Cringe thread

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>>2261434
>that delusion
It's insane the straws that people are willing to grasp at in order to NOT improve.

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>>2261429

>>2261493
how the fuck is that even possible, how do you go from 2008 to 2014?!

>>2261434
Why ask her to stop making fanart?
She was overreacting, yes but all of yous would feel hurt if someone told you to stop enjoying the hobbies you are passionate about, because of some made up standard of maturity.

>>2261434
To be fair, she doesn't even draw fanart. I just checked out her tumblr, it's literally only photocopies. Fanart implies an original drawing / composition / illustration, based on an existing intellectual property. Not a 1:1 copy of some tv show or movie promo shot. Fanart is many steps above what she does.

>>2261517
People have called her out on that. She says she is just using a reference and everyone does it.

>>2261517
I knew there had to be some larger context to this. Now I know which side to fall on.

>>2261519
Yes everyone uses references, but not everyone makes all their art a photocopy of a photo. What exactly is the point of doing that? There is already a photo! Yeah if you are doing some kind of study, but pages upon pages of these photocopies with no original work at all?! Whatever floats their boat I guess.

>>2261557
It's probably her crutch. She can't draw anything without directly copying photo references. So she does that to make herself feel good.

She'd probably call you a gatekeeper or some bullshit like that.

>>2261434
Was she trying to force an insult that is actually a sound cultural basis? Shouldn't you shame people for obsession, like geeks and passion.

>>2261562
Apart from the horrible pseudo animu style and the obvious, what else is cringy about it? Are those from a series or that?

>>2261572
Maybe it's me it just looks like the guy's anatomy is just totally out of proportion everywhere. His spine/ribcage looks like it's in the wrong place, his eyes are way too high up on his face. Stuff like that. Guess it's not cringey? Fff

>>2261562
aside from the premise whats cringey about this?

disregard my post here >>2261578
just read>>2261576

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>>2261578
I find the whole "ironically drawing characters to be ugly" tumblr art trend cringey. This is a less cringey example of it, but it still fits into that category.

>>2261493
She should have stayed in 2008...

>>2261591
the concept is cringey, but the art doesnt usually even look that bad. If they could keep a secret I honestly wouldnt have cared about that trend tbh

>>2261591

Eh, it's not ironic. It's "muh diversity" tumblr feminists that hates the portrayal of thin and attractive women.

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>>2261591
>>2261615

>>2261591

Are you serious? What exactly is wrong with drawing realistic characters? Not everyone is attractive as I'm sure most of you know from first hand experience, so what's wrong with creating characters that are a little doughy or aren't white...

>>2261646
the problem is that is very forced

>>2261646

> thinks fat and ugly equals "realistic"

tumblr feminist spotted

>>2261653
Have you been to America? For the most part it is realistic.

>>2261653
this.

>>2261646
He's talking about artists redrawing established characters, like this >>2261635 MHA art.

>>2261635
but thats just shitty art, there is no appeal to looking at this. Even if they ugly bitches she can still look kickin as hell

>>2261489

I feel like this was drawn by someone who's never seen anime before, but had it described to them

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>>2261695
immediately thought of pic related, like holy shit

>>2261810
Some great stuff on that album.

>>2261815
I only ever heard the sample song

>>2261818
>that fucking sample song on every Windows 7 computer

Fucking groovy tbh

>>2261820
Agreed

>>2261500

Through passage of time?

>>2261653
I'm pretty sure you're not a female and you don't have to deal with fucked up standards. This girl isn't fat at all. But anyway, you're unable to go beyond >hurr durr tumblr spotted.

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>>2261838

>Mom, I posted it again!

>>2261591
>>2261635
Brb im going to go puke.

>>2261867
I'm impressed you were able to hold it down long enough to type up that post.

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My friend is getting frustrated with life-drawing and painting. We sit down for lunch one day and he starts talking about aforementioned frustration. Most of the conversation I can agree with, but then he says,
>I'm having trouble deciding between my style and drawing what I see. I mean, I want to improve my drawing skill, but I also want to improve my style.
Ok, anon, may I see your 'style'?
>Sure! Here's my sketchbook.
-it's all that FUCKING STEVEN UNIVERSE MEME STYLE-
"Y-you too"

Pic related
"Self portrait and environment study"

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>>2261894
Fuck you James, don't you know I'm on fucking /ic/ too. My style is based off the Steven Universe art style but I plan to become more unique you faggot.
>meme style
fuck off man I'll have a job way before you do

>>2262085
hey man im not james im just lurking but holy shit your "style" is honestly the worst shit ive ever seen
its not even "uniqueness" being the problem its just that its shit

>>2262085
>>2262088
Lel

>>2262085
kek.

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>>2262088
Oh fuck off. Not him but anyone with eyes can see that that's a young kids work. I'm sure you drew (or still draw) at that level at one point or another. If not, worse.

The posts are probably bait anyway.

>>2262101
i personally know people in their 20's who draw like that, but i guess you're right

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>>2262101
Nah, we're actually talking about someone who's in their mid 20s going to art school.

Yeah.

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>>2262115
Could be worse, he could be 28 with an art degree and still draw like this

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>>2261635
the one on the right is literally a Froppy rip off

>>2262212
anon...

>>2262212
They're all boku no hero characters dude. The artist made them more "inclusive"

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>>2262224
What the fuck? So the others are supposed to be Uraraka, Momo and Mina?

>>2261838

American in 1st world syndrome.

I wonder what will happen to these fat girls who try to justify their fatness 20 years from now body wise.

It's not natural to be fat. If you are over 200 pounds you better be 8 feet tall or a body builder.

>>2262212
I'll give you credit for being able to successfully identify at least one of the characters.

>>2261591
I think you're looking for something that isn't really there. Good character design (which the pic is not a great example of) is more complicated than just going "imma make her ironically ugly lol"

The most important thing is to have a compelling and interesting character and often that's better achieved with a design that strives away from "symmetric and beautiful" look, which is pretty dull. I'm not even a tumblr goer but my reference folders are jam fuckin packed with photos of people with quirky faces, because they make the best inspiration for character design.

>>2262442
Beautiful doesn't necessarily equate to perfect.
Freckles or glasses are 2 good examples, they're flaws but many people find them adorable.

I do understand what you're saying, but for the most part as a focal point of the inage, unless you're trying to get a certain point across, you want a good looking and attractive person.

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>>2261517
She is insane.

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>>2261653
>thinks fat and ugly equals "realistic"
this.
As a person from europe (inb4 brown people invading your country) it blows my mind how amerifats conside "fat" is NATURAL BODY.
Personally i havent even seen that many fat people in my life. And some fat americans i see on photos or "Comicbook conventions" are on fatness level i never seen in reality.

Its ok if you want to shit in your country but dont force the rest of this world accept your delusions.
>mfw europe is faraway from USA
>mfw feels comfy

>>2261493
her art didn't get worse, she just got fatter, all the art is clearly self portraits of sorts

>>2262790
On average I'd say Americans weigh more, but you really don't see that many grossly obese folk rolling around.
I'm in the tech field and there's far more malnourished guys than obese guys.

>>2261493
>>2261500

I suppose this is proof that if you're not studying, practice for the sake of practice (not thinking about the concepts and principles behind what you're doing) won't get you anywhere.

After 10 years of conscientious studying she'd be making good shit I'm sure.

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>>2261894
this isnt steven universe at all lmao

it's closer to adventure time with the whacky cartoony limbs and everything but in at's defense it makes for smoother animation

>>2262826
addendum

that dude should stick to backgrounds it seems to be his strongest point

>>2261429
>fart lover fucker
Is there context to this? Who is artist being mocked? (I know Dobson isn't black)

>>2262839
Animatedjames the first nigger sperg I've ever heard of.

>>2262085
James is right nigga, you suck and are a bandwaggoner.

>>2262790
Mexico is the second fattest country in the world and even here you don't see hamplanets or landwhales unless they're actually sick.

We talking about Tumblr Artist eh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7nPXHp9aE

>>2262344
I don't.
Thats like being able to identify Spongebob or Mario. You have to try really, REALLY fucking hard to mess that up

>>2261511
She may have asked herself that and made it anonymous so it would look like someone asked instead of her. Doing it for attention

>>2262790
I live in Europe and people have definitely gotten fatter over years. Not just more landwhales but average girls are pudgier now than they used to be 15 years ago. Also brown people are invading.

>>2262790
Jesus Christ this is so ugly

I guess this question belongs here:

Why do nogs leave their pen/pencil/etc in frame when taking a picture of their work

>>2263011
I always assumed it was to show the scale of their drawing.

Probably also to make it look artsy somehow.

>>2261635
>tumblr

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>>2263034
yes tumblr

>>2261695
really good

>>2263062
>not a single white

Das racist mane.

>>2263062
They look like Doug characters

don't cringe near me man

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>>2263096
my first impression was Dobson's characters. they always have that... weird european cartoon-look. and with dots for eyes.

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>>2263093
>>not a single white
>Das racist mane.
Like i said previously - even if tumblr dont draw white people...I mean look at them.
These are just average WHITE GIRLS. but bucket filled with brown color.
Here i "whitewashed" them. Literally no difference.
its like that tumblrina didnt even know which races she was drawing exactly and stupidly mindlessly splatted brown colors everywhere.
I think this is actual racism.
They dont even care about subject, about actually drawing people of color and doing research about their ethnic details.
YAY JUST FILL IT BROWN AND YOU ARE SOCIAL JUSTICE WURRIRU! xD

>>2263093

Reminds me of the black tumblr artists who only draw black characters and most of them all have the same face cause 'muh diversity'. They draw white people like they're albino.

>>2263106
What's weird about "European Cartoons"? I'd prefer Bande Desinée over American comics.

>>2261489
is this katy coope's work?

>>2263523
dank namedrop /b/ro

>>2261489
Isn't this made by Ken Penders or something?

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Word Up! Fat women are great, so is MOTHER RUSSIA and dags!

Wanna piss off tumblrinas? Just draw Rose Quartz from Steven Universe with a thin figure. You know what I'm talking about.

>>2263884
that was the dumbest fucking thing

>>2263884
>Wanna piss off tumblrinas? Just draw Rose Quartz from Steven Universe with a thin figure
yet every time people talk about how fat she is, tumblrtards throw argument "B-BUT SHE WAS PREGNANT. SHE ACTUALLY SLIM. SHE WAS PREGNANT WHEN THEY WERE SHOWING HER IN THAT EPISODE"

>>2261429
is that from animated james?

>>2262790
Europoors are triggered.

>>2261500
In 2008 she copied a picture, the rest is just different shades of muh style

>>2263933
Why would tumblr want her to be thin?

>>2264135
because fat people are gross

>>2262146
Are you being serious?

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>>2264480
I wish I was joking

She blames art snobs for her work getting rejected from galleries

>>2261838
>I'm pretty sure you're not a female and you don't have to deal with fucked up standards
I hope you are not actually implying there are no fucked up standards for men as well, because it sure seems like you are.

Men just don't make their entire gender into a victim and have to simply deal with it.

>>2261656
What part of America? Texas? A local Walmart?

>>2264667
>Texas
as a Texan I resent this.
I've spent most my life in Texas, come up north for a job and these niggers are way fatter than everyone (with a few exceptions) in Texas.

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>>2263112
>Keep all the weird colored hair
>Change the blonde

>>2262785
She definitely is delusional.

>>2263062
I get that they're all black, but shit, making the southern farm girl black, unless you're making an statement about stereotypes like white boy trying to act gangsta or actually being a hood boy (which here they aren't, they're just slapping a single race to a cast who don't have a defined one) is just a desperate attempt to be held as an herald of inclusivity (and ironically, being uninclusive to any other race that's not black, playing by their OWN rules)

>>2263106
I thought the same, but man that's harsh, european comics have consistency and have a good understanding of form perspective, color, composition, anatomy... I could go on and on, but my point is, european comics tend to be good, Dobson is a shit thing to compare them to (Plus there's a shittons of styles just like in the rest of the world)

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>>2262146
I always get a fucking laugh when you can tell they can't draw hands by hiding them behind their back or in their pockets.

>>2265052

She's fucked if someone takes away her references.

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>>2264539
this is beyond cringe

>>2262785
I'm laughing so hard she decided to delete that post ....and disabled the ask function on her blog.

I guess life is so rough and tough when people don't take kindly to your huge ego.

>>2265052

To be fair she's got some damn good rendering skills, it's just a shame she's being a human photocopier instead of actually drawing cool stuff.

>>2264539
SAUCE
SAUCE
SAUCE
SAUCE
SAUCE
SAUCE
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>>2265070
>I thought the same, but man that's harsh, european comics have consistency and have a good understanding of form perspective, color, composition, anatomy
are you are like...literally retarded?
i said NOTHING bad about european cartoons. only the fact that some of them has that "nose" and "dot-eyes" that made me think of european cartoons.
Yes you are retarded because i mostly prefer european comics over american ones.

Holy shit you made me mad. i want to kill you and piss into your empty eyeholes.

>>2265283
>filename
Jesus anon, come on.

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>>2265289
woops, sorry

>>2265288
>are you are like...literally retarded?
Not him, but you put Dobson and something else in the same sentence, saying they even look similar in some aspects. People are bound to take that as an insult.

>>2262826
I thought it was a Gravity Falls type thing.

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Hello

>>2265399
My favorite, I mean, even if you know jackshit about proportions, how can you draw something like this and not realize something's wrong?

>>2262827
Now that's bait if I ever saw one

>>2265443
It has to be a joke. There's no way an artist could look at that head size and say "Ok, ready for print"

>>2265398
>everyone talks about the hands
>not the ayy fucking fish faces

>>2265445
are you saying there's another aspect of that picture that you think is stronger than his background?

>>2265450
Maybe we would notice if it weren't for their big meaty claws.

>>2265527
What did you say, punk?

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>>2261894
He should try more art-styles and ways to draw.
If he just stick with what he knows he wont learn better techniques and ways to draw that he can later apply in his own art-style.

>>2264717
>blonde
get your monitor checked

>>2265581
Is this an edit? i don't get it, the comics is right, but it feels like the author tried to make teacher to be an asshole

>>2265587
I'm not sure if this is an edit, I've never seen this particular comic, but that certainly sounds like how Dobson would frame things.

>>2265587
In the comic he admits that teacher was right and eventually he used what he learned, but the whole point was to show how hard teacher was on him, he depicts him screaming 80% of time in the end showing his soft side and saying something like "I just want you to learn".

>>2265531
Big. Meaty. CLAWS.

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>>2265397
I love this guy art.
Everything he draws is decent enough but those damn tiny heads.

>>2265586
Meant to qoute the original

>>2265734
Who else imagines them speaking in squeaky as fuck meatwad voices?

>>2264539
I'll be the guy who says "Taste". I like it in some spots. She's not good at drawing men, however.

>>2266099
I'll be the guy who says "Shittaste". Being 28 with an art degree and drawing like that means only that she refused to even learn anything new and sticked with that crap.
How can you even think about liking it? It's utter bullshit come on.

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>>2265734
Holy shit, at least when Prison School guy does it it's for comedic effect.

>>2266121
If someone asked me what I thought of it, I'd say it was cute. Not museum worthy, not by a mile, but, it's something. I also heavily doubt she's not capable of better.

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>>2262790
>reads filename
>KILL LE KILL
>THIS IS KILL LA KILL FANART
what the fuck did tumblr do to us

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>>2266130
Meh, her attempts at non-chibi stuff are even worse

>>2261493

Man, what happened in 2013.

>>2261894

That looks more like Gravity Falls with kinda sorta John K/1950s color palette. Nothing offensively bad, but some stuff looks a little wonky, especially that (stage) right arm.

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This might be more along the line of YLYL.

>>2264539
thats that girl who went to art school right?

>>2267320
nevermind he already said it

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This is going into spooky territory, but take a quick look at Kody-the-Fox on that there furry site run by the digimon guy for some high quality crazy.

>>2266136
You konw what pisses me off the most of this picture
Ralph is meant to be 9 FEET TALL
GOD DAMMIT

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>>2262839

>>2267328
Christ, you figure they'd show some competence after 4000 fucking ms paint drawings.

>>2268009
I don't think you would, just considering that drawing the same thing that many times only really teaches you what goes into drawing that thing.

>>2268014
I guess but Jesus it's like the diary of a mad man repeating the same thing and not dying of boredom.

>>2268019
Have you read the descriptions? The guy is legit autisitc.

>>2267328
Holy fuck what am I looking at here

>>2268014
it's essentially like iconic religious artwork, like the monks who would learn to just copy the same image over and over without thought to make it look even slightly realistic

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>>2267300
>spray painting

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If that was my progress I'd kill myself

>>2268077
Kek what is a light source

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>>2268077

>>2268082
each limb and pony tail in 2 and 3 are copy/pasted

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>>2268077

Kek

>>2268077
You can see the soul of the artist slowly getting killed.

>>2268110

And we all know why, for her last piece she's trying so desperately hard to please her tumblr audience

-make the robot fat
- make it darker toned
- make it ugly

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>>2264539
It's sickening that this comic...speaks to a certain part of me.

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>>2265399
>>2265398
>>2265397
THIS CANNOT BE REAL

THIS HAS TO BE A PHOTOSHOP

MY SIDES ARE IN ORBIT

>>2268136
Whyboner?

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>>2261429
The guy posted his own Tumblr in a Skullgirls thread on /v/, and I believe it's relevant to this thread.

http://jlittled.tumblr.com/

>>2268211
I've seen some horrible things, but even the darkest of the dungeons could not prepare me for the abyss that befor me.

>>2266136
>reboot

Oh lord I remember watching that after school when I was like 6 and lived on an acreage with 7 cable TV channels

>>2268077
the 2014 one looks so cute too, what a shame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fxls1XrcJc&ab_channel=GenZed

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>>2268280

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>>2268280
jesus christ, this everything

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>>2268211
did you really need to expose my eyes to that

>>2268077
She caught the Tumblr in 2015.

>>2268280
Gee, I wonder why the ratings are turned off.

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I fucking know this person
http://shipfreak.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/

>>2261562
are you the prick that copies her work and then lies about it? fuck off

>>2262085
It is shit, refer to the beginner thread.

>>2268211
>http://jlittled.tumblr.com/

EXCUSE ME ANON BUT WHAT THE FUCK

>>2268077

What exactly is wrong here?

>>2269066

Nevermind, didn't notice that for some reason the artist decided to make jenny fat, probably tumblr pandering.

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kody's pumpkin, love this guy

>>2269151
oh my god

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>>2269151
I'll admit I'm jealous of his popularity. Nothing else, of course, just that.

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new art twitch streams are AMAZING

>>2269175

Why don't you make one? Show how it's done amarite?

>>2269070
That's not even the main issue, you dumb fuck

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Some people might not think its so bad, but its just so unsettling to me.

>>2261646
Unatractive =/= unappealing. also, if i wanted to look at realistic people, then I would look at a fucking photograph.

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>>2261838

>>2269151
haha what?

>>2261562
She needs to put more effort with the anatomy, most of the focus are towards the faces because of the heavy detail and rendering but if you analyse the rest of the image it seems to work against it. The guy's eyelids are just as thick as his eyebrows! Both of their faces look dead and expressionless, I think the artist would do a lot better if she didn't have " it's muh style" syndrome, all there is to it is nothing more than a polished turd.

>>2261591
The pic in this post is from an FYP animation, are you trying to pull up art from a screenshot of an animation as being bad compared to a standalone piece or what?

>>2269151
yeeee kody boy keep doing what youre doing

(hey notice how when an artist like sakimichan post the same lame shit over and over in her gallery we all gang up on her and call her shit but when kody does it its endearing? It's because unlike sakimi, kody doesnt present a threat. What a bunch of pussies /ic/ is. just a passing thought)

>>2261838
There is no amount of works that can justify my anger towards you. If this was your plan, good job.

>>2261493
zero improvement. LOL

I dont even know what to say, oh wait I do.
Another 10 years perhaps.

>>2262839
animatedjames draws fart porn (shit tier fart porn, at that)

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>>2269489

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oh man

>>2269932
Omg...
>Little face compared to the size of the head
>Anime stereotyped.

>>2269978

That's some shit

>>2269978
That's some saladfingers shit.

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>>2261429
>fart lover fucker.
ah the bronie guy..why is he proud of this? i remember her drew his own fanfiction where sonic characters farted on him...

>>2269489
sakimichan is good enough to know better, kody is literally autistic.

>>2269988
>>2269983
The weirdest part is that the guy who made this shit made a shitload of variations of that pic with different characters.

>>2268077
Hair - copies the first one and pasted it on the other side

Arms - copy and pasted the first one

legs - copy and pasted the first one

Eyes - copy and pasted the first one, downsized it a bit

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>>2268280

>>2261818
I think like 90% of the people who've seen that picture have only heard that one song.

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>>2268211

>>2270019
The person who drew that died. He had marfan's syndrome

>>2269932
i fucking hate anime drawing fags
even when i was fuckign 10 i knew it was dumb to do that

>>2263112
not that i care for any of this but youre being a dumb faggot. these drawings are too simplified and shitty to be of any "race" they got fucking dots for eyes

>>2270342
>they got fucking dots for eyes
>you cant tell race from skin color
>im autistic
either way youre missing the point

>>2269175
so keyori gave up on vydia, huh?

>>2268950
OK you fuckers, what is it there that got you so freaked out??

>>2261646
>muh patriarchy

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>>2268211

>>2269489
to be fair 1 is literally retarded and is just enjoying himself. this makes it endearing because its not someone out to make a profit or to become something big, its just a guy who enjoys drawing scuba divers.

saki is being a market whore though and while personally I think it is fine, its not the same thing that goes on with kody so its a bad comparison.

>>2268073
>like the monks who would learn to just copy the same image over and over without thought to make it look even slightly realistic
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
ever take an art history class senpai?

>>2270595
>mfw half of this thread

>>2270383
the only point is that youre a retarded fedora trying to fit in but nobody wants you here so please leave

>>2268077
>>2268133
>>2268829
>>2270036
I know people are going to bitch at me and yell SHUTUP TUMBLR but are you kidding me with the fat thing?
Look at the 2013 pic. Her proportions are constrained to a degree that I don't even understand how her neck holds up her head. She's skinnier than her head and an edge away from being an Adventure Time Noodle-character. The same applies to 14, although they widened the hips. In 2015 the character has a stocky build but it's slightly more realistic, since her waist, shoulders and hips are where they should be; at or slightly past the width of her head.

But I'm sure people are going to run with the fact that she's a robot or it's stylized, but if that's true why is the 2015 stylization suddenly worse than the 2013 one? There are legitimate criticisms of course, like how she put too much detail and it looks busy, but people shouting 'EW FAT' without justification seem moronic to me. In what delusional world of yours do people have snake-like proportions of the first example?

>>2269978
this straight up looks like modern art

>>2269041
overwhelmed with autism

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>>2269978

>>2267328
http://kodyboy555.deviantart.com/gallery/

169 pages on dA

16fucking9

>>2270908

It just looks unappealing with the extra thickness. When you stylize you tend to exaggregate what's attractive. Waists get slimmer and legs longer. The picture is not anything near being realistic so that's obviously not its goal.

>>2268280
Oh, is that Michael from Rooster Teeth voicing that chad character?

>>2261820
>mfw windows 8 doesn't have it
might as well kill my self

>>2266134
>>2262790
brb gonna kms

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>>2268280
>W
>H
>Y

>>2262790
I like that they're so obsessed with making "REALISTIC UGLY WOMENS" that they've wound up drawing some disgusting mutants that don't look like anyone I've seen, ever.

>>2272073
>They're
Careful, your big other is showing

>>2266136
Ralphlet

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>>2261653
I don't get this either.
It's a problem I see more in multiple facets; I don't browse Tumblr, and the only time I ever did was for Fuckyeahterribleocs of different fandoms, but I assume it happens there as well.

When someone points out there's a minority being overlooked, what do they do? Whine and complain about how there should be fair representation before immediately unleashing a DELUGE of overrepresentation. Happens with gay/transgendered groups all the time. 2/0.3% of the population is statistically something nobody cares about unless it's some godawful disease - which, jokes aside, homosexually or sex dismorphia don't count as - so why so much attention to it? To not feel bad? To gain a sense of accomplishment for not really doing anything?

Ugly people aren't common. Average people are. Most characters look AVERAGE. An ugly character should be uncommon in a DIVERSE AND FAIR medium because realistically the numbers just play out that way. They shouldn't be unicorns, but they aren't chickens either.
So you have this wave of hypocrisy that comes in whenever these groups focus on any minority where they take works that don't typically feature them and shoehorn them in to be cool and tolerant and progressive, but demonize other works for not having them, even if there's no narrative or logical reason to have them in that work.

It's like when people bitch and moan about whitewashing characters but get praise for their fat/black/trans "reimaginings" of characters.

If you honestly think there needs to be more of a thing, make your own damn thing! Nobody's stopping you. No need to whine at people making what /they/ want to make because /you/ want something else made. It's why I don't get reimaginings of characters to be diverse. Just make new ones if you care that damn much; trying to apply traits on characters to fit the hip new tolerance flavor of the month makes for shitty characters anyway, because you've changed a (cont'd)

>>2272110
(cont'd) major aspect of the character without the character's personality/experiences/everything else changing accordingly. Or they give you these watered-down "I don't want to go too far into this thing" versions that are just insulting. Fat people are objectively less pleasant than an average person with otherwise identical qualities. Black people don't look like brown white people! An ugly black person and an ugly white/asian/hispanic person are all different types of ugly because they all have different phenotypes that have different unpleasant variations.

No, fat people aren't "realistic" or "normal", they might become increasingly prevalent, but they are a in a biologically abnormal state. Does that mean a fat person/chubby person is bad? No, but don't lie and create this false dichotomy that they have to have some sort of quality that compensates for their lack of thinness.

And that's a really backhanded and self-incriminating thing I've noticed about fat women talking about attractive women. "Oh, but I have a great personality." Personalities come easy: good bodies don't. The statement alone means the fat woman is threatened by the mere existence of a more attractive female. IF being fat was truly beautiful - or at least didn't matter - you wouldn't have to find a means of qualifying yourself as superior, and you definitely wouldn't use as shitty a crutch as personality when everyone has one and most people don't particularly have unbearable ones.

And don't get me started on how these groups "Social Justice Whatevers" or something as I've seen posted all over /co/ are so fucking backhandedly racist. It's not the burden of predominately white, predominately overfed women to represent all of the minorities they can think of for the best interest of parties they have no involvement in. I'm a black guy. If I cared enough to see more black characters in art, I -and by extrapolation, any black people that wanted to - (cont)

>>2272115
{cont) would say so myself! There's no need for anybody else to try to determine our needs and wants for us.

That's what I can't stand about this sort of movement. It's people that want to pretend to bear the burden for the poor helpless minorities, all the while watering down negative traits that realistically come with those minorities because they care but not enough to get too realistic because realistically those dark skinned people can be scary or those fat people can be gross or those sexually confused people can be creepy.

And a lot of them fall into one of those categories themselves. Is every person in a minority the embodiment of its worst? Of course not, but to do such a shallow representation of a group and claim to have succeeded in being the person that stuck out your neck for fairness and diversity is a shit-eating move and I hate every single person that tries to justify it.

Damn /ic/ this is my first time coming to this board and I took bait harder than years of /pol/ and /g/ combined but that's been on my chest for a while in relation to artwork and webcomics.

>>2272110
GET
>>2272115
THE FUCK
>>2272117
OUT

>>2272133
But Anon I just got here and I was even interested in the beginner threads.

tl;dr

>>2272110
>>2272115
>>2272117
that's how we all feel senpai. welcome to the club

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79iIVIIMHjM
This is pretty bad

>>2272182
I'm mad

>>2272182
that's autism for ya

to be honest his art skill isn't bad considering how mentally impaired he is

>>2261511
>yous

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>>2272110

We need to be focusing on the REAL over represented demographic--- Gingers.

There are only 2% of redheads in the entire world but they are constantly getting worshiped and forced into our media. I mean just look how many cartoon characters are red headed but how many do you know in real life hmmmm? Goddamn SJWS.

>>2272182
To be fair he DID save up all his money to buy something he likes to do something he enjoys. I aint even mad.

>>2272284
if being made fun of regularly counts as worship then i guess its great. where the hell do you live

>>2269151
elevated kek

>>2272284
I thought the beast, John Smith's friend, Herculese, Peter pan, Jenny, that guy from the black cauldron and the guy from ratatoulie were supposed to be brounettes with red undertones? It's far more common than straight up redheads.

Also, that lady from the Rescuers is most likely a box redhead. I doubt that shit is her natural color.

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>>2272357
There is more than one kind of red

>>2272284
>Complaining about redheads in animation
nice autism

>>2268280
Well time to turn to alcohol and bob ross, this day's been ruined.

>>2272483
The world percentage of redheads is 2%
Autism has been used in this threads replies 2.3%
Redheads are in 7% of the images posted in this thread.

>>2272158
Ah, I'll stick around for a few beginner threads, then.

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>>2272182
Found his dA, he has some mad Sai skills

>>2261858
bump. beat me to it
>>2261838
why dont you grab a workout slugging around a mattress or something?

>>2265399
hahaha i thought it couldnt get any "better" till black suit walked it. amazing

>>2273229
Oh lord I think I'm gonna be sick

>>2267328
this one hit me in the feels for some reason. this child should be allowed to continue regardless of our opinions

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>>2268280
the internet still amazes me

>>2261511
Fan art is awesome. Hell pretty much everyone starts drawing because they wanted to draw like their favourite cartoon or comic or whatever.
Hell I'm drawing the PPGs right now because of fucking /co/

>>2270908
you know what's funny about this?
The artist who drew that tried to kill herself after years and years of bullying and hate blogs because she didn't drew a Steven Universe character fat enough.

>>2273229
Christ if I was 26 and making this I would at least consider a new hobby.

>>2275496
got news for you buddy, you're probably not any better.

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>>2271527
>Mfw his work was better before
>confirmed troll

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>>2272110
>a DELUGE of overrepresentation
Adding to that I often feel like the representation is cringeworthy on its own, for not being a genuine representation. Like >>2263093 and >>2263112 shows, a lot of times they just throw on some really superficial bs to make it seem more "inclusive" but it just comes across as inauthentic, no better than when some corporate suit wants to throw in a token, because they themselves aren't part of that group, know nobody from that group, and are totally uninformed about what that group of people want to see. I for one don't like seeing tokenism no matter what the intent behind it.

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>>2264539

>>2275548
this. it's not so bad when you have a nerdy circle of livejournal gays that write slash fiction for their favorite show for them to get off to, but when you get whites drawing nonwhites or cis people drawing trans or fucking whatever for the sake of being ~progressive~ and ~unproblematic~ it becomes solely about the note-getting, and it's ridiculous, superficial, and, worst of all, enforced.

i don't even think "diversity for diversity's sake" is a bad idea, but to do it well you have to do your fucking research (and they refuse)

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>>2261894
>>2262085
Sam?

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>>2275562
Exactly. Even when people from that group contact them to say they're doing just as bad a job with their misrepresentation, or that they don't like someone else speaking out on their behalf, they just get deflected. And if you're not going to do your research about how to represent someone from a group you don't belong to, the least you can do is not make that minority group THE thing about that character, the whole reason for them even existing. Make it not the focus, just have it be something about them that's just part of them but wouldn't make them or break them without it, such as pic related. His eye patch is a more necessary feature than his skin color, it hints at so much more about his past and who he is than his race does, that's how to make it so his story is his character, not his race.

>>2264539
Ya know, if the author was 8 I'd get excited and buy the kid some art supplies. If they were 16 I'd nod and look forward to them developing their talent.

But 28? Fuck, its time to accept you're not good at do something that any nigger can do like writing.

Speaking of, back to the text document.

>>2261653
> thinks fat and ugly equals "realistic"
There literally isn't a term to what he's describing. I get that you have a narrow view of what counts as bangable but that doesn't mean we need to jack off to barbie dolls all day.

I'll take some fat on my wimminz since none of yall are giving them decent muscles.

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>>2272110
>homosexually or sex dismorphia don't count as - so why so much attention to it? To not feel bad? To gain a sense of accomplishment for not really doing anything?
Are you are literally retarded?

Okay let's think.
May be to make them have the same rights as heterofags? So they can marry too?
Or may be to give them same rights so they wont be killed?
Or may be to give them same rights so they wont be "illegal"?

Is this that hard to understand with your /pol/luted brain?


And why you even bring gays here? Are you a filthy homophibe? Gays dont have anything to do with tumblr. In fact Tumblr is as homophobic piece of shit as you if you will look at picrelated.

At least make fun of fatasses or black trans otherkins. but not gays. Because gays is one of few people who actually suffer from problems here.
>DURR HURR BUT IN MURRIKA.
shut up

>>2275678
>poof detected
lol

>>2275678
I just love how these tumblerites jump at every chance to spit into the faces of those who bother to read their opinions.

No seriously, I do. I think its great that they're shitty to people because that's a good way to burn your good will away. She's going to be shitty to every non squirrel-kin trans-dimensional person and then be left with a shitty echo chamber that ensures her opinion is lost forever.

im tempted to post some stuff i managed to save from flipnote hatena on the DSi but im honestly feeling too ashamed to make this shit public.

>>2273292
>child
Oh, anon...

>>2270908
Lose some weight

>>2270908
the 2015 stylization is worse because the artist did not improve the drawing skills or shapes in any way (the eyes look worse, IMO, the pose is stiffer, the perspective/body orientation is flatter, ...), he/she just threw more sparkly effects on it. All the gradients, fake 3D, fake glossyness etc just make it look really cheap.

The 2013 stylization is more coherent, dynamic, cartoony and the rougher/sketchier outline give it more of an "authentic artistic feel" compared to the 2015 version which looks like it was shat out by some barbie designer to be put on the packaging of their latest product.

No need to even invoke anything about proportions to explain why the 2015 version is bad. But yes, the oversized hands and massive shin pieces do look tumorous/clunky.

That being said, the discussion is probably pretty pointless anyway, I bet the 2013 version just looks good because the artist traced/copied it off of someone elses work...

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>>2269978
>>2270971
>>2272106

>>2269978
wasn't this literally just a very sick kid who tried to use art as an escape mechanism to get out of their shitty life.
and for that matter didn't they die from this disease anyways?
personally I find it kind of depressing.

>>2261434
That answer seems tailor made for another question.

>>2275500
Stfu I draw circles around this guy and he would think they were squares.

>>2269489
lol You're right. Even when it's an artist 'from /ic/, and they actively start to get really skilled (especially if they can make dime off their work), /ic/ will start slamming them. The jealously is really palatable.

>>2270334
Damn. :( It was probably a copying mechanism.

>>2273229
Ah, he's having fun, can't fault the guy for that.

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my disgusting old art

>>2265397
>>2265398
>>2265399
Is this that Attack on Titan show I keep hearing about?

>>2276501
wanna fuck? gay nerds are my type

>>2261838
It really upsets me that women think they have the monopoly on being sad because they're fat.

I'm a fat male and I had kids pinching my tits and rubbing my tummy for luck in HS.
I've had people in public shout "hey fat boy" or yell "faaatttyyyy" as they drove past in cars.
The worst thing women have to deal with is looking at thin women in magazines, and they will not stop bitching about how it's feminist issue and different body types should be accepted.
Now, what people have done to me isn't right, but the only logical way to deal with that is lose weight or put up with people being dicks. I've lost 15 pounds since I reached my fat-peak, and I'm going to keep going.

>>2276570

Keep up the weight loss, bro. It's not that women have a monopoly on being sad because they're fat. It's that women have a monopoly on having their feelings considered, period. Nobody gives a flying fuck about how unattractive men feel about their bodies.

>>2272110
It really annoys me that people this year decided that "whitewash" means to literally make someone white. It either means a cheap kind of white paint, or to metaphorically cover up something.

They used to call it racebending after the controversy about the last airbender film, but I guess that didn't demonize white folks enough.

>>2272182
>disabled people having a hobby is sad
Sad because you can't afford one maybe?

>>2276577
Thanks anon, I will :3

Although I should say I've found people (the events I mentioned before aside) in real life to be quite considerate and kind, so I think this thuggish version of feminism is an online or american thing.

>>2261646
I get what you're saying, there's nothing wrong with drawing someone who's not society's idea of sexy. People are jumping on this comment for no reason.

>>2276545
What's wrong about this?

>>2276545
Prease exprain.

https://youtu.be/y6hGRlHGiig

>>2265734
you can put the head in their pockets

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>>2268211
Its really shitty autism art, but its not that fucking bad. I was expecting some really fucked up shit considering the comments on it.

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my old anime shit

>>2261429
I love the fact that they both suck at drawing

>>2270334
thought it was his friend roger

>>2275562
>cis
>trans
please.

>>2275678
>This entire post
>America doesn't count

Do you think in countries that don't have legalized gay marriage/homosexuality that you get to show it in film/artwork?

I'm not even homophobic; I've been in a same-sex relationship. You're just trying to find a reason to be upset at me for pointing out the very valid fact that most of these artists aren't activists in any sense but providing filler work once something has already been deemed safe/people actually shooting for a cause have trailblazed for them. It's hip and progressive; they don't have their own logic behind it, and this primarily takes place not in some society where homosexuality/whatever minorities are illegal/a capital offense, but in first world nations with, at best, vocal opposition.

But you can't have a thought that disagrees with my thought because then you're trampling on my rights and freedoms that have been legally protected and stated by the highest court in the land.

Protip; showed my post to both my ex and my polyamorous friends; they didn't get offended because once again, it seems someone wants to take the duty of being offended off our hands. Don't.

>>2268077
>70908
why she gotta change her style?
The first one was actually more charming than the rest. I like it

>>2278222
>>70908
oops didn't mean to quote that

>>2276545
did you post the wrong image?

>>2276778
>>2276781
Look with your eyes, not your dick. Anatomy is garbage

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>>2265734
literally had me crying from laughter

>>2278227
Are you a woman? That pic is fine.

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>>2268211