DRAW THREAD

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gonna call this one "Cairn"

>>2421309
this is fire

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gotta post this here too
life drawing

so wheres the real draw thread?

>>2421309

This sucks

>>2421329
i didnt feel like making a new image that was the only draw thread thing i had. we dont care that much about the image do we?

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i did another one

>>2421309
>>2421347

Hahahahahah, my fucking god

>>2421307
post link to the new thread faggot

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lost to much time for this

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how are my fundamentals coming along /ic/?

>>2421469
pretty bad

>>2421469
how are we supposed to judge fundamentals of of a drawing you did by comparing angles and did no construction ( top right look at all of her fingers ( all broken)). I'd go into it further but you literally have the perfect version so just overlay it and youll see.

TLDR this is a photocopy, do form and then ask for fundamentals help.

>>2421469
nothing hugely wrong about proportion. It will be improved over practice. but I think you should draw lines much more clearly.

>>2421472
>>2421473
fair enough

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>>2421473
is this what you mean by constructing?

>>2421491
chicken scratches are bad man

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I desperately need some advice guys. This one is probably beyond saving but how do git gud at painting landscapes? At first I try to block in some colors (like those clouds) but after that I'm lost. How do I continue? Anything I should study? I just need some direction.

>>2421501
draw the picture. does it look like the picture? no? make it look like the picture

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I tried transparent art of woman who suffers severe neck and shoulder disjointment.

Is there a smart way to get rid of 'this shit'? You look closely, there's thin outline survived from magic wand deletion. it bugs me out.
Of course I can manually erase all that thing. but there's better way to do so. isn't it?

>>2421528
clippingmagic.com...dunno if there is an equivilant photoshop plugin

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>>2421528
i got you f,a,m try this

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Used a reference but changed their poses a little bit.

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how are my fundamentals coming along /ic/?

>>2421589
better than mine by the looks of it.

>>2421589

Keep at it. I think you could work on your line qualit, maybe try a harder pencil and do less squiggly smushy lines. Also avoid doing spaghetti hair which makes your work look more noobie-ish than it really is

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Trying to harmonize colors of an object not native to the environment.Leather rendering is tricky dicky.

>>2421619
niiice.
my shit is >>2421488
>>2421469
how many years away am i from your paintings?

>>2421619
Looking good anon, nice colors, values and brushstrokes! The only thing that jumped at me is the highlights on the leather bag in the top right pic, it's too white and hard, it doesn't look like the material it's supposed to be (like you said, leather is tricky) Look at some ref photo's, that should quickly help.

>>2421469
>>2421488
Dig the bold perspectives! I don't think your construction is as bad as some of the other anon's are claiming, you're on the right track.But try to focus a bit more on line confidence, right now your lines are a bit chicken-scratchy and hard to read. Also, facial construction is something you could benefit practicing.

>>2421589
>>2421608
Is this considered noobish by IC standards?
>>2421619
Pretty cool man

>>2421501
Looks at the thumbnails you just posted, do you see what your version is lacking? Atmosphere perspective! Put your focus a bit away from shapes and try to focus more on values and hues. Something that helps me is to keep both the ref and your canvas quite small on the screen when you're working in the start. It will automatically shift your focus.

>>2421636
cheers! will do

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Hey /ic/ do you can my lines and shading be improved?

>>2421638

Spaghetti hair is a noob mistake, yes. Line quality plays a huge part aswell.

>>2421307
A quick sketch from memory. This girl qt af in real life.

Please critique.

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>>2421694
Forgot pic.

>>2421696
pics of real girl

>>2421692

Nice, blog?

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>>2421504
>>2421642
Thanks. Took both of your advices and tried to fix it.

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thoughts

>>2421699
Sorry. I don't have pics.

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>>2421696

nose seems too narrow and the lips are fairly shapeless.

>>2421753
I really like the color choices. Not too crazy about his stance, it's difficult to read. is he just standing around twisting?

>>2421530
It looks handy for photos. but for monochrome line art, it's not great. It gets confused what is outline or not. bad luck!

>>2421565
that's godlike... countless times will not be wasted thanks to you.

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its still wet so theres a glare

>>2421820
do you sell these pieces?

>>2421840
nope

>>2421840
why, you buying? id sellem if they sold.

>>2421842
yeah I'll give you 3 dollars

>>2421772
Thx fampai.

to the guy I said to practice scales in the last thread:
>>2418757

Practicing in charcoal is what I'd recommend actually. Get compressed charcoal in medium and soft hardness (you don't really need hard, it's super brittle and you can basically get the right lights if you're careful. Hard is only useful if you're doing academic drawings and even then you can get away with medium). Just lay in value with thick parallel lines (not because you're pressing hard, but because you're using the side). Start with real light pressure. Then do a perpendicular layer with more pressure if the value doesn't match the scale. do the next layer at 45 degrees. The next two layers at 60 and 30 degrees, etc. until it's dark enough.

I recommend these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F8XBQ2?keywords=prang%20wrapped%20charcoal%20pencil%20medium%20pack%20of%2012&qid=1456769654&ref_=sr_1_fkmr1_1&sr=8-1-fkmr1

or something similar. usually they show up with half the pack broken, but the ones that aren't shattered inside are god-tier charcoal instruments.

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R8 me.

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Howdy, gents. I made a picture.

>>2421876
The colors get muddy, especially on the skin. I would recommend setting up a palette where you incorporate what I call a "middleman color." Instead of just color sampling from where you blend your midtones and shadows, you incorporate this middleman color to help keep the colors saturated and from becoming too muddy. I would also recommend looking to incorporate cast shadows in your work. It's especially noticeable around the chains. Without cast shadows, they seem very disconnected.

>>2421880
considering the file name, i doubt it.

>>2421887
It's a link from CG+

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Working on Metroid Fusion fanart.

>>2421323
The flesh folds and lighting look really good. The folded cloth looks like it could use some work. It looks like a solid object and could be a little softer. I assume you didn't care to put effort into it though.

>>2421447
Keep it up.

>>2421469
Maybe clean up your drawings before posting. Erase sketch lines.

>>2421491
Work softer pencil lines please.

>>2421501
The grass is greener on the bottom side, for one. Also what that other guy said.

>>2421528
This is really cool.

>>2421581
There are many errors here, there are two very glaring mistakes here. The right guy has no heel on his standing foot and his head look like a deformed potato. Use reference or try constructing the body.

>>2421589
Keep up the good work.

>>2421619
Very nice.

>>2421676
Would pet.

>>2421683
Would not pet.

>>2421692
Fork brush addict here, cool stuff. Just needs more rendering.

>>2421722
Nice improvement.

>>2421753
Cool style.

>>2421876
Your character lacks darker shadows. The bottom of the neck looks really wierd. Otherwise cool stuff, not much to comment on.

>>2421878
Cute. Is it a burdglar?

>>2421880
Character design is neat, she just needs depth. Add some shadow/lightning.

>>2421881
Sweet. The eyes look good. I'd probably swap the hatching for solid coloring if were you.

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I keep trying to do "quick" head studies just to memorize basic shapes, but i can't bring myself to do it
i always lose 30-60 mins on each study, and because i take so long the end product always has misaligned features

>>2421753
whats going on at his hips? you might wanna draw his body over the picture so you can fix it. if he's just fat, his face certainly doesn't match.

you seem to have faces down alright, but your bodies always seem off

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working on a comic based on Catt. here's a part of a panel

how do i bulid up a visual liberary again / by just fast copying objects right ?

>>2421497
Pencil lines? What pencil lines?

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need some serious help with the legs, have redrawn this like 5 times so far, and they still look off. Tried to find reference but nothing good came up

>>2421899
>because i take so long
No, it's misaligned because you're trying to rush. Take the time to make sure everything is in its correct place, repeat this for several years, and then you'll be able to do quick accurate sketches.

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>>2421894
Sick as hell man.

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Loomis heads

>>2421876
6.1/10

>>2421753
Not a fan of this one. The lines on the figure aren't working together as you usually manage to. His clothing lacks form and generally isn't pleasing to look at. Truthfully, I feel like the whole pose should be re-worked. It's incredibly stiff, especially his right arm.

Nice colours as usual.

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>>2422042
Meh i take it.

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.

>>2422040
keep practicing, those are pretty awful

>>2422140
I think we see a little too much of the top plane of the had but im not 100%

Love you firez, the eyes are almost ok! like 2 px!

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>>2421347
I'm not one to scream at abstract work as heresy but you really do need work on the fundamentals. Not necessarily drawing from life if you don't want to do that (although its a great way to practice these things), but color, line, composition, etc. will help enormously.
There's a real big difference between good and bad scribbles. Don't think of abstraction as an easy way out. Its harder to do it well IMO.

>>2421777
>>2421798
>>2421894
>>2421902
thanks f,a,m i agree with all critts.

>>2422040

lol why render when it's clear the drawing is off?

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>>2422140
few minor things
ignore if you finds yours more aestethically pleasing

>>2422195
>>2422140
you're gonna repost this image 10 million times now, aren't you?

>>2422173
someone explain abstract to me
what is this shit
it looks like nothing
i dont think i'll ever really understand it, if that's even possible

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drew some of that ref qt

>>2422151
What needs work?

>>2422188
Practice?

>>2422198
Do you like colors, forms, the actual formal elements of art and non-concrete references?
If you don't you'll never get it because it might as well be in a different field from what you practice.

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Here is a version without soft brush blending.
I once read to never use soft brushes, but I thing It looks better with the blending

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>>2422253
>>2422040

Construction, placement of features is wrong. For example, in the top one, the mouth is too small, remember that the corner of the mouth should fall where the iris is (or center of the eye is the person is not looking straight ahead)

In the bottom one the eyes are not on the same level and the ear looks off too.

I had problems with the placement of the features too, I think you need to practice the planes of the head a little more, unfortunately in that book loomis gives the subject only a page without really telling you how to aproach it, he just goes "okay dipshit, this is a simple version of the planes, got that? now this is a more advance one. Right, lets move on". Just google for some planes of the head images, study them with the simple version loomis gives, then do the planes on skulls and from there start to incorporate the minor planes. Do it with reference and from imagination, you'll eventually get it

>>2422297
>I once read to never use soft brushes
that's retarded

>>2422314
cool, thanks g

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birds are hard

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>tfw always smudge up drawings so I end up wearing the page really thin by constantly erasing smudged areas
I think I'm coming along decently with more realistic drawings though (more of a sci-fi fantasy horror guy most of the time), for one they're actually kinda starting to look like who they're meant to be. Still a long way to go though.

>>2422297
A tool is a tool. It all depends on how you utilize it. For instance, the burn/dodge tools are generally looked down upon for being used to shade pieces. But they are useful for lightening and darkening areas of an image if applied judiciously.

>>2422297
I actually like this version more to be honest, looks more like an actual painted clay sculpture (if that's what you're going for).

>>2422418
for the smudging, try to protect your hand and your image by keeping a piece of paper in between them. don't drag the paper, if you need to reposition it, lift your hand/paper to do so.

Also, use a kneaded eraser, it can pick up light smudges just through pressure alone without the need for rubbing/friction.

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>>2422152
>>2422195
Thanks

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Thoughts? Just a quick sketch for a project Web comic I want to do.

>>2422297
Don't exclusively use soft brushes*

>Start with Hard brush block in values
>Soft brush to soften value transitions

Ta-da!

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>>2422475
>>2422297

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Looking for c&c on color.
I know the crown is wrong, I'll get to it.

>>2422475
RIP edges

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About 3 hours, crits plz

>>2422554
why does she look so lifeless?

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>>2422539
not liking how you shaded the lips.

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>>2422559
portrait painting traditionally had pretty neutral expressions.

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>>2422559
Idk maybe I should have looked more at people irl especially in their eyes

>>2422568
Make the pupils pop more and add stronger shine if you would like to add more 'liveliness' to them.
>>2420184

>>2422561
I'm trying to make it look like she's wearing purple lipstick, any thoughts on how I could make that read better?

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>>2422573
My criticism doesn't have anything to do with the color. The shading is what matters here and yours makes the lips look bulgy.

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>>2422566
That doesn't make lifeless portraits any better. Neutral =/= lifeless by any means,

>>2422577
Oh I didn't understand you meant a drawing issue. Well I may work on that but I'm primarily focusing on color right now. Thanks for the input though.

>>2422578
if it's not the expression, then perhaps better define lifeless for me? what are the qualities to make a portrait lively?

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I don't think I'm ever going to finish this. The hair is still far from finished and then theres the flowers on the top.

>>2422594
>hair far from finished
some people amaze me
maybe one day i will call this hair unfinished

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>>2422613
well I gots a lot more of the actual painting left to do bu thanks :D Just a crafty crop.

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>>2422572
Thanks, perhaps I should do more studies.

I really need to finish this one but the abdominal area is killing me,

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>>2422630
just gotta get some ref. The whole breast and shoulders area look a bit off as well in your painting.

Just looks all kinds of uncomfortable and stiff.

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perspective is a bit fucked, but i had fun doodling this.

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something is uber fuckered up with the bod

im not entirely sure what that is

also the elf is meant to be thick
in fact I might make it a LOT thicker later on

>>2422557
I think it looks pretty good, what else are you planning on adding to it?

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>>2421307
send help
how do i improve this thing

>>2422629
neat.

>>2421972
I guess no one here knows shit bout legs then

>>2422441
cute.

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>>2422657
I feel that your shading isnt really following the planes of the face, just hugging the edges of your linework.

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>>2422646
I understand she is supposed of be thick, but I think the torso to pelvis size ratio is a little borked, and the leg on the right is much too far out. I make some adjustments to give you a general idea of what I mean.

>>2422677
I don't see anything egregious.

>>2422140
>>2422435
these are both nice. There's something "soft " about them that I think is nice/cute

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>>2422706
I see where your coming from
but these small modifications pretty much mean I have to redo the whole thing

>>2422719
At least you caught it at the sketch stage?

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>>2422719

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tough as nails

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>>2422732
those boobies are really high up.

>>2422736
you're right, thanks. Ref I used had an arch back so the breast were higher, but thhen the collars were more flat.

Just didn't pay attention when I combined the refs. Thanks!

>>2422732
Who are you?
I've never seen your work here, I like it.

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Studying badly...

>>2422594
My ex had a cat with those eyes. Spike was a cute cat.
I'm also a fan of your works, even with how depressing your captions tend to be. Thanks for sticking around.

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wip

>>2422594

Blog?

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FECK

>>2421323
is it batya?

>>2422803
Dude, this is awsome

>>2422803
Some pretty sexellent brushes you got there yo.

>>2421528
"That shit" is called aliasing. The only way you'll get rid of that is by smoothing it out manually and redrawing the edges after the paste. The problem is you cut it out and residual pixels remain from the original source.

>>2422654
Looking at it now, the face looks way too short. It might be a bit late to make such a major change, but I /might/ give it a try. Other than that, I have some darker pencils to take to it for background/more contrast. Thanks!

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Fixed it up more.

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>>2421309
/ic/ hates abstract paintings

>mfw the direction of movement and asymmetry of the dark symbols on the right side balancing out the left is pretty clever

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>>2421307
took anon advices

>>2422872

Those waves wouldn't be have that saturated blue under a sunset.

>>2421692
Thumbnail looks amazing!! But still a bit messy and unrefined to crit in full view.

>>2422872
It's not really clear what the viewer should be looking at. I'm guessing this is still a wip, but the orange cliff in the foreground doesn't depict form. Finally, I think the pterodactyl on said cliff is doing a good job killing the composition. Don't take the easy way out; change the angle of its head to point towards the scenery as opposed to having a profile view of it for no reason.

>>2422594
>>2422629
Gorgeous!! Push forward, anon! Would love seeing this finished.

>>2422630
I really like your color palette in this, pops more then your usual stuff.

>>2422732
Beautiful face, just lower the boobies a bit like the other anon said and your golden.

>>2422803
Very sexy hues and brushstrokes!

>>2422847
Looking better, but glaze over the mountains a bit more with some light blue, still could use some more atmosphere. And be careful not to over-render stuff in the background, try using brushes with slightly lower opacity the further back you go, might help.

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This is the first digital painting I'm making, and I'm doing this on photoshop with a mouse.

I used a photo for anatomy reference (I only changed her right leg position and made her spine I little longer because it was looking off), and another photo for the face (it was basically tracing here, just changed her hair).
The original one here on my photoshop is 5000x5000.

But I just did this tracing and I don't know where I go from here.

Should I start thinking about the base colors and shadows and highlights? I only know how to shade with a pencil, how would I go from shading in photoshop?
What other heads up can you guys give me, thinner lines?
Any other tutorials I can see for digital drawings?

I'm going to buy a tablet later in the year, I want to get serious about this.

>>2422763
I mean, it's be fine if she had an arched back, but there's nothing in the drawing to indicate that, so it loks like we're looking at her straight-on.

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>>2422816
sorry to keep picking, but the boobie on the left is floating.

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>>2422929
>smaller size

>>2422937
eyes, yea i see that, as for the chin. nordic my frund

>>2422774
wakkawa

>>2422943
sorry deleted my thing cause I realized it was supposed to be a woman, and I had posted a male ref.

>>2422947
it hurts senpai.

>>2422860
>mfw brian just painted whatever and you are trying to objective qualities to his spastic brushstrokes

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> Commissioner wanted to give me 75- is this fair?

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Not much progress today, struggling with foreshortening. I should have planned ahead.

>>2423010
I really like it anon

>>2423010
>I should have planned ahead.
If you think that, then you need to go back to the drawing board. Whip out your sketchbook and figure out the areas you're having issues with. While you're at it, try some composition, camera, and lighting thumbnail variants to make sure the direction you're currently heading is the best you can possibly do.

In your solving, you may find you'll have to repaint most of the piece. If that happens, that's fine. You might also find that you only need to make minor tweaks to fix what's bothering you.

>>2423010
>>2423013
Also, I don't know if you noticed it or not, but you have Samus's gun on the wrong arm.

>>2422977
>mfw you're replying to Brian replying to himself

>>2421753
Love the colours and the style, hate his posture and stance. Fix that arm and leg.

>>2423015
>mfw when i am also brian

>>2423006
take the money and run

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which one is better?

trying something new with my brush.

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>>2423053

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How can I make this better ?

>>2423055
perspective looks a bit off to me but i'm a noob so take it with a grain of salt

>>2422835
So, if original file was in vector format, aliasing are not gonna happen right? ( until converting into bitmap of course. )
I've been curious why images made via Adobe Illustrator does not have this thing.
Thanks for the information.

>>2423055
there's only blue tone. If you put some more colors would be nice. i suppose.

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>>2422936

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>>2423054
oops sorry these were way too big. resized.

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>>2423066

you're really not in a position to give crits ,anon

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>>2423088

>>2422706
That's better and the original was definitely a case of too wide pelvis.

Though I would have moved the other leg towards the right instead, for a more interesting pose

>>2422886
Thanks, will definitely try it out.

>>2423089
why not? i thought her face is not where it should be, considering her skull position. whether she's pretty or not.

>>2423066
I'm sorry but that's a terrible "fix". The anatomy is worse and you changed the character of the face too much.

>>2423107
because you have no idea what you're talking about and you're just putting in "skull position" hoping not to sound ignorant. All you did was deform warp the face into ridiculous anime proportions.

>>2423114
>>2423116

okay then. I was wrong.
but i don't see what's quite wrong about it. can you show me the right way?
I don't mean to defend myself just to know what's wrong.

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New to sanguine, a lot of fun but maybe I should use a stump. Any tips for using this medium?

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>>2422936
>>2423066
other anon here

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>>2423152

I over animu-fied her face. Now I see what's wrong. good to know what I missed. thanks man.
sorry original anon I didn't want to mess with your thing. I should think twice before crit someone.

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Working on it...

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>>2421881

>>2423053
this

>>2423222
i agree with you. what did you like more about this one?

>>2423054
This one's eyes seem too close together. The dog's right eye is also blending in with the fur

Other looks fluffier and the faces makes more sense

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Learning about torso anatomy, any useful tips?

>>2423283
play whack-a-bone and poke-a-muscle

it helps to memorize names and retain information about what is what

>>2423292
Neat, will definitely check out later, thanks.

>>2423247
thanks for the feedback!

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This I drew during my deppression episode. Not yammering, just saying so you know where this came from.

Critique please?

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I did a study using only circle selections.
This is the ref: >>2423100

>>2423317
Looks like jontron if he got stung by an entire nest of bees.

>>2423311
Sorry man but it looks like a typical highschool angst doodle.

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So this is just a sketch rn but I kinda like Wonderwoman lately, especially the idea of her being like 35-40 and having a kid. Gonna work on it more tomorrow. Let me know of any horrible terrible mistakes (if it's not too sketchy at this stage), gonna study muscles a bit to make her buff.

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will take all critique,

using Loomis and Proko for video summaries. what can i improve?

>>2423185
beg thread
>>2423006
ya its too much actually.

>>2422198
This kind of abstract isn't actually abstract art, cause abstract art has inherent meaning like a mondrian is all about balance and weight, whereas these other "abstract" paintings are merely made to look cool on a wall.

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How the fuck do I into shading/lighting, I always draw random shit like this when I'm bored in class (starting with a somewhat proportioned skeleton framework that I can't be fucked to measure) but never get anything beyond this point.

Any general constructive advice would also be appreciated

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>>2423187

>>2423379
> I always draw random shit like this when I'm bored in class
>but never get anything beyond this point.
There's nothing wrong about doodling. but you should know, that doodling is not about improving actual drawing skills.
doodling comes from your imagination. And as you doesn't have adequate skills, there's nothing gained by doing that.
You have to start anything else but doodling. There's plenty ways to improve such as quick sketch, figure drawing.. etc.
You can find these by reading sticky.

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>>2421899
>>2421974
ah, i was forgetting to measure shit again
it's really discouraging to see my animu proportions continue to stick to all of my studies time and time again.

thanks anon

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Finally started life drawing.

Anyone know a good way to resize images off my phone?

>>2423374
I can get behind some it of looking cool

Never drawn meaning from most of it though, and I can't appreciate the skill that goes in to it as much, because it just looks like random brush strokes, whether it is or not

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Anyone else fall into the trap of overdrawing? Usually I'll capture an expression that I'm happy with then fuck it up by feeling like I have to add more. Any tips to stop myself doing this? Pic kinda related.

>>2423448
>doodling is not about improving drawing skills

yes, it is. I am a noob and I do nothing else but doodle from imagination exclusively. I am 100% certain that I need to discover and explore my ability to draw before I give a single shit about the rules.
How can I not improve by constantly drawing anything that comes to mind, and trying each time to reach for a higher level of quality? Drawing is an ability, proportions and perspective are subskills of drawing. I.e I can draw a head that fits loomis rules perfectly but looks like shit, and I can draw a head that doesn't fit the rules but is on another level, aesthetically. How do you explain that? How can this entire board be ignorant of the ability to draw as a separate thing from props and perspective?

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>>2423526
>i can draw a head that fits loomis rules perfectly but looks like shit
are you fucking high my nigga?

>Drawing is an ability, proportions and perspective are subskills of drawing
this is a critique board for people who are looking to improve EXACTLY those things, you fucking imbecile.

you won't find free ass-pats here. run along back to /i/

>>2423449
how do we measure the face?

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>>2423526
if you're the same anon who drew Symbol Wizard, you're full of shit

>>2423379
Here, I'm not >>2423526 for the record.

>>2423448
I'd still like to branch out from doodling to something, well, decent.

>>2422636
Thanks anon, I was hoping it didn't had that many remarks because I've redrawn those parts several times. However I appreciate your suggestion and honesty, I will try harder

>>2422882
Thanks, I did play around with hues and layer modes more than usual

>>2423526
well like I said, there's nothing wrong about doodling. every artist doodles i believe. And I doodles too. because it's fun after all. But, If someone doodles WITH adequate skills, benefit gained from doodling astronomically increases.

Seeing his drawing skillz, he should not doodling if he want to go somewhere higher. Of course I'm not going to send him a picture of my frowned face whether he doodles or not. but If he ONLY does doodles ( which currently he's doing i suppose ), it's not going to be a good news for him. Like i said above, his skillz will sore up faster if he start practicing some basic things, such as sketching, figure drawing... etc.

I understand that imaginative and free form of art has it's value. But in my opinion, it's value must be combined with clinical skills. The reason people spend time on boring and tedious practice is, not because they are some kind of ego-death ignorant.

>>2423557
There are lots of different ways to measure, but drawing lines on my reference to show distances between elements on the face is how i go about it. Like the distance between her eyebrows, for example.

It also helps if I think of my subject as a series of planes & shapes instead of a face.

>>2423066
>>2423152
>>2423177

ew, wtf did you do, original was fine.

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trudging.... onward?

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I will never understand feet.

>>2423701
They help you walk. hth

>>2423684
I don't draw but the whole lower body looks off to me

Take this with a grain of salt, because I can't even pinpoint what looks off exactly

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>>2423711
Ive been working on this for no joke like over 12 hours

I have probably done like 30 renditions of the lower and upper body by now

this is like the only the second time in my life that ive drawn a full body
so I guess im learning a lot
but god I want to finish off with this one so I can draw something else
I dont know whats wrong with it other than generally everything's wrong

it would be a blessing if someone could redline the lower bod so I can finally get on to colouring

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critique please

>>2423731
eyes too big, nose too flat, forehead and cranium far too short, strengthen jaw and fix the chin and fix the left jowls

>>2423731

babby face trump

>>2423731

Looks more like Lloyd Bridges.

>>2423526
I agree with this.
A lot of /ic/ has this One Road mentality about learning to draw while forgetting the most important thing is to just draw. Of course you want to start incorporating rules and teachings as you go along but I've noticed the major thing most people struggle with at first is simply moving the pencil around the paper. So many beginners draw stiffly, can only focus on contours, and either press way too hard into the paper or try to build up these perfect lines by chicken hatching over them a million times. Learning to scribble and be loose goes a long way when it comes to learning to draw through a figure and do construction and gesture. I would always recommend anyone starting out to doodle as much as possible just to get comfortable with the process and then start building their knowledge.

>>2423731

The rendering is actually pretty good, but you polished a turd. I think >>2423737 hits on the big issues.

cool thanks party people

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>>2423684
gave it my best shot

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My friend told me that i only draw girls facing left, and i can't draw anything else, so i moved to robots.
Any thoughts?

>>2423684
>>2423723
What's she supposed to be doing?

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help, does this look appealing? concept wise and rendering?

>>2423782
standing very slightly hunched over in a position that gives off some nice dynamic lines

ill do something interesting with the arms only when I get a concrete hip-leg and chest position

which is proving painfully difficult for me

>>2423824
You should always draw a complete gesture and position all the limbs and head before you start doing lineart.

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>>2423826
I did
or at least I thought I did

but then after I finished lining up the face I realized I completely fuckered up the bod without my big delusional eyes noticing

>>2423779
>facing left still
>still a girl

>>2423836
Okay give me some more info about what she's doing. Is this supposed to be sexy? Is she preparing to fight someone? Is she hunched because she just picked something up or because she's tired? What are we going for here.

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>>2423839
the character is from a manga called dungeon meshi

she isnt doing really anything desu
just standing semi un-confident but open position looking towards the viewer

the idea is that im trying to actually make it look like a panel in the manga
90% of the time shes drawn just leaning around so thats what im doing

the manga itself is all about cooking and eating monsters so I though it would be funny to make her rather plump and maybe not entirely happy about it

yeah
thats the full explanation

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Really struggling. I am having trouble with the lips, maybe they don't look right because the chin is too long? Maybe the issue is my use of hard/soft brushes? Also not sure how my lighting is, I've been staring at this for too long.

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>>2423869
Well, here's my idea for a pose. The most important part of a pose is clarity. Clarity in the gesture, silhouette, and intent. Someone recently told me to keep these keywords in mind: character, place, action, emotion, reason. Get as clear an idea in mind as you can and go from there but don't be afraid to start over it you get stuck. You can also try doing thumbnails and mini gestures to work it out before you draw it. I hope any of that helps.

>>2424014
stop using such awful colors

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So what's wrong with this?
Can somebody red line it?

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How am I doing? I'm a total newb pls be gentle

>>2424038
Thanks, can you suggest better colours to use?

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direction im heading in right now

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pseudo-study

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would really like feedback before going forward with this. Also I can't draw splashing water pls help.

>>2424140

It's very hard to give you fb because it can barely be seen. Try taking another clearer picture

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wip character portrait for my ravenloft character.
comments? thoughts?

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And these are some creative perspective exercises. Interiors and exteriors.
Again, thoughts and comments?

>>2424152
blog.
>>2424149
center line of face.

>>2424159
Yeah, i'm trying to flip the image as much as possible, my center lines like to move around T_T

Sorry, blog?

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>>2424097
god
your coloring actually makes me genuinely angry
its so tasteless its difficult to describe
to produce something devoid like that and then ask rather than just fixing it
I highly doubt your are capable of ever improving

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The face went to shit, but I'm kind of happy with the line art. Opinions, if there are any to give? Things to do better next time?

>>2423900
Also, this is really rad.

>>2424181
I really appreciate your input, I am a complete beginner with colour but your first comment was really hard to decipher. Just calling the colours "awful" gave me no help at all. Were they flat? Dark? Do I have no contrast? Were they boring and needed brightening? Should I introduce more unusual colours?
I've always had great feedback, critique and advice from /ic/, so here's some for you; please learn to critique better and don't get mad over beginners. You were there once, or probably still are. You've probably had a hard day and you wanted to lash out at someone anonymously to try and feel better about yourself. That's okay, I've had a hard day too after trying hard on something and have someone tell me that I will never improve. I'll try extra hard to make sure I improve. You try extra hard to improve your attitude too, sempai!

>>2424164
is this like a reverse blog meme?

>>2424203
I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean? Is what a meme?

>>2424206

>>2424128
Got confused lol im an idiot.

>>2424210
rad :D

>>2424213
ok i got to admit, coordinated trolling over 2 threads was pretty good.

>>2424219
No I really have no idea what you are talking about.
You said "blog." when talking about my pictures. I didn't know what you meant, so I asked "blog?" and now we're derailing the thread together.

Please explain T_T I feel really dumb.

>>2424224
ya im not falling for that.

>>2424227
Please explain : ( Were you asking for my blog? Or saying that I should blog..? This is the only thread I've posted in today T_T

>>2423006
horrible photobashing, you should give the money to a cancer orginization

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This is this afternoon's study. Maybe an hour and a half?

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What do you think about drawings with lines like these, binary is what they're called in sai.
I really fancy them, but are there any cons to using them? The picture is just a quick sketch to show what I mean.

>>2424184
your lines are interesting (maybe try varying weight next time) but the pose is lacking in weight and balance - he looks like he'd fall backwards. Try giving your figures a distinct sense of weight using a plumb line structured around the weight-baring leg.

>>2424291
this is nice. I particularly like the way you defined the rim of the jug using highlights.

>>2424294
I don't know what binary lines are but this looks messy. I don't know what's going on.

I'm pretty sure when SAI talks about binary lines, it means a line that only uses one or two pixels, but look.

It doesn't really matter whether the line that you use is thick or thin. Different artists use them to great effect in different ways depending on their own style.

What is important is focusing on line economy, that is using the minimum number of lines to visually communicate whatever it is that your image is supposed to express.

I don't know if you're trolling or not, but if your audience (see above post) can't understand what it depicted in your image, then the thickness of your line won't help you. It would probably serve you better to try to understand the fundamentals of anatomy and perspective and being economical with line than worry at this point about line weight.

Does that make sense?

>>2424298
>I don't know what's going on.
well yeah, I just scribbled so you could se how the tool looks when shading with it etc.. the content is irrelevant, I'm just asking people regarding the tool, if they like to work with it etc.

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>>2424302
yeah, thanks, I just didn't point out enough how I'm not talking about the content, thanks for clearing it up though
I practice normally, with normal brushes using loomis and or drawing from life etc

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>>2424305
Even looking at your studies, I would still say line quality is a big concern.

"Hairy lines" are a thing that I struggled with myself for a very long time.
A general rule of thumb is that it is better to use thicker brushes for larger shapes and proportions and only to start using smaller brushes for details.

Example of what I mean. Me from now vs me from when I was just starting to really draw.

You don't have to use one brush for everything, and you're not supposed to.

>>2424308
I'm trying to work on the lines yeah, thanks for the feedback

>>2424291
i really like how soft it is

>>2424291
Looking good

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random crap

>>2424364
your women's faces are just awful.

>>2424370
they aren't really? the top left one is kind of strange but I assume that since the others are "better" then it looks that way on purpose

>>2424370
>just awful
please elaborate

>>2423446
Dude, don't use a bristled brush for the highlights on her face, she looks hairy! Go for something with a more grainy look.

but I feel the same as >>2424370
It's uncanny valley between animu and realistic.
exaggerated eyes, chin, It's not appealing, but weird.
I think you did on purpose for whatever reason you've got, but I don't like it's "elven" proportions. especially bottom left one.
It's too realistic to have that proportion. or... i don't know. it just doesn't look nice.

>>2424291
It's a bit off balance. Very nice forms and pleasing to the eye, tho.

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Torso study, need to work on proportions but proportion study is boring...

>>2424400
well that helps more than "just awful" I guess. I struggle with proportion in general so that might be the issue. I'll try to pay closer attention when it comes to facial features.

>>2424014
that bg is tragic and is pretty much same as the hair, start in black and white

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>>2421501
>mountains have clearly horizontal stone layers
>makes all his brush strokes vertical

>>2424458
I have very same problem. facial proportion is pain in the ass. I feel you man.

>>2424397
do you mean how the highlights are done suggest her whole face is hairy, or the highlights themselves look like little patches of hair on an otherwise smooth face?

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First time I really draw with Clip Studio Paint.
How can I make this drawing less boring?
How can I bring more life in the scenery?

>>2421501
brush is way too big.

>>2424489
fundamentals

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oink oink

>>2424601
spooky

>>2423360
literally everything needs improvement, this belongs in beginner thread.
But your best bet is on studying more from reference

>>2423325
spit out my coffee

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I've been a doodler all my life but something came over me yesterday and I decided I wanted to start painting. Bought a tablet and painted this today. Feels pretty good man. Never painted before. Wouldn't know how to go to the next step for this one though and blend the color and stuff.

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I know /ic/ this is the uttter shittiest crap i made.

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r8 sexy bust

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>>2424201
you cant be a beginner in regards to flat color
either you get it or you dont.
you clearly dont.

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>>2422539
Progress. I think I like how it's turning out.

>>2424856
beg thread
>>2424777
beg thread
>>2424489
beg thread

>>2424975
What? That apple is good enough to get critiqued here. That person clearly has some fundamental understanding, enough to be able to make use of some critique beyond what a beginner should be getting. You're such a dick but I like your new name, it's funny.

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anything i should fix before continuing?

>>2422594

loosen the fuck up man. that portrait can be done in one second using a camera. get brushy, get more suggestive instead of so rigid. you will achieve more interesting results in the end. This is just boring, which is a shame since you obviously know how to paint really well.

>>2422697
progress
still feels weird to me

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>>2425372
>>2422697
image didnt load lol