If Germany won WW1 would the islands the Japanese captured from

I doubt japs would end trade with largest industrial power over islands

>japs allying themselves with the entente just to steal some islands from an overwhelmed and defenseless country

That is some bitch-tier opportunism tbqh

>>957541
>overwhelmed
>defensless
wat

The German Empire was the most prepared of any great power at the time for the war.
They were also the biggest edgelords, being the first nation to violate the Hague Convention and use gas (forcing the entente powers to use gas in defence) and being the first nation to launch civilian bombing raids - flying Gotha Bombers over London and causing unheard of damage.
Also doing really underhand slithery shit like coercing the Ottomans into joining the war, giving Lenin safe passage to Russia and trying to even get Mexico and Afghanistan to join in on the death.

Nobody liked them.
It was like "Mate, what the fuck, what are you doing stop spazzing out."
And Germany's all like "NO FUCK OFF AAARGH I'M HAVING AN AUTISTIC FIT".
But it was ok because we forgave them until they did the exact same thing again in another war because they bitched so much about the Treaty of Versailles even though it wasn't even half as bad as the Treaty of Brest Litovsk they forced the Russians to sign.

>>957574
>The German Empire was the most prepared of any great power at the time for the war.
Not true at all.

>the first nation to violate the Hague Convention and use gas
More nonsense.

>During the first World War, the French army was the first to employ gas, using 26 mm grenades filled with tear gas (ethyl bromoacetate) in August 1914.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_weapons_in_World_War_I#History_of_poison_gas_in_World_War_I

>the first nation to launch civilian bombing raids - flying Gotha Bombers over London and causing unheard of damage.
Attacks on civilian infrastructure weren't unheard of throughout history. Merely the means have changed. Not to mention that these early bombing raids were completely ineffective.

>>957574

>have to take on 4 of the most powerful nations not only at once but on completely different fronts

They were at a tremendous disadvantage to begin with. The only reason they made it as far as they did was because their army was the best in the world. They were still outnumbered and out-navied like all fuck

>>957611
Also it should be mentioned that the British Empire made use of bombing raids and gas attacks on civilians in their colonies to suppress the locals during the inter-war period.

>Churchill was particularly keen on chemical weapons, suggesting they be used "against recalcitrant Arabs as an experiment". He dismissed objections as "unreasonable". "I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes _ [to] spread a lively terror _" In today's terms, "the Arab" needed to be shocked and awed. A good gassing might well do the job.

>"The Arab and Kurd now know", reported Squadron Leader Harris after several such raids, "what real bombing means within 45 minutes a full-sized village can be practically wiped out, and a third of its inhabitants killed or injured, by four or five machines which offer them no real target, no opportunity for glory as warriors, no effective means of escape."

>In his memoir of the crushing of the 1920 Iraqi uprising, Lieutenant-General Sir Aylmer L Haldane, quotes his own orders for the punishment of any Iraqi found in possession of weapons "with the utmost severity": "The village where he resides will be destroyed _ pressure will be brought on the inhabitants by cutting off water power the area being cleared of the necessaries of life". He added the warning: "Burning a village properly takes a long time, an hour or more according to size".

>>957611
>Not true at all.
They declared war against Russia then France then invaded Belgium and Luxembourg all at the same time whilst securing a secret alliance with the Ottoman Empire.
Yeah they definitely weren't prepared at all.

>>During the first World War, the French army was the first to employ gas, using 26 mm grenades filled with tear gas
Tear gas wasn't prohibited by the Hague Convention, nigger.
The Krauts were the first to employ illegal chemical weapons, drowning tens of thousands of defenceless troops in their own lung fluids.

>Merely the means have changed.
Yeah, edgy German means.

>>957623
>4 most powerful nations at once
???
There were two fronts.
One was against a third world Afica tier nation with no infrastructure and a crumbling political landscape.
The other was a stalemate.
What a tough situation. Oh those poor Germans.
Of course they only survived because of their mighty Saussage brigades.
It wasn't that they just sat there mowing down British/French troops. Nah, it was their courage and valour.

Lol get over yourself

>>957645
>They declared war against Russia then France then invaded Belgium and Luxembourg all at the same time whilst securing a secret alliance with the Ottoman Empire.
Not because they were prepared but because they felt that if they waited any longer their enemies would be in a more favourable situation than them. Germany is geographically indefensible, Germany lacks resources. A lengthy war - let alone a two-fronts war - which would be the consequence of being at war with either France or Russia, would always be Germany's ruin. The only way they saw to win was to knock out one of the sides as fast as possible. And the only way to do that was to circumvent their defences through Belgium.

>The Krauts were the first to employ illegal chemical weapons, drowning tens of thousands of defenceless troops in their own lung fluids.
The effect of gas is overrated and it's given an unjustified negative reputation. If you look at the loss rates, you will find that people had a higher survival rate from gas attacks than from conventional artillery.

>It wasn't that they just sat there mowing down British/French troops.
Not the guy you're talking to, but now, they didn't just sit there. They couldn't, because they were both outnumbered in men and equipment. Britain had at times more than four times the numbers of artillery. They could literally sit there and shell the trenches. Germany had to advance in terms of tactics, developing the deep-elastic defence en passant, which allowed them to defend despite being out-produced and out-numbered.

>>957574
>Also doing really underhand slithery shit like coercing the Ottomans into joining the war

>>957611
You forgot this gem.

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>>957694
>would always be Germany's ruin
Except it wasn't was it because they raped and destroyed one of their enemies causing them to enter a permanent cultural abyss for at least a century by sponsoring the Bolshevik revolution, causing the deaths of untold millions and the endless torture of the communist scourge.
Then all their troops from the East went to the West, two fronts became one front and they still lost because by that time the plucky Brits had developed tanks to literally steamroll Germany and establish peace.

>The effect of gas is overrated
Yeah lol pic related is definitely overated.
These guys look fine. Bet it had no effect on their morale or their families whatever.

>out-produced and out-numbered.
Yeah that kind of happens when you start a two front war and shit all over treaties you yourselves signed.
We should have destroyed Germany.
They're like rats.
They can't contain their desire for war and conquest, even today.

The Germans are the biggest fucking cowards.
They bomb cities to death but they can't take the heat when they get bombed.
They rape countries of their art and permanently scar the minds of every single European with the horrors of war then complain they were somehow the victims of it all.

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>>957753
>Except it wasn't was it because they raped and destroyed one of their enemies causing them to enter a permanent cultural abyss for at least a century by sponsoring the Bolshevik revolution, causing the deaths of untold millions and the endless torture of the communist scourge.
Russia received a devastating military blow in 1915 during the Gorlice-Tarnow offensive which should have brought the Tsar to the diplomatic table, but he refused so different strategies became necessary in order to get Russia out the war. This was the German policy of revolutionary infestation. They tried it on other occasions too, e.g. by supporting nationalist independence movements in Finland, Ukraine, Poland, Ireland and the Middle East. Recruiting Lenin and funding his revolutionary efforts was just another one of these attempts. Making Germany responsible for the consequences of what the Communists did with their power is hardly fair.

>Yeah lol pic related is definitely overated.
Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much. I could show you pictures of people blown to shreds by conventional artillery. War isn't nice. The point remains that gas - though considered cruel - factually wasn't. It's more that the element of killing people invisibly, makes it especially frightening, even though a regular artillery barrage was much more devastating in terms of losses.

>Yeah that kind of happens when you start a two front war and shit all over treaties you yourselves signed.
Blaming Germany alone doesn't do the situation justice. Multiple events led to WW1 and it was a development that was driven by multiple parties involved. It's not like Germany declared war out of random. History takes place in a historical context.

In any case, you sound pretty butthurt there. You should get some ice on that.

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>>957541
>mfw Japan was allied with britan over a decade before ww1

>>957803
>Making Germany responsible for the consequences of what the Communists did with their power is hardly fair.
Even Chuchill could see back then how irrevocably radical what had just happened was.

>In any case, you sound pretty butthurt there.
Yeah, I am.

1 million Brits lie dead in the ground because of that war.
It single handedly destroyed the spirit of a nation and raped us of our innocence in a more brutal fashion than anyone could ever imagine.

Even the smallest English villages are scarred with monoliths detailing the names of hundreds - the thousands - of men that died over there.
They were our best men. When they died so did beating heart of England.
We've been in perpetual decline ever since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV1a52yHafY

>>957841
>It single handedly destroyed the spirit of a nation and raped us of our innocence in a more brutal fashion than anyone could ever imagine.
Maybe Britain shouldn't have stuck her nose in continental issues then.

>>957851
Maybe Germany shouldn't have burnt and pillaged Belgium in appalling acts of Hunnish barbarism.

Germany:
>Creator of Nazism
>Perpetrator of WW1
>Ruler of the EU

What a great track record.
Definitely not Teutonic subhumans at all.

>>957864
Maybe they shouldn't, but that's besides the point, since you were whining about the consequences of WW1 to Britain.

>>957841

Wtf, I love Germany now!

>>957841
At least you stopped genociding people. Oh wait, that only happened after the WW2.

>>957851
This is the perfect response.