he sanded the ends of his fingers off. He was trying to use a power sander on something really small and the thing fucking shattered and I'm guessing his hand lurched forward once the thing he was pushing towards the sander was gone all of a sudden. He wasn't wearing any gloves or any kind of protection. Anyone who owns powertools like that should know they always need to wear protective gear, smgdhtbqh.
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>>2472802
>using his hands to hold something really small against a power tool
That was the real problem. Gloves can be risky with some high power/high speed tools because if they get caught they can mangle the whole hand and not just a fingertip.
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>>2472683
>http://lasevaluations.tumblr.com/
Fuck off. If you dont post your work first, everything you post is bullshit. If you're someone good though, I'll accept your evaluations. But if you lack skill, there's no way you should be judging someone's work. And how do you determine work ethic. If someone was sick for lets say a week and did a bare minimum work to not fall out, does that automatically mean that their work ethic is shit? You dont know anyone personally, how the fuck can you make valid observations.
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>>2472683
>tfw flawless
>will be among the first judged
Oh god, I know I need it, but the thought of such a thorough grilling makes me nauseous.
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>>2472816
Yeah he had a whole check list of fuck ups in that scenario.
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>>2472819

Better than the current shifty rank
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Streming
picarto.tv/santichasca

No bully zone 2.0
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>>2472683
>5th dayer
>will probably get grilled months and months from now
G-guess i still have time to prepare
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>>2472726
ten american cent have been deposited on your cdkeys.com wallet.
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>check views in morning
>19
>check views now
>14
LOOOOMMIIS!
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>>2472683
>Your skill doesn't matter as long as you have good taste
So your work is not that good. Please abort your mission.
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>>2472683
Please stop shitposting
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>>2472683
>one a day
it wont take you that long especially if youre starting with week one
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>>2472849
Exactly, you may be able to tell if a piece is good or not but if you're not an experienced artist you won't be able to tell why a piece looks bad
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>>2472849
>>2472852
Why are you getting uppity about this now? You do realize this entire board is based on amateurs helping amateurs right? At any point before or after this you may have gotten or will get a critique from that guy or any other random person itt. When that critique comes you can read it, consider it, and decide for yourself if you'll use it like an adult. Critiques are always opinions and suggestions, there's never ever any reason to be defensive about them. If you don't think they're right merely shrug it off and work on what you think you need to work on. But just because someone isn't Ruan Jia doesn't mean they might not be able to point something out that would help you progress which, again, is the principle /ic/ works on. Yes it's shitty the guy is assigning arbitrary numbers to it which I think is useless but you can ignore that and take two seconds to consider if any of the other suggestions are useful then get back to drawing.
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>>2472852
Nah if you see enough art you can judge it as well, even if you can't do it yourself. Like movie or music critics do. They know their shit, but can't in a thousand years reproduce what they are critiqueing. I trust this anon
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>>2472683
>starting with day 1 week 1 (the flawless) and going down the list
I don't like this, there's enough circlejerking in the week 1 group to even make a more selected group inside that, I think they all should be treated equal as an entire week, not separating days
Anyway, your blog is a great idea, go for it!
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>>2472872
I agree with you, but I still think hes a retard.
Thats all im gonna say about this.
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>>2472880
This I'll try to hold off on judging the guys until he actually posts something
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>>2472880
The only thing I think is retarded about it is assigning ranks and scores and shit. The idea of someone going through each entrant one by one and critiquing them is good on its own.
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This guy should just post his work, ffs
People don't want to listen to shit from someone who is worse than them and that's why they're complaining
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>>2472878
But then he would just be selecting randomly. I think it makes sense to go from oldest to newest participant. I do agree with not making day one any more special than we already are, but he needs to have some sort of order to go in, or else it'll be harder to keep track of. And this way he can judge by a more even amount of submissions, since the people who have been here longest will have the most material to judge, and the others will catch up in the meantime.
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>>2472893
Good point
>>
hey ladies what do i draw for space?
>>
Me personally I think that someone going through your work in depth and commenting on it is good regardless of their skill level, you want to make everyone think your drawings are good, not only other artists. If you show your stuff to your relatives, they may point out something that you didn't notice before. You will likely not get any professional level critique here, but would you rather have none at all? I would rather get some insight from another person, even if it's not a very skilled artist.
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Welcome back Nile you fucking fag
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>>2472919
he's a revolving door
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>>2472897
Yeah, I also disagree with those saying the advice is worthless if he isn't good. Sure he might not be able to tell you specifically what you're doing wrong, but another pair of eyes is always useful.

It would be nice to know who he is, but I get that he'd be opening himself up for attack. I wonder if he'll analyze himself.
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>>2472919
It'll keep happening. He gets more publicity by coming and going than by staying in.
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It's my first day is this challenge, it will help me to git gud if i draw everyday?
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>>2472943
Nope

Not that single fact alone
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Blog guy, don't even care about those shitposters that say you shouldn't do that just because you may not be a great artist, do what you want, your idea is good and it can help a lot.
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>>2472943

>making drawing a habit
its an aspect of trying to git gud yes
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>>2472943
It will if you use that time wisely. But drawing every day is generally better than only drawing every once in a while or whatever you were doing.
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>>2472944
fuck it.
i tried copying this but it looks
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>>2472949
get the proportions right before you add details faem
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>>2472953
i tried doing that thing where you use your finger and your pencil, but i can't do it properly
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>>2472949
Focus on main shapes' proportions and how they're rotated in space. Try drawing straight lines between points (either with your eyes or with actual lines) and see if the angles match and if things are properly positioned relative to each other
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>>2472957
use plumb lines
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>>2472949
can you post the original, f4m?
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>>2472963
>>2472959
Thank you so much! holy shit anons i was lost but now i have something to practice with.

>>2472964
There is it anon.
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>>2472968
thanks, nigguh
good luck with your gains
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>>2472974
Anon-Kun You're Such a Fucking Faggot Holy Shit
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>>2472919
Thanks for having me
>>2472921
I suppose
>>2472929
Considering the fact that you guys hate me more and more each time i drop and rejoin, idk if that'd be such a good idea from my side.
I've said this before but i already draw everyday, i only feel like posting on las whenever i feel like im slacking off
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>>2472959
>>2472963
Wouldn't using measurements just encourage photocopying, unless it was something like an anatomical diagram where perspective and complex poses aren't involved?
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>>2472983
say that to my face not online
see what happens
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i quit
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>>2472989
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>>2472995
No you didn't
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i dont have many submissions but i'm pasta, any crits?
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>>2472999
fuck you and your trips, ill try again in the next thread.
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>>2472897

This.
It doesn't take a master chef to point out food that is shitty and why it's shitty.
It just takes someone who has tasted a lot of food competently.
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>>2472672
Is "Tomorrow I swear!" the opposite of "today, I will remind them?".
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I wasn't able to finish my study today. May include the finished version somewhere in tomorrow's file. I'm going to bed. Good luck anons. Draw a lot.
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>>2473011
I think the different is that you get more specific criticism. For instance, telling you exactly where you screwed up the perspective or that it tastes bad because there's too much of a certain ingredient. Anyone could give you general advice like "it looks off here" or "it tastes bad," and it's still usually useful, but someone who knows what they're talking about will be able to give more useful advice.
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>>2473011
>It doesn't take a master chef to point out food that is shitty and why it's shitty.
>art
>food
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste
Autist pls. This is nothing to do with art.
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>>2471697
>tfw such a horrible artist people think you didn't put 30 minutes into your work.
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Today I learned being a normie with school and a career don't mix well with being an artist. Should've just disappointed my family and became a neet.
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>>2473019
Who are you? Personally I'm only punishing the really effortless-looking ones (like Dataizm's tribunal submission today). If it's ambiguous at all I pardon it.
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Critique pls
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can anyone give some good nose tutorials!?
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>>2473024
The girl's pose looks broken and uncomfortable
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>>2473025
Check out the az anatomy channel in youtube, thank me later pham
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>>2473032
yep I should fix that asap; any remarks about the general value areas? I fucked up badly at the start and I want to make sure they're okay
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>>2473033
fuck off pleb
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>>2473024
My humble 2 cents, The scene looks too dark for those huge windows and the cape should have turned with the guys head.
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>>2473037
>I fucked up badly at the start
Are you talking about the background layer thing? And I'd put more contrast on that stuff in the foreground, to add depth and because the light from the windows would be hitting it directly.
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Santichasca, your figure (the chick) is completely fucked. Her proportions are really off, the pose is too stiff and it doesn't look like she's placed in 3D space properly. (look at the legs)

Disgustedtroll, I'd recommend focusing primarily on learning freehand perspective before you move onto construction. It'll be much easier to break forms apart and rearrange them once you get a handle on perspective.

Loomis, do some more perspective and I recommend reevaluating what you're trying to learn. Your last couple of submissions seemed like doodles. Also take better pictures senpai.

Alekiel, keep working on head construction. It doesn't look like you're using your guidelines properly. For example the nose is too far to the left on the bottom head.

Hollow, proportions senpai.

Whizzard keep grinding perspective. Boxes lookin good but the ellipses are a bit off.

Waterball, try not to draw individual eyelashes. Think of them as one large mass.
Frog, it doesn't look like you're properly constructing your hands. As of now they have no mass or form. If you've already learned perspective then start learning how to construct things.

iinaa, I literally can not see shit. Take better pics pls.

Jeremias, try to make the hatching follow the form of the object. The way you did it flattens the dude's head.

Bondagefairy, your heads looks really flat. Make sure you construct the features instead of placing them on there. (Do what Mikerotch is doing)

Craniumoverlord, I think you fucked up the eyes. They don't line up properly.

Webbeva, it looks like you haven't learned how to paint properly yet. Hit up ctrl paint and learn about brush settings/blending/etc. Also, I think your primary focus should currently be fundamentals with painting on the side.

SquiddyWiggy, when you're doing gesture try to ignore the contours. You want to capture the movement or flow of the form so just try to think about stuff like the orientation of the spine or how the weight is being distributed.
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>>2473063
post your name faggot.
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>>2473063
You're a good man.
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>>2473065
>>2473066
classic 4chan
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>>2473063
im being crunched for time, but my next submission is more like my sketchbook figures.
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>>2473063

Thanks m8
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>>2473065
I'm not the guy whose doing the site if that's what you meant, just trying to help out. If a crit seems wrong or off then feel free to let me know, it would only help both parties.

(continued)

Ryderjax, keep doing perspective before you move on to construction. Try working through Norlings book.

Larrex, it looks like your focusing too much on contour. Start with a gesture and then try to build the figure up from that.

CRT, your drawing looks off, esp. the eye. Compare it with your ref.
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>>2472608
What order are you going to rank people?Best to worst, Alphabetic or random
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Ive reached the point where i punish fibonichi and forgive susuka without even looking at their work. Tragic, fibonichi seems to enjoy the attention also shoitout to iina " i swear" burn sucka.
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>>2473065
>>2473066
2 kind of people
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>>2473044
The windows are covered in paper like an asian house and the dude has no cape. I might need to detail more
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>>2473063
>Santichasca, your figure (the chick) is completely fucked

Yeah that's the objective she's a slave whore
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>>2473084
I can tell that it's the chair and not a cape. But if the windows are covered, wouldn't the light be more diffuse? Also they probably shouldn't be so bright, more like the darker color at the edge. Unless it's a very thin paper and the light outside is very bright.
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tfw never mentioned or helped
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>>2473092
i'll help you anon,
come on, tell me your name :^)
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>>2473097

JerryBreem
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>>2473097
BerryJreem
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>>2473098
this nigger
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>>2472683
Fuck, this motivates me. I need to be less lazy so I don't become a laughing stock when it's my turn.
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>>2473024
Girl is all wrong, needs complete redraw.
Scene too dark- if they're papered windows, why does nothing in the scene suggest it? (ie the cultural reference to that style of design, just mixing influences from different cultures has not worked here)
chair is way too wide, more like a sofa except with only one back cushion.
General troubles with perspective.
What is the man doing? Is he holding something, gesturing towards something? How does the face communicate what his hand is doing, what's the story here?
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>>2473087
lel
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>>2473091
I have no idea I'm a beginner ;_; How do I make light diffuse?
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>>2473106
Due to my status I'm probably going to be among the first. I haven't had much time lately so I'm probably going to get points taken off for effort and work ethic and there's nothing I can do about it. Help.
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>>2473116
drop out, it's the only way ;^)
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>>2473092
i know that feel anon
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>>2473063
Hi Jmgn.
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>>2472683
>Technical Skill - These things only come with practice. I will be judging based on things such as confidence of line/ strokes. When it comes to studies how close is the construction to the model? in other words a trained eye.
It could just be because this was typed up quickly, but this sounds pretty vague. For technical skill, make sure to really look at how well an artist understands things like anatomy, value, perspective, color, etc.
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you forgot the most important thing
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>>2473075

>your drawing looks off, esp. the eye. Compare it with your ref.

I know. I was so disappointed in myself after finishing it that I'm going to redo this whole portraits section of the book.
I appreciate the critique, though. I really need it and I'm always glad to get the feedback.
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>4 across the board

Gotta step it up sempai
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CLEANSE LAS OF THE FURRIES
It's outlawed on /ic/ it should be outlawed here
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>>2473129
like im gonna have the audacity to critique other people when everything I draw looks like tumorous balloon people
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>>2472683
so how do I opt out without drawing any attention to my username
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>>2473161
at least you're honest
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>>2473160
Concerned parent?
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>>2473162
probably send message to him on tumblr. Though you'll be found out when he skips your shit
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>>2473161
I remember you saying the exact same thing about gesture drawing, word for word in an early LAS thread. You've been exposed.
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>need to pee
>have to upload first
OOOOOO
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>>2473162
My email is in the blog, also I just realized lava will be first and I'm wringing my hands, at least I'm anonymous. I will add that the point of the evaluation is to point you in the direction you need to be going rather than grilling beginners, I'm honestly more looking forward to the mid range folks trying to strike out but needing that extra push.
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STELLA HASN'T POSTED YET

WORRIED.JPG
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>>2473185
diediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediedie
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>>2473185
who the fuck is this meem
notice me champai.
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>>2473185
It's over, stella is finished.
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>>2473187
>>2473190
Never. :^)
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>floral
>twice

repeating topics is bad, but double of a repeated topic, what the fug man
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kussimura i miss you
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goddamit poon, not again
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WEEKWUNNERS DOWN
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>Topic Challenge #1, 18 remain.
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FLORAL TWICE
LAVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Everyone vote Floral
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Which floral do I choose?!
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>>2473198
WHICH ONE
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double floral

shits rigged
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pls don't die again poon
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FLORAL VOTE PLS
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>>2473196
Seems topic hell is too much for some artists to handle.
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>>2473200
the right one
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we already had all of these topics

>floral
>subterranean
>fucking RHYTHM

god i hate drawing flowers

laaaaaaaaavvvvvvvvvvvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>2473192
>>2473197
Oh I figured out what's wrong. It generates the 3 then removes them from the pool instead of generating then removing. It used do to that but I forgot to when I added the challenge cooldown. Fixed for today and I'll permanently fix it tomorrow
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it's my first day on this shit then i'm going to enjoy doing something floral.
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>>2473024
I can't tell if that smoke is coming from the black stick in the background or the guy's hand. If it's intentionally overlapped or just bad placement.

>>2473005
Hard to say with just those submissions, your stuff is all over the place, some of them make it seem like you're a complete beginner but others suggest otherwise. Maybe try to be more deliberate with your lines.
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[spoiler]how do i select the challenges?[/spoiler]
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>coomi stayed up all night watching anime and didn't wake up on time so they have been eliminated from
>Topic Challenge #1-7

>iinaa stayed up all night watching anime and didn't wake up on time so they have been eliminated from
>Topic Challenge #1-7

coomi and iinaa were never in topic challenge #1, were they? I can't find them on the group photo, and I'm pretty sure we were already at 18 left in #1 before today's eliminations
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anyone streaming?
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>>2473214
Nanomachines son
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>all 3 topics have already won in the past
cmon I don't want to draw them again, that's not fun
can you replace them
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>>2473221
this please
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>loli offends me
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>>2473208
it better be permanently fixed tomorrow or i'll permanently fix you
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>>2473225
:O
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>>2473224
who what where
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GET SOME BLANK PAPER IINAA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>2473224
eh? nani? dare?
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http://lavaflake.com/draw/tribunal/?id=153
cute drawing
punished ;^)
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>>2473224
>being offended on 4chan
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I hate measuring things out so much. With enough practice will I ever have a good eye for converting shapes/proportions onto paper just by sight?
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>>2473237
yea
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>>2473214

They probably weren't in the topic challenge from the first day, if i am correct?
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https://strawpoll.me/7283078

vote vote vote
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>loli offends me
PARDONED
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>>2473241
They should've been up there, Yossy, sasori, Lokki, mintkat, leo516, Whizzard and Kirikae didn't start the topic challenge from the first day either but they're in the group photo ( http://lavaflake.com/draw/challenge/?id=8 )
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Wow, a day passed away?
in my land we call this hour 06:35 pm
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>>2473224
I don't know how to judge that one. I would prefer not seeing that stuff while I'm browsing too but technically it's not explicitly nsfw.
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>>2473244
>one 5+
FIBINOCHI???
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>>2473244
Did Strawpoll change their font?
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Jmgn is the greatest artist that i've ever seen.
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>>2473256
It's supposed to be Gloria Hallelujah from inspect element, but it doesn't look like http://www.dafont.com/gloria-hallelujah.font for me, maybe something's screwed up
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>>2473257
you gotta browse other sites than dA, bruh
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>>2473253
So it was you!
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jerrybreem your pics look a bit distorted some how
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>>2473257
At this point I'm assuming you're inciting people to talk shit about Jmgn
fuck your reverse psychology bullshit
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>>2473253
>I would prefer not seeing that stuff while I'm browsing too
I'm honestly curious about why it bothers you. Have I just spent too much time here? How is a drawing of a fictional child upsetting?
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>>2473244
4 times only because some autist reported me for the content I drew
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>>2473263
It wasn't. I didn't report that submission and I haven't voted on it either. I probably won't put in a vote on it since I can't decide but I have a feeling it's going to be pardoned. I think Lava should have a look at it though in the interest of the site's safety and all that.
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>>2473269
>Have I just spent too much time here?
i have no problems with loli but yeah, this man.
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>>2473270
an example?
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Jp, your dromaeosaur's anatomy is a bit fucked up, reference some actual paleoart/reconstructions and not Jurassic Park.
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>>2473274
Probably one of the people who was targeted by the anime fag.
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RIP streamers ;_;
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>>2473249

Huh, what was the topic of the first topic challenge?
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>>2472683
I'm fucked
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>floral again
>it's winning
Nice, flowers are so fun to draw.
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>>2473274
I'd rather not say, but pretty much everyone hates it, and I swore off drawing or talking about it here.

>>2473281
It's not anime.
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>>2473281
i was referring to your draw, anyway, if it says low effort it's debatible.
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>>2473214
>>2473241
>>2473249
Had a look, coomi had a non-topic submission the first week, after he already joined the challenge, I think that should have kicked him out on the very first week, right?
As for iinna I don't know, he has 39 submissions and the topics started counting 44 days ago with only 5 in the first week. He either missed by one day or joined at the last second.

>>2473285
mysterious was the first one after the tick box got added so I guess that's the official start
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>>2473270
i was referring to your drawings because if it's for anime isn't a valid reason for going to the judge, and if it's for low effort it's debatible, just post a example of your reported works.
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>>2473295
>>2473291
fuck this shit, i thought my first post got deleted
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>>2473253
>>2473272
>I can't decide what to vote
ban this guy from ever using the tribunal
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>>2473272
>wanting to punish someone's work because you don't like it
This is not what the tribunal is for

>in the interest of the site's safety
There was an incident a while back and Lava put up a notice to not draw loli porn.
This one is fine.
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>>2473294

Huh, pretty sure i drew that topic? And now when i try to look back there's something fucky going on with the past topics.
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>>2473303
It was reported for having an inappropriate thumbnail, the punishment is nothing more than having a nsfw one slapped on it. Stop being so melodramatic.
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>>2473315
>girl in a one piece swimsuit
>nsfw
Laughing to be honest
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>>2473321
don't you understand? she's UNDERAGE
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>>2473321
I said in my first post it's technically not nsfw and that's why I'm not voting on it but we all know what it is as much as you'll pretend it isn't and I would like if that stuff had a thumbnail covering it at least if you're not going to abide by Lava's request that it not be submitted to LAS.
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>>2473286
JerryBreem?
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I guess the vulva is questionable, but otherwise I see no problem with a kid in a swimsuit. I'd probably have erased that part before submitting it.
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>>2473324
Don't you understand? She's not REAL
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>>2473338
This was funnier than it needed to be.
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>>2473324
But why does that bother you? It's not like she's your daughter, or your friend's daughter, or a real girl you have any connection to, or a real girl.
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>>2473328
>'Lava's rules'
If they didn't abide by them then they wouldn't be on the site period. When Lava asked people not to post loli for a while he meant little cartoon girls fucking, not a synonym for all little girls. Even nudity is fine, just not sexual situations.

You sound like you believe a cartoon girl in a swimsuit should genuinely be censored. That's pathetic. There is nothing nsfw about that thumbnail, we're not all secretly grinning and winking at each other, get your mind out the gutter.
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>Cath
muh nigga
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>>2473359
>not knowing how cucked canada is
I for one don't want lava to end up in jail over poorly drawn chinese cartoon children
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>>2473366
Who else would have a vested interest in Lava's freedom besides Lava himself. I knew it was you all along.
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>>2473380
JerryChasca?
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>>2473373
fugg, wrong one
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How will the girls swim if they can't wear swimsuits? Do you really want them to swim in the nude?
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>>2473380
>>2473386
>dark theme
oh now you fucked up, kid
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>>2473359
Fuck off this is what I hate about you people. You know full well it's not just a drawing of a girl in a swimsuit or else we wouldn't be talking about it just as we haven't talked about any of the other drawings of young looking anime girls that have been submitted. I've never reported any of those nor did I report this one so fuck you calling me pathetic like I'm on a witch hunt when I've drawn and submitted young anime girls myself. You always have to try to make it out like everyone's out to get you for asking even the smallest courtesy in handling your stupid fetish. Even the furry artists were willing to use the nsfw thumbnail without an issue. You fucks and your persecution complex are the pathetic ones. Thanks for helping me decide my vote. I'm done with this conversation.
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>>2473395

>bitter loomis appears
>>
Can we all be honest for a second? Does Lavas submission really look like 30 minutes? I'm sure he does more besides that but that submission does not look like 30 minutes of work. If you think it does then pardon him, all I'm saying is seriously consider it before you pardon him and don't pardon him just because he's Lava. Everyone should be held accountable.
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>>2473395
>I've drawn and submitted young anime girls myself
What a fucking lie, jesus christ
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>>2473404
If you read the descriptions a lot of the time he'll say how he spent 9 hours or something drawing but has erased or deleted or just won't post 90% of the work. I agree though that he should posts more work at least so it's undeniably over 30 minutes work. I keep a ton of my work to myself but always post something that took at least an hour and looks like it did.
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>>2473404
I try to be objective but it does come to mind that he not only works on the site every now and then, but he's also physically limited
so unless he submits a canvas with two lines on it, I'd wager he does put in at least 30 minutes a day into his work
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>>2473395
>You know full well it's not just a drawing of a girl in a swimsuit
You are seriously deluded. I was expecting you to turn around and pretend you were just acting retarded after the first post.
>persecution complex
>you people
Who are you even talking to? Anyone that's drawn a kid? I don't remember anyone seriously complaining and not just joking about loli getting removed except for Loomis.
>Thanks for helping me decide my vote.
Pretty much sums you up entirely then, at least you'll get to punish yourself when you come up on tribunal for drawing that young anime girl.

How the fuck did you even find 4chan? Followed the warning signs from tumblr?

>>2473404
Hard to say, if I base it on his description then sure, but if we report based on exactly what he submit then it's probably punish.
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>>2473409
I think he should post it all too, but he seems like a very honest person, so unless it happens again soon I trust him.

>>2473410
>he's also physically limited
Also this.
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>>2473404
Dude i'm really bad i drew the lion knight and you can say that isn't 30 minutes of work, but when you're not a fucking master of the painting you can't draw things in record time (and i'm not talking about good draws).
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>>2473412
>I can turn stuff like that out in literally two minutes.
Have you been drawing for less than a year and have fucked motor control? You're supposed to judge by how much time you think it took them, not how much time it would take you.
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>>2473410
>>2473413
He's not as handicapped as you make him out to be.
IIRC, he lost a bit of control in his hands? Naught but a minor hindrance from what I've seen
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>>2473395
lol
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>>2473423
I'm not trying to say that
for all I know there might be people in LAS that have no arms and still draw
he could take plenty of breaks too, if he needed
what I was getting at is that I do believe he puts the effort into it, hence I'd vote for a pardon, unless it were blatantly obvious he just shit out something to not get eliminated
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>>2473423
Next time on Last Artist Standing: Just how crippled is TOO crippled? Anon Anonson asks the important questions.
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I smear paint over my stump arm and still shit out top tier work. No excuses senpai
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>>2473433
>Just how crippled is TOO crippled? Anon Anonson asks the important questions.
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>>2473434
Honestly, if the canvas was big enough to make up for the lost detail, and you had an intact arm or dextrous enough feet to mix paint, you have no excuse.
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>>2473429
What if fibinochi was disabled all along?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwcldMKlzjg

This looks familiar
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>>2473439
>>2473441
speak of the devil, kek
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>>2471718
>>2471722
>>2473063
I took your advice and looked into Proko's videos. I think I'm starting to see some improvement, so thanks for the help!
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>>2473439
>>2473441
wew
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>mfw I only come to this thread to check out the latest shitposts
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>>2473452
feels good man
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>create account
>fuck up password (only asked once on creation)
>account recovery not working, just a button
>can't create another account in an hour
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>>2473461
Email lava
>>2473441
No need to bully the poor lad, he's just trying to learn
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strem
https://piczel.tv/watch/EldritchSinner
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http://lasevaluations.tumblr.com/post/142276020431/critique-1-lavaflake

I CAN'T WAIT FOR MINE
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>>2473480
>no anon chat
dropped
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>>2473484
IT BEGINS
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sorry not sorry
http://lasevaluations.tumblr.com/post/142276020431/critique-1-lavaflake
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Laseval guy can you tell us your process? Are you looking at every single submission from the start? How long do you spend looking?
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>all these tier lists and evaluations
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>>2473484
>>2473484
So Lava critiqued himself first, too obvious.
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>>2473494
Lava has too much to do to waste time pulling something like that off.
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>>2473484
>>2473490
inb4 Lava goes on another long rant about fundamentals
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>>2473485
ive fixed it
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>>2473498
he has the threat of >>2473225 looming over him so that won't be possible for a bit
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>Work Ethic - (2)
>Improvement - (2)
Huh?
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>>2473490
>..."looks like it at least took 45 minutes, maybe more for a beginner but not by much"

Gah. If this is how you feel when looking at his work I'm afraid of what you'll think of mine. I spend an avg of 3 hours a day, sometimes as little as 2 and sometimes as much as 6. Only a couple times did I do the bare minimum because of sickness. And I know what I do in several hours could be done by others in minutes and I'm not even a complete beginner. Being unbearably slow is the worst feeling.
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Eval guy I'd suggest being less personal with the critique style. Maybe even using "the artist" or just they instead of he, she, or telling us their backstory. I mean this in the nicest of ways, but if you pull punches then the value of critiques drops, and being personal will only make you instinctively try lesson bad feedback. And I say this as a flawless who knows I'm just setting myself up for a harsher crit but I don't care, the point of these is to be useful somehow, not for measuring our e-peens.
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>>2473498
explain
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god this is going to be horrible
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>>2473505
It'll be useful for measuring our e-peens
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>>2473490
Might be good to use the list of names on the challenge > active page as the order you do these in, it has everyone listed by week in order of when they made their first submission. It's a perfect order of most to least submissions to make a judgement on.
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>>2473506
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>>2473491
with each person it will be unique, Lava was good to start with to get him out of the way but mainly because all his uploads are directly on his tumblr, so I basically went into the archives, looked through each one and looked at the months as a whole in the archive to get a better picture of the progress.
>>2473504
I don't like making guesses about effort but if there is times where you just did 30 minutes as opposed to your normal 3 hours then the difference will be apparent.
>>2473505
I struggled with how I would approach referring to the artist, with Lava I felt like I needed to put the disclaimer though and no one else will have it. As far as my opinion I tried to be less personal at first but found that was hard while also trying to give advice/ critique. Maybe I will get better in the next 100
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>>2473515
lel, he's a 2 now though ;^)
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Naf, please stream again if you have the time.
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>>2473516
what the fuck did i just witnessed
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>>2473522
Those dubs
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>>2473515
>I've got one more month of dedicated study left then I'm hoping I'll surprise people with what I can do once I start learning to make things look good instead of learning to make them right

Him calling people out on their comfort zones and things they can't do is arrogant, but it doesn't sound like he's boasting about his current level, more like hoping he'll be good when he gets past these early foundation grinding exercises.
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>>2473536
>more like hoping he'll be good when he gets past these early foundation grinding exercises.
That's what I thought too.
>I'll surprise people with what I can do
>I WILL surprise people
>Future tense
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>been doing mostly fun doodles rather than studies lately
Shit, I'm scared for my evaluation.
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>>2473544
why? are you parents going to take away your videogames if you get a 2 or something?
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>>2473545
More like scared to find out he doesn't have the spark.
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>tfw Loomis is behind these "evaluations"
>tfw the first couple will be legit to make us lower our guard
>tfw he will start pinpointing our most vulnerable areas and destroy our morale one by one
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>>2473549
Isn't a critique supposed to pinpoint your vulnerable areas anyways?
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>>2473541
>conveniently cut off -I'm hoping- I'll surprise
I feel like a few people are trying really hard to make lava look like he was being a dick. When I read that post it sounded to me like he said people in streams have talked about having comfort zones themselves and he didn't want to betray their confidence. The other parts sounded like him being hopeful about his progress and thinking his critical eye has gotten better from his studies. He ended with "I've only been doing this 7 months so who knows". None of it sounded like he was overly confident in anything he was saying he was sharing his opinion of the rankings like everyone else was. I think people are putting too much emphasis on his words because they think people treat him with elevated status and they're insecure.
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>>2473549
Only weaklings would let this destroy their morale
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>>2473551
>I feel like a few people are trying really hard to make lava look like he was being a dick.
It's just banter senpai. No one hates Lava, if they did they prob. wouldn't be doing LAS or they'd be voicing their hate a lot more. View it as a joke and nothing more.
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>>2473553
I didn't say I thought anyone hates him but I do feel like a few people have been trying really really hard to make more out of those posts than they really were. They made macro images for godssake.
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I hate lava so much

So fucking much
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DAE Lava hate?
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>>2473264
It's the meme artifacts
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>>2473561

shutup lava
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Lets be honest boys, lava won't make it :/
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>>2473484
>>2473490
I'll comment on it and I hope everyone does cause I'm more interested in one people think about themselves than what others think of them

>Work Ethic - (2)
I think is really low but I don't blame the if they're basing it on what they see on my Tumblr. I'd put myself at around a 6/10 (2 points deducted for the LAS site, 2 for general laziness that I need to work on.)

The stuff you don't see: sketchbook work (2-4 pages/day), reading books and blogs+tutorial videos, doodling and now I've started studying graphic novels and manga. I count that last one considering next month I'm making a 10 page comic and I've never read comics before.

>Technical Skill - (2)
He's not wrong. I find it a waste of time to make things look good if they don't need to and since I don't make things look good I can't without investing serious time. I start making things next month so I'm hoping that'll change.

He's right about gestures. It's not just a lack of technical skill it's having the wrong mindset. I'm not working on it as hard as I should.

And I'm not worried about the painting part. Everything you see on the blog is 15-30 min timed paintings. Nothing's finished because I painted what I could for 25mins then spent the last 5 on detailing the focal point. I've spent probably < 80h painting since I started so I'm not worried. When I get a little more comfortable drawing I'll start seriously painting

>Creativity/ Vision - (1)
TBD in my opinion. All I've done is study

>Improvement - (2)
I don't know what to say about this one. If there was a bar graph with 10 different bars and each of them represented a skill that artists have then all of my bar would be at 1.5-3. I created a plan to do exactly that so I guess I agree with this number.

>>2473585
I'll race you :^)
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>Wake up
>Open thread
>Autistic shitposting and more lists
https://youtu.be/kmqOV4JkRcs
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>>2473595
If there is one thing autists all love, it's making a list.
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>>2473597
>Somebody is actually going through all thousands of submissions and rating them
This is another level. It's terminal autism
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babbys first ink (and maybe tone)
https://picarto.tv/aimai
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>>2470153
SANTICHASCA IS NOSE BRO
>SANTICHASCA IS NOSE BRO
SANTICHASCA IS NOSE BRO
>SANTICHASCA IS NOSE BRO
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>>2473484
>2/10
Dang, this is a pretty harsh grader. Actually makes me look forward to my review even more.
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>>2473620
Lava was a 1 in the other list, if anything this guy isn't as harsh.
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>>2473613
the fuck?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6eFl7hCiA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5F6tMmC4hA
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>>2473622
>isnt as harsh
or he's not terrible at evaluating people. or he's telling lava what he wants to hear
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>>2473659

> he's telling lava what he wants to hear

What if LAS Evaluations anon was actually just typing perfectly, custom reviews designed to psychologically affect each non-hopeless LAS-er to make it based on each participant's mindset?
Or what if the exact opposite of it?
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>>2473063
I knew i fucked up something, so the eyes this time.
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>>2473665
>each non-hopeless LAS-er
S-so if he skips me I'm CONFIRMED NOT GONNA MAKE IT?
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>>2473665
>implying its a human
its just a markov chain made by lava on his spare time
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>>2473670

Yeah, pretty much.
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>>2473676
>implying that's true
Since that guy is gonna go through all of week one, are you saying all of week one will make it?
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>>2471679
they are stealing his biz, yo
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/LAS/es who are not asleep, report in. We are the dedicated ones and we are CONFIRMED GONNA MAKE IT.
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>>2473694
I'm pretty sure I'm not. I don't know what drives me to keep trying.
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>>2473694
hi
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>>2473694
im not asleep but its not because I have been working hard
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>>2473694
Yeah, it's just normal daytime for some people at this time.
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>>2473694
Not asleep! I swear!
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>>2473694
LASers (lol, lasers) who are sleeping don't respond to this guy, don't worry, you can make
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>>2471729

>looking for myself
>mfw these names
>8

kek
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>>2473739
No you can't. It's scientifically impossible to make it if you don't give him a tribute (you). He's Loomis, and he will kill anyone who doesn't pay the (you) tax necessary to augment his (you) to post ratio (Y/P). He will find you through your strawpoll responses, drive to your house in a white armored van, and burn it down. He will slit your throat neck as you exit the door, and then beat the shit out of you when you're dying on the ground. He has over a hundred confirmed LAS kills and he will not be stopped. He cannot be stopped. You're nothing but prey, submitting in fear every day, afraid of the horrible consequences that getting elliminated implies.

Now show me your tokens, lasers.
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>>2473759
>tfw I gave him a you
>tfw I stopped others from giving him you's

just killing the competition bro
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>>2471729
>didn't even change my name
why do you do this to me?
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>>2473768
jmgn?
yotsuyu?
steak?
ryderjax?
cathode?
sadgondola?
jellybeans?
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did they ever find FmMood's body?
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>>2473597

Someone make a list on who is the most autistic
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>>2473800
and put himself on the top if it
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>>2473803
>finally a list that I can be a 10 on
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>>2473807
i'd be 10 in you're moms list ;^)
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>>2473789
He was cremated
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>>2473789
Loomis kills by disintegration
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Getting out of my comfort zone makes me want to kill myself
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>>2473872
Ah, the old cliff phenomenon. You'll get used to it. The more you stray far out of your comfort zone, the more you'll suffer and the better you'll become. Suffering equals gains.
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I just draw this figure without any reference, just by imagination, could you guys give me some advice?

>>2473361
Haha, I didn't know what to draw so I went to the reaction images folder to see what I could found.
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>>2473880
Check your perspective and the proportion of the right arm
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>JasonWaterFalls is still cheating
wtf is wrong with this guy
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>>2473909
I almost sperg out, then I saw it's waterfalls and not waterball
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>>2473880
>snowboardingshogun.jpg
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lads why i can't vote on the tribunal?
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>>2473934
you have to press alt+f4 to enable voting
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>>2473929
Relax, doubleball. Btw, you should try constructing some anatomy or perspective, it helps thinking in 3D and improves one's accuracy.

>>2473934
Because you haven't clicked on the submission to see it in full size.
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>>2473935
Fuck you, I tried it
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>>2473936
Now I remembered you were looking for eye refs, so here's an assortment of eye refs for you. Tip for studying: if different sources seem to be in conflict, remember it's all about a particular artist's interpretation. There really isn't a one foolproof way to draw or construct anything. Nevertheless, I hope the diagrams attached will help you expand your understaning.
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https://picarto.tv/UltraBondageFairy

strem
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Ok I need help. I can't texture the clothing of this guy the way I did with the mask for some reason. On the upper arm you can see what I was trying to do but it looks shit. Anyone know how I can do the coats texture. Also general feedback is welcome
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>>2473955
Any particular reason for turning off the brush dynamics?
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>>2473957
Is that what causes all the separate balls when I use a large brush? I don't know when I did that and how to fix it...
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>>2473963
that's the spacing under the brush settings
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>>2473963
I mostly meant transfer.
As your the general critique, you seem to be greatly confused about the light direction. Get a reference.
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>>2473975

> greatly confused about light direction

Not him, but could you point out some specific or overall errors? I'm a beginner and because I don't know shit, as far as I can tell it's fairly consistent (light source is at the top, all exposed surfaces near the top are lighter).
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What's up with all these balls in the thread
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>>2473965
>>2473975
okay, fixed the spacing.
And the colors not blending into eachother was more of a style choice, but i guess I have to come back from that if I fail at making it work with just dithering.
My lighting was just guesswork. Will look at similar stuff then.
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no spark
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Fuck this fuck everything fuck faces fuck drawing and fuck you
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>>2473936
>>2473950
yay, my first ic critique I,

ty for the ref, saved on my desktop (where I almost don't save anything) and I am going to refer to it until I'll internalize those info

and about anatomy and perspective, a little ago I understood perspective, I just got to remember to use it, while for anatomy there is a long way to go and lately I've been trying to loosen it and focus on the flow and shadows, once I get happy with those I'll return to anatomy

these days I'll try to have in mind what you told me while drawing
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>>2474103
having trouble drawing faces are we? :^)
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>>2474103
NO, FUCK YOU!
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>>2474144
not "you're eliminated, kiddo"
come on anon
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>>2474148
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Cal Arts, and I’ve been involved in numerous sekret clubs on LAS, and I have over 300 confirmed submissions. I am trained in gorilla fundamentals and I’m the top weekwunner in the entire LAS. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting Loomis and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking CONFIRMED NOT GONNA MAKE IT, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can report you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my tail. Not only am I extensively trained in fundamentals, but I have access to the entire arsenal of LAS and I will use it to its full extent to punish your miserable ass off the face of the tribunal, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re eliminated ;^), kiddo.
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>>2474153
JerryBreem?
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>>2471520
>>2472428
fug, my ass is getting blasted, that's good

>>2473075
>it looks like your focusing too much on contour. Start with a gesture and then try to build the figure up from that.
Got it, thanks for the critique! Gonna do twice as many gestures tomorrow and try not to focus on the contour.
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hey babes what do i draw for remains? ;))
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>>2474157

you're mom
because she's dead
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>>2474157
A half-decomposed Caylee Anthony.
At least, that's what I'M drawing.
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sasori is like a baby jmgn ;-;

without the weird furry fetish
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>>2474157
your art skill
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>>2474157
stella
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>>2474170
wot
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>noone posted comic progress

you all given up already?
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>>2474172
it'll be a quick win
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>>2474174

more like a direct trip to the tribunal
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>>2474172
I'm a beginner but I'm probably gonna drop it and focus on the fundies. I'm sure more experienced people will finish it though like danM and 7.
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>>2474177
that's the spirit
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>>2474172
i'm on it fug
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This song defines my life right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piFJVwr1YYA
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>>2474177
>fundamentals blablabla

comic isn't just about drawing well, it's also good writing/story and composition so you'll be learning from it either way even if its shit

danielM's comic about the flawless wasn't great in terms of skills but it was funny and well written. and i'm sure he learned something out of it

so tldr get back on it you lazy little shit
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>>2474172
Im waiting for day 10 to start.
I need a little pressure
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>>2474190
This is Last Artist Standing not Last Writer Standing
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>>2474205


This is comic challenge not last artist standing
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>>2474190
>danielm
can you post it? too lazy to look it up
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>>2474208


I'm too busy drawing (with the ocasional shitpost) but i think it is somewhere in his late feb/early march submission
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>>2474190
What I learnt doing it is that just thinking about how to pace and compose the panels is about 60% of the effort put into it, so I would argue that if you want to learn how to do comics you HAVE to do comics, regardless of your skill level, because I don't think grinding fundies is going to particularly help with learning to create comics. It also gives you an excuse to do concepts of characters, environments, practice composition skills, etc.
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>>2474208
http://imgur.com/a/M7YO7

also just noticed the order of the submissions is now reversed, threw me off a bit
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>>2474213

How big should a comic page be? Like, in pixels?
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>>2474220
its digital homie, go nuts
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AS BIG AS YOUR RAM CAN HANDLE
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>submissions order in profiles is now reversed
That's great Lava, would it be possible now to show little thumbnails? something like in the tribunal, going checking link by link is tedious
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>>2474220
>>2474238
FUCK
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>>2474239
seconding this
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>>2474239
It's on the todo list
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>>2474239
TOMORROW
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>>2474220
idk, my canvas is always like 3000x3000 and then I just crop it how I want it, it's messy as fuck but I just can't bother thinking about the proportions of the canvas when I start drawing. I would say as long as you are not seeing the pixels while drawing, it's fine.
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I think I want to stop partaking in the LAS soon.
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>>2474253
w1d1?
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anyone streaming?
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>>2474253
scared of getting evaluated? ;^)
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>>2474256
No, I want to go at my own pace
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>>2474253
>>2474257
bye bye
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>>2474253
>>2474257
no spark confirmed
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>>2474255
https://picarto.tv/susipari
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>>2474261
>>2474262
susiparimind
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>>2474257
>can't draw for 30 minutes everyday

bad news for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwYAKcl0iWw
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>>2473768
Probably because you're name's a joke already family
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>>2474264
>not posting the OG version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5F6tMmC4hA
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what the fuck is going on with all these comic submissions?
when I posted mine I got flamed.
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>>2474376
some fags started a comic challenge
you're a trend setter :^)
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>>2474378
that's dumb, especially when there's an almost general comicbook thread on /ic/.

this challenge is losing focus lava.
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>>2474380
why? you still need to draw for at least 30 minutes a day.
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>>2474380
If you bothered to read anything you'd have seen that the comic thing isn't officially part of las. It's not required and entering or being eliminated from it doesn't affect las statuses.
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>>2474383
yeah, but why have a challenge?
it was simple and elegant when it was just "draw for 30 minutes erryday"
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>>2474388
It's not LAS, it's completely unofficial, as far as LASses are concerned, nothing has changed.
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>>2474392
are you ok m8?
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>>2474392
>big button on the site to join the challenge
>secret club
Lol
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>>2474389
k, have your fun I guess
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>>2474392
lol
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>>2474397
Not even in it, just saying how it is.
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>>2474396
>actual secret club
everyone complains about secret clubs. it should be available to everyone
>make it available to everyone
las is losing focus. it's too complicated keep it simple

never change guys
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>>2474417
it was a stupid idea from the beginning
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>>2474417
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>2474417
This goy.
I joined a monthly drawing group on facebook because I felt like it. Literally nothing changed for anyone here. Some people wanted to do a side thing relating to comics and it's the ruination of las? Just because they let other people know about it, in a situation where everyone joined a group because it helps them stay motivated and members with interest in specific areas would likely enjoy a group that focuses on those areas? If someone in las participates in the tower girls threads or other sketch and animation jam sessions they're taking away focus from las? Is this the all time epitome of stop liking what I don't like??
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>>2474417
las isn't one person
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>>2474437
your just dumb.
they can do their comics elsewhere, simple.
there's no use in arguing with you
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>all these pointless arguments
You guys are big babies.
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>>2474445
lol this guy
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>>2474445
They are doing the comics elsewhere. It's not part of las. But they are in las and they know people in las like working in groups so they told people about another group. You're calling other people dumb but you can't grasp the fact that a separate group containing people from another group doesn't make them all one big group. And they ARE separate, they have no effect on each other.
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>>2474445

why should it matter to you? they are still doing their 30 mins of drawing a day
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>>2474450
>>2474457
>>2474448
you just mark my words, this is the end of LAS
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>>2474448
>>2474450
>>2474457
I think he's just pretending to be retarded now, 2474445 has gotta be bait
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>>2474460
mark my dick in you're mom
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>>2474457
>tfw my comics always get atleast 20 views
>tfw my normal stuff gets like 15 max
A-alright guys, I guess I'll screw the fundamentals and only make comics from now on.
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>>2474461
He has to be. I know there are some dense motherfuckers in the world but nobody could be that dumb.
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>>2474464

if you suck ass, more views is worse, not better
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anyone streaming ?
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>>2474469
fuck
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>>2474464
>>2474473
fuck views what the fuck are you doing focusing on ephemeral shit like that man when you should be focusing gitting gud
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>>2474473

Trust me when I say I know this first hand.
Every time that counter goes up it's like stabbing me in the fucking ego. I'm practically screaming "don't look at me. DON'T LOOK AT MEEEEE".
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-Power levels.
-LAS evaluations.
-Comic challenge.

what a time to be a laser
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>>2474466
You would be surprised, anon.
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>>2474481

I WANT TO LICK THAT SNAIL'S ASSHOLE
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>>2474457
>>2474461
>>2474463
>>2474466
I had my say, and as I said, you guys are dumb and have no idea how shit goes down.

>>2474469
>>2474476
stop lying, we all know views is what is all about.
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>>2474471
Fuck today LAS. I play games :^
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How do I convince parents to let me take a year off college and go NEET so I can git gud and work as a comic book artist?
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>>2474486
here's your fix bud
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>>2474490
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18
Dude
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>>2474479

can't wait for the updated femanon list
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>>2474493
hahaha I welcome hell
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>>2474479
>LAS evaluations.
>going in user id order
>tfw day one but more than 50 people made accounts before me
It'll be long dead before it gets to me.
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>Queezy when some random person on tumblr likes shit from months ago, meaning he's going through my shit

las review gonna be fun, just fuck my shit up fampai
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>>2474492
>take a year off college
I'm not underage tho senpai
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>>2474490
>actually dropped out of high school because of reasons unrelated to art
>been NEET since then, getting gud
>tfw minimal progress
>tfw can feel parents getting tired of my shit
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>>2474516
Same, except I finished HS. NEETing for two years almost, now.
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http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1459899880266.webm
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>>2474516
>>2474525
I initially dropped out of college in junior year, NEETed for 2 years with little progress, but then I started going to a city school since past fall for graphic design, which I've been using as a buffer period for getting good, which is finally turning in my favor
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>>2474531
>show me your togens
Is this bitch some kind of alien? wtf is she saying? Also fuck you for posting that shiet.
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>>2474531
sauce
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>>2474516
>>2474525
>>2474532
Why did none of you guys git gud? Esp. you two who had 2 years. Share your shortcomings so the same shit doesn't happen to me pls
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>>2474536
depression, self-hatred
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>>2474469
pls tell me this isn't true. What are optimal views if your average/good/bad?
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>>2474546

> average/bad: 0 + # of people who views it and subsequently critiques it
> good: everybody
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>5 minutes to elimination and /las/es are barely posting.
Yall niggas weak
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>>2474531
Why must the human body be so unappealing to look at
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>tfw drew more than half an hour, but i can't get it to look good enough to post
M-muh first token
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>>2474536
when you are NEET your motivation and will to live fades away, it's not a good environment for getting gud, trust me.
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i didn't draw anything today, and there are only 3 minutes left
SOMEBODY SAVEEEEEEEEE MEEEEE!!!!
I DON'T CARE HOW YOU DO IT JUST SAVE!!!!! ME!!!
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU!!!!
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what are some essentials that beginners seem to miss/do wrong?
but please, no: "perspective, tones, gesture" and that shit
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>>2474553
True that.
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>>2474550
>tfw 14 views 0 crits or mentions
W-what does it mean?
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>>2474536
Pretty much this >>2474540, plus a shitty living and cultural environment. Doing a lot better this year though since moving and the start of LAS.
I mean, I've improvet, but I've been intermediate for a while so it's difficult to get motivated if I don't even see the gains.
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>>2474559

Means somebody dropped by, had some thought about your submission and left.
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>>2474557
gesture, form
you goddamn faggit
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>>2474557
Doing color too early, using tiny brushes to start a drawing and zooming in too much.
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>>2474563
beginner pleb spotter.
I specifically told you not to name these thing that everybody knows.
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lava, confrontation already appeared a few days ago, shouldn't it be waiting for another 30 days? (even if it didn't win)
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>get inspiration for next drawing
>set everything up
>plan ahead
>submit my shit (unrelated to said next drawing)
hypehypehype.jpg
>check submissions
>see one guy's and how amazing it is
>what's the point I can't match this guy
>all those positive emotions gone
LAS was a mistake
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>>2474571
you work hard and eventually you will match it
simple as
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>forced relog
Lava ruined everything :^
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>datizm is back on tribunal
>jasonwaterfalls is back on tribunal
>both on there twice
In a couple weeks these 2 will be the only people on tribunal. Also Jason why do you even keep submitting old shit? It's not like you get anything out of it. Atleast Datizm makes new shit
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>>2474536
I'm >>2474532, and I had a fuckton of bad habits at the time which overrode my work ethic anytime I tried to make positive changes

Fapping & porn addiction, excessive vidya (LoL / Guild Wars 2) along with mindless internet surfing were the prime culprits. I've mostly burnt out with video games now though since I used to play "hardcore" hours in both those games to the point where I get bored or frustrated if I do pick those back up and don't feel like playing for months at a time. The porn and internet surfing is more difficult to control, but it's far less intense than it used to be since I can contain it all as long as I remain aware of the time I could spend drawing instead of doing all that other stuff.

Most importantly, I'd say that having to go back to school placed a premium on the amount of time I need to spend drawing, even if I don't necessarily care for /gd/ stuff, the principles are all applicable to typical drawing, and I think those skills will come in handy anyway.
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>>2474565
how do some guys have such good "line weight"?
like Jones for example, thats almos the only thing hes good at
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Drawfaggert lost a token!
Please die
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>>2474581
no bully
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drawfaggert don't you dare drop out
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>punished all but one
wew, the day starts off pretty good
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>>2474580
Someone post that one image
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yo Lava, in the announcements could you also show what week a person is from? If they get eliminated it tells you the week or what topic challenge they were from but not if they lose a token.
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I believe jp cheated.

look at his last submission. it shows a fairly good understanding of form and perception.
then look at his other work, its absolute crap.
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>>2474588
nah, I think he's just having trouble applying what he learned to his newer shit. And it looks like he was really lazy.
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>>2474588
They looks same
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>>2474477
that's why you post in the last few minutes, nobody looks at those ones
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>>2474581
I won't die :^) just that my drawing wasn't working out, so i decided i'd rather use up my token than post shit
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>>2474580
It's just a matter of practice (technical skill) and understanding form.
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>>2474588
http://basic-rubric.deviantart.com/ is his deviant art if people want to check that
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>>2474598
http://basic-rubric.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/ gallery all

http://basic-rubric.deviantart.com/art/Bambi-600007740
m-muh dickkkk!!!
>>
I wonder who will be evaluated today.
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>>2474597
How is it that people need tutorials for stuff like this?
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>>2474592
>>2474594
he at least copied someone elses sketches, which is unbelievably stupid.
but he didn't do those animal studies, no way.
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>>2474606
Nothing wrong with copying someone else's sketches as long as he didn't try to pass them off as his own. You can learn from copying sketches just like doing master studies man, no rules only tools.
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>>2474573
But what if I work yet still don't get better?
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>>2474610
it means you don't have the spark sorry
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>taking picture in front of macbook and coffee mug with pencil books and other shit
Punished ;^)
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>>2474610
Welcome to the plateau my friend. Nothing to do but keep working and eventually things will click a bit and you'll get a little better. And always always remember, when things are at their toughest and it's uphill all the way, that tends to be right before you break out the plateau and have a little level up.
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Yo, lava, you should mention what the Topic was in Tribunal Cases, like http://lavaflake.com/draw/tribunal/?id=167
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Loli, pls be my gf
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>>2474597
thanks dude
>>2474604
fuck off faggot, you probably draw like crap.
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>>2474616
How do you leave the plateau?
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>>2474626
you just keep going

>Nothing to do but keep working and eventually things will click a bit and you'll get a little better.
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>>2474626
oh my little nigger, you still have so much to learn
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Lokki Ah Puch is a scrub god for scrub players and you should feel ashamed.

>>2474626
>>2474628
This.
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>>2474626

By busting your ass everyday.
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>>2474623
I dunno, man. I mean, you are drawing lines all the time so why wouldn't you think about how you're drawing them and why they look like they do.
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can I get a name of this artist?
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>>2474626
you have to reach it first
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Alright guys report in with your art goals!

I'll start, I'm looking to git gud at animation as well as comic book art. Wanna tell GOAT stories and maybe be a comic artist+writer or work as a storyboard artist. Hopefully it's achievable.
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>>2474652

Andrew Loomis
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>>2474659

I am hoping to get good at animation as well, but going to grind basic drawing skills first.
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>>2474659

To be better than u
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I miss the streams.
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>>2474659
to carry on rover's legacy and become a great porn artist except not in the way he intended
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>>2474669
they miss you
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>>2474668
You already are Pham. Congratulations on achieving your goals.
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>>2474669
bitch i streamed 10h today where was you
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>>2474659
I want to get a job this summer even something like making assets for phone apps or anything. Next summer I want to be ready to send a portfolio to places like Blizzard or some TCG companies to try and get illustration work. After that I just want to sustain and build a rep so I can make and publish my own comics.
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>>2474659
I want to get to the point I can create nice looking landscapes and giant fighting robots then use that to draw something related to anime girls with that stuff
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>>2474659
Right now, I have this silly idea of actually taking this comic seriously and trying to get some people to follow it, and eventually making a patreon for it. May be a waste of time, but my life's already a wreck anyway so may aswell try.
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>>2474659
I want to be the goddamn Michaelangelo of lewd art. I want to be a great master. But my dreams are stupid.
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>>2474669
I miss Stella
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>>2474659
I want to be able to do things in a professional level.
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>>2474659

I want to be able to shit in a running washing machine and be lauded for it, the masses perceiving it as a beautiful manifestation of my peerless artistic vision.
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>>2474659
Also my main goal for this year is to just get a commission or too. I'm sure someone would pay me at my level even though I'm shit but it wouldn't feel right.
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>>2474669
Did people stop streaming? I think Erdrich streamed yesterday and so did Neko. Bondage fairy streamed today too.
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>>2474659
I don't have any plans of making a career out of art. I just want to depict the images in my mind and create things that make me and others happy. It would be nice to make some money on the side from commissions and whatnot, but I mostly want to git gud so I can be proud of myself and draw what I want.
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>>2474675
>>2474708
They doing streams at different times or something then, or just not posting in the thread when they're on? If it's on the new site then I also wont get notifications like on picarto.
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>>2474659
I just wanna get decent enough that I can do good concept art for my own vidya gaem.
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>>2474708
Don't worry I'll set up a stream in 5 minutes
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>>2474718
What sort of game is it?
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>>2474659
Ultimately I just want to draw cute little girls.

My problem is that I really want to do everything, animation, painting, comics, landscape/character/vehicle concept art, 3d sculpting and game environments.

I think I'll be happy getting to a point where I can comfortably take commissions for a while.
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>>2474723
Metroidvania.
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>>2474659
Same as these two here : >>2474710 >>2474718.

Won't answer questions about the game.
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>>2474708
>>2474717
No, seriously, there's streams every day. Please search the page for the word stream and check the latest result before you ask after streams/complain about one not being on. It would be silly for us to remind the thread every other hour that we're streaming, right?
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>>2474725
>My problem is that I really want to do everything
This is exactly my problem. I have trouble sticking with one thing so I just end up amateur in many things.
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>>2474731
Susi and UBF posted today but both ages ago.
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>>2474738
Susi ended his stream only about an hour ago, dude.
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>>2474738
Yeah but often we stream for hours on end! Like I said, 10 hours today. Please still check, usually if it's offline there's info about a migration in the chat. I mean I don't have a problem when ppl ask if a stream is up, it's a good chance to remind the thread but then when people complain about a lack of them it feels a bit ehhhh
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>>2474725
>>2474733
Same here guys but I believe if we keep this up we'll end up reaching a level where these things are possible. Assuming we're 20-30 it's still somewhat young, we still have a lot of time ahead. Some mangaka or game artists are already elders and yet are still creating things after all.

I understand the struggle of wanting to do many things at once very well though. Everyday it's a battle against time. There are days where I feel like dropping some of these things to focus on only one but... ultimately I really want to keep them all. If I can make my dreams come true in regard to art then I can die happy.
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>>2474659
My goals are to:

>do art for my own RPG
>create great webcomics
>become a freelance artist
>get a comic published someday

I'm sure as hell not working like somebody with these aspirations though...
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>>2474753
>I'm sure as hell not working like somebody with these aspirations though...
I know that feel senpai. My work ethic is eons better then a few months ago though, partly because of LAS and partly because I changed my mindset. I'm hoping I pick up some steam on tumblr after I get to a reasonable level since I heard marvel and DC have been hiring artists off of there.
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>>2474753
>I'm sure as hell not working like somebody with these aspirations though...
Anon, I'm very disappointed.
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for those of you who said you don't want to do art for a living, what do you currently do for a living then?
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>>2474760
nothing
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>>2474760
nothing, waiting for death
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>>2474733
Just picking up software gets me so excited, I have million programs with a few hours spent in each. I should really get a better drawing foundation before I branch out but it's so hard to resist.

>>2474747
I believe. It just comes down to how long I can realistically grind art 24/7 until I have to go get another job to feed myself.
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>>2474760
NEET life
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>>2474761
does ES stand for EldritchSinner?
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>>2474725
I have the same issue.
But my plan is:
-Being able to actually draw things with good construction.
-Being able to draw concept art
-Learn 3d Sculping
-Learning animation.
I know that this isn't easy or even possible without enought will.
By the way i'm learning english and i want to learn other languajes.
I'm actually translating tsgumomo to Spanish and Some doujins.
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>>2474768
it could if you want it too :^)
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>>2474722
where's the strem?
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>>2474769
I'm not very good, but I use zbrush while I learn anatomy, just sculpting muscles and body parts as I study them.

I think it's helping me a lot, I'm getting used to the software and sculpting things seems like a really good way to learn anatomy/proportions.
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>>2474777
That does sound good, I'm happy for you. I don't really care to breach 3D sculpting but maybe I'll make a physical model.
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>>2474772
Couldn't figure out how to set up a stream so I got to stream dodge for now
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>>2474659
I want to draw porn of me and my waifu
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>>2471492
>>2474780
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>>2474777
But you are very good taking those Trips anon
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>>2474780
>>2474784
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA, I'm sorry Santi
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>>2474777
Zbrush is the best thing for people that actually draw because is really simple to understand instead of sculpting with other standard software
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>>2474790
>no dubs
NOT GONNA MAKE IT
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>>2474793
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>>2474790
Is it really? 3D sculpting always seemed really complicated and intimidating to me, but now I might be interested.
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>>2474795
Yeah it's a different way of sculpting it's like using a brush over a 3d form
>>2474794
>>2474790
>>2474793
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>>2474794
1
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>>2474798
>98
>9-8=1
Are you a wizard?
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>>2474798
2
>>
If dubs I'm confirmed gonna make it, if not Loomis will get me.
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>>2474810
loomis is coming to get you
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>>2474795
Do it, just grab the free trial of zbrush right now and watch any 10 minute youtube tutorial. It's basically just drawing but in 3d. The program only gets more complicated when you need to start dealing with their layer system and polycount/mesh stuff.

Actually get Sculptris instead, it's a really simple free version of zbrush by the same company.

>>2474803
>>2474798
>>2474797
>>2474794
>>2474810
>>2474802
you guys suck at this
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>>2474810
FUCK
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>>2474811
You're going to make it, congrats.
>>
Why people use shitty picarto for streams? Just because someone has premium? Why not piczel?
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>>2474812
The sculpting art programs for Virtual Reality look interesting too, I can't wait to see what the future holds for art within VR
>>
How many hours a day are you guys drawing?
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>>2474849
on a bad day 1-2 on a good day 4-8
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>>2474849
0.3 in a moth
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I saw the Loomis truck today.
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>>2474854
:o So did I
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>>2474836
Wew anon you sure are pushing that place. The place has merit but you may wanna reel it back a tad lad.
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>>2474849
All fucking day every fucking day.
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>>2474849
if i'm not drawing i'm procrastinating drawing, my whole existence is art right now
>>
https://picarto.tv/VitaminNeko Streaming.
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>>2474870
Why are you here then?
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>>2474876
I can't be here while I'm drawing?
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>>2474849
Depends on how much free time I have. Typically 40 minutes to 6 hours.
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>>2474850
>>2474893
That's way too much variation faggots. How much do you CONSISTENTLY draw?
>>
hey there sexy ladies what do i draw for floral??? ;)
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>>2474914
thorny rose vines going all the way through your tight little butt, boy <3
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>>2474916
Roses are shrubs, not vines, you piece of shit.
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>>2474659
I'm just a hobbyist and honestly just want to hit Deviant Art tier =[
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>>2474914
pussies.
>>
Alright, where the FUCK is my evaluation at? I'm dying of old age here

please help
>>
>no new evaluation today
You have shit work ethic senpai, you have just destroyed your credibility.
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>>2474849

at least 2 barring unforeseen circumstances. Usually 4, up to 12 on weekends (if you count all the time spent reading the art books and digging through resources).

As much as I'd like to do more, the day does not have that many hours in it. I can only give up so much sleep.
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>>2474659

Want to learn 2d animation and be able to maintain a consistent skill level to do comics. Want to get good enough to build a modest internet following and not feel totally ashamed of what my hands produce.
>>
https://picarto.tv/CraniumOverLord

Blurry faces
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>>2474445
It's in an hidden part of the website so you can't see it anyway
So why would you care about our secret club?
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>>2474486

+5 views is negligible

20 views of which are only artists is meaningless
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>>2474849
6-8 usually, but lately i've somehow managed to slip down to a mere 4
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>>2474974
good shit senpai. How do you split that time up? I'm gonna be moving to the 5-6 hour range soon.
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srry bbies
http://lasevaluations.tumblr.com/post/142336637066/critique-2-cyan
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>>2474786
T-that's not me
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>>2474982
Noice. What order are you going through users?
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>>2474982
pls don't stop before you get to me
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>>2474988
Week 1 day 1, day 2, and so on (anyone who is still posting even if they lost their tokens)
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>>2474982
i really want you to do me but i am also terrified by the prospect of someone looking so in depth at my shit.

so keep it up
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>>2474991
>tfw day 3
Damn it, this'll take forever. :( Keep it up tho
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>>2474991
>>2474995
At least you'll have enough time to gussy up your work so your most recent stuff will make you look better

maybe
>>
Streaming with VitaminNeko and cranium

https://picarto.tv/UltraBondageFairy

I will be on for the next 10 hours.
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>>2474982
>>2474991
>>2474996

you just made me go back and look at my first submissions, and I didn't realize that I've actually improved. My new shit isn't perfect by any means and I'm still one of the worst artists on LAS but feels good to know that I haven't been wasting my time. The mistakes in my old work look so apparent now and I can't believe I didn't realize what I was doing wrong earlier. Hopefully I'll git even gudder before my evaluation, another goal to work towards.
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>>2474979
I dont split the time up as much as i would've liked to, but right now i do 1-2 hours of work on a still life or study, 1 hour on painting random shit from my head and the remainder is usually spent working on unfinished paintings
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>>2475000
mirin' dat work ethic. How come you don't submit to LAS every day? I don't doubt that you draw that much, just curious. ALSO CHECKIN' THOSE TRIPS.
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>>2475001
My work ethic isnt all that special lol.
I've said this twice before i think but the reason i dont submit everyday is because it's unnecessary for me to
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>>2475008
prob. not that special in the grand scheme of things but most people on /ic/ don't put in that many hours. Plus your super young right now so it makes it a bit more special imo. Why do you feel it is unnecessary? All you'd really have to do is submit a link to your work, wouldn't take more than a minute out of your day.
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I live in a shitty country in central america i don't have a single buck, do you think that if i put all my mind, time, hopes and effort in drawing (traditional and digital) i can live off my art? Portfolio > Degree?
I only have Internet, pirate photoshop, A pencil an eraser, a scanner and two hands.
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>>2475010
>Plus your super young right now so it makes it a bit more special imo.
I think that's what allows him to do it. It's pretty easy to do fine in high school with minimal effort as long as you aren't retarded. So he's not too busy like a college student, but not helplessly depressed like a NEET. But still, good job on getting your shit together this early, I would have liked to.
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>>2475011
Commissioning those in wealthier countries could be a good idea, and is easy with digital. But if you're a beginner to art, there are more immediately profitable things you can do.
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>>2474849
4-5, more if I go to my classes.
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>>2475014
>there are more immediately profitable things you can do.
Can you give me some examples?
and yes i'm a beginner, i don't know any basics.
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>>2475011
Go onto furafinity. Do extreme fetishes for money.

It wont be long until you are rolling in guilt and money
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I'm fucking tired of JasonWaterFalls
I want him OUT
OUT
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>>2475017
Well I'm not really sure what's available to you, but I know there's a market for crafts by artists from impoverished countries. Like carvings/sculptures/wovens/etc. That's still artistic, but it's quicker to learn how to make something that doesn't look really shitty. You could set up an online store (like on Etsy) and include enough for shipping in the price. Play up the cultural value of your pieces and how the customer will be supporting a poor Central American artist and you can sell it for more than it's worth.
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>>2475021
Damnit
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>>2475019
Why does he do it?

Surely he must realize by now he's never gonna make it.
>>
Sweet, we're well over 1000 posts, good job lads
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>>2475012
>good job on getting your shit together this early
That's the main thing. HS is like a double edged sword, you have lots of freetime but most people end up wasting it. Good on Nile for having the correct mindset early on.
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new thread....
new thread....
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>>2474659
First I just wanted to draw gunslingers and other characters, then after I started I got some real goals. Currently hoping to do something along the lines of story telling
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Hey guys how do I set up a stream?
Thanks
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>>2475066
Are you Santi's friend? Nice to meet you.
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