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What's it like to have sex with a guy?

How different does it feel than being with a woman? Is it better or worse?

I'm really curious and want to try it. I guess I'm asking bi guys this question.
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>>1512036

Depends on if you are looking to play the sub or the man I guess.

If you are staying the man, imo, the most common mistake is treating it as though it were sex with a chick. Its not, its a male and you are removing his masculinity and re-purposing his body as a common cumdump.

Not every male who is amenable to homosex should be considered. Not even counting the common neurotics, theres a lot of other head cases out there. Be picky and know what you want without taking it too seriously.

Just my 2 cents
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>>1512042
I want to be the sub. What does it feel like?
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>>1512046
some things simply can not be described, you have to experience it yourself, get the fuck out of this cesspool and go get fucked.
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former bicurious here. it's a lot better than with a woman. my suggestion is to look for a insatiable masculine powerbottom; they justify their whoreish behavior by acting aggressive, while in reality they are just a cumdump with an attitude. best part about it is there is no added baggage when it comes to men, unlike with women, because they understand that casual sex is just that. literally no reason to go back after.
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>>1512046

Well, pretty much whatever you would imagine. I dont understand the question. You think you want to try something but cant imagine what it would be like. I dont follow.
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desu im shitless afraid of getting aids. im bi but i want to have a wife with kids. its not worth it to me to bang dudes and get aids. i just stick with woman
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>>1512036
Link to video?
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>>1512087
Okay enjoy getting aids from women AND dealing with them being a nag
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>>1512036
bisexual here
i have threesomes with two guys every sunday
but i have always had a girlfriend that i have sex with even more often
girls are hands down better
its not even an argument
dont let any faggot tell you other wise
girls give better head
vaginas feel 100% better than lube
if you get a girl that does anal your life is complete
no need to fuck with guys
girl ass feels better and smells less anyways
girls have MORE ass thats like an undeniable fact
and shaved is always better than hairy ass
girls smell better too
and have tighter asses
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>>1512096

>bisexual guy needing to prove how straight he is when he actually full time craves cock in his ass
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>>1512110
ha
proving?
i started with "i have thressomes with two guys every sunday"
you're a fucking idiot
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>>1512096
this is the worst poem ive ever read
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>>1512110
that includes getting fucked in my ass
so yeah
still crave that
but i didnt say 1 thing about that if you knew how to read
i said girls are hands down better
to fuck
its not even an argument
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>>1512122
why do you
type
like this
like it gives what you say
more meaning
also has it ever occurred to you that your opinion on the sexes is greatly influenced by the people you fuck? and i don't think anyone really thinks gays are secret masters of sex and girls are terrible; even though it may feel that way to some gay anons who've suppressed their gay for so long, the sex being so good is attributed to the skill of the guy instead the satisfying of their own suppressed urges. like water tastes really, really good when you're thirsty kinda thing.
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>>1512096
No bi person Is perfectly split in there attraction to men/woman. You are more attracted to/prefer woman and that ok. But don't speak on behalf of all bi people when you say sex with women is better.
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I'm a pan guy, and honestly, I think sex is pretty much the same with men and women. Aside from a few slight differences, it's pretty much the same. An ass is an ass, and a mouth is a mouth. Aside from lack of vagina, it feels the same.
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>>1512096
I've had sex with women and it's been great. But for me personally sex with men is hotter. This matter is completely subjective so you're right there is "no argument"
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>>1512092
>aids
>Woman

lmao maybe if theyre retarded leftist feminist or urban trash
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>>1512061
But with women it's just the same. There are also fucksluts who totally understand the idea of casual sex and are not ashamed of it at all. Have you ever used Tinder to hook up with girls? Also, in my experience, gay guys are just as dramatic as women, actually gay guys can be far worse, far clingier and with all the nagging. Usually, when a woman gets a "no" (rare I know), they just move on, a lot of gay guys on the other hand don't seem to understand it - if you say no, they send half naked pics, another no gets you dick/ass pics, another no gets you a torrent of insults and crazy messages about how they were "not int you" in the first place. kek

>>1512036
Do it with a man you're really attracted to. Also, are you a bottom or a top? If you're going to top, it won't feel much different, you'll be fucking just like you fuck women, if you bottom tho it's a veeery different experience because women almost never peg their men, the vast majority don't even know the idea of pegging a man exists.
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>>1512096
>"women give better head"
bitch please
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>>1512181
My girlfriend gives pretty good head bro. I actually dislike how aggressive men usually are when they give head. Don't try to suck the balls out of my sack, dude!
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>>1512184
half the bitches out there can barely take it deep.
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>>1512187
Bullshit.

Fag who literally can't take half of it.
http://menonporn.com/2016/10/21/backstage-pass-2-johnny-v-rocco-steele/

Behold the deep throating queen.
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1631058362
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>>1512191
>1 vid example of each
Oh so it must be true then.

>>1512187
don't feed the "straight" trolls.
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Ugh. This is why gay people hate bi guys
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>>1512197
They're not usually too bad but /hm ones can be. The in denial ones come with a lot of venom and start a lot of shit as they fap to the images.
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>>1512194
Yawn, plenty of female porn stars to back it up, and they outnumber gay guys by large. You never slept with a woman anyway, so your opinion doesn't count.

>>1512197
As opposed to no one liking gay guys at all?
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>>1512200
I've slept with plenty of women, that doesn't mean I think they're any better or worse than men. My first GF was the worst lay I've ever had and the first guy I fucked was the best ever. I've had many good and bad of both since then but I'm comfortably with my bisexuality so I don't need to make loud announcements proclaiming men or women are better.
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>>1512201
>I don't need to make loud announcements proclaiming men or women are better

>>1512181
>>"women give better head"
>bitch please
>>1512187
>half the bitches out there can barely take it deep.
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>>1512203
This always baffles me when people do this, you do realize there is more than one person on this board right now, right? As I said, I have no need to make loud announcements on which sex is better at what.
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>>1512204
>I have no need to make loud announcements on which sex is better at what.

>>1512194
>Oh so it must be true then - implying only gay guys are good at head


Because that's exactly what you've been doing, retard.
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>>1512207
>>1512204
>This always baffles me when people do this, you do realize there is more than one person on this board right now, right?
I guess it didn't sink in, I'll keep posting it until it does.
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>>1512207
him and the others who claim to have slept with "plenty" of women
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>>1512209
Do I need an exact tally to verify? Is the word "plenty" not convincing enough? Yeesh.

And when I came back I wondered why this board had gotten so slow, it's plain to see now when you become aware of the people occupying it. Bickering queens, "straights" and trolls.
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>>1512208
that's your post he linked to tho. of course you realize that /hm/ doesn't ID posts, and you rely on this to feign being "baffled" at how people "assume" you're samefagging (because you are), but it's possible to see IP addresses via other means.
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>>1512212
Lol, I love when people pull this. What's my IP then? Are the unstable anons gonna use their magic hacker powers to unveil my identity? Oh no, the horror.
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>>1512213
I guess you're the bickering queen now, huh?
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>>1512214
Wow, you sure turned that one around on me, what a master internet user. Truly though this whole interaction was repulsive, I hope one day you realize how much of you is a waste. Clearly I've spent too much time on this board already, this place is more toxic and infested than I ever remember it being. I wish you peace and quiet along with your trolling ventures.
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>>1512215
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>>1512194
>don't feed the "straight" trolls.
>>1512215
you're wasting your energy ya dunce

>>1512212
>but it's possible to see IP addresses via other means
*cringe* le neckbeard hacker has infiltrated the system
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>>1512124
no one wants to read a long paragraph like this>>1512172
have you ever read a greentext? faggot
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>>1512184
finally someone that actually fucking understands
guys do NOT know how to give head
its not as natural
every day tries to deepthroat and be aggressive and all cool and that is not the best
girls naturally just do it better
>>1512181
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What is it like snuggling with a man? I don't even have that strong sexual desires of men, but I want nothing more than to just fall asleep on a man's chest
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>>1512187
sounds like you guys get some dumb ugly unexperienced bitches
which is honestly why most faggots turn to guys in the first place
they cant get dank girls
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>>1512225
>dank girls
no
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>>1512153
well there is also a difference between "bi" people and people like me who experience sex with men and women every single day/week/ all year
so i think i can speak honestly when i say fucking pussy is better and my words actually have validity since again, i experience this shit every day
i never said be more attracted to girls
i said pussy 100% is better to stick your dick into
thats not a debate
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>>1512225
>brags about how straight he is.
>on a gay porn board.
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>>1512042
>top = man, bottom = woman

This attitude really pisses me off. Do bisexuals view all sex in hetero terms?
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>>1512228
yes yes yes. wet slimy pussy is daaaaank
and it doesnt smell at all
when guys pull their dick out of your "clean hole" it smells like shit
vaginas arent like that
nothing wrong with anal
but it doesnt feel better either
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>>1512231
that wasnt bragging at all
and im
just stating some truths
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>>1512232
No they don't, I certainly don't. I'm sure there's a plenty though that think of it in hetero terms as that previous poster was going on about, which pretty ridiculous but each to their own....
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>>1512221
Perhaps speed read? It's 3 lines how long does it fucking take you to read it? Fml go back to school.
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>>1512221
>no one wants to read a long paragraph

I hope you realize that people are mostly responding to your posts to criticize your retarded writing style rather than to agree/disagree with your point of view.
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>>1512235
You experience sex through out the week with both men AND women and you claim to not be bi or gay? You don't realise how utterly ridiculous and stupid you sound. Fuck off.
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>>1512224
It's pretty neat
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>>1512224
If they're hairy is like when your dog slept with you only much bigger
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Fuck. I just wanna bf already. I hate being a virgin loser at the age if twenty five and still be "in the closet". Fuck life it's not fair.
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>>1512269
25 isn't THAT late. All it is a lot of us lose our virginity during college/uni, just cause its so easy to around then, everyones up for it around then hah! You MUST put yourself out there though if you wanna remedy the situation. No shame in dating sites/apps. Just dont turn into a vapid slut. Have some self respect.
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>>1512223
so if you are giving head you should take it slower and savour it rather than attacking the guys cock?
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>>1512036
no fishy odors
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>>1512121
underrated post
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>>1512495
Slow, passionate and steady is always better than a race to cum IMO, if you've gotten BJs you know how shiveringly good a tender, slow BJ can feel. Where your dick feels so good you're not even sure you can take it anymore and the cum just almost erupts out randomly. Fast tends to lead to more teeth and mishaps (it falling out and stuff) and it never feels as good anyways
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>>1512223
bitch please, just because you got shitty head from a guy doesn't mean they're all like that.
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>>1512121
<insert youwintheinternet maymay here>
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>>1512121
I like your attitude
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>>1512191

>Behold the deep throating queen.
SHE DIDNT SHADE NO TEARS
SHE'S TRULY THE QUEEN
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>>1512036

> /lgbt/ is a better forum for that kind of question. this is for posting porn.
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>>1512232
as a Bi man who prefers to bottom when I'm with men, definitely not. The guy you're responding to has a lot of internalized homophobia he needs to deal with because the view he holds is definitely not normal or healthy.
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>>1512232

I love of gay people do it too.

I'm a bottom, but I don't act feminine and I don't want to be treated with any less respect just because of what I like in the bedroom.
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>>1512787

Its called reality. If you suck cock, you're a cocksucker. If you take it in the ass, you take it in the ass. People treat you according to how you behave.

There is nothing philosophical about the fact that some creatures maneuver social groups by using strength and others by submitting to being fuck holes. Its not right or wrong, it just is.

People- male or female- who despite whatever inventions of personal ego they view themselves as through the lens of self image- take emotional satisfaction by taking cocks have a valid social use and role, but it is as specific as those who do not.

People who resent this formula of dom/sub, top/bottom, male/female or however you break down interaction as being 'unfair' are totally misunderstanding the transactional nature of human social behavior. Superior and inferior roles dont mean superior and inferior worth as individuals. One doesn't exist or function without the other.

When people begin rejecting these things out of ego, whether its feminism, or 'gay rights' or however you view it, it is egalitarian bullshit arguments that insist nature change and life be 'fair'. There is always a trade, and if one is bad at it, it is their own fault. Women bitching that they can do what men can or faggots insisting on regard as 'men' are failing at making the best of their role and keeping congruent with basic social math...
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>>1512815

... This whore/cocksucker/ass clown campaign for dignity misunderstands their own social leverage. People who complain about getting fucked while agreeing to keep getting fucked by people who need to fuck someone do not understand leverage in a transaction which is all human interaction. They fail at social navigation.

I dont care how manly a guy is. If he takes cock and other men know it, they will have no other use for him. Same with loose women. An individuals contribution to the pack is supply and demand and measured in raw physical terms. A group determines if your love of dicks is worth the social disruption of easy sex. If not, you need other skills to justify being accepted or respected, and the fact is that no matter how smart or talented you think you are, you can probably be replaced.

Humans are apes and not complicated. Whatever the situation, peoples social role get broken down to their basic physical parts. And if a guy or girl wants to be a fuckhole without any institutional coverage, then they have to accept being treated like holes. Dumb feminism is about treating women like men. Smart feminism is reminding men to treat women like women, and both benefit.
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It's hilarious how bitter and homophobic bi dudes are, on a fucking gay porn board of all places.
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>>1512815
>>1512816
The fact that you spent so much time thinking about it too
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>>1512827
Need to justify their low self-esteem somehow innit.
I sort of pity them. Sad to see how you can sink to such a low world-view just because you feel ashamed of yourself.
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>>1512232

Mostly sex of heterosexuals were like that. With female bottoming, and male topping. That's the traditional, that's what most of heterosexuals practiced; it's the most common of all.

>my papa topped my mama
>my grandfather topped my grandma
>my friend's papa topped my mama

so in my perspective, it's much easier to assume that those people around me prefer heterosexual sex with males topping. And it's much easier to assume that other people wanted that too because for me, others liked it that way.
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>>1512833

Yes, my friend's papa topped my mama. And I hated her for that. That's fucking disgusting.
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Here's my experience. If you want your dick in something (or a dick in you) then fucking a guy is best. However, if you're like me, and you prefer to be a lot more intimate and like to kiss and look each other in the eyes as you make love then go with a woman. Most gay guys just want to orgasm and very often don't do much in terms of intimacy. Just my two cents as well.
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>>1512816
its funny how a social construct only remains if those who abide by it mantain it, you and your mentality shall perish soon
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>>1512815
>>1512816
You've done nothing to back up the claim that bottoming is an "inferior" role. Even if it were somehow true, you say yourself that it doesn't entail inferior worth as an individual, so why aren't bottoms still warranted dignity and respect as men?

I don't see what feminism has to do with any of this. I accept that women are inferior to men by any meaningful metric. It's one of the reasons I'm glad to be homosexual. It's also one of the reasons I don't appreciate being equated with women. Taking cock is such an arbitrary point of comparison and says absolutely nothing in itself about an individual man's masculinity or contributions to society. Not all of us are effeminate whores and/or political. The term "faggot" ought to be reserved for those kinds of people if it's to retain any meaning.
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>>1512842
Intimacy isn't something you can just "create" over a casual fuck off grindr or with someone you just met at a gay bar, dude.

If you've been in a relationship with a guy and he wasn't intimate during sex, it was probably a shit relationship.
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>>1512815
>>1512816
I see the point you're trying to make, but I think you formulated it rather crudely. [spoiler]Perhaps you're anticipating angry responses?[/spoiler]
While I agree with you, for the most part, I do have some issues, so to say, with what you've said.

First of, you claim that people who have the inferior role in society derive emotional pleasure from taking dick. I don't see why would you assume that all people who take dick get emotional pleasure exclusively from the act of taking dick. I, for example, do get emotional pleasure when I bottom, but that is because I like the physical sensation of a dick in my ass, not because I like to submit to my partner. I understand that this is an anecdotal evidence, but I doubt that I'm alone in this. I think your description would better fit those who call themselves "sissies"

Secondly, you say that dom/sub, top/bottom and male/female dualities are essentially equivalent. This I also disagree with simply because "dom/sub" would better refer to "How you like to treat/be treated by your partner", "top/bottom" refers to "likes to fuck/likes to be fucked" and "male/female" refers to your sex chromosomes. Now, I understand why someone would equate top/bottom with male/female when talking about heterosexuals, but even then I can't equate dom/sub with the two and I can't even equate the first pair when it comes to homosexual relationships.

I would understand if you compared the superior/inferior duality to traditionally male/ traditionally female roles, but even then I think that the comparison would be fairly bad, since it would be described better as provider/nurturer, with provider usually being the male, nurturer usually being the female. Since men are physically stronger than women, such distribution of work is most logical. At least it was in the earlier times, when such divide was absolutely necessary.
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>>1512894
cont.

I would say that I'm more of a nurturer by nature, but that isn't tied directly to my sexual preference. For example, I like to "nurture" my friends by entertaining them or buying/cooking food for them. I would like to "nurture" young people by becoming a teacher (which is a traditionally female profession). I also like to "nurture" my partner by making him feel good, whether that means being top and/or bottom. I'm also not that interested in sports, I'm not awfully competitive and I dislike violence. Those are characteristics usually attributed to females and I would understand if you were to say that I'm less of a man because of that, but that brings me to my next point:

>I dont care how manly a guy is. If he takes cock and other men know it, they will have no other use for him.

Here you imply that those gender roles have absolutely nothing to do with how a man is treated, because if he were the absolutely stereotypically manliest man alive, that is, if he were to be the absolute provider in society, he is still to be treated as a fuckhole because he's a bottom.

> you need other skills to justify being accepted or respected

Taking your narrative in consideration, this would imply that a man is to act manly even while taking cock in the ass to be respected as a man. That is, fairly obviously, contradictory with the sentence that I've quoted previously.

You, my friend, are very homophobic.
And, before you guys jump at me: no, I'm not mad, I just generally like to debate. And I apologize if the text is hard to read, English isn't my first language and I don't usually write this much.
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>>1512898
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>>1512894

I dont have time atm to give the response your thoughtful reflection deserves. I just want to bounce off a few things:

>exclusively

Believe me, I get it. This actually came up the other day when discussing elsewhere; to what degree if any does autogynephilia play in the male/top mind during penile/vaginal intercourse. That is, the urge to 'snuggle' demands some degree of empathy when awareness of it rises to even the most primal level of intelligence; it shares some aspect of violence or feeding, and at the very least, recognizes interaction with something other than the self.

So if there is even a modicum of empathy, then what is occurring in the male/top mind within that matrix of awareness. Often, is not pretty or flattering, and yet at the same time, for one to be aware of that, they have to go back to empathy, even when there is an absence or outright rejection of compassion. People often argue, by example, what exactly is going on in the mind of a sex criminal; to what degree are they aware of a violation vs how deliberately does it play into motive if at all.

But that 'exclusive' bit deserves more elaboration at some point. That is, both roles of whatever 'gender' *can* feel or even long for the opposite role. And yet social patterns seem to only allow for uni-directional practice. It can even be chronological. For example, a male can be 'broken' into a bottom but a bottom cannot be built into a top (by sex or otherwise). A 'straight' can become gay but a gay cannot become straight, according to our language consensus. Two women can have sex and retain gender role but one male in a homosexual encounter becomes permanently "less male".

These are just some of the odd contradictions social pattern imbue on reality, where anyone *can* do anything and yet hierarchies insist on a sort of unidirectional polarity.

Thank you for bearing with my rambling and the thoughtful reply & discussion.
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>>1512895

1. Your English is fine. Exemplary, actually.
2, Homophobia is an intellectual contrivance that has been so abused as to be somewhat meaningless as more that a buzzword. I would agree that I dont believe in applied egalitarianism. Its not that I think its wrong, but more accurately doesn't exist in nature and is an artificial value system that is actually socially dangerous if applied. The current era has a lot of unkind words for people who believe as I do, and thats ok. I dont hate as much as I can be hated, or as often.

Anyways, I do have to go, I just wanted to acknowledge reading what you wrote.

I think I may have mis-communicated my interpretation and analogues of gender, role, and the power play of interactions among people. I would, in brevity, just go back to human interaction being ultimately transactional in nature, and that hierarchies seem to play into everything. Social values, moral norms etc are reflected in it. Our oddest and lowest sexual practices survive when institutionalized somehow.

Above all, I want to emphasizing that I have no malevolence to bottoms/females whatsoever, but rather I appreciate anyone who subscribes to society and, when not mistreated, dedicates themselves to executing the roles society has for them. As I implied earlier, there are no "chiefs" unless there are "indians". For this society thing to work at all, everyone has to pick a part, know it and play it well or its not worth doing.

Have a good week.
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>>1512905
>>1512903
>>1512895
>>1512894
I mean, if you're gonna pretend that someone actually read your shitposts and took the time to reply, at least change the way you reply to your own posts to not make it seem as obvious grandpa.
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>>1512815

lol, spooky as fuck. Sounds like someone took Nietzsche's justification for his support of a 'natural' social hierarchy based on sex too seriously (of course this was borne out of his being bitter over getting rejected by the love of his life).
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>>1512096
dude I am pretty sure that if you prefer women that damn much that you are PANsexual not BIsexual
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>>1512910
Well, I'm glad that somebody took time to read it. Also, I'm 19 and I don't usually speak like this. When I discuss something, I try to be as precise and as neutral as possible.
>>1512905
Well, I saw many things that made a lot of sense in your post, but that miscommunication made the idea seem very anti-female/bottom.
I apologize for saying that you're homophobic; I understand your point of view better after that clarification.
>>1512903
I really dislike third wave feminism for various reasons, but I do agree that gender roles exist and that "the female role" (I will use this term very loosely from now on) is seen as less favorable for some reason. I suspect that the reason is that it's generally agreed that taking the female role is easier than taking the male role in society. If you think about it, stay-at-home fathers are looked down upon, while female soldiers are glorified. This is just from the top of my head and I haven't given it that much thought.
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>>1512046
Get yourself to the point where you feel like you can't live without a cock in your ass, get lots of kissing, humping, and sucking dick in before you do the deed.

Ask the top to eat your ass for you, once you are completely relaxed, use silicone lube and get relaxed by taking deep/slow breaths.

If it doesn't go in easily at first, try sitting on it, or getting on all fours with your back arched (stomach close to the bed). Be sure to jack your dick while it's going in and occasionally as you're getting fucked.

Good luck, I hope you enjoy one of the best feeling during sex you'll ever have.
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>>1512223
I just sucked off a guy from Craigslist. Veteran Marine. He's drowned in pussy. Keeps telling me I've given him the best head he's ever gotten.
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>>1512223
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1579000046
15 minutes of dick slobbering, and he's not even that good.
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>>1512223

In your defense, its true that a lot of gays assume that because they are guys, they are better. What they have is better potential, but they forget they have to work at it, and well.... you know the obstacles they might have there.

Moreover, ego is a problem. They somehow confuse the point of head is to please the other man with it being to please them. A man involuntarily gives a lot of cues during head of what is and isnt going to get him to the next level. But a lot of gays are deaf to it because they are too wrapped up in themselves or some movie playing in their head and not responding to the man right in front of them. And if they notice, they dont have the focus to interpret it.
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>>1512847
>Intimacy isn't something you can just "create" over a casual fuck off grindr or with someone you just met at a gay bar, dude.
Have to disagree with you. When I'm looking for a hook-up I always say I'm looking for someone who will kiss and touch. Maybe you don't define that as "intimacy" but I do. I can divorce intimacy from love, although I'll admit that intimacy with someone you love is psychologically better than with someone you don't have an emotional attachment to.
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Kinda related:

Always considered myself a straight guy, jerked off to Limewire downloaded porn when I was 12, but after a while I also got turned on by gay porn. So sometimes I also jerk off to some specific gay porn. The thing is, it's actually only the cock I care about, all the other male things I don't find attractive. AND when I finish I always have this nasty feeling of reject and I suddenly only like straight stuff. Never actually had sex with a man. Why am I posting this on fucking 4chan? oh yeah, I was looking at dicks...

After searching the internet, apparently I fall in the category of hedonistic bisexuals?? Well what to actually do with it..
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>>1513120
if you don't like guys but you like dick then why not go for trans women? or even cis women who will fuck you with a strapon?
also ive never heard the term hedonistic bisexuals wtf does that mean
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>>1513248
hedonistic means pleasure seeking.
it is from the greek hedonia for pleasure.
bisexual is a term closeted gay guys use to describe themselves when they still aren't comfortable admitting they love the cock.
they think it makes them sound more straight or something.
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>>1513275
>bisexual is a term closeted gay guys use to describe themselves when they still aren't comfortable admitting they love the cock.
except bisexuals do admit that they love the cock, so....
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>>1512121
Lost.
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>>1513112
>muh personal definitions
Kissing strangers during your casual fucks is not intimacy. Try getting to know someone. You don't have to get married.
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>>1512096
>girls give better head

Yeah, no. No they do not. Men are better in every way.
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>>1513337
matter of personal preference
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>>1512042
bi guy here. that is stupid. you can sub or bottom without losing masculinity. you need to roll with the bears and leather crowd more. 2 MEN fucking is way hotter that a man and a dude acting like a chick. If i wanted that, I'd just fuck a chick.
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>>1512096
desu i dont get the point if being the top. if you wanna fuck and not get fucked, why not just fuck girls? they're aesthetically more pleasing anyway

most tops have serious issues with self esteem probably
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Do bi guys even like men? Their attraction to men always seems like a fetish.
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>>1513275
what are you on about?

I'm 80% straight. Out of 10 partners, 8 have been women and 2 men. But I literally HAVE to call myself bi because I do like sex with guys, even if I've literally only done it twice in my entire life. I like cock, which I admit openly. So you're telling me, even though I'm barely bi, I'm actually gay?

I've spent less than 1 hour being intimate with men in my entire existence, yet I have to acknowledge my bisexuality... how is that right?


Sex is just sex as far as I'm concerned. I tend to prefer the fairer sex, but a really masculine dude can take me for a ride every once in a while if it's right.
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>>1514797

Im sorry you feel boxxed into having to accept a crude system of terms.

I dont think a lifestyle constructed of values is implied by enjoying a particular type of sex.

It sounds like you have a bit of a fetish that is homosexual, but that doesnt reflect your whole personality. You just like a dick sometimes.

In the past, you may have been considered a bit libertine, but not a compulsive homo. Bisexual is such an argued inflated term that I dont see what use it is anymore.

Here in America's recent election, we actually had gay intellectuals openly writing speculation that people who didn't vote their way may not truly be 'gay'. All these crude terms are being revealed as crap.

Some guys like guys, some dont. I never see it being more complicated than that. Everything else just seems like discussion to sell books.
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>>1514820
nice blog post fagtron
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Nigga, it doesn't feel objectively better or worse, and anyone who tells you differently is a moron. You'll enjoy sex more or less depending on how much you're attracted to the person and idea. Sex with a man you're attracted to will feel better than sex with an ugly girl, and vice verse. Your mind anticipates sex and pleasure, and adjusts sensations, etc.
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>>1514797
>>1514820
Lots of gay guys just wish everyone was gay. They think if you 99% straight, then your gay. If your bi, then your really gay, if your Straight, well... hey every one is really bi... wait... nope.. no one is really bi, so you must also be gay.

I think it's about time to just out all the gay guys as Straight people with a problem!
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>>1512096
>"no need to fuck with guys" after statting off saying that he fucks 2 guys veery week

U wot m8?
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>>1514946
You mean go back to treating it like a mental illness? You might want to stop fapping to mansex then. Lead by example and all that.
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>>1514946
How many times can you use the wrong your in a comment, jesus.
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>>1514557

Still falling for such obvious bait.... God damn, queer men are such pissy morons.
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>>1514785

It is a fetish.

They're "bi" in the sense that they're desperate enough to fuck anything they can.

They UNIVERSALLY "prefer" women, though. Like, I'm not even joking. I'm deadly serious. There is no bisexual guy who will settle down and make a life with another guy. Period. By definition, they will leave you for a woman once they find one who can tolerate their slutty immaturity.

There is no such thing as a bisexual guy who only incidentally fucks women but wants to be in a romance with a guy. Males are just conveniently easy fuck holes for them. That is all.

So all you naive little closet-campers out there dreaming of "turning" or seducing that hyper-sexual sex addicted bisexual "masc" guy should just pack up your tutus and get the fuck over yourselves.
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>>1515135
>angry about being gay
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>>1515141

Find me a bisexual man who has had sex with both men and women -- but who has settled down to be with the same man until one of them has died.

You can't do it. There has literally never ever ever been such a case recorded. Ever. It doesn't happen.
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>>1515146
My husband and quite a few of our gay couple friends had girlfriends before they got married or decided on long term partnership. Most gays, in fact, have experimented or had relationships with women before coming to terms. Your denial and anger won't change reality no matter how hard you try.
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Personally I find a vagina makes me cum a lot faster than fucking an asshole because the cunt gets so wet and it really squeezes your knob when you are balls deep in it. When the chick cums sometimes you can feel the contractions of her cunt all the way up the length of your dick which is pretty fucking intense. A woman's cunt is really well optimized to get your load from you and I really ahve to pace myself not to cum too fast in it.

An asshole mainly grips your cock around the shaft as you thrust so more like you are jacking off - its not really squeezing the head of the dick once it's in past the sphincter unless the guy is really good and knows what he is doing with his ass or you hit him from quite an angle. When I am fucking a guy I like to pull the head right out of him and then repenetrate him with it over and over as it is the act of penetrating another dude that is so hot but that can really be hell on his asshole after a while.

Of course guys are are usually quite a bit stronger and more athletic while being fucked and their muscles are a serious turn on (I am mostly into muscle bottoms and bodybuilders) and if they cum while you are fucking them its pretty insanely hot. In my experience no chick can suck dick like a motivated dude but maybe I just havn't been with sufficiently uninhibited and slutty ones yet.

What I love about sex with guys is it is more like a sport with a lot of competitive elements and you are kind of showing off your bodies and your sexual power for each other. Sex between two guys who are into each other is almost always exciting as hell and so much fun.

Sex with women can be very intense and hot but its a lot more hit and miss. You have to get them at the right time of month and in the right mood. With guys the sex for me is always more exciting, maybe because of the former taboo around it that some other posters mention, but also maybe because guys are so visual and the naked male body is so visually impressive.
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>>1512036
>>1512042
Get out. It's not even worth responding at this point. Don't even want to read the thread. Go to /lgbt/ if anything. Take these replies. Turn them 101% around. Add even more unimaginably awesome shit. Kill all the lies. And go fuck and shut your dainty faces
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>>1515807
Duh fuck
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>>1515146
Yeah, that's me, apart from the dying bit. I've been with both sexes and am now happily married to my husband.
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>>1515148
>Most gays, in fact, have experimented or had relationships with women before coming to terms.

Is this what bisexuals actually believe?
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>>1512087
Get on PReP and you will come out alright unless you are the least lucky motherfucker around
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>>1516629
It's like 99.8% effective, right? AIDS essentially doesn't exist if you use PREP and condoms, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Be cautious in general obviously though, PREP does nothing for other STD's.
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>>1512153
>perfectly split
do you even kinsey
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>>1515926
I've had more girlfriends than boyfriends.
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>>1515135
I know 2 bi guys in long term relationships with men. Try again.
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>>1516749
>bi guys
>in long term relationships with men

protip: those aren't bi guys they are gay guys
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Tried once so far. We both tried top and bottom. Tops fine, but get the sense we just endured bottoming.

There was one point as he entered where it was a bit of a squeeze.after that part thought I was in the clear till he got further in and started bumping up against a tighter spot couldn't really penetrate. At that point it just felt like I was getting my innards painfully punched by dick. We both knew you were supposed to start slow and we practically used a gallon of lube. Maybe bottomings just not for us, but was slightly disappointed by all the hype I heard about it.
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>>1512121
top kek
i was so angry reading this thread but you saved it for me. thank you.
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>>1516752
Bottoming is all about relaxing and being aroused at the idea of being penetrated by the top. You may have been too sucked into the anticipation to adequately relax. Or maybe you just don't like the sensation. Not every gay dude has to bottom.
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>>1514797
>I literally HAVE to call myself bi because I do like sex with guys, even if I've literally only done it twice in my entire life.

You don't HAVE to do anything.

I'm straight because it's the label I choose for myself and because it's the label that best reflects my public identity.

My porn consumption is exclusively men and I occasionally avail myself of some glory hole dick, but that doesn't mean I'm going to tolerate the orientation police coming along and telling me I have to join a club.
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>>1512191
those are some ugly ass dudes.
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>>1512121
kek/10
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>>1518181
That's great, man. You do you.

I personally accept the "gay" label because I'm openly homosexual and proud, but I totally understand that it doesn't adequately reflect the identity of every man who has sex with men. The fags who roll their eyes at guys like you and start lecturing on "internalized homophobia" really piss me off. The drive to recruit is a survival instinct, but it's one I think we should really be repressing at this point.

If you still feel that you're straight while happily sucking cock, then you should identify as straight. I don't want any man to be pressured into calling themselves "bi" or "gay" when that isn't what they are. As long as you give decent head, I'm not going to judge you.
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>>1516752
the first time i bottomed it was the most uncomfortable moment of my life; second was kinda uncomfortable kinda good. third was an incredible feeling (kind of like the first time you ever masturbated) and the best orgasm ive ever had (the second being cumming inside my now ex the first time)

relaxing is definitely a part of it.
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>>1518841
>The drive to recruit

It's not about wanting to recruit.
We don't need anymore overweight autists calling themselves gay.
It is about calling people out on their hypocrisy.
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>>1518851
>hypocrisy

montoya.avi
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>>1518866
Hypocrisy is the contrivance of a false appearance of virtue or goodness, while concealing real character or inclinations, especially with respect to religious and moral beliefs; hence in general sense, dissimulation, pretense, sham.
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>>1518872
Uh, alrighty...
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>>1518872
You should be looking up "projection" instead, friendo.
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>>1518879
Actually I think you should; he randomly decided to copy and paste the wikipedia definition of Hypocrisy for some reason but at least his comment fit the context. Also friendo is one of the worst words ever used, I think we can all agree on that.
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>>1512036
>What's it like

feelsgoodman.jpeg
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>>1512096
>girls are hands down better
>i have threesomes with two guys every sunday

nice bantz
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