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I recommend Kakukaku Shikajika to everyone struggling with finding

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I recommend Kakukaku Shikajika to everyone struggling with finding motivation for drawing. It's a short nonfiction manga about how Akiko Hayashi (pic related) became a successful mangaka.

>tfw you will never meet a mentor like Kenzou
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>>2183350
it's funny because despite everything she said and did, her paintings still sucked.

it was a decent manga though
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>>2183360
Who gives a shit about painting when you make a living with drawing?
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>>2183356
ic personified
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Reading it now
First chapter is so ic
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>>2183350
any links to reading it online?
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>>2183379
It's /ic/: The Manga

>>2183382
http://bato.to/read/_/205281/kakukaku-shikajika_v1_ch1_by_hachimitsu-scans/2
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>>2183384
So true
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>>2183364
calm down you retard. i'm just saying: for all the time she got drilled in life drawing, she hasn't got too much skill to show for it.
honestly, her teacher probably wasn't a very efficient teacher. he sounded like the type that just goes
>do it like i do! see?

and before you misunderstand, i'm not shitting on life drawing either.
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i saved some pages as well, OP
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1/2
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>>2183402
2/2

that being said, no need to hype this. it's not that amazing. but it's kind of a biography, which is rare for manga
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>>2183350
Oh so she was also the creator of Kuragehime, right? I loved that show.

I can relate to a lot of things. Her situation reminded me of how Richard Williams desperately wanted to be an animator when he was young but his teacher kept telling him to do life drawing and his interest in animation vanished for years.
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>>2183384
thank you anon
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>>2183403
It's a contrast to a shonen fantasy manga like Bakuman which was more about plot than drawing because it was not written by an artist
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>>2183416
since when was bakuman a fantasy manga?
also bakuman doesn't really compare, i think bakuman was really mediocre.
try RIN if you want another manga about mangaka
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>>2183403
I know that awful, awful feel.
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>>2183431
Bakuman is a fantasy, it's about teen heroes who become manga superstars in high school. The problems these guys face couldn’t be more detached from reality, I guess it's more slice-of-life with superficial conflicts which are resolved in the most cop-out way imaginable.
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>>2183392
I'm perfectly calm you shithead. Just raising a perfectly legit question. Why would a mangaka care about painting as a primary focus? Her skillsets need to be draughtsmanship and inking.
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Why doesn't she just tell him?
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>>2183447
autism
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>people in college still draw like this
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>>2183445
your question doesn't have anything to do with what i said though.
i said, just as an observation, that her painting skills are pretty bad despite spending so much time on it.
i'm talking about the improvement part, not wether she needs it or not.

>>2183447
she didn't want to disappoint this enegertic old man.

>>2183431
no anon, fantasy is a genre. you're using the word wrong in this context.
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>>2183480
meant for >>2183440
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>>2183485
sauce mah boi
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>>2183350
Reading.
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>>2183356
source?
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>>2183553
>>2183518
anon. pls.
every single page except >>2183459 posted itt is from OPs recommendation.
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>>2183559
anon pls
http://bato.to/read/_/205281/kakukaku-shikajika_v1_ch1_by_hachimitsu-scans/6
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>>2183564
oh. i forgot about that scene kek.
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>>2183559
I feel so retarded right now. Thanks.
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Why did I laugh at this? God damn it.
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You didn't warn me it was gonna make me cry, anon
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>>2183713
Just draw anon.
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Reminds me of my teacher at an art club in elementary school. She was a really kind and encouraging old woman, but she gave solid advice and criticism. it's probably because of her that I continued doing art. I often wonder what's she's up to now, since I no longer live in the town I grew up in. I hope she isn't dead yet.
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>>2183713

You're not going to try for Tokyo U, anon?
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>>2183350
10/10 cried like a bitch. Thank you OP, i really needed something like this.
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>>2183459
>college

She clearly said it was when she was in elementary school (6 ~ 12yo).
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This was bittersweet, it made me laugh and punched me with feels 2 seconds later.

Good read, thanks op!
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>>2184227
Can you give me a run down? Im not going to waste time reading shit when I could be drawing anon
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>>2184235
Go read it, you're not going to draw anyway :^)
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/ic/ manga
http://exhentai.org/g/793160/b7169b3255/
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fuck me..
I havent cried this hard...
sensei.. I'll work harder and just draw!
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>>2183350
that was really good.
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I want to read more short stories how mangaka got started and what they think about their past. It's so different from Europe.
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>>2183350
That was a great read. Man, those japanese really have a really wide range of genre on their comics. Also, kudos to those people translating these comics.
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>>2184283
>contemporary

Gross, literally subhuman.
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>>2183350
Holy shit...senseeeeiiii...i will draw !!!
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Excerpt from this 34 chapter waste of time; just draw.
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>>2184401
Alright, here you go.
The true /ic/ the manga
http://exhentai.org/g/706725/482b713c91/
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>>2184444
>hurr durr waste of time

How many hours are you gonna spend of 4chan today, I wonder.
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>>2183652
https://youtu.be/yy57XamAu7k

https://youtu.be/gJscrxxl_Bg
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>>2184448
quads dont lie anon
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>>2183350
Read it a few month's ago and it's really good. It has dark moments but generally avoids the 'woe is me' autobio problem since she's pretty honest with acknowledging her own fuckups.
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>>2184394

it's not really an origin story, but the first volume of I Am a Hero is almost entirely about a mangaka's menial existence. Then the plot changes a little bit.
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>>2184450
That first one made me feel really weird and turned on. W-why.

>>2184447
That's much better.
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>>2184169
I think you misread the post.
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>>2183350
Tomorrow I'm going to draw my waifu using that image as reference, maybe.. i hope..
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>>2184447
>/ic/ the manga
>is not about whipping beginners with fundamentals

shit manga m8
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>>2183350
Thanks for this anon.

>tfw I also just started working a call center full time
>tfw I'm learning to oil paint
>tfw I plan on making a short comic in the next few months

This was some needed inspiration.
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>>2184447
thank you, based anon
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>>2183350
Great read.

This book should be on the sticky!
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I'm reading it. I'm at chapter 10 or so and I have to say that I hate this bitch.
I mean, slacking completely at high school, with luck she got the high score at the test. Putting little to no effort she got at college. Even slacking at college, in a few days she got a "good job" for her oil work.
I learned with this manga, even if I must finish it, a few things.
>Only who is blessed with luck win
>Lack of effort is paid with talent
>You don't need to work hard always, only the last day
>To be a successful mangaka you should treat like shit your mentor
>Tits and pussy beats effort
>Guessing questions is statistically inefficient. But the 2% quantile can do it.
>When you won, write a manga about how you win with little effort, so others stop putting effort and just go to the Himalayas and be a hermit.
I FUCKING HATE THIS BITCH WITH MY BURNING SOUL!

But I will keep reading the manga, it's a question of honor to finish what I begun.
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>>2187877
m8, calm down, look his drawings irl, she needs more loomis
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>>2187887
Yes, the worse is that, even I, who begun drawing 5 days ago know that.
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>>2187889
>who begun drawing 5 days ago
who would have thought
learn to chill man, accept that others aren't all like you
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>>2187892
Man, I'm learning to draw for fun. I'm successful in my career. And I had put a lot of effort to be it. Like I'm actually making the effort in learning the basics of drawing. But I love more physics than drawing, that's why I'm learning only now.
But she makes money and is successful from her work with no effort. And you niggers praising her as if she were an inspirational deity.
Personally, I wouldn't let my son to be near a person like she.
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>>2187906
>And you niggers praising her as if she were an inspirational deity.
They liked the manga. That's it.
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>>2187906
>But she makes money and is successful from her work with no effort
>no effort
>draws and paints 9 hours a day at her sensei's place for many years
>then only has a few hours a night between day job and teaching to do her manga
>had to do ~70 pages a month with no assistants
>that one time had to do an extra 100 pages in a month
>continues to draw a shitton for 15 or whatever years
>didn't even stop when she had an infant child screaming and shitting himself 24/7 for several years
>only got her breakthrough success after 10 years of work
>no effort
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jesus
I don't think I can read all of this
it's like facing myself, I'm a huge weeaboo too
will this give me bad feelings?
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>>2187987
read all of it.
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>>2187906
>I'm learning to draw for fun
>But she makes money and is successful from her work with no effort
I've never disregarded an opinion so fast and with such fervor before in my life
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>>2187967
Well, as I said I have read only 10 chapters or so. For sure I rushed judging the mangaka.

But before she going to college didn't passed years, passed few months. And the theoretical test was a lucky strike. You can't deny that. That don't happen to any person. It's a big lucky strike she got to college.
Then when she gave the second test, she passed only because that guy told her the secret. She had a big luck.
And after college (and until the point I have read) she didn't any effort. That's for sure.
>>2188027
It's worth of praising that you can write without knowing to read.
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>>2183350
What's going on in this thread? Why are you cunts not minding your own business? Why are you gossiping about some weeb that draws mango? Why are you not studying faggots?
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>>2188081
I have a suspicion the dowsing technique for the test was a joke, but even if it wasn't, yeah, life's like that, luck is important.
>Then when she gave the second test, she passed only because that guy told her the secret
the rest of the applicants learned it too, but they all failed inclusing the guy who already drew the statue before. Entrance exams are a sham anyway, she even writes that you have to study a couple of busts and if you didin't practice them, you're fucked, what kind of skill evaluation is that? And if I understood it correctly, japs still have to pay tuition expenses even after getting into public/government sponsored colleges, that's fucking dumb. I half-hoped she'd fail and self-study like her sensei.
Also she got the blues in college, that's kind of the point and the start of her feeling exceedingly guilty about not liking painting as much as she thinks she should.
Read it, it's pretty good and touching (don't know about motivational though, life's too random for straightworward connection between hard work and success).
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I want to fuck sensei
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>>2188087
Stfu pablo. Nobody has time for your mess
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>>2183350
Fuck, that made me cry
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>a nip actually told a good non-linear story without a ton of trite plot elements

Is this person really japanese?
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This...this reminds me of the first time I came to /ic/...
/ic/...the Gordon Ramsey of the art world putting two pieces of bread on either side of my head and calling me an idiot sandwich when I first posted my art and thought I was top shit. Thank you, sensei /ic/
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>>2188737
It's a biography
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>>2187877
>believing in hard work

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>>2187887
>she needs more loomis

Do you guys say this "needs more Loomis" shit ironically?

I can't even tell anymore
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>>2189830
Iktf, Loomis jokes will always be a mystery to this weak mind of mine
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>>2187967
He just wants to be mad at a woman, don't bother trying to change his mind with facts.
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>>2187877
>I FUCKING HATE THIS BITCH WITH MY BURNING SOUL!

Thats the point of the fucking manga, author keeps mentioning trough that if she had time machine she'd go back in time and punch herself for being a little cunt.

Whole point of it is that she regrets things she's done and giving tribute to her teacher. Gotta admit it almost made me cry, I can only imagine how it felt for her to pour all of her dirty laundry onto the paper, and I give her mad props for that.

We are all shitty humans in the end.
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>>2187877
her drawing talent isn't even all that great.
and what makes you think she did everything without effort? she was drawing since she was little and even took lessons until college. that's the base that she is working with.
i really don't understand your thought process
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>>2188094
>I half-hoped she'd fail and self-study like her sensei.
her sensei was taught by some local master iirc

>>2188737
you need to read more manga

>>2191757
>I give her mad props for that
this manga won this years taisho award. at the beginning i thought there were better choices, but if i really think about it it was probably justified.
i just don't like the fact that an autobiography won the award.
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>qt asian girl "inspiring" me, a middle-aged white man

kek m8
to be fair the demographic of this board is primarily young girls, better to get inspired by this than read cosmo or whatever.
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>>2191864
>not finding a hardworking Asian inspiring to you, a lazy spoiled white man

It's weird how people keep acting like she was a slacker when merely attending her grade school would have given every single person here PTSD.
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>>2187877
sounds like someone doesnt get the point of the manga at all, why dont you stop reading
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>>2191864
>to be fair the demographic of this board is primarily young girls
to think it has come this far, for newfags to have this kind of impression. you need to kill yourself.

>qt asian girl
she's not even cute. the OP photo is the best one i've seen from her.

and it's beside the point anyway. it's basically just her revealing her life, i don't see how her looks or gender or my age or gender matters at all.
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Is there anywhere I can cop a pdf of this?
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>>2191874
But we are all little girls here.
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>>2191925
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>>2191925
fam pls
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>>2191874
80% of people i've met through /ic/ are girls ages 16-24.
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>>2192110
What? I've only met one girl through /ic/ and multiple dudes. I think it's mostly guys aged 18 to 25. Previous threads that have polls and questions about age and gender support this (iirc that is).
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>>2191925
This loli gets it
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>>2192110
Heh, same.
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>>2183459
>Crazy detective story
>look like characters from detective conan
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>>2192185
are you really "epic face palming"
the drawing from a 7 year old?
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Fuck you OP. I read the whole thing and now i am so fucking sad. Also it took me fucking hours to read. Fucking hours that i coulda download bunch of artbooks
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>>2192201
>There are people right now that are actually getting upset or emotional over a comic book
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>>2192197
>7
You really picked the lowest grade. Anyway I thought she was in college somehow because anon said something about it but it's still funny. She could have made it less laughable.
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>>2192204
People can get upset after reading novel or watching a movie. So why not over a comic?
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>>2192210
Stop getting emotional about other people and worry about yourself.
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>>2192207
try reading it before you post or something?

that is an actual drawing she did when she was in grade school.
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>>2192185
That's literally what you're supposed to feel. That's why she put in the shit she drew when she was a child, to get that reaction.

I don't get the point of this post.
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>>2192228
I did chill the fuck out you butthurt whiteknight. I didn't think much about it because I just wanted to mention the irony of it looking like detective conan characters. Sheeeeit are your mother hormones working or what? 7 yo you can't draw like that or write like that. If you assume something that stupid how can I even take you seriously. It was just a little funny not that poorly drawn for elementary age just silly. Calm your tits you dried out prume jeesh!
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>>2192282
No it wasn't and are you resorting to samefagging now? Just let it slide it's not ever worth arguing about anon.
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>>2192298
Nice save bro. Almost made you look like less of an asshole.
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>>2192217
A U T I S M
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>>2192207
>>2192298
Are you mentally challenged
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>>2192298
You never wrote or drew shitty comics when you were in grade school? Also. I don't think you know what white knighting is.
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>>2183350
Great find OP.

>tfw you will never feel the sting of insults and a stick to the head from a stern sensei who won't let you give up
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My sides have gone nuclear.
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>>2183350
Thank you to the anon that posted this, I've been reading it all week and have really been enjoying it.
Does anyone know of any other books, mangas or shows like this?
Gekkan Wa Shoujo Nozaki Kun is also a really good anime about a manga artist, KakuKaku is a lot more relate able and realistic.
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>>2192567
Shiro Bako or whatever is ok
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>>2192568
Thank you, I will read it.
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I had fun pronouncing that name
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>>2183350
Good read, I'm a game dev who picked up drawing so I can stop relying on other people so much for assets and things I need. Wish I picked up drawing earlier in life, its a lot of fun but I still suck terribly.
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>>2183350
>tfw you will never have someone like sensei Kenzou to lovingly teach you art through tough love
Why bother living /ic/?
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I'm getting towards the end. I wasn't ready for this. I didn't ask for these feels. I'm getting serious at 26, and I'm trying to drill "Just Draw" into my head.

>>2192599
I will become Sensei Kenzou for someone someday I hope.
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Thank you OP for the recommendation, this helped me get my shit together.

....but mang the last chapters, fuck mah feelingz.
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I had to stop and draw a little once I got to this page.
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>>2192738
forgot image
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thanks OP, i spent about 8 hours reading the entire thing.
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>yfw JUST DRAW
Fuck
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T-thanks, OP. I'm just had a few tears fall onto my dinner.
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Pretty good OP, thanks for the recommendation.
I'm pretty much at the stage where she's finished college and now working at a shitty job she hates, but at least it gives you fuel to get better.
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>>2193505
>reflected in a computer screen

she's now digital artist.
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>>2192947
Tbh she couldn't do draw because she was only doing studies/copying like all of /ic/
The teacher just told her to do exactly that (draw what she sees), but she knew that's not what professionals do.
I haven't finished it yet, though.
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>>2184452
fuck off you memenigger
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>>2183350
Thank you for sharing this. I would never had read a biographic manga if it's wasn't for you anon.
It was a very insightful and enjoyable read.
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>>2192947
is that, from that h manga with the moth girl?
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Throughout most of this, I was just really pissed off about how she disappointed and squandered so many people and opportunities. The fact that her teacher existed and entrusted her with so much was a godsend.

And the ending hit me really hard knowing that fact.
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>art school graduate and drawing instructor
I like her work enough now, but what the fuck
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i like the moments when they're both being idiots.

the teacher's fate is gonna punch me in the heart, isn't it.
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--huh, her brother makes tonari no seki. i didn't know that.
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See, oldfags? There's hope of gettin gud at art even when you're older.
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>>2193715
I saw Firez in that panel.
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This would be intolerable to read without the asides going "<-- and that's why I was being a fucking idiot".
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these drawings suck tbh
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>>2193715
>drawing only from life
>good
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>>2193770
Yes.
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>>2193770
anon, you won't make it with that snark
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>>2193584
lets be realistic, her teacher hit people with sticks.
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>>2193765
Reminder that you'll literally never be better than her
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I really like Kakukaku, but I find it a little weird that people sometimes act like it's a magic "this is how you get good at drawing" story. It's far more about Akiko's emotions such as fear of rejection from sensei and getting over your own ego.

It's more of a good manga IMO as opposed to an "all artists must read this" piece.
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>>2194415
Why would you think this? Shes not that good tbh.
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>>2194419
this. i found it strange that this thread exists in the first place. well, at least it didn't devolve into shitposting
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I think it's a good manga for artist's to read, especially /ic/. It teaches several lessons topical to art and /ic/ in general

>you can still 'make it' if you're older
>you can lose your abilities quickly (she went to college and went back to square one artistically because of her partying, reading uguu~ manga all day and so on)
>you can succeed with persistence and hard work (her first two post-debut submissions were rejected)
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I binged the whole thing in the last two days and I really enjoyed even if she's a fucking selfcentered and ungrateful cunt, or really just hard to empathize with, she mostly tries to exaggerate the differences between her and her sensei.
Still, I don't think her relationship with her mentor was as bad as she tries to depict it was by the end.
I really wish I had someone to make me draw the way he did. It reminded me of the teacher from whiplash

Also sensei was hardcore and real as fuck.
>no canned food
>didn't go to the hospital while sick, kept on painting instead
>trained a cat to become the alpha cat and attack everyone but him
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>>2194789
>even if she's a fucking selfcentered and ungrateful cunt
I like that the present day her realizes this at least. I wish I had saved the page where she asks if anyone has invented a time machine yet, then she punches past-her in the face.
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>>2194957
The reason why time machines have not been invented yet is due to the inventor, of the time machine, going back in time to punch himself/herself.
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>>2193715
>Hope.

There's that word again.

I only see it in manga and anime, though.
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>>2194957
>I wish I had saved the page where she asks if anyone has invented a time machine yet
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>>2183403
>it's kind of a biography, which is rare for manga
You should read more manga because there are a shitton of biographical series and a few good ones ( Shigeru Mizuki, Fumi Yoshinaga, Junji Ito, Moyocco Anno, Yoshihiro Tatsumi ect) are available in languages besides japanese
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>>2197019
You should read less manga and draw more.
>>
I cri evryitiem
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>>2197019
>available in languages besides japanese
i do read a decent amount, but i haven't seen that many translated online. i know some that are published, but i don't go out of my way to read autobiographies about old mangaka
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>>2183350

thanks for the recommendation OP, I've read it and enjoyed it, probably the second manga I read in my life too.
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MILF
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>>2197416
>>
Akiko Higashimura (the creator or this manga, I think OP got the name wrong) is going to be in an upcoming documentary TV series in Japan that focuses entirely on the process of making manga:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-08-27/nhk-documentary-series-peeks-at-process-of-drawing-manga/.92130
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>>2197416
>you can't have interests outside of art
Nig do you draw 17 hours a day and do nothing else? That sounds like a disgusting recipe for uninspired burn out.
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>>2201647
Akiko Higashimura is only her pen name, her real name is in OP >>2183350

SUBS FUCKING WHEN???
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>>2201877
>>2201647
this. i need subs.
weebs, get to it.
pls.

also most of the names are high profile in one way or another, i hope some of my favorites make it in.
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damn....
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>>2201983
I don't get it.
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>>2202031
It was at the teacher's funeral. He always told his students to "Just draw".
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>>2202033
And?
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>>2202039
It means you have autism
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>>2201983
JUST DRAW MY SHIT UP
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>>2201647
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-08-27/nhk-documentary-series-peeks-at-process-of-drawing-manga/.92130

>Naoki Urasawa (Monster)
>Akiko Higashimura (Kuragehime)
>Kazuhiro Fujita (Ushio no Tora)
>Inio Asano (Oyasumi Pun Pun)
>Takao Saito (Golgo 13)

Oh shit. I've been waiting for this my whole life
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>>2201647
Fucking neat. Hopefully it gets subbed and uploaded quickly.
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>>2201647
Someone relay this to /a/, maybe a subber would catch on to it.
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>>2183350
On the topic of artists manga, anyone know where I can read/watch Bakuman ?
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>>2205278
Try bato.to or kissmanga
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>>2205278
what is google
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>>2205278
Bakuman is trash
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>>2205638
why
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>>2205290
I tried but it was taken down in a lot of places
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>>2205638
Your life is trash
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>>2205278
>>2205288
http://bato.to/read/_/17725/bakuman_ch1_by_sleepyfans
Here it is for anyone else who wants to read it after the OP manga. Spend more time drawing though and read it on breaks.
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>>2192691
Yeah, we could all use an artist version of nama sensei. I've been thinking about doing some kind of art class video series going all the way from the fundamentals, but I don't want to commit to that kind of project only to pussy out after a year like he did.
>>
Subs yet?
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>>2207821
nah
>>
Pilot Ep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=31&v=ME8wpT1ehbs
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>>2205850
And here a mirror: https://manga.madokami.com/Manga/G%20-%20M/Kakukaku%20Shikajika
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>>2201647
This definitely needs to be subbed. Relay this on every relevant board.
>>
>$42 tuition fee every month
>$171 fare 30/1

Fuck mane. That latter fee ain't feasible for me.
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>Let's her sensei who got her so far down as he's dying of cancer just to draw some mediocre manga.
What a cunt.
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Why does her backgrounds and realistic drawings look so good, but her stylized art looks like trash?
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>>2212989
photo references, assistants etc.
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>>2212996
Like I expected the art to resemble this
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>>2213005
But then I got a whole bunch of this
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>>2212989
>>2213005
>>2213011

Prioritization
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>>2213017
your momization
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>>2213011
it's a joke
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>>2183350
>Tfw sensei probably died from inhaling the fumes in the studio for too many years.
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>>2183459
she's gotta recreate crazy detective story
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>>2214431
it can't be that serious right? does anyone actually develop illness from this? googling it seems it really does have some toxic properties though...
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>>2198717
What's the first that you read, anon?
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>>2214721

Not sure about cancer, but working with lead-based paints will royally fuck you up if you aren't careful.
>>
first episode is out:
https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=730289
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>>2215168
sweet
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>>2215168
just finished it. Even without translated subs it was a good watch.
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>>2215168
>480p
Why?
Here is 1080
https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=730290
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>>2214721
Inhaling turpentine will fuck up your lungs over the years.
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>>2213011
To an extent it's Quantity>Quality
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>>2215203
Aren't those subs that I'm seeing in the file?
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>>2215249
those are in japanese.
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>>2215256
ah, alright

also, no seeders ;_;
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>>2215168
>>2215177
>>2215203
>>2215204
>watching a tutorial about drawing a heavily stylized cartoons in Japanese
>not spending time on Hampton, Vilppu or Robertson
Why are you doing this?
Drawing manga is a waste of time if you want to be an illustrator or concept artist.
Even if you're a hobbyist who don't care about getting a job, you could find some better tutorials in English.
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>>2215264
it's a documentary
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>>2215265
OK, what's the point of watching a documentary you don't understand?
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>>2215316
I couldn't translate it but I get the general gist of what they're talking about.
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>>2215316
I can, i learned a language so i can read eromanga and i am now learning a craft to draw lolis and scat, that's the kind of person i am.

>>2215264
I am interested in drawing actual manga/erotic doujinshi, there are not many books out there for things like panel composition in manga, tone usage etc.
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>>2215168
>This is my casual every day life, i just wore this simple tracksuit and made this very complicated hairstyle to go to work, not because there are cameras or anything.
Womane are the same everyere in the world.
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>>2215432
She did make herself look like a diva in her manga, though.
>>
Subs pls ;_;
It's cool to see her workplace.
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>>2183431
Bakuman was ok for a time, then it turned to something I don't like.
Honestly the best shit I've seen about art in anime/manga is Shirobako.
I don't know how realistic it is, but it sure feels like you're working in a japanese animation studio when watching this. (minus of course the silly and cute characters, but they're still relatable)
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>>2183350
Thanks for reading me this. I guess that reading since chapter 19 is enough to making me stop wasting time and draw seriously
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Few chapters in...is it Whiplash the manga?
I like it.
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>>2215432
>1975

Cute as fuck MILF.
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>>2215168
I need subs...badly.
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>>2215955
If she was 'cute' like that like mentioned in the manga, then her boyfriend would have been totally hotter lol. bijin + ikemen well they sure were a match for each other. just like in her chinese cartoons. good for her. [spoiler]http://pastebin.com/nUykUHiH[/spoiler]
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>>2216630
Drawing is not for you.
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>>2215536
kinda, but the teacher isn't an asshole
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>>2215168
subs when
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>>2216537
She has shit taste in men
I wonder why they divorced tho
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>>2215461
Barakamon spoke to me on a spiritual level. I think it's better that bakumon. It's about a calligrapher but I think it relates to all artists. Give it a shot anons.
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Well, after reading everything I said out loud "what a fucking bitch". but then I realized I'm not really in the position to look down on someone like that, so eh. the only thing is that I'm really jealous of people that was lucky enough to have someone support their fixation with drawing. I have to admit that this woman managed to trick my brai into thinking the characters in the story are people I really know, and that's fucking rare in the shitton of stuff I've read in multiple decades.
special mention to reggaekichi, because he is everyone who gave up being an artist, mangaka or whatever, and its pretty fucking sad.
couldn't you really give him a little push, you stupid chink bitch? damn
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>>2183350
Do you think that she got pregnant by accident and huredly got married? She only mentions what happened in like one bubble, its weird how vague she is about her husband but keeps talking about Nishimura-kun.
Do you think she hopes that Nishimura-kun will see it and want to forgive her for messing up their relationship?
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>>2215435
Not really, she gave herself a super square body type, not thin at all.
I'd fucking do my hair too if I knew a shitton of people were going to see it. Why are you cunts being so critical?
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>>2220050
Did she get divorced? I just caught that she had a kid with someone that definitely wasn't her long-distance boyfriend, I didn't know she actually married the guy lol
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>>2220057
Yeah she mentions a couple of times that she was a divorcee. She says she got divorced after like a year but hardly mentions it or why it happened.
>>
So throughout high school and college she was drilled in direct drawing, only to discover that manga requires a different approach. I wonder how typical that story is in Japan. Reminds me of Hiroaki Samura who also quit oil painting for manga.
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>>2220055
Do you know what a "diva" is? It has nothing to do with looks.
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>>2220335
>Hiroaki Samura who also quit oil painting for manga
I had no idea.
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>>2220345
explain how she made herself a diva in the manga
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>>2220391
she points it out herself multiple times

she loves being flattered, she spends a lot of money on clothing and other stuff.

It's not an insult and I don't understand why you're getting so defensive about it. The comment I replied to implied that she dressing her hair all fancy because there were cameras, and I made the point that that's probably how she really is in real life, considering how she presents herself in the manga.
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>>2220399
>she dressing her hair all fancy because there were cameras,
any woman would do this. seriously.
>>
>>2220401
Sure, but I made the point that she probably likes to do weird/fancy hairdos regardless.
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>>2187877
welcome to real life
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>>2183350
I'm getting a lot from reading this manga. Makes me put pencil to paper. Thank you, anon.
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>>2216959
>>
She is a fucking based story teller

Read all her shit

Art is literally scribbles though, just like sensei said lel

But really. She knows how to fucking panel
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>>2225981
Is there anything worth reading other than Kuragehime? I'm not particularly interested in her shoujo stories or anything of the sort.
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>>2226001
Yeah theres a lot. People have been making manga for a while. Have you read one piece yet?
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>>2226004
No, I mean under Akiko's works.
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>>2226006
Probably her desk dude
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>>2226009
lol i see
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>>2226010
Gotcha ;)
>>
>>2184658
>That first one made me feel really weird and turned on. W-why.
ASMR does that to you.
>>
>read this
>get motivated, start drawing everyday
>one week later get a job offer
>its a delivery job, meaning I won't be able to do anything for at least ten hours everyday and I'll be exhausted when I come back
>can't say no because its my first decent proposal in months
what the hell, what the fucking damn hell holy fucking shit
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>>2226713
Well if it's shit you'll get mad motivated to draw during your free time, right ?
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>>2226713
see

>>2223250
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>>2226713

Wake up early to draw and then when you get home eat dinner and immediately go to bed. That way you have the most energy for doing what's important instead of your job.
>>
Okay today was the first day
I actually wrote how shit it was, but I deleted everything because I don't actually care, I just want to draw
>>2226967
seen and quoted, the similitudes are impressive
>>2226963
free time is evening when you're fucking tired, and saturdays and mondays. not much really
>>2226969
I'm going to try that. probably
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>>2183459

No, that's still cute, she had talent all along. You can't even draw something like this /ic/ fuck you
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SUBS FUCKING WHEN
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>>2204040
OHGOD YESSSS
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No 404 until someone fucking subs that shit.
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>>2230220
>>2232114
never until the start if 2nd season (march 2016)
>>
Please, lend me your strenght once again
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>>2232278
Why that long? Fuck this gay earth.
>>
Please sensei show me the way
>>
One should re-read this regularly to avoid falling into slumps.
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>>2232114
Has anyone asked the group that subbed Aoi Honoo to work on this? It seems like something that would be up their alley.
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>>2219960
Barakamon is a 10/10 for me, but since it's all about -not- doing things by the book and finding your own voice, a lot of the people on /ic/ who obsess over technical perfection and following the 'rules' of the craft will have the same reaction to this series the MC has when old guy gallery man tells him his technically flawless work is shit. They won't acknowledge it and they'll get fucking pissed.
The experience this series tells of is one people need to make for themselves, so I guess you really hit the nail on the head by describing it as spiritual.
>>
>>2240935
That's my main issue with /ic/'s attitude. There's a massive focus on technical skill and not so much on creativity and finding your own style. Not only does this cause people to have issues improving since they are mindlessly doing studies, but in the end their work won't be interesting since they never learnt anything other then doing studies.

It just makes me wish creativity and being able to make things like original illustrations were more valued here.
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>>2240977
Then bring more creativity in /ic/, you lazy fuck.
There have been people doing more abstract work here, but people generally don't like that kind of thing because their 3-year old is a master in art.
>>
>>2240981
>Then bring more creativity in /ic/, you lazy fuck.
I post in threads that deal with creativity pretty frequently, but I assume what you mean is that people like me should post their work, and I don't want to do that.
I go to 4chan because talking about things anonymously makes it easier to be honest about topics I'm unsure about. You don't have to worry about embarassing yourself and you can acknowledge when you say something stupid without having to think about your ego. Posting your art basically turns you into an avatarfag, and I feel like if I'm going to go wave my art in other peoples faces I won't be able to talk as honestly anymore since It'll literally tie my image to this place.
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>>2240866
>spend time re-reading this shit story
Its like you werent reading anon, just fucking draw.

>>2240977
>focus on technical skill and not so much on creativity
Theres a world outside of /ic/ that'll teach creativity

>mindlessly doing studies
some people do it, some dont

>in the end their work won't be interesting
thats an opinion

I agree there are issues with /ic/, but your issues look childish; then again, I could be wrong.
>>
Suit yourselves, but I would never tell anyone to follow advice from someone who has zero artistic talent.

Either way anyone drawing in anyway from manga as a source of inspiration is a joke.
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>>2242225
NO U SUIT URSELF
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>>2242225
Well it's a good thing no one comes to you for advice.
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>>2242279

Good thing that's wrong.
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>>2242286
I'm going to cry of laughter if you say you're facebook famous.
>>
>>2242290

I'm not really going to say anything on the matter, I'll keep you guessing. Because you really think about me, it seems.
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>>2242293
Yeah bro, Ima lose sleep over your identity.
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>>2232278
English subs are out on nyaa, but only for the Asano Inio episode.
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>>2242414
HELL YES. Thanks, anon.
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>>2242424
That's not Akiko anon, so it doesn't warrant a HELL YESS.
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>>2183350
>mentor
stopped reading here

If i and most likely any other artist had a mentor, things would go much more faster for us.
Getting Mentor is like typing a cheat code for superpowers.
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>>2242448
We'll get that eventually, in the mean time GET PSYCHED!
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>>2242450
Well that's because you aren't a real artist(lol). It's a well established fact that the majority of real artists go to schools to learn.
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>>2230220
It's here!
http://animetics.net/2015/10/07/higashimura-akiko-on-manben-subtitles/
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>>2243783
Thanks.
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>>2242450
>stopped reading there
there were only two more words in the post, man.

and your post is confusing. are you saying mentors are bad?
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>>2183350
I'd love to see her sensei's actual work.
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>>2243783
HELL YES! Thanks, anon. Someone should put this on nyaa too.
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>>2243783
KITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
She is fast.
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>>2243783
Loved the show!
Urasawa is amazing. I want to see more, but without subtitles it will not be so cool >_<
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Thank you you beautiful human being you
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>>2183384
>It's /ic/: The Manga
Her art still sucks though. Is that the /ic/ part?
Write a manga about how hard it was to learn to draw and have it look like shit?
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>>2244744
The manga is about never do what she had to do. She was with the best teacher and never draws, at art school? Nothing...

She is an artist, with her style and limitations like a lot of comic book artists over the world. Her ideas and shit art sells. So... There's something there.
>>
>>2243783
Man these fucking subtitles are all over the place when more than one person start talking

I guess it's better than nothing
>>
>>2187877
>he doesn't procrastinate and still make it through on the top

sounds like you just need to git gud at life
>>
>>2188081
Jap college entrance exams are ALL fucking stupid, it's no surprise. If you're mad about her going to college in general then you must have either been shit at school or you don't get how those tests over there work. Fuck I slacked off every day in high school, skipped classes, I remember skipping out weeks and I still got into NY state with my shitty grades and even then I still skipped out on lectures, procrastinated like a mother fucker and yet university was still a breeze and I'm currently working on my Masters (math major).

Getting into college doesn't require as much effort as you think it does, it's landing a good job that pays well out of it that's the hard part and she definitely put effort in to making that happen, and EVEN THEN she still had the shit end of the stick, having to draw constantly for hours and hours, not getting a good paying job but sticking with it for years until she rose up
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>>2243783
How did you all make it work? MPC-HC doesn't render the subtitles with the 480p mkv. Am I missing something here?
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>>2247112
Nevermind, problem fixed. Just download MPC-BE.
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Seems that its the end. thank you for everything
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