How old is the concept of what we today call "race"?

We had this same thread yesterday

>>804121
I didn't come on here yesterday.

>>804124
Still up >>799697

the ancients did not have race in the same way
they had foreigners/others in terms of distance culturally and geographically so that outsider mentality was always there

the biological concept of race came from colonialism

It become important with enlightenment. Before it was just plain xenophobia and not amoral racism.

>>804132
Thread turned into shitshow, probably worth starting again. Check the Fredrickson quotes posted, but basically this >>804134

>>804116
>sjws and leftists don't believe in race
>they still want affirmative action based on race

>>804247
Affirmative action based on opressed groups by a concept of race, of course it will coincide with the notion of race that the opresors have, you're bad even as a sophist

When the lighter ancient Egyptians were in power, they called the darker group "the evil race of Ish".

When the darker ancient Egyptians were in power, they called the lighter group "the pale, degraded race of Arvad".

>>804252
>the sjw can't even spell properly
>still tries to lecture on race
Top kek
>>>/leftypol/

>>804116
Probably as old as the Roman Republic; the term "nation" was used to discriminate between those born under the control of the Romans, and barbarians. Of course, this became difficult once they expanded outside of Italy.

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>>804259
>Attacking the grammar instead of the argument
More sophistry

>>804116
Race just refers to a broad group of ethnicity
>white
Europe (possibly north Africa and middle east)
>Black
sub Saharan Africa
>Indian
Indian subcontinent
>Asian
Southeast and east asia

Race = Pan-ethnic group

>>804116
According to spengler.

>Whoever obsesses over race does not had it

Race started being relevant when there started being a shitload of people from both the most developed and the most primitive race all in the same place, specifically colonial America.

>>804262
There was no Roman "Nation." There was a "state," there was a "republic" but its not a nation.

The term they used for something equivalent would be "Gens." And guess what: ROME ITSELF IS MADE OF SEVERAL OF THESE.

>>804958
There weren't chinese in America until at least 1845

>>804964
Come on man, I know Chinese seem like filthy animals to Westerners but they're fucking Atlantean gods compared to Negroes.