Alternative Art/Anime General

>https://youtu.be/1zxUC4okYfA
is this guy drawing from imagination?

>>2413774
yes

>>2413774
are you asking a stupid question?

>>2413774
That semon demon. This guys is pretty good.

>>2413683
Kyle, do you not update your tumblr anymore?
Also, the lower body looks flat. The lower left leg and the right foot especially.

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Somethin wrong so far ?

>>2414020
That's awful. Just quit art already and go live with your fat-ass anime wifu.

Fuck it.
I'm going to Reddit.

>>2414023
>fat-ass
You gay son?

>>2414023
>calling my waifu fat

rude.

>>2414020
The head and face are not in proportion to the figure.

>>2414047
of girl or guy ?

>>2414020
ONE FOOT IN ONE FOOT OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2414051
Both, more so for the girl.

>>2414084
i dont see it

Sorry, I've been having suicidal thoughts lately because of my constant incontinence.

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>>2414023
not me

>>2414102
Can you please stop going around pretending to be me? its really annoying and you must have no life if this is how you spend your time.

>>2414020
i'm only assuming that they're supposed to be looking at each other, so correct me if i'm wrong, but they're both staring into space. it looks more like they're looking at each others' hair..?

>>2414108
yes they are. i will try to fix that

>>2414068
no one cares

>>2414020
What studies do you do to apply depth into your characters?

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>>2414111
this is really shittily done but maybe this helps?had to draw around the eyelashes for a second because they were making it hard for me to place the pupil for some reason.

>>2414116
Just draw characters a lot.
>>2414134
helps a bit.

>>2413815
is a an obvious yes or obvious no?

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>>2408740
Thanks anon, that was helpful

>>2414099
do it

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>>2414020

>>2414277
Not him, but why did you correct the girl's posture? I think her pigeon toes were intentional.

>>2414277
ee no. you made the head too big and shes going to have high heels. will come in handy for torso tho

>>2414106
"you must have no life" I don't say such clumsy things.

>>2414288
That eye is terrible out of proportion compared to the rest of the image. Even if you are trying to go for anime style.

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>>2414020
hey!! i don't think anything is terribly wrong in particular, though the posing is maybe a little dull. there's nothing really being said with this image, you know what i mean? it's like they are both just standing beside each other holding hands, only looking at each other through the corner of their eyes. if it's supposed to be romantic, you gotta put in some emotion!! it kinda looks like they were paired together for like an activity where you have to hold hands or something-- altho if that's what you were going for, not bad, man.

try and ramp up the acting in the scene and the intimacy between the characters. the way that they're both leaning away from each other makes it sort of look like they're not really interested in one another, and both of their posing is really neutral. i would bring em together if they're really familiar with each other, or emphasize the space between them if they've only been dating for a short while. the arms and hands are great storytelling tools, even something as simple as putting her hand behind her back would change a lot! don't be afraid to really push your gesture when you're in the sketching phase, hammering out all of the anatomy and junk can come after your story is reading well. i drew up some potential ideas for storytelling poses as an example of what i mean. and maybe none of these are the stories you want to tell with your image-- which is fine!! but whatever you ARE trying to say with your drawing should be made more clear, because right now it's just a neutral, static image of two people holding hands, ya feel me? establishing the kind of relationship they have and making it clear to the viewer is important because i have no idea who these characters are and have no real reason to care for them.

i dunno. you draw well enough, so i think it would be interesting to bring some kind of narrative into your drawings to push them to the next level. play around a bit!!

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>>2414288
The character is leaning too far over, the bloody foot is the wrong shape, The eye is wrong and the nose and mouth of the face have a blocky shape.
The gun looks really out of proportion to the rest of the character and the hand is just hovering there like a Liefeld fist.

>>2414020
I agree with:>>2414513

They are just standing there not looking at each other or anything in particular? They don't really feel like a couple. Injecting a story into your drawing will breathe new life into it.

Also, be careful of his pecks, because they seem kinda low or maybe his nipples are too high?

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ms6honeybee

>>2413859
I'll update it sometime I have tons of ahir I've never posted. Tumblr is garbo though

>>2414023
How's that even fat, retard?

The art's not that bad for construction too I don't know why you're all up in arms about anime on the alternative art stylization thread.

>>2414106
YEAH GUYS. It's really insulting when you pretend to be a namefag like me. Brb tho gonna go suck some cocks for $1.

>>2414623
Ton of shit*

why the fuck did you make a new thread for?

>>2414627
im the real nose man and i approve of this.

>>2414106
I hate these fucking copycats.

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>>2412745
Done!

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>>2414647
not me

>>2414623
tru

>>2414020
bez przeklinania mi w filename.Dzieci moga to zobaczyc

>>2414513
will try to make something more interesting next time.

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>>2414598
nice reminds me of metal gear online concept art with those lines and colors

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>>2415100
never cleaned this up but I like this guy

Why is drawing big boobs so addicting? I usually ends up with drawing them bigger than intended at first too. Even though I prefer asses.

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I got a question on stylize faces.

How come, when people go for "cute" characters and add the cheek fat, they have the cheek awfully low and close to the line of the mouth. Where did this come from and how? I see this a lot in animu.

>>2415162
I believe it's what naturally happens when you try to go for neoteny

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>>2415162

>>2415175
>>2415177
Oh nice, thanks for those.

By the way, another thing that I see a lot even outside of animu is that when characters have these cute faces, at times their eyes are very far spaced apart. I'm wondering how this is measured, since most of the time you're finding the relationship between the "3rd eye", but some eyes are shaped as ellipses and to find that 3rd eye seems 'different'.

>>2414623
Wait a sec.
Then where do you primarily upload. Deviant art seems just as bad.

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>>2413447
Drawing is hard especially when you dont have a drawing tablet and your work station is flooded (RIP living in tropical countries)

also My Epson L210 got destroyed by it.
have been practicing on animu, its pretty hard and strange but I should be used to it by now~

Drawing in A4 paper sometimes makes it hard to draw anything other then concepts- (Its just too small, that's what she said~)

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sketch for a painting I'm working on

>>2415668
im a sucker for this kind of fantasy thing-
here have my invisible money and thumbs up

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>>2414743
didn't you come to /fa/ a long time ago looking for how to dress your characters or am i mistaken?

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I thought I'd take a break from studies today to draw whatever I wanted but it only made me feel like shit

>>2416088
Bobcut oni is way too overplayed

>>2416088
I like it despite you being shit so dont feel too good about me asking for blog.

>>2415668
>>2415102

blog, and you can feel good about it.

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what species does this appear to be

>>2414106
>>2414333
>>2414647
>>2414627

Seriously... Stop...

I AM THE REAL ONE

>>2416156
A cat?

>>2416160
>>2416171
not me lol

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how do i make her hand looks convincingly 'leaning and grabbing' the mast? somehow it looks like it's just floating over it now

...also the same case with her feet

>>2416178
Add mast and ship shadow on body parts. Wrap finger around the form.

>>2416178
that looks fuggin nice anon why are you wasting your time on 4chan, go do a commission or somethin

>>2415813
That's me, spent a great deal of time tinkering with Unity and Game Maker and I'm finally going into "production"

>>2416178
Looks good, are you the guy who does the tower girls too?

Wrap the hand around the roundness of the mast, and since your shadows are going horizontally it seems her hand should mostly be in shadow. Also try adding ambient occlusion to the area between her hand and the mast and under her feet.

>>2416125
http://lordslump.tumblr.com

>>2416171
was trying for sheep, dang
i know it'd help if i made the snout slant down but it looks cuter up :c

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>>2416178
FIRMLY GRASP IT
anyway here is my attempt, the pose is kinda weird because she wouldn't really be leaning, only holding the mast, in which case it's bigger than her hand so it's gonna look weird anyways. I'd say just do whatever you want it'll look ok because it's a pretty good drawing, cheers

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>>2416284
Maybe having hooves would be better to get the point across? Lower the ear position too and bring it closer to the eyes like a real sheep. But imo, the downwards snoot of a sheep is pretty essential in understanding it's a sheep lol. It could still look cute, try experimenting with it more or maybe don't make it as long as a sheep's really would be. I like the hair design, it's fun.

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Slowly adding color to this. I'm not sure how to go about coloring stuff. I'm not even sure I should post at this stage.

>>2416178
That's some neat coloring skills.

>>2416205
>>2416253
>>2416287
ok, i will try that
thanks for the inputs anons

>>2416178
It looks like you almost triggered me. But you remembered, and for that, im grapeful

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Trying to get better at composition and setting up a scene.

>>2416178
Nice colors.
Careful of the tangent of the helmet with the beam behind her.
Background and character needs more curves (its all too straight and rigid). Maybe also add seagulls for more interest.

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>>2416503
Oops

>>2416284
this tbqh
also try adding that cute little buckteeth

>>2416518
shit, forgot to quote >>2416315

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I'm warming up to sketching with digi, just need more mileage

>>2416564
Are you still just copying?
If so you should start drawing your own stuff too man.

>>2416566
>copying
Yea, I took a break for about a month, and I'm still getting used to digital sketching - I always have an excuse, but I'm getting some momentum back now.

Maybe I'll do an "Imagination March"

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Should I even try coloring this or improve the lineart more?

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how's the face?

>>2416612
its really cute :)
but work more on eyes. They sorta lack in comparision to the mouth.

>>2416611
The lineart is too busy and there is no variation in line weight so all the shapes blend together. I had no idea what I was looking at until I stared at it for several seconds. Try going over the lines with a new layer and use thicker lines for foreground objects and thinner lines for background and details.

>>2416612
i feel the eyes should be slightly more up, it seems like someone squished her features together

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looking for feedback be4 polishing

>>2416612
I NEVER GET THE BETA KEY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2416812
give me something to look at, my eyes are drawn to the big space of nothing inbetween the rocks. Put a cool sand creature or something be creative.

>>2416092
It is?? Where can I find more of them? This news pleases me.

>>2416125
Did nosebro just (underhandedly) compliment me? I don't know how to feel about this.

plasticiv.com

>>2416872
youre not shit, you just don't realize when you're 5 px off. You can feel a little good actually.

>>2414743
do you have a blog?

>>2416958
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/

>>2416970
ayyy

>>2416612
you really need to learn color theory instead of using prepared palettes. try something new for once- different light color, exposure, value compositions etc

>>2414541
Hahah imagine being the guy who had to color Liefeld's shit. You'd be constantly frustrated with polishing his turds.

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>>2416970
HUE

>>2416178
slight O-legs hersh :3

>>2416576
I like the softness and colors in this. Hope to see more.

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how am i going?

Started yeasteday with studies on anatomy

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any input?

>>2417297
would fuck

>>2417297
her skull is super long, even if you account for hair fluff

>>2417319
kk thx, I've resized the front and the hair so it's less long

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another angel I guess, still early in progress. do the wings feel attached?

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>>2417269
holy shit youre like a copy of me.

Also beg thread.

>>2417368
lol both my tables are so off holy shit how did i not see that

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>>2417362
hes in a forest i guess

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Pretty fast painting w/o ref so its a bit deformed. How is it overall though?

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>>2417546
I don't have the book which I copied it from but here's my drawing.

The human body is based on curves, see the curved lines drawn to the right? You can paint quite good, just study the human body.

>>2417546
its great to see youre getting closer to 1:1 proportions with 0 perspective, however, you still completely ignore the natural flow of elements and asymmetry in the human body. Take the side view for example. The neck actually bends forward the torso actually leans back the first leg is top heavy and the second leg is back heavy. This creates balance through imbalance.

Theres also what i call the "show less know more", by that I mean you should show less of certain features to show you know more, an example of this is your lineweight accross the drawing. It is much too thick in many areas ( the abs being the most obvious area.)

Finally,

ONE FOOT IN ONE FOOT OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2417546
i recommend vilppu's "feeling the form" videos on gesture drawing.
>youtube.

>>2417368
really bro lol, when did you start this hell route?

can someone explain me this one foot in one foot out meme?

What's wrong with it?

>>2418064
if youre referring to the horns, its because it allows me to try horns in perspective with having to setup a proper head so its fun.
>>2418065
It's just so generic and cliche and easy, and a lot of (bad) artists fall into this trope and always draw that pose. So im bringing peoples attention since people just dont realize that they do it.

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fuck lifeeeeeeee

>>2417297
just.. don't mirror ok? the yes, the arms,everything. it's not going to kill you if you spend another hour drawing them.

Also the hair is just a wreck. You really gotta find some reference on how hair works and looks.

That said it's good. Just don't be lazy and fix the hair.

>>2418086
you forgot your chromatic aberration kr0n

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still gotta do the buildings n shit on the right side, but how's it lookin so far otherwise?

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>>2418067
dude. there are only so many variations on feet when drawing a normal human in a forward standing pose. that's why it's generic. because it is a real thing that real people do. rein your autism in and let it go.

>>2416319
The girl is totally lost in the big rat in the thumbnail.

Think about where you want the viewer to look and fix your values accordingly. I'd make her a lot brighter

>>2418119
digging it

>>2418131
Exactly it's like complaining about 3/4 view heads.

Sure a bad artist will draw nothing but 3/4 girl heads facing the left but that doesn't mean a good artist has to be constantly contriving weird angles to view heads from. Some things just werk

>>2418119
Really nice, the buildings have a lot of character.
I'm not sure if this is intentional, but the sky seems a little off to me. At the top of the picture it's brighter than towards the horizon. It should be the other way round, with atmosphere and everything.

>>2418119
I love pieces like this, your palette's really easy on the eyes too.

>>2418131
literally not a single one of those is the front and out.

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What's the best way to practice settings? Draw and paint from reference? Find a real-world equivalent of most of the elements and draw it till I understand it?

And after that, is painting the backgrounds just a matter of learning textures?

(Also, how's the girl?)

>>2418154
I see plenty of feet where one is pointing forward and the other faces an outward direction, and it matches up to what I've seen when you police other people's art. if you suddenly have some pedantic definition that only you understand, then I, and everyone else, should care even less when you bitch at others to conform to your arbitrary preferences.

>>2418173
>how's the girl?

Would take out to a 5 star restaurant/10, wanna see the finished version too

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>>2415668
>>2416125
http://maricu-mana.deviantart.com/gallery/
http://maricu.tumblr.com/

I will have to change the design of the dragon head, at the moment it looks too much like a pokemon.

>>2418204
No shit it's an almost litteral copy of dragonair and world of warcraft blood elves but drawn in tumblr tier. You get a 4/10 for trying.

>>2418271
I mean dratini

>>2418271
not tumblr tier, I'm more a deviantart kind of person. I will see what I can fix about the dragon.

>>2416571
Not that anon but I can tell you how frustrating the difference between my sketchbook and my digital stuff are.
I learn to use my entire arm to draw, even on a teensy sketchbook, but then I can't on a tablet because the Wacom's surface grips my skin like nothing else. I can't even draw digital for long because of that, my wrist just hurts after 30 mins

>>2418333
I've been working really hard recently and I'm actually getting worried about my arm from drawing digitally.

I'm trying to exercise at least my arms and back with weights every day.

>>2418139
>>2418153
>>2418146
thank you! I didn't know that about the sky, I'll change that. thanks for the tip.

>>2418191
the pedantic is it goes in 0 perspective because you dont want to draw the feet in anything else than perfect front or side perspective.
>>2418173

Nice.

>>2418140
>Sure a bad artist will draw nothing but 3/4 girl heads facing the left
tfw i do this all the time

>>2418263
Fucking badass, mate. Bolg?

>>2418333
I use a sock with two holes in it, it helps a lot to move smoothly over the surface. A glove with some fingers cut off would work too.

>>2418342
I like the direction you're headed in with those waves. What brush are you using?

>>2417584
Ty bro , i knew you would comment on 1foot in 1 out kek

>>2417579
tnx , i guess i should stop being a fag and use reference

>>2417586
will check him out

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>>2418119
updated

>>2414513
b-blog?
I really like how dynamic your characters look.

>>2418806
the stock paint tool sai crayon brush.

>>2418927
I like your color choices

>>2418927
very nice.
i really want to draw man-made environments at least this well. for whatever reason designing them is incredibly difficult for me. did you use many references?

>>2419297
>>2419251
Thank you! I looked at a couple of urban/suburban photo blogs (like japanesesuburbia.tumblr.com) for some stuff, but a lot of it was off the top of my head.

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>>2416315
>>2416518
this read more sheepish?
didn't move the ear cause sheep silhouettes put the ear near the top rear of the the head when viewed from the side, also i don't think sheep have buckteeth (even tho it'd be really cute some people already think it reads like a rabbit so i'm trying to edge away from that)

probably gonna give her socks and some wristguards and have lil sheep like cuffs of fur at the ends of them

>>2418766
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=304834

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just noticed i cant render my anime shit, well, fuck.

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trying to design some fairy dragon things... might color them with watercolor.

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thoughts?.

>>2419507
cool brah

>>2419486
I like this, its weird but you got potential, keep experimenting/practicing

>>2413683
H I G H T E S T

>>2414288
Work on eyes more. Also her left foot is uhh..squished

>>2419507
Very nice, although I wonder how those extra body parts can help the creature survive in the wild :)

>>2419526
it's cool. personally i like the background color in contrast with the other colors. some of the lines are a bit messy, particularly on her leg. but it's good.

>>2419545
will rework the legs, thanks for thoughts. also what about the background colours is better than the focal point colours? it took me ages deciding on that combination.

>>2419532
Thanks m8, i'll try something with a more natural flow of mine next im and see if i get something better

>>2419560
it's something about warm/cool combination i think

>>2416160
NO I'M SPARTACUS

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went ahead and touched up this piece

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>>2419628
not me

>>2416319
i love your lines. looks like you're just using a hard round?

>>2419560
oh, no, i meant to say i like *how* the background contrasts with the foreground colors

How do I get into stylization? I only draw realistic figures

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Makes me wonder how much time Murata takes to draw her, the design isn't that hard but took way more time than expected.

>>2419773
you'll need to study different styles in the same way you study real life.
while learning more about different approaches on style you will slowly be able to find your own.

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>>2419851
Shading.

>>2419851
>>2420034
>dominatrix in the middle of a quiet street

>>2419851
>>2420034
fucking stupid

but seriously, terrible composition

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>>2414288
That gun is very badly drawn, it's not very accurate. I almost feel like you took reference of the SVD and then got bored of looking at it. You see where you made the guy holding the grip? You made the receiver way too long, as if to hide the butt stock of the gun. (see reference, where he is holding the grip.) The mag is out of perspective and you kinda just slapped the barrel and iron sights on there without thinking fully of the ref. As others have said, fix the person himself. Your coloring is going somewhere, that's good but, you need to learn basic anatomy outside of animu because your person's weight is leaning like he's gonna fall on his face soon.

why is this thread so dead

>>2420294
Because it's anime and doesn't deserve anyone's attention.

>>2420605
here's a (You)

>>2420294
ic is too busy doing dumbshit rather than painting.

>>2420294
Because some asshat made the new thread before the old one hit bump limit

>>2419772
ohh, wait, actually upon re-reading your original post, that makes total sense.
sorry i am retarded.

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>>2419429
Tail def helps, was thinking something like this tho

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>>2413447
I really need to start practicing coloring stuff soon.

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I've gotten upset and tired tonight so I'm going to try to fix it and possibly even add values when I wake up tomorrow

>>2419526
My new phone pape/10
Dope as fuck mang

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>>2417421
nvm fuck forests
>>2419429
I second the tail helping, and I think wrist cuffs are a good idea too. I really dig shapes of the face hair and body, but the roller skates are really boring

>>2421740
does this read as him leaning forward?

>>2421521
and hands

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can I get some tips please? I spent about 25 minutes on this (yes that's how new and bad I am)

I'm honestly trying my best

>>2418772
I tried that anon and that's not the issue.
Put the side of your right hand onto the palm of your left hand and make a circular motion, see that bit of muscle that doesn't move and hinders the motion? It's amplified multiple times over on the wacom surface for some reason, I'm literally rubbing my hand against shit and no material grips me like that other than ceramics.
It's not like I've got loads of skin hanging off either, I'm 45Kg

>>2421796
Vilppu and Hogarth's Drawing Dynamic Hands.
Amongst many others

>>2419429
still waiting for that blog, senpai

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>>2421796

>>2421796
you need the beginner thread friend

>>2421742
Oh shit, didn't even realize of how big of a mess they were in that pic, thanks mang.

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In anime, how does one define race? Is race omitted in anime altogether (eg. the Japanese ship girls in Kancolle have same/simialr facial features to German ships and American Iowa) or is there a way to define race in anime aside from just skin tone?

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Commission n stuff

>>2421960
You should look into manga instead. Anime is cheap and most of the time its art is made specifically to be drawn easily and quickly, hence the large amounts of sameface.

The same can be applied towards manga (especially weekly series) but some artists do go out of their way to draw different ethnicities like Naoki Urasawa, Atsushi Kaneko and Tomoko Ninomiya.

>>2421978
How much does the commissioner pay you for that?

>>2422016
about 90, why?

>>2421883
beg thread
>>2421751
>>2421740
>>2420086
one foot in one foot our REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>2418204

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>>2422365
>That belly button

>>2422367
Oh fuck sorry, I never know how I should draw them.

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Thoughts? Unfinished drawing.

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am i turning into a fag for sketching dis

>>2422513
Your rendering is amaz but some times you fuck up hard in anatomy/proportions, take some time to comparise the left and right arm and if they lenght is right(too short..) the katana kinds looks out of perspective/ dont fit with the tsuka(handle in english mayb)

>>2422365
that trans boy doe

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colored dragons. thoughts?

>>2422586
i still like you lienel.

>>2422586
wow i'm not sure how i didn't notice the length difference. thanks

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>>2421338
i super appreciate it but decided to stick with the current face for simplicity of forms and overall legibility

>>2421740
you're right actually, i should go back an put a bit more details/flourish into the skates, they feel really barren now that you've pointed it out

>>2421825
patience is a virtue but i guess i'll post the kinda-not-really-finished version

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>>2422606
I think you could've gotten a lot more imaginative with the colors.

Here's a Collared Lizard, just to example how far out there you can get without even escaping reality.

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>>2422752

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>>2422755
not a lizard but i think it's relevant

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Yooo

>>2422752
yeah I see what you mean. I only have like 3 copics so I was kinda limited to begin with, but I should really look at nature more for my color palettes. Thanks!

>>2422610
thanks nose bruv
>>2422767
post it later, i liked

>>2419628
I AM SPARTACUS

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little pause on all the studies

Critique?

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>>2422829
nice, the environments from the deadly sins are god tier. particularly the sense of scale. keep it up.

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>>2419544
Real animals have waddly bits and horny bits as well. I agree though that this creatures look too complicated/the design is too cluttered.

>>2422888
..stick to studies
everything looks really flat and its way to saturated, your lines look weird (could be resolution). Also her crotch looks really strange.

Do some life drawings

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is she kawaii desu?

>>2422995
She's front lighting, I only know that for sure.
It's not bad, but a different light point would give this image more depth, I think.

>>2422995
yes

>>2422744
What rules do you follow when you're making finished lines? Are there any particular artist's line work you reference?
Any tips?

>>2422995
She looks like she has Down syndrome

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>>2421960
This is an interesting question. You just have to explore what works and what doesn't. Personally, I like to start out thinking of what defines race like this:
>skull structure
>skin tone
>size/shape/placement of features
Oddly enough, anime discards pretty much all of this. We see asian characters as white over here and the line between asian and white characters is remarkably small in anime.

However, you can still make a character look a specific race if you tap into people's reference pools. Obviously, if you give a character dreads and very dark skin, people will think the character is black, for example. If you put a slick, black haired person in a school outfit, people will assume the character is Asian. This works, but it limits how far you can actually push things. Once you leave that pool of reference (like say you wanted to give a black girl character straightened hair that's purple or something) the character begins to look ambiguous. They would just be a brown girl.

>>2423140
no, she doesn't

>>2423154
yes, she does

>>2422031
Never tell people how much someone is paying for a private commission, they're the competition

>>2423130
when depth is important avoid tangents, when it can be flattened for style purposes use tangents
avoid excess lines, implied lines are your friends
ultimately go with what feels right

i really like the entirety of hiroyuki imaishi's work and onta/doxy's lines. i remember reading something onta said a long time ago about line economy in that "every line should be doing more than one thing", it's not right 100% of the time but a good idea to keep in your head

>>2423387
wage transparency benefits those getting paid the money

>>2423400
How so?

>>2423411
the implication >>2423387 is making is that the online private art commission industry (for lack of a better term) competition is based around the price you charge per piece and not the skill and/or style with which you can execute such pieces (as well as your name recognition)

going "oh, i charged $90 for this piece" isn't gonna cause you to get undercut by other artists charging only $80 per piece, you almost certainly got that commission because the commissioner likes the way you draw, keyword: you.
sure, you might have copycats who do cheaper commissions than you, but virtually all of them will be eternally behind you skill/style wise because they're just aping what you already did, not to mention that if you're at the level of notoriety that this is actually happening you most likely have more commission requests than you know what to deal with (and also probably able to charge a rate that doesn't get insanely low once you divide it by the actual amount of hours you work each piece)

and this isn't even getting into how you should avoid the crab in a barrel mentality in regards to how much other artists can charge per piece. good rule of thumb: they shouldn't be getting paid less, you should be getting paid more. i know you've probably run into a few assholes who complain about how much someone charges for a commission like $100 is wayyyy too much and they're jus a greedy bastard, but if they actually saw how much people in say the comics industry get paid per piece they'd realize that person is giving them an insanely cheap price, especially if they knew how criminally underpaid people in the comics industry are. most people usually understand when you break down how many hours it takes you per piece and they realize how low that per hour price comes out to be tho.

tl;dr unless you're in the business of fuckin people outta money, being transparent about how much you charge and why will get you paid more, or at least more people willing to pay.

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>>2422829
Alright, done I guess.

>>2422892
Yeah, Nakaba's landscapes are really great, inspiring as fuck.

>>2423647
you're drawing digital, just make a new layer for ever major change you wanna test out, if you don't like it, poof, delete the layer

>>2423388
>hiroyuki imaishi
Thanks anon. Lines has always been something I struggled with. Don't really know any techniques associated with making line art.

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>>2423651
I guess it's not really that kind of mistakes.. its just like if i dont let thing flow like having some natural brushstrokes and painting naturally

>Anon-kun my love is like hydraulic press

I think i gotta change haircut. guve her something tomboy-ish or something.

>>2423536
nice sense of scale.

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>>2423666
For fucks sake, the picture

>>2423647
The anatomy is all over the place. Panty is weirdly done, looks like the top felt and you can see the interior. head isn't big enough.

>>2423682
Yea lots of mistakes, i wast really thinking when i draw that, i have kind of a hard time when trying to get simple anime and antomy together, simplifying stuff and all that shit.

How do you do that cool effect where the eye lashes kind of show through the hair that's over it? I tried lowering the opacity of a layer that only had that color of hair, but now the shadow color from my pallet looks wrong over it. How can I get the color right? Or is there an alternate way of getting the effect?

>>2423698
What you're asking seems so obvious i feel like I didn't understand right, show an example.

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>>2423702
Not on my main computer right now, so I have nothing of my own work, but googling around, something like this is close to the effect I'm going for. I'm a bit new to digital art, is my issue, I think.

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Didnt fuck up the anatomy this time, i guess

>>2423744
youre samefacing lienel!

>>2423749
am i? i'll try to make a completly different face next

>>2423744
>That body

Painwheel is that you?

>>2422762
2edgy4me

>>2423717
Just manually erase some of the lineart of the eyelash with a low-opacity eraser so that it isn't at full opacity.

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Here's a lil graphic runnin man

>>2424415
nyoom

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The arm in her pocket has me stumped

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Would you an industrial robot?

>>2417564
got a blog?

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brawling artists

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>>2424511
oink oink capitalism

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>>2418173
Finished this. Got two questions for you, /ic/.

1. How's the girl?
2. What did I mess up and how can I make it better?

>>2424697
Breasts are lacking shape for the parts not hidden by the clothes, two tiny lines really isn't enough.

>>2424697
Not bad, but she looks flat. Try to think where the light comes from and shade accordingly. Her legs, her chest, shoulder... really look flat to me.
But the anatomy seems fine. Good work.

>>2424720
>>2424722
Hey, thanks guys. Gonna work on rendering according to light, I know that's something I've been putting off in favor of boring animu portraits.

asking here so I don't open a new thread

do any anons know the name of the asian (possibly chinese) artist who draws with a sort of pentel brush and drew several povs of his workspace?

thanks!

>>2424511
>>2424526
i like these looks like something i'd see in the economist or something
>>2424697
proportions and anatomy are pretty fucked. I think you just ended up warping the perspective too much
-tiny head
-tiny ribcage
-basically no fat or muscle around her waist, you just stuck some legs to the bottom of her torso
-her stance doesnt have any weight to it. It looks like she's supposed to be leaning on her right arm, but it doesnt feel like that at all when the angle of her shoulders and waist are parallel
keep working tho you'll learn to see these kinds of things. I did a sloppy quick over draw hope it helps.
>>2424733
kim jung qi? hes korean tho

>>2424782
well shit the over draw I did got corrupted

>>2424426
It looks weird because her hand is only halfway in the pocket. It's an unnatural pose is what I'm trying to say.

You should make the pocket bigger, and have the whole hand in it.

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>>2424782
>>2424785
drew it again real quick skimped on the hands

>>2424836
ARe you serious?
Her forearms, hands, calves and feet all look like sausages lol

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sorry no resize

anyhting wrong so far? im a kind of newfag at drawing especially on computer

>>2423154
yes she does

>>2424865
?? its a rough sketch to show to proportion errors not a finished drawing

>>2424891
hes salty i approve of the fix tho. original picture is still good.

>>2424782
>kim jung qi

yeah it was him, thanks!

>>2416612
Absolutely cute.

>>2424865
he fixed your perspective and made it better, please kys

>>2424836
Ooh, I see. Yeah, I definitely skipped a few parts, and I should've gone with that foot angle. I got a lot to learn.

Thanks, Anon.

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>>2424865
>>2424917
>>2425038
Every time I post here, this happens. I really need to start namefagging if I post art.

To the guy who did a rough redline, thanks a ton. I needed that badly--I've been blundering around on my own for several years after my favorite art forum died, haven't had a real critique like this in a long time.

>>2425126
This is actually me. Apologies for the confusion. Have a squid.

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>>2424801
Unfortunately I finished if before I read your crit, but next time I'll keep that in mind, thank you!
I turd polished it for ages when I should have just started again. Face got a bit too tumblr.

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>>2425138
ooh ooh can we suggest names?
how about Big Brow?

>>2425166
>nose sferatu
kek, i like it

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>tfw you know the hand is off, but you try to ignore it

>>2425370
blog? are you lienel?

Is there any actual good tutorials on how capture the design of animu/mango style? Or is it basically, find a style and try to mimic it in your own way?

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>>2425138
no prob, assumed that other guy was someone else any ways.

>>2425160
This is garbage.
Fuck you.

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>>2413447
Really really new to anatomy but I'm giving it my all. Did this today, I'll color tomorrow because I spent half of my day lining this. I'll sketch up a few poses before I go to bed.

Pic related is a detective in the future taken place in Tokyo where drug crime has sky rocketed for whatever reason, inspiration from all your favorite detective vice stories. Keeps it old school with her snub nose revolver.

>>2425422
Your crit is garbage, fuck you too buddy.

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>>2425382
T-thats not me

>>2425563
hands too small and elbows are kind of strange,.face could use a bit more curvature but if thats your stylistic choice then I guess its fine.

>>2425410
yeah pretty much that's it

ded

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so apparently there are two stylization threads being up right now

which one is the real one? this thread looks newer but it's also deader

>>2427259
bump limit was reached on this one and it's on page 6 while the other one is just before bump limit and on page 2, you take a guess.

This is kinda art

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHx7EGwSEcA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGx-d3gJCfg